#ashley x andrew

[sukei-dot-exe]

[coffinbrotherr]

Happy international siblings day!!

Give your brother or sister a biiiiig hug!

[andyleyley]

this cg makes me CRAZY. the way he has his fingers in her belt loop so casually? boyfriend behavior. he def pulls her shorts down by the loops later on too

[sliceoflove]

Let’s be real here

Pretty much any “Andrew x anyone that isn’t Ashley” ships would just end like that

[skuleighrose]

[jellychloe]

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[the-grave-of-andrew]

Happy Valentine's Day. A bouquet of poppies is hard to find.

[gaslight-gatekeep-tarsoul]

Killing our parents isn't enough I need Andy to rail me over their graves...

[graves-simper]

What really happened in Room 302?

Yes, just like everyone else I am finally doing a small essay/analysis on TCOAAL.

This time I wanted to dive in something that wasn't a big part of the game, but has been on my mind since my first play through of the game and that is like the title states; What really happened in Room 302? Lets begin.

I wanted to start off by talking about the Lady in Room 302. Who is she?

We really don't know much. Her eye color isn't shown, she looks somewhat average but in terms of others opinions (ie; the Warden's and even Ashley) She is a very pretty woman. Even at a point Andrew says that she looks good. Take a look at some of the dialog below:

I mean, wasn't she?

After this very tasteful conversation these two love-birds have, Ashley heads up to commence the ritual to sacrifice the 2nd Warden, and of course Our Ashley pulls it off with no problems, and back downstairs she goes with full intentions of painting the wall with Lady 302's brains, but it appears someone beat her to the punch.

AND NOW I PRESENT WHERE I IMMEDIATELY BEGAN TO CALL CAP ON MR. DOORMAT EXTRAORDINAIRE AND HIS SILLY LITTLE LIES.

Your honor, this man is absolutely lying. The first thing that made me question everything about his story here is where she is lying dead. On the damn bed. Your honor, let's enhance this real quick.

That nail gun is a damn good several feet away from where Lady 302 lies dead on the bed. In fact it is in exactly the same position as when we left Andrew alone with her, and look at the sheer distance. These apartments clearly aren't huge but let me just be critical for a minute. Her mattress appears to be a single style mattress, so lets take in some measurements.

I can settle on the length being 75" or 6.25ft. So the apartment is about 12 feet wide. Not huge by any means, but to go from sitting down on a bed, even the edge, she would have to make quite the lunge while accounting for some random maniac being right next to you with a meat cleaver. I also do not think she would be the type to risk her life for a daring escape. Look at how absolutely bewildered she is the second Andrew rushes her.

That is NOT the face of someone who is absolutely down to fuck around and find out. She also had a chance to get help while also risking her life, when she is given the radio she could have screamed for help, and while yes she would've died, at this point I would say the risk factor was relatively similar.

Now that I have established my reasoning for why I don't think this lady tried to kill Andrew with a nailgun or even had the chance to, let's go over some of the reasons I think he DID choose to kill her.

No Witnesses.

This is a very boring theory but I have to bring it up no less. I think there is a good chance he just said fuck it, and killed her for the sake of not leaving evidence behind. She saw their faces, heard their names, and they even said they were her neighbor from upstairs. Leaving her behind could've ruined EVERYTHING for them after this point, and based on Ashley's sour reaction to her mere existence, I think he already knew damn well Ashley would want her dead too.

Make my Ashley happy.

This ties back to the point I made in No Witnesses. Ashley took her as a threat, and obviously Andrew noticed. She was not pleased after he called her "Pretty". I think once he was alone, he figured he would off her to show Ashley that he wasn't ogling her or wanting to do anything with her. In fact she meant so little to him, he butchered her right on her bed. To support this, the way Ashley reacts when she returns absolutely floors Andrew, he is calm about what happened but Ashley is still coming up with thoughts that he tried to fuck her, when in his mind, he was probably hoping she would be thrilled that he killed this awful, hell-bound, hussie. But instead she is still somehow mad despite her being now a corpse. He becomes to fed up that even though he did what she would've anyways, it is somehow not good enough for her. (I will dive deeper into this interaction below with another theory that relies heavily on this.)

The Hussie hit on him.

This one ties into Make my Ashley happy. There is a good chance this obviously sexually attractive woman tried seducing Andrew while they were alone. She had no problem doing it with the Warden's to get better treatment, and I have no doubt this was her go-to get out of trouble free card. This charming young man would surely fall for her good looks right? Right? There's two thought processes that would make this reasonable. 1. He was worried how Ashley would react if she walked in with her clearly flirting with him and how that would make her feel. 2. My personal favorite of these two, he is dedicated to Ashley and was offended by her advances and killed her in a show of devotion to her.

Now that we have the more sane theories out of the way, lets get to the GOOD STUFF.

Andrew's Fantasy.

This theory is more of a mental guess as to Andrew's relationship and views of Ashley. He has been clearly fed up with her more than once up to this point, having arguments, dealing with her shit, and all the trauma he just experienced from starving for weeks, isolation, and having to butcher and eat someone, and then murder a man to save her.

What if once Andrew had a moment alone with someone who was essentially his victim, he decided to truly see how he felt about something. I believe Andrew may have not seen Lady 302 as Ashley, but just for the hell of it, imagined that she was Ashley. Despite the different appearances, I'm sure he could overlook it in the state of mind he was in at this point, and decided how it would feel to finally kill "Ashley". The way he kills her just doesn't feel like he said fuck it and wanted the lady dead, she is laid out on the bed, there's no signs of a struggle either. Later in the game during one of the visions, there is the one where Andrew finally kills Ashley. When she accepts that he will kill her, he brings the cleaver to her throat similarly to how the throat of Lady 302 was cut. The similarities just feel so similar that I had to bring this up despite it being possibly far fetched but that's what makes these fun!

and now for my most absolutely far fetched theory yet.

Don't these two look similar?

This theory is much more far fetched but hear me out on this!

I know this may be a result of Nemlei's artstyle but these two have some stark similarities in my opinion. Both blonde, same eye color based on the greyscale of them, similar hair parting, and a similar face shape.

After all the trauma Andrew went through in the weeks locked in their apartment and then killing several people and eating one no doubt sent his brain to a bad place.

I think after all that hell he endured he may have simply had a breaking point and felt like he saw a ghost or just the stark similarities between Lady 302 and Nina just made something snap.

I want to back this up by making a point to the story telling in the game. Before they go and escape their apartment conveniently before the Room 302 incident, there is a dream about how Andrew and Ashley killed Nina. This could be just the flow of the story telling however, I feel like it was a lead up to what really happened in Room 302. It just feels too perfect to include that scene right before he kills someone who I am assuming is what Nina may have grown up to look like, AND then with this scene occurring once Ashley returns almost feels like a nail in the coffin of this theory.

Nina isn't brought up in the apartment, or once they're in the motel. Nina is brought up during a heated exchange in Room 302 right after Andrew might have felt as if he killed Nina once again, yet just like when they killed Nina, Ashley still somehow thinks that Andrew has a thing for a woman he helped kill, and this absolutely drives him off his fucking rocker.

This exchange floored Mr. Doormat so intensely he finally was ready to absolutely throttle the life out of her. Andrew was finally so fed up with being berated for doing things for Ashley's sake he just wanted it to be done and over with forever. Andrew once again found himself in the same place Ashley put him in all those years ago, but this time he knows he isn't as vulnerable as he was and uses it to his advantage, but after their little squabble, they leave together to bless our hearts with Chapter 2.

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Perhaps this was as plain as the story made it out to be. There is a good chance that Andrew didn't want to leave a witness and said hell with it and butchered the woman in Room 302. But I'd like to believe that with all the hidden details Nemlei has scattered throughout this game that there is truth to one of these theories, hell maybe even a giant jumble of them all together is the true story of Room 302.

But with everything I presented today I hope you all perhaps are too questioning what really happened in Room 302 like I was.

I'd love to hear any theories you guys have regarding this or twists/opinions on the ones I presented here!

Thank you all for reading!

[imalison]

So I was right.

It wasn't the first time our grave siblings were caught by their mom in a very compromising position.

This proves that this has happened before and quite a lot, dare I say.

For Renee graves, a mother who neglected her children and was away most of the time to catch onto their act, it must mean they've done this often behind the scenes and the fact that she's incredibly observant in catching these details, too.

(Clearly, she didn't want to raise them afterall they were just a 'disappointment' and 'embarrassment' in her eyes.)

Look how quickly he spun up a cover story

The way he tries to laugh it off to make it appear normal even tho he seemed nervous. He always got his word cards arranged in situations like these.

I'm so excited to see more of his goody-boy mask break as his devious side finally reveals in full display.

Episode 3 is surely gonna be interesting.

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Andrew andrew, what have you done this time?

[solaceinabandonment]

Andrew sneaking off periodically to furiously jack off in an attempt to not rail his sister silly style after the vision send tweet

[sukei-dot-exe]

[coffinbrotherr]

Julia: hey Andrew, do you have any plans tonight?

Andrew: ah yeah...sorry Ashley wanted me to hang out...

Andrew to Ashley the minute he gets home:

[katheriensapple]

Shit, this fucking image:

my first thought was that she got both eyes black, and then i noticed it's only her makeup smeared. And i don't have any words to say how IMPORTANT is that.

We've never seen Ashley crying, like, seriously crying. We've seen her tantrums as a child and her unhiged half-crying half-laughing in the Decay ending. She didn't cry when she and Andrew killed Nina, she didn't cry when she was being strangled, she didn't cry when she got the vision of Andrew killing her.

This, on the other hand, seems fucking real. Her hair's messy, her eyes are half-open. Like she just waking up after having crying all night; like she go to bed without even taking her make-up off and now it's stuck to her skin like dry glue.

And the dialogue: "(because you're just as full of shit as me)" Am I crazy for thinking this thought is clearly about Andrew? I strongly suspect this is the Decay Route, because it makes sense. This Route is all about Andrew falling in a even deeper pit of denial and putting all the blame for their actions on Ashley.

And, you know? Ashley has usually allowed this line of thinking. Unlike Andrew, she knows who she's, and she knows she's cruel and manipulative and just plain evil. She allows Andrew blame her because it's helpful for their relationship's manipulative dynamic, and she doesn't care. The only instance in where we've seen her blaming Andrew was when she was trying to manipulate him, using Nina's murder as a weapon.

But here? She's not manipulating anyone, she's thinking to herself. She's on bed (or on the floor) and notably alone and stating that her brother is as bad and deceitful as her.

[femboy-mattie]

We love Andrew standing on business. Andrew takes no shit from anyone when it comes to protecting Ashley. And Ashley talking shit from behind her scary dog brother.

[skuleighrose]