#asclepious

[pain-is-too-tired]

the thing is with apollo is that it makes sense he never touches on his grief in depth or more than he has to. because if you noticed, apollo narrates in a way that actively tries to get the reader to dislike or be annoyed with him via setting himself up with over-the-top dramatics or somehow getting them to pin blame onto him. his actual pain and suffering are often put aside to push his “anti-apollo” agenda, and apollo often is nuanced in a way where his flaws are completely exposed. touching upon his children’s death puts apollo in a sympathetic light (because he literally lost his kids in a situation completely out of his hand, no amount of reaching will actually make him be the bad guy) and exposes too much of who he really is, and therefore does not work for apollo’s purpose of antagonizing himself. (plus other reasons i don’t readily prepared)

Fair enough. Still feels wierd that he doesn't even casually think of them in some way. Or that we don't even get vague hints of their previous existence at camp. Especially in the cabin. Even if we didn't get Apollo fully grieving them, seeing evidence of the other three having grieved would been interesting. Or just vague hints of it.

I do kinda like hc of when children of Apollo grieve hard enough Hythcinths or some other plant related to Apollo's own grief grew around them. Would've been cool if the Hythcinths they had in the windowsill were ones that grew around the cabin after BoM. Something like that.

Idk. Feels wierd that we didn't even get hardly anything about any other children of Apollo in Toa. Even if small.

Like-fun fact- Chiron raised Asclepious! Would been sweet if they had small lighthearted chat about Asclepious as a Lil kid. Especially when later on they mention the story of his mother. Just small things like that :3

[darabeatha]

@nulltune replied ; ME, AFTER KNOWING ASCLEPIUS LORE: U DESERVED SM BETTTERRRR ASCLEPPPYYY...!!!!!!!! SOBBSSSS

❝ Anything else ? ❞ He gives one last quick look at Hakuno from the top of her head down to her feet, thus confirming his own question without even waiting for an answer. ❝ I see. Then close the door when you leave. ❞

[kill-me-with-a-spoon]

Ohhh pretty research.

I am so glad you actually dove deeper into this because I was still curious about it but too lazy and bust to research it

So many things to bring up but here is what I can’t help but stop thinking. I had forgotten about this but Artemis asked Asclepious to resurect Hippolytus(even more proof of Theseus lacking object permenence IMO). This is significant I beleive because not only did Asclepious brought back people from Hades's realm it is something other gods, or atleast Artemis, couldn’t do.

Which is so very interesting to me. Artemis is a goddess of the wilderness and the hunt. Death is a big part of both those things yet it is Asclepious, the mortal, who brings back Hippolytus. (Can we go from here and draw a similarity to humans being able to defy nature? I think it might be a bit much but I can see the connection)

Even with the gorgon blood medicine version I think it is still significant that it was Athena, Goddess of Wisdom, who gifted him with it instead of a god like Apollo. Even the medicine itself wasn’t inherintly divine(Medusa was mortal unlike her sisters) but it was Asclepious's skills and intellect as a healer that managed to cure death.

I never excepted a talk that started from "Odysseus defeating Posedion with a windbag jetpack aint it" to end up "Let us contemplate humans being able to cure even death and that prospect would reflect upon our and the worlds nature" but end up here we did and I am so glad for it.

Who did Asclepius resurrect ?

A couple days ago, I discussed the idea of mortals defeating gods with @kill-me-with-a-spoon on a comment section of my "thoughts on Epic" post.

We talked about Diomedes and Perseus briefly, but then a third example came in : Asclepius.

And I find this specific mention interesting because I didn't think about it but it kinda makes sense 😂

He didn't defeat any god like the two former heroes, that being physically overwhelming them. Instead, he simply "cures" death, thus Thanatos' doing. Not only his, but the Fates' too considering they cut the thread of life. And he meddled with Hades' realm, something that he hated and we know how that ended.

(Hades hating doctors will never not be funny)

I made some research on him for personal projects and so I want to use it right now for personal ramblings about who exactly Asclepius resurrected.

@kill-me-with-a-spoon was pointing out that if, by technicality, he didn't interfere with Hades' domain if souls he resurrected didn't cross the Styx. And I've got to say, I think he did.

Also, I completely agree with the fact that they're still killable. They won't die from the same cause since Asclepius heals their injuries but he doesn't deify anyone.

If we look up different sources, here's the list of people he resurrected.

Hippolytus (according to Pausanias and latin sources like Pseudo-Hyginus or Ovid)

What makes this particularly interesting is that Artemis is the one who has this idea. It shows that portraying her as a man hater is completely wrong since she asks her male nephew to resurrect her male friend/devotee. It shows her bond with Hippolytus (his death was very unfair, so I get it) and with Apollo too, since she trusted her brother's son completely.

Then, it's just funny but in-character that Theseus isn't the one who has the idea to resurrect his son, because of course he wouldn't think about it 😂. It's even funnier if we take late sources stating that Asclepius was among the Argonauts. Because Theseus was too, so they knew each other personally and yet Theseus couldn't think about it.

Another detail : Hippolytus seems to forgive Theseus in Euripides' play, but NOT after coming back to life in Pausanias' version. Different versions, I know, but if we mix the two, then we could interpret that maybe all this time in the Underworld gave him the opportunity to think about it, or maybe, with a new chance to live, he doesn't want to stay with his father.

I get you, Hippolytus. Go have fun.

Capaneus (according to Stesichorus)

What's interesting here is how Capaneus died : he participated in Polynice's siege against Thebes but was killed... by Zeus. He was struck by lightning because of hubris.

And then Asclepius comes and resurrects this guy. All the more reasons for Zeus to be angered. That means he came in and decided to undo divine punishment, the same one that will be his own doom in the future. It's pretty chilling for me.

Lycurgus

So, there are a lot of Lycurguses in mythology.

In the beginning, I thought it was Lycurgus of Thrace, which would've been hilarious because if this guy comes back to life, he'll come back traumatized and insane (also, any grapevine would be the source of PTSD flashbacks). And again, that would've mean undoing divine punishments.

BUT it seems to be a separate Lycurgus that was resurrected. Not the one who offended Dionysus.

It's also not Admetus' brother of the same name, though the logical link would've been easy to make (because of Apollo's servitude and Admetus also being an Argonaut according to some sources).

Honestly, Wikipedia is the only place where the Lycurgus that Asclepius resurrected is distinguished. Even then, the article speaks of a probable case and lists Apollodorus as a source. So not even researchers are completely sure of which Lycurgus it was.

Hymen/Hymenaios : yeah, according to the Orphics, he resurrected some guy named Hymen, even though the only figure with this name is a god... it would've been very interesting to analyze if I had more details about it. Unfortunately, there aren't really.

Tyndareus

Glaucus : It's funny how Asclepius resurrects both Theseus AND Minos' son. Though that exploit is more often attributed to the prophet and healer Polyidos. I wonder if there was some untold teacher-student relationship between the two, since Asclepius is one of the inventors of medicine (with Chiron)

And then there's this woman :

This cracks me up, because this little story alone states that Asclepius as a GOD still resurrects the dead even though he was punished for it. Tbf, he probably had to explain this to Zeus, that he had to compensate his partners' mistake. Still, that's hilarious that not even divine might stopped him.

Don't tell me he didn't know what he was doing. He's a smart guy and his father is literally mr. God of prophecy. I like his audacity.

So, coming back to the initial subject, with the sheer number of mentioned names, I do think they had the time to be buried and cross the Styx (except Capaneus, who was probably turned into ashes lol).

Asclepius definetly meddled with Hades' domain, thus angering the god of the dead and he 100% provoked Zeus.

But, not all the gods were agaisnt him. If we take the version where he resurrects people with gorgon blood, then Athena, who gave it to him, was in favor of his operations.

Then, there is Artemis who asked him to bring back Hippolytus and finally, quite obviously, his n°1 supporter is his own father Apollo (oh god, I could make a whole new post rambling just about Apollo and Asclepius).

So yeah, I really like this myth for many reasons and this is one of them : how it's tied to many other stories, how different figures behave and react to Asclepius' antics, how it puts the system of life and death into questions, etc...

Anyways, if you have anything to comment on about this myth, don't hesitate. I'd love to discuss it more !

My main source about all of this was Theoi.

[princehoneytea]

doodles of my gf's oc Asclepis (and his moms) :3

[melabea]

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Asclepian; a term for betilons/epsitas who are attracted to any/all dynamic. can also be called betilons/epsitas 4 all.

Malusian; a term for bicrons/omnetas who are attracted to any/all dynamic. can also be called bicrons/omnetas 4 all.

Rudbeckian; a term for beppas/kaetas who are attracted to any/all dynamic. can also be called beppas/kaetas 4 all.

etymology; asclepi(as spp.)/malus/rudbecki(a hirta), “ian” meaning one that does or deals with relating to, belonging to

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[girls--complex]

CAN asclepious from your comic be my icon? not on tumblr or anywhere public

Yes you can use my drawings as a personal pfp anywherez

[the-grand-author-ne]

Staring directly into the sun to try and intimidate Apollo into either revealing that this is indeed a prophecy or into making it one (call up ya boi asclepious and pull some god of medicine and sickness strings)

It's gonna be such a funny mess when Donald Trump dies of a stroke on April 1st, 2024.

Naturally everybody will think it's fake because of the date only to lose their minds (both positively and negatively based on their opinion of trump) when realizing it's real

There will be massive celebrations in the streets and on social media and lots of predictable "don't speak ill of the dead" discourse about those celebrations

Weird evangelicals will pull some weird number trick talking about how Jesus was conceived on April 1st and that makes Trump a sort of messiah and people will make fun of that

The Republicans (after they're done with the faux-sadness and faux-outrage) will stomp over each other to be his successor but none of them will succeed. They'll tear each other apart and have no single nominee for the November elections.

There will be discourse about if Biden and the living former presidents should go to his funeral (they won't, he was a traitor insurrectionist)

The Ukraine-Russia War immediately goes in favor of Ukraine as morale in the Kremlin is reduced. China similarly backs off from its threats on Taiwan.

Ten thousand new memes are made, some sticking around for years to come.

Not a month later a bunch of unofficial biographies of Trump hit the bookshelves, many with new details about just how awful he was.

[seasthedayingreece2023]

We made it to the blue zone! We’re staying in Atheras Hotel which prides itself on relexation and amusement! Its name is derived from the highest mountain of Ikaria, found close by the city of Evdilos. Close by is the village port of Evdilos which serves as a great means of transportation alongside many places to grab coffee and drinks and even taste traditional meals with incredible views overlooking the water.

Aside from getting a chance to see the beautiful city of Evdilos, we also had the opportunity to visit Ikaria’s capital city of Agios Kirykos, or just Agios to the locals. Due to the distance between cities and the vast majority of people coming into Agios, most public services, schools, and the hospital are concentrated in this one area. It’s one of the two main ports and houses roughly 3,000 people. All the villages of the island form the municipality of Ikaria.

The capital was formed in the 16th or 17th century. Its patron saint is Saint Kirykos and its beautiful, blue-domed church stands tall just above the harbour. Walking towards the harbor, you could see the modernist metal statue depicting Icarus with his wings, the Ikariada.

A folklore museum depicts everyday life, relics of wars and events from ancient times until now. All exhibits are islander-donated. The other museum, the archaeological museum, used to be a high school building, but is now a staple for the city.

Houses are located in close to each other, following the traditional island architecture, with tall blue or red window frames. The structure of the town could be described as dense, amphitheatrical, with narrow cobbled alleys. The town square consists of a marble monument to Ikarian heroes, with a fountain at its base. The hot spring of Asclepious, once referred to as Moustafa, is near the central square. People from all around the world seek this bathouse and Ikaria's other springs to meet their therapeutic needs. Asclepious Spring emerges from the sea and people swim nearby it to take advantage of its radium content without having to take a traditional bath.

Looking out into the horizon, individuals can see the Ikarian Sea, the islands of Patmos, Fourni, and Samos, and on occasion, even the coast line of Turkey. In addition to the view, visitors and locals alike can enjoy shops, taverns, coffee shops and bars all surrounded by a gorgeous view.

KAROLINA KACZMARSKI

[alpha-bread]

Day 3 - Trail

Those who survive her deserts seldom managed it alone

[alpha-bread-scribbles]

Some sketches heehoo

Sunstone: delightful rock, put it in the sun and it glows and makes magic

Moonstone: not as delightful rock, put it next to something magic and it glows and slurps up the magic 

Cookie: cookie

[llortastic]

i’d like to imagine this is how asclepius and jason’s conversations go

[madmachaca]

Cuando le dices al mocoso que no estorbe:

[beaustantonart]

Looking back at the recently completed piece in Rome from a couple of weeks ago and thought I’d share some stages of the painting process on the left side. Starting with a chalk drawing on a middle tone base coat, then moving into a rough brush imprimatura, finishing with aerosol. Huge thanks again to the US Embassy in Italy @ambasciatausa for bringing me out to work with @muromuseum on this great project to help renew the Mercato Menofilo. #asclepious #esculapio #fauxsaic #appiaantica #appianway (at Quarto Miglio Appio) https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwr6iJahZsz/?utm_source=ig_tumblr_share&igshid=f9auhpwaetid

[scribblesandink]

"All the kids Apollo raises turn out feral. It's just how it is"

"That's not true" Apollo glared

"Hermes and Asclepious? "

Apollo went silent, forcing back a laugh

"Who's Asclepious? " Audrey asked

"One of my other demigod children..... "

"Basically he pissed off Hades by bringing people back from the dead" Artemis explained

".... Your kids can do that? " Audrey looked at Apollo. He shrugged

"Sometimes. Other times they are just good musicians. It really depends"

Do you think covid existed in the Season? Do you think that for 2020-2021 Zeus couldn't host two Seasons. He had to wait until 2022 when restrictions finally lifted?

I'm gonna assume that covid didn't exist for my own sanity

[asclepyus]

Me when I realize I’m gonna have to short Jekyll like 20-30 gold fous so I can make sure I have enough to immediately 2000/2000 Asclepius when he drops

[fategambled]

‘ why are you running? why are you running? ’

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               why   wouldn’t   he   run   if   someone   was   following   him   with   a   goddamn   scalpel   ?     was   this   because   he   had   beef   with   his   two   other   unitmates   ?     he   no   longer   cares   if   he   has   rabies   anymore,     he’d   like   to   return   back   to   his   own   posse   in   one   piece.