#aro cass cain

[petrichor-and-moondust]

you are all now forced to engage in my highly self-indulgent aroace batfam icons

(i do requests! leave em in my askbox!)

[heybatterbats]

I’ve been seeing entirely too many posts about how ace-spec people aren’t really LGBTQ+ and don’t belong at Pride. And I got mad about it. So…*aces your Batfamily*

Yes, all of them. Every last one is now ace-spec in some way. They even named their dog Ace.

Bruce is sex-neutral biromantic demisexual, and came out by accident at age 24 to a random reporter who was not expecting it. This sparked a social media storm that was only halted by the much bigger social media storm of Bruce adopting Dick.

The Batman has been asked his sexuality before. Bruce replied- perfectly straight faced- that the Batman is an asexually reproductive entity and creates its Robins via mitosis. A third of Gotham, most of Metropolis, and several members of the Justice League still believe this.

Dick is sex-repulsed biromantic asexual, and is of the type to make the dirtiest jokes you’ve ever heard because sex is a joke to him. Came out in the form of an acrobatics performance he did at a pride parade, wearing a terrible Batman costume with a bi heart as the Batsymbol, an ace flag cape, and no pants. The audience was ecstatic. Bruce was mortified.

Nightwing has never said his sexuality, but anyone who claims he’s straight is quickly met with pictures of the Discowing suit and up to a dozen laughing emojis.

Jason is sex-repulsed aromantic asexual. He’s not as vocal about it as Dick is, but he does like it to be known. He’s the type to make garlic bread/cake/world domination jokes. And ESPECIALLY dragon jokes. He kinda tends to just insert it casually into conversation, he didn’t do anything crazy to come out. It’s just a fact about him.

Red Hood claims to be sexually attracted exclusively to guns. Bruce hates this joke.

Tim is the opposite of Bruce- he’s sex-positive bisexual demiromantic. One of the few Batkids to come out while in costume- he got a concussion on a case and blearily mumbled into Bruce’s hair that he’s “you but backwards” and completely confused Bruce. Tim is a little shy about his identity, but since dating Bernard he’s been more open about it.

Red Robin is out as bisexual, but hasn’t added demiromantic to that. Tim is worried people will piece his secret identity together, since Tim doesn’t realize that most normal people are not highly skilled detectives who can tell a person’s identity from a single acrobatics move.

At the moment, Damian just thinks he’s feeling the normal “ew cooties” that most children do. In the future he’ll realize that he’s sex-repulsed ace/aro, although he’ll refuse to use those terms in favor of broodily muttering “this bloodline dies with me.” Ra’s has an actual heart attack the first time Damian says this to his face and has to go into the Lazarus Pit to recover. Talia has never been more proud.

Barbara is sex-neutral, demiromantic and asexual. She’s more outspoken about it than most of the family, and runs social media pages about disability and the asexuality spectrum alike. Aphobes and ableists that make the mistake of leaving comments often mysteriously find that their most embarrassing search histories have been sent to their grandmother.

Cass is sex-repulsed ace/aro. Steph was the one to explain sexuality to her, and also made her an ace ring. Cass told Bruce first, then the rest of the family. She’s never come out publicly- Cass doesn’t like media attention being on her- but some sharp-eyed Gothamites who are looking can spot the black ring on Cassandra Cain-Wayne’s middle finger in a few paparazzi shots the papers got their hands on. (I have a fic about this!)

Black Bat has never been asked her sexuality, mainly because she’s absolutely terrifying and nobody can stammer out the words when faced with her.

Stephanie is sex-positive graysexual grayromantic, and absolutely not shy about it. She’s almost as good as Dick at making horrible, filthy jokes. Has punched a guy in the face for aphobia, does not regret it. Stephanie is out and proud and loud about it.

Spoiler/Batgirl III have both been seen wearing a rainbow flag as a cape too many times for anyone to assume they’re straight.

Duke is sex-neutral demisexual/demiromantic, and is probably the most open about it of the whole Batfamily. He’s fully out and so is Signal, and will inevitably show up at any daytime Pride event just to say hi. Gotham adores him, and he’s practically the ace-spec community’s mascot. Can and will use the entire rainbow spectrum of light to create various pride flags over Gotham whenever he feels like it, and has started taking flag/location requests. Once turned the Batsignal gay.

Harper is sex-positive bisexual aromantic, and where Stephanie is loud about it, Harper gets violent. She carries a souped-up taser and doesn’t hesitate to use it. Has knocked at least four homophobes/aphobes out cold not counting the ones she beat up in the Narrows. Bluebird is not only publicly out as bisexual but wears two out of three bisexual colors, and while it’s not come up publicly yet, she won’t hide that she’s aromantic either. Along with Signal and Spoiler, Bluebird is one of the vigilantes that’s known for being specifically good at handling LGBTQ+ issues. She wouldn’t have it any other way.

After being forcibly outed as gay and then bullied for it, Cullen is still in the closet about the fact that he’s asexual and sex-repulsed, too. The first person he told after Harper was Alfred. By now the whole family knows, but they’ve been careful to keep it away from the media until Cullen’s ready to come out himself.

Alfred is sex-neutral, aromantic, and pansexual, though he’s older than some of those terms and doesn’t often use them to describe himself. Bruce didn’t know Alfred was anything but straight until he was almost seventeen, to which Alfred replied- signature eyebrow raise at full height capacity- that he had a career in the theater, Master Bruce, and no one who does that can possibly be typical in matters of orientation or any other aspect of life.

The outfit might seem antithetical to this, but Selina is ace too! Specifically, she’s sex-positive, heteroromantic and demisexual. The leather outfit is primarily for distraction purposes rather than true sex appeal. When it comes to Bruce, however, Selina’s more than once described herself as “morosexual.” Bruce, bless him, still has no idea what that means.

There ya go. Ace-spec Batfam. Happy Pride to everyone but especially all you fellow ace-spec folks who absolutely, 100% belong there.

[mzminola]

/bisexually cupping DC fandom’s face in my hands/ Cassandra Cain is canonically interested in men. She might be bi or pan. She might be on the aro or ace spectrums with some other kind of attraction going on. She might be straight. What she isn’t is a lesbian in the monosexual sense. Exploring her interest in specific men and weighing it against her other desires is part of her journey to figure out who she is and what she wants out of life. It is part of the fights Barbara and Bruce have over her.

Cass dated Kon and was interested in Tai’darshan in her original Batgirl 2000 run, and in current continuity had a crush on Dr. Chin. Interpret her canon relationships with women however you want, but stop ignoring her guy love interests. They matter to her.

“But comp-het—” do you think Cassandra Cain gives a SINGLE FLYING FUCK about society’s expectations about who she should be attracted to.

[deadletterpoets]

Yea it’s like. I don’t want to rain on anybody’s parade too hard but I absolutely cannot stand any ship that involves Jason.. he is an aro ace little guy to me.. plus isn’t JayCass technically incest 😭

I actually headcanon Cass to be AroAce, don't really care about Jason to think of what he could be, but regardless yes it is incest. Depending on what continuity you subscribe to I guess, but anyone that doesn't consider Cassandra Cain a part of the Wayne family as the adopted daughter of Bruce shouldn't be talking about her anyway

[a-wanderin-whirlybird]

Ya Know what? More Batman and Batfam HCS

The first time Dick ever wore a dress to an important function with Bruce he was 14. Bruce got a matching Gown to encourage him.

Bruce still breaks out a nice Gown on occasion when he feels like it

The entire Batfam knows Gender is Fake and its very freeing

Bruce can and has fought crime in a pair of Heels he borrowed. It was dubbed "The Night of Fabulous Legs" as Dick also joined in. Jason and Tim could not make it two feet before falling and they could not find any in Damien's size. Meanwhile Cass abd Stephanie and Barbara were in their usual costumes and teasing them

Bruce and Selina are Platonic Partners, mostly because they want all of the Obnoxious Rich people and Gold Diggers to leave then alone. Bruce has a massive Family of Vigilantes he loves dearly, and Selina is too focused on Theft and Cats.

On that note Neither Bruce, Selina, Cass and Jason have experienced Romantic Attraction. Jason is Aro Pansexual. Cass is Aro and Questioning. Abd Bruce abd Selina are both Aro Ace.

Cass pulls off a Suit very very well and it has made many girls her age question both their Gender and Sexuality.

You'd Think Dick is the one who pulls off a dress the best but he only reigns supreme in Cocktail dresses. Jason and Duke are tied for best in a Ballgown.

Bruce still pulls it off better

This has been a long on going contest and no one has yet to win

Most of the Batfam has done some kind of Dance lessons. Jason was Damn good at Ballet and stays in practice. He can kill you with his Big Toe and Pirouette away with ease

Damien is big little sibling energy. He often takes stuff from the others. Mostly he takes anything that can be used as a Plate or Bowl and eats off of it when he wants to get a rise out of anyone

Tim once showed up to a Board meeting at Wayne Enterprises dressed up like a small Bruce. Bruce came in very shortly after dressed like Tim with a pot of Coffee and all. They spent the entire day pretending to be the other person in the most over the top ways.

Cassandra Cain has Opinions on Chocolate. Its Dark or nothing.

Stephanie love white Chocolate and this has cause many fights between Stephanie and Cass.

Everyone fears Alfred's disappointed voice. Even Superman when he visits.

Alfred can only be bribed with properly made Jaffa Cakes. No one has figured out how to make what Alfred calls a "Proper" Jaffa Cake and he will never tell.

The entire Batfam (and a few of the justice league members) all watch Great British Baking Show religiously. Bruce does an amazing Prue Leith impression and Barbara does a scary good Paul Hollywood

Damien likes to bake the recipes from the show. He makes it harder on himself by refusing to read the recipes and only goes off what he sees in the show

He has only ever managed to make 1 bake right and it was a Paul Hollywood Bread Week Technical. Everyone was in awe.

Might add more later, enjoy!

[whalehouse1]

Does anyone else hc Jason Todd and Cassandra Cain as ace/aro? I know Jason has canonically had sex with multiple women and Cass has been canonically into guys but since this is DC canon, I think we can all agree that it’s super easy to just ignore those facts.

[tangledbea]

I 100% agree with that ace/aro anon. Just because two characters smile at each other one time doesn’t mean they’re into each other. That’s kind of a dumb policy for shipping in general if that’s the only policy. By that logic Max and Pascal should be a thing because they smiled at each other.

I was about to say, "I'm amazed no one ships them," but I bet there's people who do. XD

But using "smiled at each other one time" as a basis for criteria is a little bit of an exaggeration. I think mostly two characters smiling at each other one time make people sit up and watch them and see if there's anything else to base a ship off of. (Not that ships require anything of substance at all. Back in the day, we called those crack ships, and they were glorious.)

The critique is more about watching everything with a shipping lens. I can't count the number of times I've been asked who I ship Cassandra or Varian with, and the answer is: no one. I don't ship them with anyone, because I'm not a big shipper. If I had to pull names out of a hat, I might see the potential in Cass and Lady Caine or Varian and Vex or Catalina, but that's at a cursory glance with no depth to my opinion. I have no headcanons, I have no emotional attachment to it or intention of drawing it, if people asked me questions about those ships, I'd have to come up with answers on the fly because I've formed no opinions whatsoever.

One of the things I've always praised TTS for is Eugene and Lance's relationship. They've stripped away the toxic masculinity and given us two guys - one who's in a committed relationship with a woman and one who has a crush on a woman, regardless of their sexual orientation (I headcanon them both as bi, FYI) - and allowed them to be physically affectionate and use the actual phrase, "I love you," between them. And yes, there's people who ship them, but I find it incredibly significant that they allowed this affectionate male friendship to exist with no romantic undercurrent. It's beautiful, and I appreciate it so hard. More media needs to be less afraid of that. Men need to be less afraid to openly love their friends.

In this current era where LGBTQ+ media is getting much-deserved stronger and stronger rep, I can absolutely see why people will continue to look for and see queer romantic relationships in media where it's not explicitly canon. For decades, the community has been starving for representation, and who wouldn't project onto a character they identify with? But I for one get more enjoyment out of media without looking for romantic subplots (or overt plots) unless they're really compelling to me. And this goes for straight and queer.

[batfamasks]

💙 all of them

Ok. Wow. Crossover ships. I've never really thought about this before. Maribat won't be on this list, because I like the bio dad!bruce part of the fandom.

Alfred Pennyworth: Edwin Jarvis - No explanation necessary, but because I have adhd, I will explain. They're both British butlers who are father figures for orphaned, billionaire, non-powered superheros.

Leslie Thomkins: Dr. Mccoy - They're both doctors.

Bruce Wayne: Qrow Branwen - I have a headcannon that John Constantine and Bruce f**ked, and Qrow really isn't all that diffrent from Constantine if you think about it.

Kate Kane: Carol Danvers - Kate's from a millitary family and went to West Point, and Carol was in the Air Force.

Dick Grayson: Quicksilver (the mcu or x-men movies versions) - I just think they have really similar personalities.

Barbra Gordon: Alex Dunphy - They're both geniuses.

Jason Todd: Jo March - I feel like they would have fun beating people up together.

Tim Drake: Will Solace - Tim has a thing for blondes, and I feel like Will can get Tim to switch to decaf and sleep every once and a while.

Stephanie Brown: Ruby Rose - One word: Cloaks! And similar personalities.

Cassandra Cain: no one - Cass is aro in my headcannon

Damian Wayne: John Arc - The contrast in their personalities is amusing.

Duke Thomas: Magnus Chase - They both seem normal compared to the people they hang out with but they're just as crazy. And they both glow.

[alex-denton]

Ooooh that seems fun. Can I ?

Nightwing/Dick Grayson (love the name Felicia tho) : Pansexual cis dude (I just get that vibe from him)

Jason Todd/Red Hood : Asexual trans dude (did he get a good book since you made this ?)

Tim Drake/Red Robin : Bisexual cis dude (I clocked him as bi years ago, always just made sense to me. Also might have consumed an unhealthy amount of Connor/Tim fanfics XD)

Stephanie Brown/Batgirl : Bisexual cis dudette (And I want her to be in a trouple with Cass and Tim ^^)

Damian Wayne/Robin : Aro/Ace cis dude

Barbara Gordon/Oracle : Bisexual trans dudette(I read that interpretation in a fic like a decade ago and it stuck with me)

Cassandra Cain/Batgirl : Lesbian cis dudette (and the best Batgirl :) )

Unfortunately I don't know enough about Duke. Time to correct that I guess :)

Oh, and Helena Wayne is a lesbian and living a happy life with her wife PowerGirl of course ^^

Robin and Batgirl LGBT+ hcs. (these are mine, if yours are different that is fine fine)

Nightwing/Felicia Grayson: Bisexual Trans Woman (Free Her from Gotham).

Jason Todd/Red Hood: Cishet Dude. (he can be queer when he gets an actually good book).

Tim Drake: Cis Bisexual Dude. Just Some Guy, who happens to be bi.

Stephanie Brown/Batgirl: Bisexual Cis Woman. Purple .

Damian Wayne/Robin: Trans Girl (Not sure her sexuality). (Keeps the name Damian).

Barbara Gordon/Oracle: Cis Lesbian. Not joking.

Cassandra Cain/Batgirl: Bisexual Trans Woman. Chad Top Queen.

Duke Thomas/Signal: Bisexual Trans Dude. Cool Dude.

[captainxandis]

Do you have any Cassandra Cain fanfic recommendations?

TBH I have far too many Cassandra Cain ficrecs. I read a very large amount of Cass stuff because I’m a nerd. First off though, I’m going to just say @stephaniie-brown​ has a ton of Cass fics (and harper fics and then a ridiculous amount of Steph fics) on her AO3 which you can find right here. I read a lot of her stuff it’s really good :’)

ANYWAYS! First two I’m slipping in are my own.

Sibling Bonding (G)

Jason has a bad day and then him and Cass chill. 523 words.

Baby Bat (G)

Cass gets hit by an aging spell and loses her memories in the process. Basically just a ton of Batfam fluff centered around Cass and them all being overprotective. Unfinished. 2 Chapters (so far), 2411 words

Deaged Batgirls (T)

I’m unable to help myself so here have another fic about tiny Batgirls. Steph and Cass both get de-aged and pretty much just decide Jason is the best. 4 chapters, 4206 words

Tax Benefits (G)

Hey look! One by @stephaniie-brown lol. The first of many. Anyways, this is an Ace!Steph and Ace!Aro!Dami fic but heavily involves Cass. Steph and Damian got married for tax benefits since they live together and Cass was very much upset about not being invited (despite the fact that they didn’t invite anyone). 1316 words

Funnel Cake (G)

And another one by @stephaniie-brown because I’m love her writing. Steph and Harper take Damian and Cass to the fair because they’ve never been. I’m like 80% sure I sent in the prompt for this. 3557 words

Not So Long Ago in a Gotham Not So Far Away (G)

Super cute fic ft steph, cass, harper and tim. Very much fluff and a big group of nerds loving Star Wars. 1357 words.

The Gotham Girl Gang Gets A Dog (G)

This is exactly what it sounds like. Cass, Harper, Steph and their new puppy Batman. Seriously it’s one of the cutest fics ever and I love it. 1178 words

Cass Appreciation Prompts (Series) (Fics are all G or T)

Okay so a bunch of the fics I was going to reccomend are in this so to save time I’m just going to link the series. Bunch of Cass-Centric fics with varying themes. 25 works total

Legends of the Bats (G)

And again another by @stephaniie-brown lol. A modern fantasy AU centered around the Batfam. A story about how they all find eachother again after centuries that is super amazing.

Okay so that’s it for this one. Not as long as it would’ve been since I linked a series instead of the 10-15 fics out of it that I was going to link. I have a horrible habit of not bookmarking literally anything so going back and finding fics is a pain in the butt but for you anon, I will try my best. More ficrecs to come!!!