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sageourplanetmeow · 4 months ago
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Aro Ace Alastor Headcannons
He doesn’t know the term ‘aro ace’
He believes that he hasn’t found the right person yet but he doesn’t mind not being in a relationship
But he does have an idea that he might not be as interested in romance and s*x as others
If you want to lean into the angst then maybe he would deny it if anyone explained what ‘ace in the hole’ means.
Or for comedy’s sake he might make a bunch of aro ace jokes and puns.
Radiosilence. It happened. Vox thought he was disgusted by him liking men. Alastor just got disgusted by the romance and thought that Vox didn’t value their friendship. Neither explained this however and instead parted ways and had a battle at some point.
I think he could get a good character dynamic with Angel due to him probably knowing the modern terminology for queer stuff.
Alastor reads murder mysteries and already knows the murderer, their motives and how they committed the murder very early on. I think if there’s romance in them he probably gets interested in the plot that’s involved with it.
I have a feeling he attended Rosie’s divorce party after she killed her husband (or something) and asked her “Why did you even marry him in the first place my dear?”
I think back in the day he would have defended queer people who were being discriminated against. That idea is from ‘Cuttin’ On The Ritz’ on AO3.
It would be interesting if for Valentine everyone got a lesson from Charlie and Vaggie about healthy romantic relationships and Alastor would be confused for a lot of it and would ask a few questions that would seem a bit dumb. Maybe Vaggie would think he was joking but Angel and Charlie might have gotten an inkling that Alastor was at least aspec. Part way through Charlie asks everyone what their romantic/s*xual orientations are and it goes:
Nifty= straight (she’d probably also say some funny stuff)
Husker= guys, girls and other genders and Angel tells him that’s probably pansexual
Charlie= bisexual
Vaggie= lesbian
Sir Pentious= bisexual
Lucifer= Pansexual but he’d probably say straight
Angel Dust= F*ckin’ gay toots
Cherri Bomb= Bisexual
Alastor= Straight
“Al didn’t Rosie say you were ace?”
“I am not a dollar bill my dear, was she telling a joke?”
“Er- I thought she meant asexual”
“I don’t believe I am a terribly s*xual person”
“No as in-“
“Smiles, she means that you don’t experience s*xual attraction”
“Impossible, I may not have experienced it yet but Rosie knows that I haven’t found someone to match myself in perfection”
“Not even romance?” (Lucifer)
“Well, I certainly do not understand this ‘fluttering’ feeling you describe. It seems awfully similar to some ailment”
Ahem, here are some aro ace fanfics, comics, dubs and animations that I interpret (or are explicitly stated) as having Alastor as aro ace or aspec.
That is to do with Alastor’s mother, it has hints of him being aro ace.
That is some nice Alastor and Charlie father-daughter time I guess.
Angel explains the ‘ace in the hole’ joke to Alastor
Aro ace stuff again, it’s great
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And I have reached the limit for videos… *sigh* but there’s ’Radio Pride’. There was a comic dub of it done by Lou’s Dubs 3 years ago.
My fanfic shall include aro ace Alastor moments and there will be a character arch involving him discovering that so stay tuned.
My plans are also to include some more characters that are aspec. For example, Velvette as an asexual lesbian. I think having Rosie as aromantic would also make sense because that would explain her finding out that Alastor is very likely aro ace after doing digging for her own sake. I remember seeing it in a fanfic so yep. I’ll do another post about other queer headcannons for characters.
And here are the informative stuff I found regarding aro ace topics:
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Now I do want to say… I don’t like how Vivziepop handles it. I love the characters and the show is my favourite show of all time but… it’s just some things she’s said. A lot of things she’s said but I’ll only focus on the things she has said regarding Alastor being aspec. She has said problematic things like not wanting to confirm that Alastor was aromantic as well as asexual because she didn’t want to ruin the fan’s fun. Yet, basically every other character has a confirmed sexuality and people still ship them with a character whose gender they’re not attracted to. Fandom will still ship Alastor. I’m fine with it personally so long as it’s done respectfully and I guess for now since we don’t know if Alastor is aromantic due to Vivziepop’s refusing to confirm it then I think romantic relationships are cool so long as people remember that he’s very likely also aromantic. Amir Talai said it but I think he took it back so who knows. But I think it’s disrespectful to say what she said because it connotes that aromantic people/aspec/aroace people ruin people’s fun, it might not have been what she intended but the wording was pretty awful. Anyways please don’t hate that’s just my thoughts, this is mainly a fun little post including some aro ace Alastor content of my own as well as sharing some content that other people have made.
However, I do think the whole ‘ace in the hole’ joke was clever so well done to the writers. It means people can go search it up and learn about aro ace people yippee. Also, due to Alastor I figured out that I’m aro ace so YAYYYYY.
After this post I’m doing one for Vox so stay tuned~
There’s also gonna be an aro ace Alastor animatic which is meant to be comedic more than anything but yeah have fun cya.
(No hate to shippers, if you’re respectful about him being aro ace then it’s all cool, but also respect aspec people who don’t agree with Alastor ships, they’re also in the right)
I like ships, they’re fun, the fanart is great, the writing and the storylines are great, I just want a bit more aro ace Alastor content which I’d like to create more of myself.
If people genuinely don’t know, I don’t blame them, I get it could be a show you just watch casually and by some chance you don’t know that he’s aspec.
Don’t take this with offense, please, thank you, goodbye, have a nice day/night.
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fanby-fckry · 7 months ago
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Actually, I Don’t Like Cake Either
Day 1 of Ace Alastor Week: Cake Day
Word Count: 1,433
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Hazbin Hotel (Cartoon)
Rating: General Audiences
Archive Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Additional Warnings: Spoilers for Hazbin Hotel Season 1 Episode 8 The Show Must Go On
Relationships: Alastor & Rosie (Hazbin Hotel), Alastor & Charlie Magne | Morningstar
Characters: Alastor (Hazbin Hotel), Rosie (Hazbin Hotel), Mentioned Charlie Magne | Morningstar, Mentioned Hazbin Hotel Ensemble
Additional Tags: Canon Compliant (mostly), Post-Season/Series 01, Humor, Attempt at Humor, Light Angst, Friendship, Asexual Alastor (Hazbin Hotel), Aromantic Asexual Alastor (Hazbin Hotel), Alastor is Bad at Feelings (Hazbin Hotel), Alastor Has a Heart (Hazbin Hotel), Talking, Conversations, Ace Community Inside Jokes
Series: Part 1 of Fanby’s Ace Alastor Week 2024 || Part 1 of Piece of Cake! ( || Next -> )
Summary:
“This isn’t the first cake,” Alastor confessed. “This isn’t even the second or the third! No, no, no, this is the sixth – the sixth – cake she’s given me since I returned to the hotel!”
Alastor broke into manic laughter. “I don’t even like cake!” he said. “I detest sweet things! Can’t stand them! But for some reason she Just. Keeps. Baking them!”
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For some unknown reason, Charlie keeps baking Alastor cakes. With no sweet-tooth to speak of, nor the willpower to face Charlie’s disappointment should he turn down her gifts, Alastor seeks Rosie’s help with this dessert debacle.
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Alastor made his way through Cannibal Town, walking with a purpose and a cardboard pastry box.
In fact, the box was his purpose for being in Cannibal Town today.
He needed advice. And who better to ask than his dear friend Rosie?
“Alastor!” Rosie dropped everything she was doing to come rushing over to him. “Oh, it’s so good to see you! Things get so gloomy here without you!”
Alastor lifted the box above his head and out of the way as Rosie wrapped an arm around his waist and pulled him in for a hug.
The movement drew Rosie’s eyes upwards, and after a moment spent embracing him, Rosie turned her attention to the box.
“What’ve we got here?” she asked.
“My reason for visiting!” Alastor announced. Then, somewhat quieter, “If I could just speak to you in private…”
“Of course, of course!” Rosie ushered Alastor away from the crowd and into one of the more secluded spaces of her emporium – the same room they’d used to discuss Rosie’s potential involvement in defending the hotel.
“Come, sit down, get comfy.” She motioned for Alastor to take the closer chair, then crossed the table to take her own seat.
Alastor did sit, but he felt far from comfortable.
“Well?” Rosie folded her hands in her lap, and Alastor felt distinctly aware of his own hands, still gripping the cardboard box. “Show me what’s in this mysterious box of yours.”
Alastor set the box on the table and opened it to reveal…
“A cake?” Rosie laughed. “Alastor, you charmer, did you bake me a cake?”
Alastor exhaled in a sigh, releasing a breath he hadn’t realized he’d been holding.
“Actually, Charlie did!” he said, doing his best to keep his cadence and tone in its typical Transatlantic manner. “Although she baked it for me. I just didn’t want it to go to waste and was hoping you might know of at least one demon around here with a sweet tooth!”
Rosie raised one eyebrow. “There’s more you’re not tellin’ me, dearie,” she said.
Alastor looked down at the cake. Then back up at Rosie. Then at the cake again.
Even with his smile, Rosie could read him like an open book. There was no point in trying to deceive her. And besides, he had come here to ask for her help.
“This isn’t the first cake,” Alastor confessed. “This isn’t even the second or the third! No, no, no, this is the sixth – the sixth – cake she’s given me since I returned to the hotel!”
Alastor broke into manic laughter. “I don’t even like cake!” he said. “I detest sweet things! Can’t stand them! But for some reason she Just. Keeps. Baking them!”
“And then she hands them off to me with that smile of hers and…” Alastor closed his eyes.
He didn’t tell Rosie that he’d grown fond of Charlie. That he genuinely considered her a friend and couldn’t stand the thought of seeing that smile fall. A smile that was so unlike his own: honest and true where his was a weapon, a mask, and – more often than not these days – a lie.
He didn’t need to. Because Rosie already knew.
Alastor opened his eyes and folded his hands on the table. “I just don’t want it to go to waste,” he repeated, and it was half true.
“Why don’t you give it to one of the other guests at that hotel of hers?” Rosie asked.
“Because she would know,” Alastor insisted. “Vaggie and Angel Dust would sell me out in a heartbeat! Even if I gave it to Husker or Niffty and ordered them not to tell, it would only be a matter of time before she figured it out.”
“And besides,” he added. “Niffty really shouldn’t be eating this much sugar.”
Niffty on a sugar rush was a level of chaos even Alastor struggled to endure. At one point, the tiny cyclops had eaten an entire batch of cupcakes and wound up deep cleaning Alastor’s radio tower and stabbing a dozen demons – one of which was Alastor, himself! Non-lethally, of course. Although, the same couldn’t be said for the other eleven.
“Well, what did you do with the other five?” Rosie asked.
“Opened a portal and threw them into the same dimension I summon my tentacles from,” Alastor said with a dismissive hand wave. “They’re probably rotting in there. I’m not entirely sure whether or not those abominations eat, but I’d assume that if they do, they’re carnivorous.”
Rosie shrugged. “Well, I don’t mind sweets myself,” she said. “I prefer when they’ve got a little blood baked in, of course, but I can make do.”
“Thank you,” Alastor said, relief washing over him as Rosie picked up a knife to cut herself a slice.
“I don’t know what I’m going to do if she keeps this up,” he admitted.
Alastor knew what he had to do, and what would happen if he failed to do it. But he didn’t like the looks of either option.
Either Alastor was going to have to tell Charlie to stop and watch her mope around like a kicked puppy, or someone would eventually figure out that he was going out of his way to avoid disappointing her.
His reputation had already taken a massive hit after his battle with Adam – his televised defeat, his failure. He couldn’t afford to let any more evidence of weakness reach the masses.
Alastor’s inner monologue was interrupted by Rosie’s laughter.
“What?” he asked. “What’s so funny?”
Rosie stifled her laughter and put a hand on Alastor’s shoulder. “I think I might just have an answer to your dessert debacle, darling.”
“Oh?” Alastor’s ears perked up at the thought of a solution.
“Tell her you’d rather have garlic bread,” Rosie said, smiling ear to ear. “Bonus points if you use those exact words.”
Alastor tilted his head at a forty five degree angle. Garlic bread? he wondered. What does garlic bread have to do with anything?
But, he did prefer garlic bread to cake. Maybe if he could channel Charlie’s inexplicable urge to bake towards something he might actually eat, then he could have his cake and eat it too, so to speak.
“Well, it’s worth a shot!” Alastor decided. “Thank you for the advice, my dear. I may not grasp the particulars, but I trust your judgment! You always did have such a knack for these things. Why, it’s no wonder you’re Cannibal Town’s go-to gal for guidance.”
“Aww,” Rosie cooed, swatting playfully at his arm. “You’re such a flatterer. You’re gonna make me blush!”
Rosie hummed and took a bite of Alastor’s unwanted cake.
“Guess you’d better get back to that hotel and tell the Princess about the menu change before she fires up the oven again,” she said after swallowing the bite.
Alastor laughed. “Oh, I think I can stay a while,” he said. “Surely she’s gotten it out of her system for the time being.”
“You said this is the sixth cake?” Rosie asked.
“Yes,” Alastor confirmed.
“And would you say the rate she bakes them is consistent?”
“Hm,” Alastor hummed. “The first one was to celebrate my return… Then she baked another later in the month, then one about a week later… Two last week, and now…”
“Shit,” he cursed as it finally hit him. “The cakes are increasing.”
“Mhmm,” Rosie hummed. “How long did you have this one before you managed to sneak it out of the hotel?”
Alastor’s smile widened. “Well, it was great chatting with you, darling!” he said, wrapping Rosie into a hug and preparing to take his leave. “I’ll be seeing you!”
Rosie giggled. “Good to see you too, Alastor.”
She hugged him back, wished him luck, and just like that, Alastor was on his way.
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Rosie speared a piece of cake onto her fork, capturing all four distinctly dyed layers – black, gray, white, and purple, in that order.
“Oh, Alastor,” she said to herself with a sigh.
If only he would stop cutting her off every time she tried to actually bring up the concepts of asexuality and aromanticism.
Rosie could make jokes and puns that flew over Alastor’s head – although not over a certain Princess’s head, apparently – day in and day out, but the minute she tried to explain the identities behind them, she was met with, ‘I don’t care for all those modern labels,’ and ‘I don’t understand what any of this has to do with me!’
Too bad, really. Alastor would probably get a kick out of aroace in-jokes. Even if he didn’t like cake.
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vroomvroomwee · 2 months ago
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Here's the latest chapter!
Spoilers below:
Spoliers: Lots of aroace and trans fluff in this one
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nothanksimsleepy · 9 months ago
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Unpopular opinion, but...
I hate yanderes with a passion.
I don't hate the character architype, oh no.
What I hate are the fanfictions with one of the characters being a Yandere. Especially when it doesn't fit their character in the cannon.
A for instance, for you (because I've seen a weird amount of these): Can you POSSIBLY imagine a realistic instance in which ANY of the Haikyuu!! characters would commit murder because their s/o looked at someone else for five seconds?????
I CAN'T!!
Honestly, a Haikyuu!! fanfic isn't even what I'm mad about because I haven't read one since quarantine!!
No, what I'm mad about is the fact that when I look up a certain series (video game or animated, up to you to guess), ALL THE FANFICS ARE YANDERE THEMED???? WHY????
It's so bad it's making me go insane please help me--
OUT OF CURIOSITY, I LOOKED UP HAZBIN HOTEL FICS (it's only been a little bit since the show came out, I usually wait a few months before looking into fanfics for a new show) AND TELL ME WHY ALMOST ALL OF THEM WERE FUCKING ALASTOR X READER YANDERE FICS?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!
My pet peeve there is that ALASTOR IS ARO/ACE HE WOULDN'T GIVE ANYONE THE TIME OF DAY???? Like, this is canon and no one seems to care???
It's fine to assume when nothing is confirmed and it's fine to let your imagination run wild in those cases, but when the characters sexuality is confirmed, it's a little insulting to watch an entire fandom completely ignore it. Alastor is a fun character and I get the appeal, believe me, but idk I find it disrespectful. It's like shipping Angel Dust, who is Gay, completely only into men in a romantic or sexual way, with Cherri Bomb. It just gives me the ick, y'know?
Anyway that's the end of my rant
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brain-attic · 8 months ago
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Art done by Kaliifornia8
Fandom: Hazbin Hotel Fanfic 18+
Summary:
Kris is a simple woman in Hell. Well, simpleish. Her one main goal is to take out any demon that takes advantage of those weaker than them. Granted, it's Hell; they all technically belong there and there are no innocents, but some are less capable of self-defense than others. Her target right now? Valentino. When she hears his favorite plaything resides outside of his studio, she takes full advantage and uses it as an opportunity to get information. The problem is, she did not plan for The Radio Demon to be there, or for him to take an interest in her of all people, nor did she expect to grow to care so much about the group of misfits.
This follows season 1 starting at episode 2 and has original chapters not in the show directly.
Characters are as close as possible to in show; only change is Alastor is not aro/ace.
Warnings: Violence, Sexual Nature, Eventual Smut
Read Here:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/54373081/chapters/137720386
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confusionocturne · 7 months ago
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You just made my day ! No pressure for writing, don't worry. Thank you for writing this headcanon !
I'm really happy that you decided to go with the "doesn't understand but respect it and tries" way. I'd love to try Alastor's fancy vegetarian meals now though, haha, as a lazy cook myself (although I wouldn't be opposed to helping from time to time when the energy is there, if he'd want me) Homemade cooking is the best. I'd be happy to test any vegetarian recipee he makes !
Thank you again !
Hi, how have you been ? Just in case you're still wanting to write some light headcanons- I've be curious to see how Alastor would react if his queerplatonic partner was a vegetarian (it made me laugh thinking about it, as a vegetarian myself, haha)
Hi there! Sorry, I’ve been a bit busy lately but I promise I’m trying to get back to writing more haha. I LOVE this idea as a vegetarian myself, so this ask was a delightful surprise in my inbox. 
Alastor x Vegetarian! Queerplatonic Partner Headcanons 
Alastor finds out you’re vegetarian when you are eating dinner together in his room and he offers you some venison he prepared for both of you
You decline and get some leftovers to eat instead. Then you explain that you’re vegetarian but he asks you what that is (considering vegetarianism was far less popular in the 20s and his best friend is a fellow cannibal)
At first he finds the concept a little funny because he certainly would never limit his food options but ultimately he respects your choice and would never force you to have food that goes against your moral code
He then has some fun with it when he realises that there’s a whole host of vegetarian meals he’s never cooked before (and Alastor is VERY passionate about cooking - especially for you)
After seeing you having to eat leftovers, he decides to surprise you with the fanciest vegetarian meals imaginable. Frequently. 
You can tell he’s enjoying exploring a whole new side of cooking and surprising you but he rarely eats the veggie meals he makes because his bloodlust is too strong
If you do like cooking then you bond over making the dishes with him; if not, then he temporarily bans you from the kitchen when he cooks as a means to surprise you with the final result!
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normansnt · 9 months ago
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Ace
(Alastor x male reader)
Explain to Alastor what Ace means
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"(Y/N)?" Called out Alastor to you
"Yes?" You answered not looking up from what you were reading.
"Would you like to go, get some coffee with me, in, what your generation calls, a date?"
Now to this you looked up.
"What?" You answered very confused
"In a...romantic way?" He tried explaining it to you thinking thats the part you didn't understand.
"I mean...I would love to but you dont have to push yourself if it would make you feel uncomfortable" you answered while you put your book down slowly on the coffee table.
"Uncomfortable? Why would it make me uncomfortable we are close are we not?"
Now he got confused as well.
"Well because...your ace and/or aro?"
"What is with that word, Rosie said it as well and the meaning of it still avoids me" he answered starting to get annoyed by his lack of understanding.
"What- ohhhh what did you say when did you die?"
"1933, however its quite rude to ask someone that." He answered looking at you in a scolding way.
"I'm sorry but because you lived back than thats why you don't know that word, please sit let me explain"
He sat down on the couch in front of you.
"Ok, so when we say 'ace' we refer to someone who has little to no sexual attraction and aromantic or aro is someone who has little to no romantic attraction. Of course there is much more to this subject but this kind of sums it up."
Alastor just stared at you.
Him? Not being interested in romantic relationships or sex??
Thats...true. He never felt the need to sleep with anyone he was doing totally fine without it. Romance...was another category completely however, and he didn't know if it was something he was interested in it or not.
He asked you out in the first place because he felt very good in your presence. He felt comfortable and content. Was that not romance?
"Alastor?" He has been staring at you for a while and it was quite creepy.
"Listen I understand thats a lot of information to process especially if you just realized some things about yourself so I can leave if you like-"
"No" Answered Alastor a bit fast. He has made up his mind. He might not be interested in a sexual relationship however he really wanted to kiss you right now.
"It might be true that I have not known this so far in my life or death, and you did make me realize some things about myself, but even so my offer still stands."
"Oh? Are you sure because I only want to if it doesn't make you uncom-"
You couldn't get the rest of your sentence out due to a pair of lips on yours.
Alastor kissed you.
You were stunned for a second but after you realized what was happening you kissed back immediately.
His lips were surprisingly soft, not to mention he did pretty good looking at the fact that it was his first kiss.
"Trust me, dear, If something would make me uncomfortable I wouldn't do it." He said grinning and holding your chin after you two parted.
You were a blushing mess.
You've never thought about Alastor that way, since you thought he was aromantic. But now that you did, fucking god, you like him.
Whit that thought in mind you kissed him again.
This time you stood up and he put his hands on your waist while yours were on his neck.
It wasn't a heated kiss and it will never be very likely you didn't want to step over his boundaries.
"...So my dear, would you like to get that coffee now?" He asked smiling while offering you his arm.
"I would love to" you smiled back at him.
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Guys I have a serious problem Im literally shitting words I have never written this many fanfics in one go����
BUT YK WHAT WORTH IT CUZ I LOVE EM
I literally love almost all characters in hazbin hotel so much I JUST CANNOT STOP💀
Thank you sm for the correction @whyarewehere103 😎🙏🧡
I hope you enjoyed your reading ladies,gentleman and other, good afternoon good evening and good night🦖🧡
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contumacious-arcadia · 4 months ago
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Hello! I'm aware there is a lot of discontent around shipping Alastor with anyone since it's been stated that he is an asexual character and I would also like to throw my two cents out into the void pertaining to the issue. I *really* like radioapple. My lizard brain spouted "they gon' fuck" as soon as I saw "Dad Beat Dad". I find it super charming and enemies-to-lovers is naturally hella entertaining in my opinion - so I started reading radioapple fics and **they may have actually taught me something about myself. ** I'm on the older side (37), and have always just referred to myself as bisexual. I never really considered anything else because when I was younger and learning my own identity, all of the super specified language just wasn't available to me. It didn't really cross my mind to reexamine those conclusions as time passed, because I was under the impression (as many others also seem to be) that asexual meant "ABSOLUTELY ZERO SEX OR SEX-ADJACENT THINGS FOREVER, NO, NYET, NINE" and aromantic meant "ABSOLUTELY DEATHLY ALLERGIC TO ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS, NEVER EVER, NOPE". ...I am definitely not the only one, as this does seem to be the sticking point people argue about when shipping Al with literally anyone. After reading many, many radioapple fics written by people within the asexual and aromantic spectrums, I feel like I've gotten a better handle on the categorization and shockingly (to me, at least) it seems *I* am actually also very aromantic and moderately touch averse (though I would not consider myself asexual). Who would have thunk that fanfic would teach me a very important fact about myself? It was like I was given a key to understanding why my relationships are always so troubled and why I seem to HATE being in relationships, despite repeatedly diving back into them. I literally give each new partner a whole-ass speech about how *incredibly* uncomfortable overly romantic crap makes me feel and how if they start badgering me/guilting me about the whole 'love' concept incessantly, I will likely freak out and end the relationship... and EVERY TIME they pull that crap and then try to guilt me by claiming that they "didn't think I was serious". If I had the language to explain I was aromantic and touch averse (when not specifically gettin' down), I think I could have avoided a lot of damage. Maybe. Anyway, I just wanted to state that shipping an ace or aro/ace character and writing fanfic that actually explains their thought process and feelings can be a SUPER beneficial thing. I don't know why it wasn't obvious to me that nothing is ever 100% black and white, but again, I don't seem to be the only person who believed that. I would gently urge some of the fans who are hardcore (and vocally) *against* shipping Al with anyone to read some of the fics and maybe it can help them adjust their perspective a bit too - just like it helped me. BUT - this *IS* the internet, so if you just want to shout angrily into the void, you can do that too! Two cents complete.
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Reader // Seeds of Doubt // Husk
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A few words from author: Hello there everyone, I'm back again! ^^
This time I'm feeling a bit better, and I'm presenting you a new fanfic format I'm trying out: Scenarios!
It's a bit different from what and how I usually write but I hope you'll still like it. ^^"
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Type: Scenario
Scenario summary: You are Alastor's s/o, but he can sometimes make insensitive comments, so his dearest friend Husker reassures you about Alastor's feelings towards you,
Settings: Fully platonic
Genre: Hurt/Comfort
!TRIGGER WARNING!: Swear words used, light mention of alcohol consumption, typical things one can expect with Husk and Alastor, Reader doubts Alastor's love for them, Husk talks shit about Alastor for a bit but he still comforts reader, Alastor is a little shit and plants doubt into Reader's head for his own amusement, that should be all!
Sidenote: I included reader having doubts because of Alastor being aroace because it made sense in the scenario but I truly hope it didn't offend anyone - I'm ace and possibly on the aro spectrum too, so I really didn't mean to misrepresent the spectrums or anything!! I meant well I swear >-<,
Sidenote: Reader is written as gender neutral, but if the reader description leans more towards feminine sense it's purely unintentional and I apologize!
Sidenote: The editing on phone will be the end of me one day,
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That should be all,
Hope you'll enjoy, <3
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Slouched at the bar, a drink is in your hand,
You're lost in thought,
It's not often you're found like this,
On the contrary, actually,
It's rare for you to sit down and hope to get lost in your drink to avoid your thoughts,
But sometimes Alastor can be rather insensitive,
He can say and do things that hurt and that plant little seeds of doubt in your head,
And whether that'd be deliberately or accidentally is up for a debate,
This time it was about him being aromantic asexual,
He made a comment that suggested him being with you just for pure entertainment, not for affection or anything else because he, as he phrased it: "doesn't feel the need for it after all",
And that didn't feel nice,
Not at all,
Again, he could be just messing with you,
Or maybe he didn't mean for his words to come off that way,
But still,
You worried there might be some truth to his words,
And again, Alastor being on the aroace spectrum didn't mean he felt nothing towards you,
It didn't mean he couldn't feel affection for you or anything similar,
And it definitely didn't mean you two couldn't be in a relationship!
That's why you tried to drink your worries away,
Because you knew they were just that, just worries,
Just thoughts you should pay no attention to,
However, you'd be lying if you said his orientation didn't play into your doubts after his playful but not so kind words,
And maybe that was his goal,
To have you all tense and on your feet, thoughts running wild,
But it still didn't make you feel any better,
And so, you just downed your drink, trying to ease up,
"One more... please," you told Husk who was behind the bar, watching your anxiety eat away at you,
"Geez, the fuck's wrong with you? You never order more than one," Husk commented, though he didn't sound like he actually cared to hear you out,
However, it was obvious he wasn't too indifferent towards you,
He remembered you weren't really a drinker, after all, which was nice to know,
"Nothing much..." you told him with a sigh, "Just overthinking...",
"Yeah, you look the part, you look like a fucking mess" Husk replied, borderline on insulting,
But you've learnt to not take it to heart,
This was just the Husk fashion of talking to people,
Silence then enveloped the two of you, and Husk poured you another glass,
Neither of you spoke until your thoughts got way too bad to ignore,
And you asked Husk a question, desperate to ease your worries,
Even if you knew that Husk was the least person you should go to with such question,
"Do you think Alastor keeps me around just for amusement...?" you asked softly,
And Husk looked a little surprised, before a scowl found its way onto his face again,
"You're seriously asking that just now after dating that piece of shit for months?" he scoffed,
And you looked down,
Husk frowned then, and gave a long sigh,
"Damn, you really are a case..." he muttered before sighing more and rubbing his face,
"What'd that asshole do now?" he questioned, an eyebrow raised,
And while he didn't sound all that much like he cared, you still took the chance to get things off your chest,
"He just... hinted I might be nothing more than just a source of amusement for him," you explain, gaze fixated on your drink,
And once again, Husk sighed, muttering: "Of course that piece of shit would do that, even to his own partner,",
Husk then exhaled through his nose before pinching the bridge of it and speaking again,
"Alright, listen, I hate that son of a bitch more than anything," he started,
"and it's not my fucking job to save his ass and relationship," he paused,
"but I'm gonna do him a favour and cut him some slack,",
Then he sighed and continued: "He does care for you... I mean, I can't say I'm 100% sure, after all that guy's all about messing with people and their emotions,",
"but... from what I can tell, you mean a lot to him..." Husk told you, looking you in the eyes, looking sincere,
"And while I don't think that asshole has anything close to a heart," he sighed lowly, "I guess he wouldn't go as far as to pretend to love someone just for a few laughs...",
"especially not to someone who's proven to be a nice person and a good friend," he told you, shaking his head a little before grabbing the first glass you emptied and beginning washing it,
And doing so, he continued speaking: "He's got some decency... at least I guess he does,",
"But honestly, you should talk to him about this," Husk advised, looking at you seriously, "that's a part of relationships, talking bout feelings, setting boundaries and shit...",
"He's a fucked up, messed up in the head sadist, but I'm sure if you'll be honest with him and tell him how his comments affect you, he'll change his ways..." Husk told you before pausing and thinking,
Then he thought out loud: "Yeah, he'll probably find another way of fucking with ya head, but it'll definitely be less harmful and damaging than what's he's doing now,",
"Of course, I can be wrong about him and this whole thing, I wouldn't be surprised," Husk stated, lifting his hands in surrender as if wanting to decline any responsibility from his advices,
"but... judging by how he acts n all, he does like you in some way... even if just in his own twisted way," he eventually told you then shrugged and again focused on the glass in his hand,
And you were left with lips slightly parted because you've not expected Husk to say anything of what he's just told you,
You were actually prepared for a rant about how much he hates Alastor and how much stupid you are for dating him,
But not this,
You were not prepared for this,
And you were quite pleasantly surprised,
Because hearing reassurance coming from Husk's mouth was a nearly nonexistent occurrence,
And that alone assured you that his words were genuine and meant something,
Even if everything was said in typical Husk fashion,
And, for the first time since sitting down at the bar, you smiled,
You smiled and gazed at Husk with appreciation,
"Thanks, Husk, I needed that," you told him lowly, making him scoff,
"Yeah, yeah, you're welcome or whatever, just don't pull any hugging shit on me or some other mushy bullshit," he scoffed, rolling his eyes,
Then he sighed,
"Now get your ass off that barstool and go talk to that fucken asshole," he ushered you, making a shoo motion with his clawed hand,
And you smiled again, knowing that Husk meant well despite acting rather rude and aloof,
But deciding to heed Husker's words, you nodded and got up from your seat,
"Yeah, yeah, you're right, I should go talk to him," you nodded with a playful smile at Husk's attitude,
"I'll be going now, and you can pour the rest of my drink down the drain," you told him before heading out of the room,
"And thanks again!" you called before rounding the corner and disappearing from sight,
And Husk rolled his eyes again,
But deep down he was glad he managed to comfort you,
Despite you not knowing it, you were quite a good influence on Alastor,
And Husker truly hoped you would continue to cling to the Radio demon's arm even if Lucifer himself put obstacles in the way,
Or well... even if Alastor was the one putting obstacles in the way...
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echo-writes-things · 9 months ago
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I love Alastor but as an ace, questioning aro-flux, I fucking hate tumblr for the fanfics. It’s smut galore by people who don’t understand was asexuality is and don’t take the time to ask someone who is or use google which is free. Literally if ANYONE needs to write an Alastor fanfic even smut I’m open to give people advice on how this shit works. I’m tired of people erasing my only rep.
I’m not saying you can’t write smut or romance for Alastor, but if you are please learn how that works for someone with that orientation. It’s like y’all making a gay man have sex with a woman and coming up with some wack ass excuse for why he did it.
I will literally open DMs and my askbox for people to ask me about it or hell just make a huge post. Obviously I don’t speak for all asexuals and aromantics. But I can speak for a majority of us when we say stop erasing the only representation we get for your fanfics and acting like it’s still apart of the orientation. Your excuses are a lot more hurtful than you think.
Thank you for coming to my tedtalk. I do plan to write an Alastor fanfic but it’ll be keeping his identity in mind.
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Ngl this is my first thought when i found out i was aroace 😂
Before i found out i was aroace, i thought i was special because girls and boys my age literally just spends all their time talking on and on about their crushes when they could do more productive things like idk studying, reading books or fanfics, freaking finish all the chores so you have free time, draw or whateva your hobbies and talents are, spend time with friends and families, etc.
But when i found out tho; i thought "damn i ain't special? (Tʖ̯T)" I honestly wanted to both choke and hug them at the same time to all the other aroaces out there 😂
Sorry for the long rant i couldn't help myself 😅
You know, so true 😭
I was in 7th grade when girls in my class were talking about who they slept with, like, WE WERE 14, WHAT THE FUCK and it felt like they have NOTHING ELSE to talk about, like, gurl don't you have hobbies or anything better than go to parties and fuck?? Me meanwhile drawing dragons 'n shit in my notebooks. this memory for some reason is very strong in my head.
i thought i just slow developing but 10 years passed, nothing changed, i still don't understand and don't find all of this entertaining or interesting
I think i'm just now discovering that i'm somewhere on the ace/aro spectrum, and mostly thanks to Alastor and how people reacting on my portraying of him, saying that i'm providing good ace rep 😅 And my reaction is like "oh okay then", probably because i never faced the "why r u alone, you need to find a boyfriend" thing (although i think my mom is starting it...)
(tho i'm still not sure, some of this may be caused by some health or mental problems, that's totally possible)
anyway yeah, sorry for that too lmao
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fanby-fckry · 7 months ago
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What’s the Deal With the Five Foot Rule?
Day 2 of Ace Alastor Week: No Touch Tuesday
Word Count: 1,868
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Hazbin Hotel (Cartoon)
Rating: Teen and Up Audiences
Archive Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Additional Warnings: Threats of Violence, References to Alastor-Typical Cannibalism/Violence, Implied/Referenced Abuse
Relationships: Alastor & Angel Dust & Husk (Hazbin Hotel), Alastor & Angel Dust (Hazbin Hotel), Alastor & Husk (Hazbin Hotel), Angel Dust & Husk (Hazbin Hotel)
Characters: Alastor (Hazbin Hotel), Angel Dust (Hazbin Hotel), Husk (Hazbin Hotel), Mentioned Mimzy (Hazbin Hotel), Mentioned Hazbin Hotel Ensemble, Mentioned Valentino (Hazbin Hotel)
Additional Tags: Canon Compliant (mostly), Post-Episode: s01e05 Dad Beat Dad, Humor, Attempt at Humor, Light Angst, Developing Friendships, Asexual Alastor (Hazbin Hotel), Aromantic Asexual Alastor (Hazbin Hotel), Touch-Averse Alastor (Hazbin Hotel), Touch-Starved Alastor (Hazbin Hotel), (both tags are relevant trust me), Alastor is Bad at Feelings (Hazbin Hotel), Alastor Being a Jerk (Hazbin Hotel), Alastor Being Alastor (Hazbin Hotel), Angel Dust Being Angel Dust (Hazbin Hotel), Protective Husk (Hazbin Hotel), Husk is So Done (Hazbin Hotel), Drinking, Drinking & Talking, The Five Foot Rule (Hazbin Hotel), Hunicast References, you can pry the hunicast platonic radiodust dynamic from my cold dead hands
Series: Part 2 of Fanby’s Ace Alastor Week 2024 ( <- Prev || Next -> )
Summary:
“So, smiles,” Angel said, leaning against the bar and nursing a drink. “What’s your deal?”
Radio feedback crackled in the air while Husk frantically made ‘cut it out’ gestures from over Alastor’s shoulder.
“My Deal?” Alastor repeated in a tone that made Angel suspect he’d touched a nerve in a way he hadn’t even been trying to.
“Uh yeah, the whole ‘five foot rule’ thing,” Angel clarified, and watched as Alastor and Husk both visibly relaxed. “What’s up with that?”
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A cat, a deer, and a spider walk into a hotel bar, get drunk, and discuss the finer points of Alastor’s famous ‘five foot rule’.
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“So, smiles,” Angel said, leaning against the bar and nursing a drink. “What’s your deal?”
Radio feedback crackled in the air while Husk frantically made ‘cut it out’ gestures from over Alastor’s shoulder.
“My Deal?” Alastor repeated in a tone that made Angel suspect he’d touched a nerve in a way he hadn’t even been trying to.
“Uh yeah, the whole ‘five foot rule’ thing,” Angel clarified, and watched as Alastor and Husk both visibly relaxed. “What’s up with that?”
“Oh, it’s quite simple, really!” Alastor said, brightly. “Don’t touch me, and you keep your hands!”
“Right, but…” Angel hesitated. For a split second, he wondered if maybe he should just leave well enough alone.
But between the liquid courage and Angel’s already small threshold when it came to regard for his own safety, he decided to just fucking go for it.
“You’re always all up in everyone else’s personal space,” he said.
Alastor tilted his head in that cute, deer-like way of his. “I don’t follow.”
“Well, take Husky, for instance-”
“Uh-uh,” Husk interrupted. “Leave me outta this, legs.”
“Nonsense!” Alastor said, interrupting Husk’s interruption by physically covering his mouth. “Let the man speak!”
“The five foot rule applies to Husk, right?” Angel asked.
“Why, of course!” Alastor answered. “And dear Husker knows better than to break it!”
Alastor wrapped his arm around a very disgruntled Husk’s shoulders, tugging him half-way over the bar. Husk hissed and squirmed, but Alastor’s grip was evidently a vice.
Which was exactly Angel’s point.
“But you’re all over him right now!” Angel said, gesturing to Alastor’s obvious breach of both his own rule and Husk’s comfort zone.
“Hmm,” Alastor hummed. Alastor pushed Husk down onto the bar and used him as an armrest as he tucked a fist under his chin. “I suppose I am!”
“And it ain’t just Husk, neither!” Angel said. “I mean, Charlie, Vaggie, fuckin’ Lucifer,” he listed. “Me, on occasion…” Although that’d mostly stopped since Angel had a panic attack that one time. Small mercies.
“I’m not countin’ Niffty and Mimzy, ‘cause it kinda seems like they’re exceptions to whatever the fuck this rule actually is, anyway,” Angel continued. “But that’s still a whole lotta people you’re gettin’ handsy with on a regular basis, Al.”
“You do have a point there, my friend,” Alastor mused, while Angel silently noted the upgrade from ‘fellow’ to ‘friend.’ He had no idea whether or not it actually indicated friendship – Alastor called Husk ‘friend’ too – but it was good to keep track of all the same.
Alastor released Husk in favor of polishing off the rest of his rye. Husk’s fur and feathers both stood on end, and he flipped Alastor off on the way to get him a refill. Angel mouthed an apology, which earned him a middle finger as well – but one that had less venom to it than the one Husk had given his boss.
“I suppose the difference lies in who’s doing the touching,” Alastor said, drawing Angel’s attention back to him.
For a moment, the Alastor looked… contemplative. That was the word. Not ‘mischievous’ or ‘vengeful.’ Not like he was plotting the downfall of Lucifer or imagining tearing apart Sinners with his teeth or whatever the fuck Alastor normally thought about that gave his resting face that inherent creep factor.
It reminded Angel of what Mimzy had said. He wouldn’t exactly call Alastor a kitten, but like this, the fucking Radio Demon seemed almost human.
“You were right about Niffty and Mimzy,” Alastor admitted. “They, along with Rosie, are very much exceptions to the rule. But the thought of anyone else touching me makes my skin crawl.”
Angel knew the feeling. It wasn’t one he had 24/7 the way Alastor seemed to, but when it hit, it hit hard.
“It doesn’t affect me if I’m the one doing the touching,” Alastor said, staring into the glass Husk had wordlessly refilled. “In fact, I think it helps… It helps to be in control of things.”
“And you get that control by pushin’ everybody else’s boundaries about touch.” Angel took a drink. “Do you ever think about how that makes them feel?” he asked.
Alastor laughed. And not a showman’s laugh or an awkward chuckle either; full-force, uproarious laughter. Like it was the funniest shit he’d heard in years.
Alastor placed a hand on Angel’s shoulder. “My dear, empathy is not an affliction I suffer from.”
“So you’re a hypocrite,” Angel said without thinking.
Three things happened in such quick succession that it took Angel getting sobered up the next morning to finally puzzle out the order of events.
One: Alastor let his hand drop from Angel’s shoulder.
Two: Husk vaulted over the bar with speed Angel hadn’t known he was capable of and wedged himself in between Alastor and Angel, wings flared in a protective stance.
Three: Alastor started laughing again.
That third thing threw both Husk and Angel for a loop.
“Calm down, Husker!” Alastor said, half breathless with laughter. “He’s right!”
“I’m right?” Angel echoed. Because, yeah, he was. But insulting an Overlord to his face was a stupid thing to do regardless of how accurate said insult was. If he’d said that to Valentino…
“Oh, don’t give in, now!” Alastor said. His radio tinned voice was a welcome interruption to a train of thought Angel really didn’t want to go down tonight. “You were onto something there!”
“Rules for thee, not for me, as they say!” Alastor threw his head back with enough force to break his own neck and fell into a fit of laughter once again.
Angel froze, barely breathing as his mind went a mile a minute trying to make sense of the absolute madness in front of him.
“Oh, stop looking at me like I’m going to bite your head off!” said Alastor, the Overlord famous for eating demons alive.
“You too, Husker.” Alastor punched Husk in the arm in a way that would probably register as playful under different circumstances. “Your attempt at playing white knight is very amusing, but we all know that if I truly wanted to harm Angel, there would be nothing you could do to stop me.”
“I’d die trying,” Husk said so softly that Angel thought he might’ve imagined it until Alastor responded.
“And you would!” Alastor agreed, far too enthusiastically. “You’d make for a delightfully tragic martyr, but there’s no need because this whole thing is hilarious!”
“It is?” Angel asked. Honestly, he didn’t feel like he was in on the joke.
“Of course it is!” Alastor insisted. “Reality has an entertainment value like no other medium! And this” – Alastor gestured to Angel and Husk – “is reality in its purest form!”
“In a drunken bout of honesty and complete disregard for the risk of a painful second death, you’ve given me insight that I never would’ve bothered to seek on my own – and you’ve done it in the funniest way imaginable!”
Angel forced a laugh. “Ya know, I gotta say, smiles, you’re givin’ off some real mixed messages on the whole ‘bitin’ my head off’ front.”
Husk huffed out what appeared to be a genuine laugh. His stance had also gotten more relaxed, and his fur and feathers were no longer puffed up.
“Yeah,” Husk said. “He does that.”
“I do!” Alastor chipped in. “And that bit is on purpose!”
Alastor downed his drink. “It’s been great chatting with you, pals!” he announced, and wrapped Angel and Husk in a disproportionate group hug.
For the first time since meeting Alastor, Angel noticed the way he pinned their arms in place so that neither of them could hug him back.
Alastor released Angel and Husk from his iron grip and immediately darted out of reach – something Angel also hadn’t taken note of before now.
“If either of you foolishly attempt to use this information against me, I’ll flay the skin from your hands, cut out your tongues, and eat your livers!” Alastor said in the same cheery tone you might use to tell a friend to enjoy their weekend plans.
And then he was gone.
“What.” Angel paused for dramatic effect. “The fuck.”
Husk – who hadn’t moved from his spot as the barrier between Angel and Alastor – took a seat in the next barstool over.
Husk shook his head. “Forty-odd years of that crazy bastard holding my leash and I still don’t know what the fuck he’s talkin’ about half the damn time.”
Husk leaned over the bar and reached blindly underneath it. He came back out with a bottle of something strong, so either he found what he was looking for from memory and touch alone, or he got stupidly lucky. Knowing Husk, either seemed likely.
“So,” Angel said, fidgeting with his lower set of hands and talking with his upper ones. “Should I be worried about him changin’ his tune about this little heart-to-heart once he sobers up tomorrow?”
Husk took a swig from the bottle he’d found. “Nah,” he said. “Just stick to his hypocritical five foot rule and act like tonight never happened.”
“Ya know, I meant to ask about that too,” Angel said. “Why does he call it the ‘five foot rule’ if he barely ever enforces the distance part? Why not the ‘hands off rule’ or the ‘no touch rule’?”
“Legs, I just told you I don’t always know what’s goin’ on in that fucked up head of his.”
“Aww,” Angel cooed. “Has the wise old bartender finally met his match?”
Husk scoffed. “I know more about Alastor than I ever wanted to. And it’s still just the tip” – Angel snickered at the phrasing. Husk rolled his eyes before reiterating – “the tip of the iceberg.”
“Honestly, I don’t know if he even knows what’s goin’ on in his own head sometimes,” Husk said quietly. “Until tonight, I thought he liked it better that way.”
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Alastor made his way back to his room the old fashioned way – by physically walking there – humming along to a jaunty tune he’d plucked from the airwaves.
He’d learned something about himself! What an interesting turn of events!
You learn something new every day, but after over a century of combined life and Afterlife, Alastor had begun to believe he knew all there was to know about himself.
And this particular insight came with the added benefit of a rather dramatic reveal! Husker – the old has-been – could still put on a show when given the right motivation, and Angel Dust had been a wonderful wildcard to add into the mix!
Alastor wondered if he should examine the information they’d brought to light any further. If he should be asking questions about why he felt so comfortable in his hypocrisy. Why he both craved and despised touch. Why he was more than willing to put others’ comfort aside in order to maintain his own.
But the very existence of those questions brought an itch under his skin. That same crawling feeling that struck him when he felt someone else’s hands on him, like maggots wriggling inside a corpse.
Alastor melted into the shadows, the lack of physical form easing the feeling somewhat.
No, he decided. I think that’s quite enough self-discovery for one day.
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thearoaceshark · 9 months ago
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"But aro/ace people still can date" THAT IS NOT A VALID EXCUSE, MUCH LESS IF THE CHARACTER SHOWS REPULSION TOWARDS THAT TYPE OF RELATIONSHIPS.
"But the creator said we could ship him with whoever we wanted, it won't be canon anyway" OF COURSE SHE DOESN'T BOTHER THAT YOU SHIP HIM BECAUSE 1: IT BENEFITS HER BECAUSE IT ATTRACTS SHIPS FANS. AND 2: SHE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
"We have not deleted the representation, it is still there, it is canon in the show. We just want to have fun, the things the fandom does do not have to be faithful to the canon and do not affect the canon" SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN. IN THE FANDOM THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM THE AROACE SPECTRUM AND IT ANNOYS US THAT WE CAN'T ENJOY A CHARACTER THAT REPRESENTS US JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN ENJOY THE CHARACTERS WITHOUT SHIPING THEM. ALSO IF YOU CAN'T WRITE CHARACTERS OR RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE NOT ROMANTIC/SEXUAL OR THAT ARE NOT FAITHFUL TO THE CANON THEN LET ME TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE A VERY CLOSED MIND AND YOU'RE LACK OF IMAGINATION. THERE ARE ALSO MANY CHARACTERS THAT ARE NOT AROACE THAT YOU CAN SHIP, WHY DO YOU CHOOSE THE ONE WHO IS AROACE?!! US AROACE PEOPLA ALSO WANT TO HAVE FUN, WE ARE ALSO IN THE FANDOM, AND WE ENTERED THE FANDOM EXPECTING TO SEE THAT THEY RESPECT THE ORIENTATION OF THE CHARACTER AND REFLECT OUR OWN EXPERIENCES IN HIM, BUT WE FIND OUT THAT THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT, AND WE FEEL BAD WHEN SEEING THAT YK. IT'S THE SAME SHIT AS MAKING A GAY CHARACTER STRIGHT.
"I'm dating someone who is ace/I'm on the aroace spectrum/I'm ace/my partner is on the aroace spectrum and in my opinion there's nothing wrong with shipping him" ...REALLY? JUST. REALLY?! LOOK AT ME IN THE EYES AND TELL ME YOU'RE NOT A TROLL, BECAUSE SERIOUSLY. FOR THE ARO/ACE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING THESE COMMENTS LET ME TELL YOU THAT YOU LOOK LIKE THOSE HOMOPHOBIC GAY WHO INSULT THEIR OWN COMMUNITY FOR THE APPROVAL OF STRAIGHT PEOPLE.
"If they want representation so much, why don't they make their own content and their own shows with Aroace characters?" ...YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS EITHER. YOU ARE A TROLL, RIGHT? AND IF YOU'RE SERIOUS... DO YOU THINK IT'S THAT EASY TO MAKE CONTENT (BOOK/COMIC/TV SHOW/MOVIE/ETC)???
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OH AND I FORGOT THE WORST ONE, SORRY.
"Aro/ace people can also want and be in a romantic/sexual relationship, you are erasing people from your own community just because you don't want us to ship it" ...FIRST OF ALL DO YOU THINK AROACE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOU USING THEM AS A CHEAP EXCUSE? YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE, YOU JUST CARE ABOUT YOUR DAMN SHIP, STOP USING THEM AS AN EXCUSE. AND SECOND, I THINK YOU HAVE A VERY ALTERED PERCEPTION OF REALITY, BECAUSE THE ONE WHO IS ERASING AND DISRESPECTING THE AROACE COMMUNITY IS NOT US, IT IS YOU DAMN IT.
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PEOPLE ON THE SPECTRUM GET VERY EXCITED WHEN WE SEE A CHARACTER THAT REPRESENTS US, AND I THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET ANGRY IF WHEN WE ENTER THE FANDOM WE FIND THAT PEOPLE DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE ORIENTATION OF THE CHARACTER AND SHIP HIM, AND TO GET WORSE THEY GIVE US SO BAD EXCUSES OF WHY WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS PERFECTLY FINE. LOOK, DON'T YOU THINK THAT IF AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THOSE SHIPS THEN THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG? NO? HAVE YOU NOT THOUGHT ABOUT IT? THEN YOU NEED TO CHECK YOUR HEAD TO SEE IF YOU REALLY HAVE A BRAIN!!! IT'S SEEMS YOU HAVE IT OFF BECAUSE IT IS NOT WORKING.
AND YES I'M TALKING ABOUT HAZBIN HOTEL AND ALASTOR BUT THIS ALSO HAPPENS WITH MANY OTHER AROACE CHARACTERS (UNFORTUNATELY). AND IT'S SO FRUSTRATING. DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THAT REPRESENTATION HAS TO BE JUST THE CANON OF THE SHOW? DON'T YOU THINK THAT AS A FANDOM YOU SHOULD MAKE THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE IN THE FANDOM FEEL COMFORTABLE BY RESPECTING THEIR ORIENTATION AND MAKING FANFIC AND FANARTS ETC THAT REPRESENT THE CHARACTER AND HIS IDENTITY?
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nuclearnokia · 5 months ago
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Ok in honor of pride month im gonna yap about my frustration with how aromantic characters are treated in fandoms.
People will use the excuse of “well aro people can date!! Ace people can feel sexual attraction!!” And yes while this is true & very valid as aro/ace, it’s still very easily taking away representation to ship these characters in those ways if said character is actively against romance/sex.
I am so tired of seeing openly confirmed aromantic and asexual characters being shipped with the rest of the cast so much. Same thing with asexual characters being put in sexual fanfics/art. “Aromantic people can date” ok but the character is uninterested in romance. “Asexual people can feel sexual attraction” ok but the character is repulsed by sex. A big example I’d give is Alastor from Hazbin Hotel. The amount of sexual content specifically I see of him actually disgusts me.
Let us have our representation and leave it alone. There are plenty of other characters in the cast. Plenty of other options. You don’t need the (usually) ONE CHARACTER that’s aro/ace.
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rat-rambles · 7 months ago
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Ok Alastor shippers of all sorts, I'm going to put in my two cents and before I get into I'm a pro shipper all around just don't be mean to each other and tags are there for a reason.
My credentials: I'm an gray ace, aro person who's been around Fandom a very long time. Personally I've been initiated with the “but al is ace aro so you can't ship him” discourse and first off that's not true both because we can date -I Have a long term Partner- and because I've explored a lot of my queer identity through Fandom and fanfics and I think others should get the chance to do the same. I'm sure a lot of people will learn they’re ace aro because of alastor. That being said ik a lot of you writers out there aren't ace aro and are new to the topic so I'm going to go over some of my personal suggestions of how you could make Canon compliant works. (And if you do any or find any please send to me I'd love to see it)
Oblivious Alastor
Canonically this man doesn't know he's an ace in the hole. And I don't believe an egomaniac like him would assume that there's anything “different” about himself. ik when I was a baby ace I thought everyone was just being dramatic basically before realizing I was the exception. I can see this going 2 ways.
Radiostatic (pre show): vox is obviously completely smitten with al and al sees dating a more powerful overlord as an advantage(which vox in the past was the more powerful of the two). And Al starts getting slowly more and more uncomfortable and vox gets pushy in a very manipulative way.
Radioapple: enemies to friends to lovers? After Al and Luci become close friends, Luci starts to catch feelings for Al and Al agrees to date him seeing as he is fond of him and he's a very powerful ally so why wouldn't Al date him? As the relationship progresses they’re both confused by Alastor's behavior. Luci tries to be respectful. You know maybe he's just very against pda. And al doesnt understand why he's not feeling the things he's meant to.
I can see Al reverse heteronormativity- ing his way into assuming he's gay because he's NOT straight.
Malicious intent
Same as the last one except Al knows he doesn't have feelings for them like that and is trying to be toxic and uses them. IE what if Al was a gold digger actually.
Maybe I am in love?
Al actually thinks that he MUST be feeling a romantic connection because this is the closest he's ever been to someone and once again, gets steadily more confused as he realizes what he and his partner are experiencing is different.
All of these can end in nice queer platonic bliss and I think any story where Al and his partner discover he's ace after establishing the relationship is inherently interesting.
Last note some ace vocabulary
Ace and aro are a spectrum. Typically with ace people they will self identify as either sex positive, sex negative, or sex neutral. With Al it's generally head cannoned that he's sex negative but that's not explicitly Cannon and sex positive and neutral aces are valid.
Sex negative: is self explanatory it's what everyone thinks aces are; I don't want sex ever the idea grosses me out ect.
Sex neutral: is when someone doesn't have the desire for sex but isn't repulsed by it either. If they are in a relationship and their partner wants to have sex they’re open to it but don't expect initiation on their part.
Sex positive: people have a hard time understanding this because it's the seperating of the need for sex from the want. Typically if a sex positive ace were to never have sex again they'd die happy but if they have a willing partner they are happy to participate. It builds intimacy. It feels good, it's nice but it's not the same as being allo and having that cardinal lust.
note: please know what type your head cannoning Al as in your works when writing it, although people of course can change which they feel they align with, it's important to know how he's feeling about it.
I'm not as familiar with aro terminology but like with ace it's more about the drive the need the anguish. Al wouldn’t in cannon crave romantic connection.
Like with ace it's not actually cannon what type of aro he is some aro people are completely repulsed by the idea of romantic relationships or they only like it in theory (which playing around with the idea of Al liking a relationship in theory but not in practice could be a lot of fun.)
The gray romantic umbrella are aro people who can have romantic attraction to some degree. They’re still aro you can head cannon Al as it but please do a little research into which one you think your version of Al would identify with there quite a few so I'll spare the list here.
Demi romantic is when someone can develop romantic attraction for very specific people, very rarely. These people won't be on Bumble but might fall for someone after knowing them for a few years (or an indeterminate amount of time, my timeline was a year and a half I shit you not) a lot of you are looking for that.
As for kink. Lots of queer people especially are into kink because it's intimate, it's physical, it requires trust but it's not actually inherently sexual a lot of the time. And we do know that Al likes torturing and being dominant so yeah he'd be kinky that's completely canon compliant.
At the end of the day Al is ace aro in the show and that's what counts. Have fun be creative, explore the depths of your queer little minds and please be nice to each other.
(and if any of you make works related to this please please please send them to me thanks)
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allastoredeer · 6 months ago
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Sorry for asking but do you happen to have any bottom Alastor radioapple fics to suggest? I can’t find any 😭
Don't be sorry! I haven't been reading a ton of fics recently, but I can definitely send you the ones I have! Now that I have a functioning phone, I can do more fanfic reading and, believe me, I have a TON of bottom!Alastor fics saved. Maybe I'll do a weekly fic round-up and post some of the fics I've read that are just 😩👌
But as for the ones that I do have:
(NOTE: Remember to check all of the tags yourself, some of these are more explicit and darker than others)
Hounded by Syntaxeme
Basically, it's Halloween in Hell and Alastor uses his magic to summon a few monsters to cause a little mischief, but accidentally summons Hellhounds instead. Horny Hellhounds. Smut ensues.
It's doesn't have any of your typical Hazbin ships, but it was based off of an audio-Halloween thing someone made a few years back. The fic has the link to that in their notes as well, if you want to give that a listen to.
Decadent Agony by Echowraith
Alastor thinks Vox is going to try and slip him a love/lust potion, and in the case that he succeeds, Alastor doesn't want his virginity taken by him. So, in an effort to control the situation, he asks Husk to take his virginity instead.
These two have such a messy and complicated relationship, and I LOVE it. Very much enjoyed this fic and how it handled Alastor's aro-aceness.
With a Coffee and a Caress by winterveritas
4 times Lucifer touches Alastor, and 1 time Alastor touches him back. God, I love this fic SO much. The writing, the characterization, the build-up, the smut, it's all so, SO good. It's definitely one of my favorites at the moment. Also, we get some fantastic scenes with Alastor's shadow interacting with Lucifer :3
Together in My Pocket by Keelywolfe
Lucifer fucks Alastor in his big King-of-Hell demon form O.O nuff' said.
A Poison for Lust by MatcHoMetriC
Zestial is curious about how potent and dangerous the Vee's new love potion is, and asks Alastor to help him out. Such a fucking treat considering how little Alastor/Zestial content there is out there 😩
601 by ChildishSadism
Vox possesses a priest and Alastor possesses a nun. What else need I say?
A Failure of Business Negotiations by Drowsy_Salamander
Alastor is curious about what the big hype is about sex and enlists Vox to help him out, but, of course, things get sad and complicated >:3 the smut is more implied than explicit, but I still really enjoyed it and Alastor's aro-aceness and his thoughts on sex.
Unhealthy Attachments by KeelyWolfe
Lucifer wonders what Alastor gets out of having sex with him, but the answer he gets is...well, I guess that's for you to read and find out 😈
To Never Let You Go by Anonymous
Dark fic about a darker, more sinister Lucifer baby-trapping Alastor.
And, of course
Lucifer and His Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Relationship by Keelywolfe (Keelywolfe shows up quite a bit in this list LOL)
This isn't so much a single fic as it is a series. But it's got some fantastic scenes, really funny moments, and AMAZING smut. Love their bottom!Alastor stuff and I've really been enjoying the progression of the series as I've been catching up. Some really good food right here.
Annnd, that's all I got at the moment. But, hey, asks me again in a week and I might have more ;) Enjoy these in the meantime!!
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