#are horribly misogynistic and transphobic

[agirlking]

The thing that frustrates me so much about the readings of TLOU is how people push their own morality and feelings on it and decide that is what the story was saying and what Joel was thinking or feeling canonically. "Humanity isn't worth saving if it's at the cost of a kid's life" "The cure wouldn't work with what they're describing because scientifically it wouldn't work" etc etc. Joel didn't stop and think about grand morality about saving humanity or not before he did it, he thought of his own feelings about his daughter. 

And fiction uses inaccurate science all the time and it's taken at face value as being canon, so to speak. The game said the cure would work, and even if not, Joel had no scientific knowledge. He never once says anything about it not working, or asking or implying he thought it wouldn't. Joel's motives were selfish, it's not some commentary on the morality of killing Ellie to make a cure.

People thought that because it made them feel better about a sad ending, to not have to question if what Joel did was right or totally wrong. I completely understand Joel's actions, I'm not arguing that. I'm just so frustrated how people see the final shot of the game being Ellie looking heartbroken over her trust being utterly betrayed because deep down she KNOWS he was lying, and they go 'woo hoo happy found family ending! Joel is a hero!' and then attack the second game which I honestly really really love.

[milfbro]

This episode of house was incredible. Weird symptoms, no one puked blood, no lombar punction. Cameron anally torturing a patient on purpose. Lesbian couple. The bubonic plague. The tension in this episode was that the sick lesbian was planning to dump her gf but was waiting until after she took half her liver in a transplant to tell her. And then it was all tragic, the healthy gf thinking they're gonna grow old together but actually she was gonna get dumped.

BUT UH-OH PLOT TWIST! She knew she was gonna get dumped but donated the liver so her girlfriend can never leave her out of guilt. 10/10. Best episode so far

[manie-sans-delire-x]

TRAs havent accomplished a lot but what they have really succeeded at is making enemies out of people who were at least partially "on their side" (and many who still are despite all the abuse because theyre good people.)

Whats a great way to create more enemies? Repeatedly tell someone that they are your enemy.

[littlebitfurtheron]

for anyone wondering why there's a women's league of chess in the first place considering it is a purely intellectual game, women are actually completely allowed to play in the regular league, it's just that little to none of them do because when they do so they get horrifically targeted and harassed by a vocal part of the chess community.

[althaeaofficinalis]

I do not fit into Harvest Moon or Animal Crossing.

The story of my life is not digestible and easy, like Flying Witch or whatever slice-of-life queernorm story is lauded today. I am not "beyond" everything, I am not a shy person with long-ago issues, everything will not be simple and sunny for me for all days forever. And I am fine with the reality of that.

Pretending that's not an indulgent fantasy, the way I see people do, is silly beyond belief.

You're not morally righteous for preferring soft stories. You're just another person who prefers not to see what some of us live through. And that's fine, if that's the fiction you consume; it is a preference, as many things are, built on you and your life experiences and your tolerances. I certainly can't say I don't sometimes indulge.

But coming up with reasons to turn your nose up at fiction dealing with trauma and trauma recovery, especially when it's messy, that validate your self-righteousness is fucking lying. You're not "more feminist" because you refuse to look at a story working through the messy sordid reality of misogyny. You're not better for this. And the minute you think you are, you have become yet another person making a face at my life, saying, "I'm done talking about this, I don't like it," at what is supposed to be my friends helping me grieve.

[communistkenobi]

if we want to talk about where trans men tend to be overrepresented in transphobic discourse, it’s in relation to scaremongering media profiles of detransitioners, framing trans men as misunderstood women with internalised misogyny who have mutilated our bodies and are now left ‘ruined’ because of HRT and surgery. This is used to argue for policies that restrict access to trans healthcare, especially for minors (notice how often we are talked about as “young girls”!) putting a ‘sympathetic’ face to transgender hysteria by talking about the “victims” of transgenderism. But this is still an incomplete picture without accounting for transmisogyny, as trans women are the “perpetrators” of this victimisation, convincing “confused young women” to cut off their breasts and take testosterone. It centres around the ‘corruption’ of femininity, as trans men forsake our ‘natural’ femaleness and trans women as ‘appropriating’ it.

This is why Matt Walsh, JKR, and other prominent transphobic figures asks the question “what is a woman?” and not “what is a man?”, it’s why Posie Parker advocates for armed cis men to go into women’s bathrooms to “protect women from men invading women’s spaces,” its why terfs are so fixated on trans women as ur-misogynists, it’s why right wing politicians like Pierre Poilievre & the Conservative Party of Canada focus their ire on blocking trans women from public spaces.

Saying this is not a denial of trans men as victims of transphobia (hello! I am a frequent one!) and its endlessly frustrating that these conversations get derailed into “well what about MY experience where XYZ horrible thing happened to me” as if the conversation about transphobia should only ever remain in the realm of interpersonal violence and victimisation. It’s very handy to stay in that arena because the only rebuttal to that tactic is to deny this random person’s experiences or “ignore their lived reality.” But I’m not talking about experience! Transphobia is a structural force in the world which means we don’t actually need to rely on individual accounts of violence to understand it. taking stock of that structure is only a “threat” to “trans masc voices” if you think structural discussions of oppression are de facto “misandrist”

[millaniumcat]

"But we need to separate the art from the artist..."

NO. STOP.

"Separating the art from the artist" and "death of the author" does not mean what most people think it means, and i am so sick of people using this as an excuse for an artists horrible behaviour. Yes, i am looking at you, J.K Rowling and Till Lindemann (and so many more.)

"Death of the author" is a LITERARY THEORY that argues that the meaning of a piece of art is determined by the readers interpretation, not the authors intention. It is a TOOL used by LITERARY STUDIES to determine the meaning of a piece of art.

It is not a good argument in an everyday discussion about problematic authors. And it is certainly not an excuse for people to keep supporting artists (and art!) that are queerphobic, transphobic, anti-feminisitc, antisemitic and misogynistic.

And no, "separation of artist and art" is not a reason to ignore the problematic views of the author that are INHERENTLY INCOPORATED in the art.

DO NOT EVER use "death of the author" or "separate art from artist" as an excuse. It is not.

[mr-ribbit]

this isn't meant to soften or reduce the objective transmisogyny + additional hate action going into this, but since the people running these harassment campaigns are acting like they're literal baby children who need their hands held to understand anything, maybe this needs to be said:

what you're doing and how you treat trans women on this website is fucking MEAN. if you want to sit there and honestly convince yourself that you're *not* a transmisogynist or a transphobe or a misogynist or any other type of bigot - like if you genuinely believe that and are confused why people are calling you these things - then maybe we need to start from little primary colored building blocks and tell you that you're being fucking mean and rude and actively harmful to real people who read the things you say. im not sure why we need to start off with "trans women have feelings" - just kidding I know exactly why we need to - but maybe you don't.

no matter who you're talking to, do you honestly think accusing someone you do not know of being a pedophile, en masse, behind their back /and/ in a public forum, is a reasonable way to treat someone for making a tumblr post about video games or political opinions? even if you strongly disagree with the post, you think someone deserves to be treated like that by people they don't know? take a second please and sincerely imagine how that would feel. wouldn't it be scary? wouldn't you wonder who the people were who thought this about you - if they're people you know - if they're just a few people that will continue saying mean things to you forever or if there are thousands of people who choose to dedicate their time and energy specifically to making you feel bad? if you accidentally write a post in the wrong tone or unknowingly interact with a shitty person, that there are uncountable people that will keep track of that just to hurt you later? that's fucking horrifying

and to zone in on what's specifically happening here: do you think randomly accusing people of being pedophiles or sexual abusers has no effect on them? like a lot of you tend to excuse yourself in these discussions by saying "I didn't actually see the context of what they were saying" or "I didn't see that they apologized already" or "I didn't actually understand the post was a joke" or whatever other kneejerk response to make sure *you* aren't seen as a bad person. do you realize that makes you look even meaner? you didn't bother to actually follow up on a thought you had about someone before sending them hateful messages or making public accusations about them? those actions are harmful whether or not you like the victim at the end of the day.

believe it or not some people you send this shit to are survivors of abuse themselves, or have their own historical personal reasons to be weighing in on a touchy subject. when you baselessly decide it's ok to call someone an abuser of any type, that person is probably *also* disgusted by whatever horrible shit you're accusing them of. as someone that hates these things as much as you do in order to attack someone for them: what do you think it's like to have complete strangers think that about you? how many eggshells would you walk on if random people thought so little of you that they were ok doing this?

it's mean. it's heinous, cruel bullying, and if you genuinely think you are not doing it from a place of transmisogyny or hatefuk bias over the victims' identity, then you need to understand that that's not an excuse. "i didn't even know she was trans" ok, it was still mean to call her a pedophile with 200 of your closest friends in public. "im trans so it can't be transphobia" ok it was still mean to assume someone was endorsing abuse when they were talking about being accused of abuse. "i didn't see the post where she said it was a joke" ok it was still mean to actively harass someone without bothering to look into the full context.

at the end of the day, yes, obviously I still think you're all transmisogynist assholes who are clearly willing to gang up on a woman who has nothing to do with your problems simply because she dared to speak on them. i think you're bigoted and unwilling to examine that if it means giving up your vitriol against someone who doesn't like your favorite video game or whatever excuse of the week. but like even if you were just doing it for love of the hate game, it's fucking weird heinous shit and i hope you're happy having that be a central part of your life

to be clear: im not transfemme and if I'm overstepping or talking over anyone please let me know. im not speaking for anyone's actual experiences except my own, which is the experience of being angry at how much literal bullying and harassment I see excused on this so-called progressive queer blogging website

[junkiepunkie]

people who get mad that marauders fans aren’t listening to canon are fucking idiots btw.

like gee, I’m sorry I wasn’t listening to a racist transphobic misogynist who named her black character Kingsley Shacklebolt, made her Irish character blow everything up and have an alcohol problem aged eleven, used werewolves as a metaphor for aids and promptly made one of two major werewolves a villainous maniac (Greyback), called her Chinese character Cho Chang (WHICH IS TWO SURNAMES BY THE WAY), and decided to have her one canonically gay couple be in an unhealthy abusive relationship. I’m real sorry I don’t abide by her storylines.

“In the books all death eaters were evil-“

yeah, and James was a bully, and Draco was a horrible person, and Sirius and Remus both also bullied Snape!! I don’t see you groaning when people say James was a good person. Also… I cannot overstate the fact that if you’re using the argument that Regulus was a bad person cause he was a death eater allow me to remind you that he BETRAYED THE DEATHEATERS!!!!

HE WAS LITERALLY THE FIRST TO TRY AND KILL VOLDEMORT BY DESTROYING A HORCRUX!!!!

that makes him one of the good guys!!! Snape was a death eater I don’t see anyone pulling this “he’s a villain!!” Shit on him.

[the-owl-tree]

every time i see a younger fan wish they were part of the earlier fandom i think about how horribly homophobic and transphobic early 2010s fandom was and how insanely misogynistic the 2015-2018 era got. it's always sucked, but it's also improved. fandom is like ouroboros.

[youngpettyqueen]

the thing everybody and I mean everybody needs to understand is that you cant succumb to bigotry and dehumanization even when youre dealing with the worst, most terrible people. you cant. you cant let yourself be convinced that anybody "deserves" it. you can criticize and even hate people without throwing bigotry and dehumanization around. and you need to. you need to. I am not saying you need to defend horrible people because god im not but I am saying you need to be aware of when youre spouting bigotry and dehumanizing rhetoric and you need to be critical of yourself, and of others, because you could be the most left-leaning person around but you are not immune to being a misogynist, a racist, a homophobe, a transphobe, an ableist, any kind of bigot just so you can throw insults and feel like the bigger person

[aretheyqueer]

always kills me to see the victim complexes that transphobes have

if I dare talk about transandrophobia again... this is part of it. trans men are discriminated against for being trans men specifically. in order to understand it fully, you have to actually read a few scientific articles about gender incongruence, but since these people don't know what that is, they resort to calling every trans man and nonbinary afab person misogynistic and narcissistic.

like I promise you that your friend doesn't identify as nonbinary because they hate you specifically and think women are horrible etc etc. stop thinking of yourself as a victim in every single situation. you won't die. your transmasc friend isn't going to destroy feminism. he just has a condition/whatever-you-wanna-call-it that makes him inherently uncomfortable with being viewed as a woman.

imagine telling someone you're a trans man and they immediately go "OH SO YOU HATE WOMEN? YOU WANT ME TO DIE? YOU THINK YOU'RE SO SPECIAL? FUCKING NARCISSIST." like jesus christ calm down

[spot-the-antisemitism]

Cool Bug Fact: Jewish people (And people from any marginalized group) can rape, they can abuse power, they can be misogynists, they can be pedophiles, they can be racists, they can be transphobes, they can be and do all sorts of horrible things like any other human being. Horrible people can and do come from anywhere, saying otherwise and suggesting that marginalized people can do no evil or that calling a marginalized person that did something bad is inherently bigoted puts marginalized groups in an impossible higher standard that does nothing but othering them and is counterproductive, specially when the victims can and do come from marginalized groups as well✌️ hope this helps besties! 👍

yes but when you ONLY focus on Jews or trans women or whatever when talking about rapists and pedophiles the pattern becomes clear

sorry for burning your strawman

No one is free of doing wrong like you aren't free of being a petty lying bitch for being a gentile

[katrotica]

I've changed the caption on this post, and will use it as a reminder to myself to be careful about how quickly and easily I allow people in, and give them the benefit of the doubt. It's a quality in myself that I'm honestly generally proud of—I try to give everyone a chance and be open-minded to different views and thoughts. It seems especially important nowadays. But, I also have the option, here on tumblr and in real life, to choose not to be friends with people who's take on life I fundamentally disagree with. And mansplaining, transphobic misogynists who have a very hard time with the basic mantra of "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" are not people I wanna hang around with, or have their relentlessly bitchy comments on my posts. None of this really has anything to do with Marketa Belonoha—she's a hot girl with a squirt gun minding her own business. She's the one good thing that came out of the exchange, but in the end it proved to be a cautionary tale for me to be careful of how quickly I let my guard down and befriend people who it turns out I have no interest in being friends with. FYI, guys: "I was just joking" is not a valid excuse for repeatedly saying horrible things.

[demilypyro]

Okay since this doesn't seem to want to go away here's me addressing every single "allegation" that I've heard about. I hope to have at least given a good explanation where the horrible things being said about me came from, and why I consider them either just totally not true or badly misconstrued. Some of my friends have recommended I don't say anything at all, but I've always preferred openness and honesty, so I hope that's appreciated.

I understand that some people will still dislike me even though the things being said about me are not true. That's fine. I don't need everyone to like me, but it's when I'm being consistently harassed and lied about that it interferes with my mental health and ability to work. So I'm gonna try and end things with this.

"She's racist"

From what I can tell this is about one time when I said I keep my interest in anime to myself around new people. I do this because showing you're a Huge Fucking Nerd right off the bat can make a bad impression. I could have said the same thing about Star Trek or comic books, I just happened to be talking about anime in that moment. Someone seems to have misconstrued this as me finding Japanese culture something shameful and lesser than other cultures?... Which I would call a total willful misinterpretation. The rest of this seems to stem just from being Dutch, because the Netherlands is a country that has a problem with xenophobia. This is true, but uhhh I'm mixed myself so I'm pretty well aware of that, and I obviously don't support our infamous "blackface holiday." Just because I live here doesn't mean I agree with everything this country does, be that historically or in the modern day.

"She's friends with racists/misogynists/transphobes"

The only thing I can guess this is about is when I was mutuals with a user called porko-rosso at least 5 years ago and didn't really believe it when people told me they were a bigot. I haven't interacted with this user in over 4 years but people still claim we're like best friends, which was never true in the first place, we just knew a lot of the same people. Most of the resentment from the people who repeatedly spread these rumours about me seems to have started here. So for the record: no, I am not friends with any racists, misogynists or transphobes.

"She thinks she's better than other trans women because she passes better"

This is just not true. This idea seems to pop up just whenever I post about enjoying the benefits of HRT or surgery, but most recently this was misconstrued from a post where I said being trans is about being yourself as much as possible. Since this was in response to someone saying that me trying to pass is "erasing my identity", people thought I meant trying to pass is the same as being good at being trans, which was not what I meant, but some people didn't seem to want to believe me when I clarified. My apologies for the misunderstanding I guess, but that's all it was. So no, I do not hate people who don't pass as well as I do, nor do I think all trans people should be transitioning medically, and I resent the implication.

"She has a secret discord server where she makes fun of pictures of other trans women and calls them slurs"

I had absolutely no clue what this was about when I first heard it. I was sent screenshots that supposedly prove this but all they show is me being rude about someone's appearance one time in january of 2022. I actually thought these were faked because I don't remember this happening and the things said confused me, but one of my friends says she found it was in her server, where she had showed a picture of someone and asked everyone present (mostly other trans women) if they were hot. Apparently I did not think they were hot. So yes, I did insult someone's appearance back in january 2022, but it was an isolated incident. Frankly even I find my remarks in these screenshots distasteful, I don't know what I was on when I wrote that stuff. I'm sorry to that person specifically. What I said has weighed heavily on me and I apologize for it. It's not something I approve of, and don't intend to repeat that mistake. Still, to say it means I hate trans women and I love to make fun of them in my secret discord server and call them slurs is just... a super-villain level of exaggeration. I didn't even know about the word that was named as an example. It's not true.

"She's often rude"

I can't deny this one. Autism gonna autism. I've seen many therapists, doctors, experts, what have you, to try and help me with this, but it seems my particular brand of autistic in combination with the cultural differences between mine and other countries just really often ends with my foot in my mouth when I speak English. I apologize! I have never meant to personally offend anyone. It just keeps happening and I can't stop it from happening.

If after reading all this, you still consider me bad enough to hate my guts, I can't stop you, but I wanted to have at least had my say. I swear that everything in this post is the honest truth as I understand it, and that I've never acted with purposeful malicious intent.

[my-castles-crumbling]

Heyy!!

As someone who isn’t from America..

I’m just wondering what makes Trump so horrible? I’ve seen soo much hate from our community so obviously I want Kamala to win but I just want to know why we dislike trump so much.

And I’ve seen on tik tok some people going through depression over the chance that he might become the next president and so I want to be educated by another fellow queer person so I know my facts are right and not altered to make him seem like a good guy!

Hi!

I'm going to be honest and say that I don't have a lot of mental bandwidth to talk about him in detail right now because I'm still in shock about the whole election. Please don't think it has anything to do with you, it's just...yeah.

Trump is racist, transphobic, misogynistic, zenophobic, and honestly not a good leader. He runs on a campaign of pitting people against each other and taking away rights from people. It's because of him and his bigoted rhetoric that many rights have been taken from minorities in this country, and it's disgusting that people are proud of that.

Here's a link to an article about some shit things he did while president.