#arc: search for tsunade

[every-jiraiya]

[velvet-ymarinebloo77]

[sannin-three]

In a fight, right?

In a fight, right??

[land-of-the-eddies23]

[watermelonsloth]

Things the Naruto Fandom Don’t Talk About Nearly Enough Part 5: Itachi and Kisame’s Visit to Konoha

So, there are layers to this.

At first, this just seems like a simple mission to stop by Konoha and snatch Naruto off the streets, but we learn two things about this later on that makes this very funny to me: Itachi’s actual intention was to remind Danzo that he’s still alive so he wouldn’t use Hiruzen’s absence as an opening to use Sasuke and the Akatsuki wouldn’t be in a position to extract the nine tails for another two years.

Some of you may see where this is going.

Pein wouldn’t have ordered them to get Kurama two years early, it would’ve just brought unnecessary attention to them and reveal the Akatsuki’s motives (or at least methods). So, if they aren’t following orders, why is Kisame going along with this? Did Itachi say “early bird gets the worm” and Kisame was like “fuck it, I don’t have anything better to do”?

If Kisame is under the impression they’re capturing the nine tails, why did he offer they stop for tea? Itachi wanting to waste time and risk drawing attention would make sense, but not Kisame. Right? Does Kisame make them stop for tea and dessert on missions? Does Kisame make them stop so regularly that Itachi was counting on it for his plan?

Speaking of Itachi’s plan, did he actually account for the village response to two very known criminals being in the village? Like, nothing would’ve stopped Danzo from just sending all of anbu after them. Did Itachi think he and Kisame could take all of Konoha’s shinobi force? Or maybe he thought they could get away before that became a problem?

What would Itachi have done if they did capture Naruto? He, presumably, didn’t know that Jiraiya was in Konoha and it’s not like Naruto had any bodyguards. I can’t imagine he would’ve dropped the act. Would he have just pretended to have another spike in psychopathy and shanked Kisame? Would he have tried to talk Kisame into leaving Naruto? Would they have brought him back with them?

If they brought Naruto with them, what would that conversation look like? ‘Cause Pein probably wouldn’t have let them go to Konoha, so it’s not like he’d know they were going to get Naruto in the first place. “Hey boss, we’ve got some good news and some bad news. The good news is we got that jinchuriki you wanted! We know it’s a little early, but we just couldn’t help ourselves. The bad news is all of the Land of Fire is after us.”

Last question, did the rest of the Akatsuki find out about this? If so, can we please have a novel about their reactions?

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[dutifullybitchyblaze]

[roseangel19]

There’s one moment during the “Tsunade Search” arc that puzzled me the first time I saw it; when Orochimaru had stabbed Tsunade in the chest with his Kusanagi sword.

He pulls the sword out from her, jumps back and says that she’s the one person that he wouldn’t kill. Which makes me think, “Why? What makes her the exception to all of the other people you’ve killed?”

Except a few moments later when she’s defending Naruto, he says that if she’s willing to put her life on the line for someone like him then he’d be happy to accommodate her. Which adds even more confusion than previously, he’s technically killing her by slashing her with the sword. Idk 🤷🏼‍♀️.

[stealthydemocracy369]

“You're wrong, that's not what makes a shinobi. You never did get it. A real ninja is one who endures no matter what gets thrown at him… Let me explain something to you, there is only one thing that matters if you are a shinobi, and it isn't the number of techniques you possess. All you do need, is the guts to never give up.„~ Jiraiya to Orochimaru

[every-sasuke-uchiha]

[every-jiraiya]

[sourinartt]

the naruto fandom has a deep resentment towards naruto for not accepting characters that they believe are good for him

they can't even understand the story and their hatred towards sasuke blinds them and they constantly try to ignore the fact that naruto loves his best friend for being the first to accept him

I say this because the majority who didn't like it when naruto said "sasuke accepted him more than anyone" is because they hate sasuke and they hated Naruto for not including characters like shikamaru, sakura, hinata, gaara even tsunade i've seen?

tht saying that naruto doesn't have his friends in mind is a big lie, in the gaara arc for example, his motivation is them, he starts to think about how many he appreciates for accepting him and not make him fall into darkness like gaara

He constantly has Iruka, who is like a father to him, Kakashi, who is his teacher, sakura, his friend and his special bond, Sasuke, in mind

naruto appreciates gaara and in his recovery arc he was well seen, shikamaru and hinata are appreciated by him, after all they are konoha ninjas and his friends, tsunade appears much later and at first naruto doesn't like her but he gave his life for tsunade and she was inspired and overcame her fear thanks to him

naruto appreciates his friends, but their bonds are very different from sasuke's, sasuke was there when naruto felt alone, sasuke was the first to feed him When it was a "forbidden rule", sasuke was the one who trained alongside him tirelessly, sasuke was the one who gave his life for him leaving his motivations aside, sasuke was the first to recognize it, sasuke had the same life as him making him not feel alone

and this is why sasuke is his important bond and is the one who accepted him more than anyone, because while shikamaru denigrated naruto sasuke supported him and died for him, while sakura mocked him, sasuke defended him, while hinata saw his suffering from behind a tree, sasuke accompanied him, standing by his side and while gaara was rushing to kill him, sasuke protected him despite being weak.

that's why sasuke is his important bond and the person naruto will search for until the end of the world in gratitude and he doesn't have to be thanked by fools who only saw his flaws insulting him or watching him

obviously, everyone then sees how capable and good naruto is, yes, yes, but that doesn't mean that sasuke wasn't the first to see all that

[valiant-typhoon]

Fic Idea

Probably just talking to the void but I have a Naruto AU fic idea

Mostly I have an image sorta like this in my head (ignore my shitty editing skills) [ "What a historic event...Uchiha and Senju fighting side-by-side once again," Orochimaru laughs.]

Sasuke and Kakashi wake up from Itachi's genjutsu on their own only extremely affected by it physically and emotionally. Jiraiya and Naruto are already searching for Tsunade to make her Fifth Hokage.

Basically instead of Orochimaru offering to revive Dan and Nawaki to get Tsunade to heal his arms he kidnaps Shizune instead. At the same time he wants to lure Sasuke to him so he takes Sakura, he says he'll release her when Sasuke comes to him but he knows that killing someone precious is what unlocks the ultimate sharingan so he isn't actually planning on letting her live. Shizune he genuinely plans to release.

Shizune and Sakura imprisoned together meet and bond and Shizune figures out that she must be related to Sakura somehow because 'inner' sounds a lot like her family's Spirit Transformation Technique. Or maybe Kabuto is being his mad-scientist self and discovers it for them.

Sidenote: I think it's bs that Shizune is Dan's niece but doesn't have that jutsu or something related to it? During the Pain Invasion Arc it would have been a perfect time to reveal it considering how she was killed. Woman in Naruto curse strikes again Just seems a waste of the fact that she's related to Dan and the angle that adds to her relationship with Tsunade.

Kakashi is on a mission away from the village, but gets a message from Jiraiya about what's happening and tries to intercept. Sasuke decided to accept Orochimaru's offer because in his opinion no one is trying to actually rescue Sakura she's just a civilian-born, after all Jiraiya not expecting to see Tsunade actually already on Orochimaru's side but then realizes that Shizune isn't around and he puts the pieces together.

The big confrontation becomes Orochimaru-Sasuke-Tsunade vs Jiraiya-Naruto-Kakashi. Kakashi shitting his pants because going up against two sannin even with one on your side is a suicide and he knows it. All the summons just brawling and being destructive forces of nature like their counterparts because the Sannin are a Mess (tm)

Naruto vs Sasuke because they disagree on how to save Sakura. Naruto doesn't want to lose Sasuke to Orochimaru too. He wants to save Sakura together but in Sasuke's eyes it's too late and the curse mark+ itachi's genjustsu is messing with his head + Uchiha attachment issues Curse of Love.

Tsunade who is willing to do anything to protect Shizune. Both Orochimaru and Jiraiya understand what that means. Blood-phobia still a factor but it doesn't freeze her, not with Shizune's life on the line. This is her curse, Shizune will die because Tsunade loves her, that's how her luck works. She is ~Traumatized~ and will burn the village before giving up Shizune's life, regardless of what Shizune herself would think of that.

Meanwhile Shizune and Sakura manage to break out but have to deal with Kabuto+ whatever other sound nin so they have their own battle going on.

Everything comes together with Cursemark!Sasuke and KyuubiChakra!Naruto going at each other with the rasengan and chidori and Sakura throwing herself in the middle because it's like they're trying to make Kakashi relive the worst moment of his life but now it's worse and happening again.

Anyone interested in reading this type of fic or nah?

[land-of-the-eddies23]

Against Kabuto and/or Orochimaru.

[awinterrosesstuff]

I've seen people comparing it to Karin's sensing technique, but honestly it looks more like one of the byakugan's capabilities. She doesn't sense chakra there. She uses her chakra to "see" (sense ?) what there's behind the wall (a spiral staircase) and I'm sorry but that's ridiculous.

Apparently, she is a sonar now in Sasuke Retsuden.

Yeah, first, in itself the technique isn't ridiculous. It's explained (not particularly well but okay). She sends chakra in a surface and can detect objects and traps. There's she sees the spiral staircase in her mind. She's basically scanning the area like Neji and Hinata would with the byakugan. The light novel doesn't explain much, except that thanks to her "excellent chakra control" she can send the chakra into the wall and see the structure her chakra touches.

Now... why I find this ridiculous.

First, it comes from nowhere in the story itself. They were talking about Tsunade. She just happens to touch the wall and then she senses something. She wasn't searching for a secret or something. It's just an "accident". Then she does it and never uses it again. That's it.

Plus Sakura being a sensor was never pointed in the Naruto manga or Gaiden. I mean being able to sense the chakra of Kurama or Madara is nothing special. When Naruto uses Kurama's chakra during the war arc, everyone from team Taka is able to sense it. And they were near Konoha. Orochimaru precisely notes that nobody from the team is a sensor. And he's even able to say it's Naruto. So yes, Sakura isn't a sensor because she can sense Madara's chakra or Kurama's chakra when Naruto attacks Orochimaru (in the second arc of the second part, wow !) contrary to some claims I've seen by her fans.

Then it doesn't make sense with her character. Why did she create that technique specifically ? Sakura is a medic kunoichi. She isn't a tracker like Hinata, Shino or Kiba for instance. She was never in a team for infiltration (ironic when you take into consideration that story) like Ino for example. Team 7 was most likely destined for combat when you look at Naruto and Sasuke. And... there's two sensors in the team. Sasuke with his sharingan can see chakra and Naruto can sense chakra and negative emotions. So why would Sakura think of creating that technique ? Doesn't make sense. Especially to detect objects.

Another question... why did the author give her that technique in the first place but thougth having her almost dying from poison was logical for her character ? I mean, Sakura is Tsunade's student, the best doctor in the world. It would make more sense for Sakura to be immune to poison than that. And while she can map an area, she can't sense danger anymore apparently.

It's just right there people...

What happened to the girl who was trained to anticipate and avoid dangers ? She's a fucking medical ninja. She was trained by Tsunade in taijutsu for that. She's supposed to have better evasion skills than the majority. The girl was able to fight alongside Chiyo against Sasori (who is far more dangerous and powerful than this Jiji).

And she ends crying for Sasuke because she can't heal herself. She can move, but can't activate her ultimate technique. Okay...

So like I said... in itself, the technique isn't ridiculous. Maybe if the story was better, I would find it acceptable. But in the context of Sasuke retsuden, it's just weird and superfluous. You want a joke ?

Sasuke doesn't only go to rescue her, but also heal her...

Probably, the author wanted Sakura to be some kind of damsel in distress. But it's one of the only situations that trope doesn't work for her. Kinda sad to write such a story for it that have so many plotholes.

That's the story Sasusaku's fans claim to be canon ? No thanks...

[ddrqoyote]

search for tsunade arc: tsunade is an addict. orochimaru is consumed by obsession. jiraiya is a sex offender. all three legends have lost themselves. but while orochimaru refused to be reached, naruto influences tsunade (through bravery) and jiraiya (through making him feel fatherly) and they start to turn back towards other people and rebuild their reputations.

shippuden: tsunade is hokage. orochimaru is still consumed by obsession because he won't listen to anyone, but he's a villain so it makes sense. jiraiya is... still a sex offender. but his reputation is rebuilt. everyone respects him and sees him as a hero, even foreigners. he's still a sex offender. but that's just a little thing.

[confront-ation]

Naruto Live Spectacle (and Road of Naruto)

The first two parts of Naruto Live Spectacle run for two hours. The first one retells the first part of the manga, and the parts that do not directly relate to the main storyline (Naruto and Sasuke) are cut out. There are completely no Chunin exams arc and Tsunade search arc. But the Land of Waves arc is shown quite fully there, with all the necessary dialogues about the "most precious" and love and power. Clearly, the priority is on themes and content, rather than battles and events. Next comes the battle with Gaara (which also contains dialogues about love from Yashamaru) and VOTE1. This is probably the best option for adapting the first part in two hours.

The situation is similar with the second part, which adapts the first four arcs of Shippuden. There's nothing that doesn't include Sasuke. There is no Kazekage rescue arc and Team 8's battle against Akatsuki (but there is the creation of a Rasenshuriken). But all the quarrels between Naruto and Sai about Sasuke are included, lol. Priorities here...

This is a kind of Sasuke Shippuden tbh, his arc with Itachi is central here. It's obvious that the director is a Sasuke fan.

Some scenes legally look like a Romeo and Juliet production.

I immediately remembered the PV "Road of Naruto", which also briefly retells Naruto. Everything there consists of battles and there is almost nothing beyond them in general. And there is a very strange prioritization. Chunin exams take the most time (1:55 minutes out of 9:30) there. The Fourth Shinobi World War is mainly shown in a slide show. The battle against Madara at the end lasts 4 seconds, like???

But the funniest thing there is the Kage Summit arc. It SCREAMS that the director hates Sasuke because... Well, first there are intentionally several seconds about how Gokage kicks Sasuke's ass, and not the other way around, and then the emphasis is on all his "terrible crimes" in this arc. In particular, the attack on Sakura, who attacked him first, lol. This is the most disgusting summary you can think of.

I just like the comparison of these two summary. They have a different format, but that's not even the main difference. They focus on different things and it is obvious from them how their creators see "Naruto" as a whole.