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Listen I'm a bit of a hater and I do have some reservations with the concept surrounding conformation and animal fancy as an institution but horses are one of the LAST animals you can really criticize for their conformation standards and just calling it eugenics. Unlike most dog breed standards, horse conformation is more predicated on their ability to function and perform work, or to carry a wholeass person on their backs so it's really important they got good structure!!! Sure there's halter horses bred purely for show and that's where you start getting the wonky dish faced Arabians and BBL quarter horses but unlike pugs the vast majority of horse breed standards do in fact keep the horse's best interests in mind.
#again my gripe is when conformation is valued ABOVE health and that isn't the case for horses#and utility livestock standards are like the opposite of dog fancy#they want hardy animals that stay healthy until slaughter and are very stringent about inbreeding numbers#well livestock mammals that is we dont talk about poultry#all my homies hate commercial poultry breeding
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there's this couple living in my neighbourhood and they get a "new" dog every 2-ish years. when we moved here a little less than 5 yrs ago they had a pyrenaen mountain dog that was maybe 2 yrs old (and kinda aggressive, at least towards other dogs, bc she was not trained at all and just didnt have anything to do), then a sloughi (arabian grey hound) for a little under two years and now they have an irish wolfhound. The "old" dogs just disappear one day and then there's a new puppy. And they always go for pure bred, large dogs. And I kid you not, they have a bumper sticker on their car with a pic of the dog breed they currently have and both "changes" of dogs that we witnessed, they just took the old sticker off and put the new one on omfgggg. And I know nothing about these ppl ok, i hardly ever see them actually walking their dog (i can count the incidents on one hand) but their vibe is very weird and i just dont have an "innocent" explanation for their habit of replacing their dogs.
Just now I went for the evening walk with my dog and I walked past their garden and there was the wolfdog like 15m away and looking at us, so i stopped and showed my dog and we waited a bit and just when i thought the dog wouldnt approach he (?) very slowly walked towards the fence and very shily wagged his tail and my dog usually doesnt like other dogs at all and is pretty jealous but she was rubbing noses through the fence with him and tried to initiate playing, it almost looked like she was trying to cheer the other dog up ;-; he seems so extremely shy and uncurious/cautious for such a young dog :( He stuck his long nose through the fence and i pet him and he layed his snout into my hand and just looked at me so sadly and just begging for closeness and appreciation it almost made me cry, such a sweet little angel :( and i'm not sure but i think their dogs stay outside in a fenced area of the garden overnight, which is not unheard of, but this dog is just so sensitive and imo really needs closeness to his family. also he is really skinny (and so was the sloughi - definitely a lil more than is natural for the breed imo) and also had a tick under his jaw and ugggghhh idk i feel so bad about this and i'm for real contemplating writing them a note saying that they can call me when they want to get rid of their dog again bc i'd take him in a heartbeat. i mean who fucking knows where these dogs go to once these ppl apparently grow tired of them, i can only hope they have a nice home now :(((
#he was so trusting and shy and sad#*sobbing*#and i really wouldnt have thought that there is another dog that my own dog is so completely ok with#she wasnt even jealous when i pet him she just chewed on a twig she found lol#i want to steal the dog lets be real but the thing is i think it would be a bit obvious bc i live just down the road lmao#personal
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Once in Cairo/Egypt… great horse (pure-bred Arabian stallion I rode a lot during my work and travel over there)
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BABOLNIAN MARES Of HUNGARY AND THEIR INFLUENCE ON MODERN POLISH BREEDING
Fourteen Babolnian pure bred mares came to Poland soon after the war. Transported out of Hungary to Germany by the retreating Nazi army, similarly to the Polish horses, they found their way to the Bavarian Bergstetten. During when the Polish horses from beginning to end in their war wanderings were accompanied by the Polish sta, the caretakers of the Babolnian mares most probably abandoned them. American occupation authorities directed the mares to the Behring Plant in Marburg, where they were to be used in the production of vaccines. At the beginning of 1946 the Directorate of Polish State Studs received an o er to exchange draught horses, which the studs had at their disposal at the time, for a group of more cultural equines and decided to take the opportunity. When despite the ful llment of all conditions after a while the transaction caused a dispute, the commanding o cer of Polish Studs in Germany, lieutenant colonel Stefan Zamoyski decided on his own to successively add Babolnian mares to the transport of Polish horses, which were sent to our country by sea.
In 1947 the Babolnian mares, which received new names starting with the letter B, were already in Posadowo. Dr. Edward Skorkowski, the editor of the “Polish Arabian Stud Book” and the main organizer of the State Studs, divided them between two groups – and so four bay Kuhailan Zaid d.b. daughters went to Nowy Dwór and four grey ones to Albigowa. Five greys and one chestnut – each a daughter of a di erent stallion – enriched the herd at Klemensów.
Poles turned to Babolna requesting the pedigrees of these mares, stating their brandings. Hungarians compiled with the request, thanks to which the mares were registered in the Polish Arabian Stud Book (PASB) in 1950, but not long after began demanding back their property.
At the same time they made an offer to purchase a stallion from the Poles, which ideally suited those mares and so the Albigowa-bred Ben Hai 1948 (El Hai – Mira/Wielki Szlem) found his way to Babolna. As it turned out, however, he did not bring us much glory, as he was not used in breeding. Also the stallions used in Klemensów at the time were clearly not matched to their equine partners very well, because the majority of the Babolnian mares did not leave any breeding produce in Poland.
All of these mares descended from the five families described below. Although they returned to Babolna rather quickly, I tried to incorporate one daughter of each of them into breeding, with success. Unfortunately part of them were later eliminated.
1. DAM LINE NO. 33: ADJUZE D.B., GREY 1876 (KOHEILAN ADJUZE – SCHECHA), IMPORTED TO BABOLNA IN 1885 grey BLAGA2 1937 (Kuhailan Zaid d.b. – 11 Siglavi Bagdady II by Siglavi Bagdady II) wrote herself down in history mainly as the dam of the stallion DOKTRYNER (by Miecznik), born in Klemensów in 1950. is sire, used in Michałów (1954–1956) and in Janów Podlaski (1965–1967) had a very interesting life. Sold to Switzerland in 1957, he was re-bought years later. His son Arbor 1967, the bearing great beauty son of the valuable Arba by Comet, was sold to Monaco (1971) and had a very successful show career, becoming French Champion in 1976 and European Champion in 1978. Other Doktryner sons include Ferrum 1957 (used on a small scale in Janów Podlaski in 1962 and 1964) and the sold in 1959 to Patricia Lindsay, UK Gerwazy 1955, who was active at her stud for many years. e daughters of Doktryner, Wadera 1957 and Wieża 1966, produced stallions used in breeding to a lesser degree.
BRYŁA 1939 (Kuhailan Zaid d.b. – 24 Koheilan IV by Koheilan IV), grey, correctly conformed, the tallest of the Babolnian mares in Albigowa, can boast the establishing of her own family, active until this day. In Posadowo she produced the bay Glazura 1946 by Mersuch III, whereas in Albigowa two daughters and two sons. grey Braila (by Amurath Sahib) and BRYSSAGA (by Gabor) were bornin 1948 and 1950. latter was linebred to Kuhailan Zaid d.b., as Gabor was oneof two sons of Kuhailan Urkub (by Kuhailan Zaid d.b.) used in Poland. Before she was eliminated from breeding, she left a replacement, the bay Brawura 1957 (by Wielki Szlem), sold to the US in 1968. Today in state breeding we have her granddaughter Brandy 1996 by Penthagonn, born in Kurozwęki, who left four daughters in Janów. Brandy is currently stabled in Michałów. youngest of Brawura’s granddaughters, the born in private breeding (Agricola Farm) Bagatela 2001 by Pesal, is the dam of Bajaderka 2007 (Złocień – Bagatela/Pesal), who after a successful show career in Poland and abroad is currently taking up duties as broodmare – in 2012 she produced a promising lly by Kabsztad, the grey Baklava. In 2013 she gave another grey lly, by Shanghai EA - Brida of Shanghai, who is standing at her home stud in Poland.Bryła’s sons were Cement 1949 (by Witraż), who found his way to the Drogomyś Stallion Depot and Brytan 1951 (by El Hai ), exported to Romania in 1955.
BRUZDA 1934 (Ajeeb – 5 Koheilan IV by Koheilan IV ), herself grey also produced grey progeny: in Posadowo the stallion Gruz 1946 (by Kuhailan Zaid d.b.), while in Klemensów the stallion Brus 1948 (by Wielki Szlem), the stallion Czarnolas 1049 (by Miecznik) and the mare Brunta 1951 (by Miecznik)None of her descendants were used in breedings.A similar situation occurred in the case of the bay BAŚŃ 1937 (Kuhailan Zaid d.b. – 28 Mersuch I by Mersuch I), who in Posadowo foaled the bay Graca 1946 (by Kemir I) and in Nowy Dwór – Bajda 1948 (by Witraż). Her other progeny died.Another mare whose produce was not incorporated into breeding was BRANKA 1932 (Lartur – 14 Koheilan IV by Koheilan IV), the oldest from this dam line. In Klemensów she left a daughter – Bogdanka 1948 (by Amurath Sahib) and son – Denar 1950 (by Miecznik). From Adjuze’s dam line descends the mare Kohejlanka 1928 (Mersuch I-3 – 24 Koheilan IV by Koheilan IV), purchased to Gumniska in 1929, who gave the stallions Tajar 1934 (by Kuhailan Hai d.b.) and Wezyr 1936 (by Kuhailan Ajouz d.b.), both sold to Babolna in 1938, as well as the above mentioned Gabor 1944, used in Poland. His son and four daughters were incorporated into breeding.
2. DAM LINE NO. 34: SEMRIE D.B., GREY 1896 (BY KOHEILAN-EM-ARGUB), IMPORTED TO BABOLNA IN 1902 bay BAZA 1934 (Kuhailan Zaid d.b. – 22 Kemir by Kemir), sister of the superb stallion Kuhailan Abu Urkub 1935, imported to Gumniska in 1939 and one of the most meritorious Babolnian mares in Polish breeding, had a number of bay descendants. In Posadowo she produced Gaza 1946 (by Koheilan I), while in Nowy Dwór stallions by Wielki Szlem: Bazalt 1948 and CZARDASZ 1949. Her daughter by Wielki Szlem, DREZYNA 1950, did not give any produce incorporated into breeding. Whereas another daughter of Baza, BAJDARA 1951 by Gabor, gave the stallions Branibor 1958 (by Arcus), Bajdak 1962 (by Comet) and Baj 1965 (by Negatiw). the of them, used in Michałów (1963-1965), left three stallions and ten mares, many of which were exported. e second sired six mares in Michałów (1967–1970), part of which were exported. e third was sold in 1971 to state breeding in France. Also some of Bajdara’s ve daughters, after Bojaźń’s daughter BOJKENA 1951 (by Gabor) gave the sold to Germany Borys 1956 (by Wielki Szlem) and Bibars 1957 (by Witraż), who found his way to the US, stopping by Germany and Brazil on the way. Unfortunately, Bojkena died as early as in 1959. Other descendants of this family include: the above mentioned Kuhailan Abu Urkub 1935 and Kuhailan Said 1934, imported to Janów Podlaski in 1937 and taken away to Tersk in 1939.
3. DAM LINE NO. 35: BENT-EL-ARAB D.B., GREY 1880, IMPORTED TO BABOLNA IN 1885
BONA, grey 1937 (Kuhailan Zaid d.b. – 23 Mersuch I by Mersuch I), the smallest and most delicate of the Babolnian mares, left several produce in Albigowa, all of which were also of a slender conformation. In those times larger and more robust horses were preferred, which could’ve been the reason for only a slight usage of Bona’s descendants in breeding. In 1948 she foaled the grey Bohomaz by Amurath Sahib. Her other foals were sired by Witraż. was the very handsome black stallion COMO 1949, who was used on a small scale in Michałów (1953–1954). ere he sired the meritorious in breeding Forsycja 1954 and sons – Elear 1954 (also used in Michałów) and Fortel 1955 (out of Forta), sold in 1971 to the US, where he became famous as the sire of the “aristocratic” TW Forteyna, undefeated until this day in the US in terms of the number of champion- winning progeny. Bona’s second foal, the bay lly BONITA 1950, found her way to Rymanów (1958), but was used in breeding for only a short while. Her sister Bona Bella 1951 was not used at all.
BALIA, grey 1936 (Kuhailan Zaid d.b. – 25 Kemir by Kemir) was in turn a robust mare, but during the four years which she spent in Albigowa she produced only two foals, both by Witraż. I saw the stallion Baligród 1950 only on photographs and I must say that I liked him. After returning from the race track he was sold to Romania (1955). e born a year earlier grey CELIA was, according to director Andrzej Krzyształowicz, very similar to Bandola, in her time the most beautiful mare in Poland. Celia had four daughters out of which three were exported (two after being used in breeding).Her son was sold to the US and Celia herself was exported in 1968 to France.
4. DAM LINE NO. 36: SCHERIFA D.B. (SIGLAVI–GEHELT-EL-SCHARIF), IMPORTED IN 1902 TO BABOLNA
BULWA, grey 1937 (Kuhailan Zaid d.b. – 12 Siglavi Bagdady by Siglavi Bagdady d.b.) was small, petit and inconspicuous, but so many valuable horses descend from her today! She was well suited for Ofir sons. Her produce has a certain xed type – they were bay Kuhailans of an average size and speci c beauty. In Posadowo she foaled daughter ALGA 1947 (by Witraż), whereas in Albigowa, still bred to Witraż, she left the stallion Chmiel 1949 and the mare BULGOTKA 1951. Both of her daughters left a signi cant mark on breeding. From Alga, one of Poland’s most valuable mares, descend the following stallion: Celebes’ most valued son, Aloes 1973 (1982 Polish National Reserve Champion), Algierczyk 1977, Alkazar 1980, Aleppo 1983, Algomej 1979 (1985 Polish National Reserve Champion), as well as a number of excellent mares, including the beautiful Algonkina 1961 by Pietuszok, whose father was not very beautiful to me. Her other female descendants in subsequent generations include Algeria 1971 (1982 Polish National Champion), Alejka 1985 (1993 Polish National Champion), Albula 1984 (1994 Polish National Best in Show), Amra 2000 (2002 Polish National Best in Show). Bulgotka had less beauty than her sister Alga, but it is her who is the granddam of the valuable Probat 1975. Her daughters also marked their presence – among others the afore mentioned US National Reserve Champion Boltonka by Arax. Bulgotka’s grandson Buszmen 1968, sold to the US in 1971, gained the titles of Canadian Champion and US National Reserve Champion (1974).
BRZYTWA, grey 1932 (Mersuch I – 12 Siglavi Bagdady by Siglavi Bagdady d.b.) was bred in Klemesów to Amurath Sahib, among others. Born in 1948 out of this mating was the grey lly BRUSSA, who in turn produced ve daughters. None was incorporated into breeding, one was exported to England.
5. DAM LINE NP. 37: DELALE D.B. (KOHEILAN SHVEM – MENAGIE), IMPORTED TO BABOLNA IN 1902
In Posadowo the bay BOMBA 1935 (Kuhailan Zaid d.b. – 19 Mersuch I by Mersuch I) foaled the stallion ANARCHISTA 1947 by Wielki Szlem, who although not very handsome himself sired valuable daughters in Michałów: Czatanoga 1958 (out of Cosmosa) and Fatma 1961 (out of Forta). Later, in Nowy Dwór, Bomba foaled the stallion Desant 1950 by Wielki Szlem.What significance did the Babolnian mares have for Polish Arabian breeding? After the war there wasn’t many Polish mares around – in 1950 only 76 – that’s why every potential broodmare was valuable. Babolnian mares at the time constituted for 18% of the entire population. At the same time they were older, already selected, during when among the Polish mares there were many that were quickly eliminated from breeding. Arabian mares from Babolna brought some foreign and very needed blood into Polish breeding. Unfortunately not all of them paired will with those stallions that were on hand at the time. Yet several lines survived until this day, proving their great potential even today.
1 The total which came to Poland in that time was 16, but it later turned out that two of them were not of pure blood.
2 Names of horses given in capital letters are these which were active in Polish Arabian breeding.
Text by ROMAN PANKIEWICZ – a breeder at Albigowa Stud in the 50s, where the epochal stallion BASK (Witraż – Bałałajka/Amurath Sahib) was born. In the 60s he was employed at Michałów Stud. Author of numerous articles on the history and breeding of Arabian horses, published in Poland and abroad. His works also include books dedicated to Arabians, “Polish Arabian horse breeding 1918-1939” and “Register of Polish Arabian purebred stallions”, among others.
Text by: Roman Pankiewicz
Collaboration: Monika LuftTranslation: Joanna KrawczykPhotos: archive, Marta Baranowska, Julia Moll Painting by: Joanna Chlebowska-Krause, upon her own photo. An article from polskiearaby.com
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I'd like to raise my hand and point out that theres two lines of thought regarding horse breeds, well maybe three.
One is "holy hot shit is that an import horse? Did you sell your soul and all your sons to afford it??"
Two is "only our Pure Properly Bred horses of local descent are worthy to be ridden and not be made into glue"
Three would be "four legs, it neighs, shits, and eats me out of house and home? Horse."
I'd argue that an imported horse could be seen as a more valuable animal, but its entirely a point-of-view thing. You could have an Arabian (palfrey size, eats less, small and objectively gorgeous) sent to the papal court as a gift from visiting sultana, and the horse could be worth its weight in gold in its home country! But that all means nothing if Vasco prefers local heritage breeds.
Ps - cremellos are gorgeous, they have coats like liquid gold that flash in the sun. They also require CONSTANT CARE so, you know, big bucks. They also have gold eyes which make them fucking creepy imo. Might be worth looking into!
Hey horse people, I'd love to hear your input on something:
I think Vasco's personal/favorite horse would be a dapple grey Andalusian. My equine knowledge is embarrassinly limited, but I believe they were held in very high regard among early modern European nobility, the real fancy-pants option you could say. Does that sound like a believable choice?
Is there a significant practical difference between mares, geldings and stallions? I know stallions were favored as war and tournament horses (the term for these is destrier I believe, think of medieval knights on horseback), but if we're talking about a horse you use mostly for riding, travel and hunting (these were called palfreys), would a gelding or a mare be preferred?
And from a historical point of view, if you were a wealthy noble that didn't do much fighting, would you still own a prestigious destrier horse just for showing off? Even if a palfrey was better suited for your needs? Not that it matters, I'm just trying to piece stuff together.
I've been trying to come up with a name for Vasco's horse, any suggestions?
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i keep fuckin uh accruing more little projects so i listed all (iirc) i have loosely bu a combo of investment/priority & how high a population i have on hand and its ah, too many?
morab
acwh
samh
sindhi
am stang
conn
vlad
mini arabian typey
baroquey murgese typey
cow
freddy
small cute welara
#i have uuuuhhhhhh 12 projects kinda?#how?#i have roughly 300 horses how#may offload the few sport teke i have and the freddys#i put a lot of focus on the murgesey baroquey grades lately lol#like the ones i have no hope at all if sellinf the dud foals yet#at least i get a few bites dumping the nonke#-nonkeeper morab foals#but anyway#all the mini arabians available r nice n flashy but aaalllll chesnut i need smth better#oh also getting the manch bred into the minis is slow going#getting better but fuckin slow#idk why i have as many welara as i do theyre fun ig bc the sport can cross pure to a fuck ton of breeds & several grdes so#but ive sold 90% of all my other sport breed horses
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#arabian beauty#arabic quotes#arabian stallion#arabian#arabian horse#pure bred#arab#horse gif#horse gifs#nature gif#the torrent refugee#thetorrentrefugee#refugees#refugee#the refugee#modern art#middle east#arabic#desert life#desert nomads#desert
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This is a lot to ask but I'm somewhat versed in dog/cat breeding and it's pitfalls, all the breed traits that are detrimental to animal health (brachycephalics, scottish fold, etc), breeds that are ethical when bred properly and those that may appear unethical but actually have decent health. Can you give a very brief overview of the same for horses? Any nose shapes for example or conformations that are just unethical to produce and detrimental to the horse's wellbeing? I appreciate any insight
This is definitely a bit much for an ask, as so, so much effects horse breeding and genetics! In short: yes, this can absolutely occur in horses.
This article here shows a very good breakdown of conformation. That being said, all breeds are slightly different, but honestly I start to see really weird conformations when many breeds are smashed together, creating a franken-horse that was created for "looks" rather than function. The blog craigslisthorses has an amazing collection of conformation breakdowns and resources here. All in all, horses are different, and making sure your equipment fits them is important to alleviating many health issues.
One thing specifically that is unethical to breed conformation wise are "halter" horses. These horses aren't bred for riding. They're bred to be led around a show ring. And they look like this, with an emphasis on extreme musculature and straight legs. They also tend to carry a disease known as Hyperkalemic Periodic Paralysis or HYPP that does give the horse a more muscular appearance, but can also cause episodes of muscle tremors or paralysis. Some horses may have multiple episodes a day, others may only have one or two episodes throughout their entire life. Horses afflicted by this disease can spontaneously pass away due to paralysis of the lungs or heart failure.
As for faces, there is a lot of conflicting information about certain face structures being detrimental or causing health issues. Most commonly brought up in face discussions is the Arabian horse:
These horses have a dished face in the breed standard. This dish has become more pronounced throughout the years, and drferox has a good post discussing the more pronounced dishes here. I'm of the opinion that extreme dishing can cause health concerns with breathing and shouldn't be bred for.
Horse colors, however, can have an effect on health. Gray horses are more likely to develop melanomas, and horses with extreme pink on the skin are more susceptible to sunburns and skin cancer in those areas. Sunscreen can be applied to the effected areas.
Another color related breeding concern is located in the frame overo gene. This is a white gene that is fine for the foal if in the heterozygous form, but produces a condition known as lethal white syndrome (LWS) in the homozygous form. Breeding two frame overo horses together has a 25% chance of producing a lethal white foal. LWS effects the digestive system nerves and prevents it from moving food. These foals are born pure white and pass within 72 hours of being born. Testing for LWS is essential if you want to breed two white pattern horses together.
Specifically, as far as breeds go, closed stud books can be responsible for inbreeding issues. A good example of this is the Friesian breed, which was almost lost due to inbreeding. Around 15% of Friesian horses carry Hydrocephalus, which increases pressure in the skull and enlarges the head. This often always results in a stillborn birth and can even kill the dam. This condition is rare in other breeds.
Other internal issues are Fragile Foal Syndrome in warmbloods, and PSSM and HYPP in quarterhorses. Many stud books test and track horses that carry these genes to prevent them from passing. Many breeds have these specific ailments that should be tested for, and listing every one of them is impossible for an ask like this aha. If you have a question about a specific breed, its good to do research about that!
All in all, this is a super large topic that is impossible to discuss in one ask, lol. Parting message is basically don't breed your horse unless you get them tested for lethal genes that are present in their breeds.
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Now THIS is truly beautiful Arabian horse
note NO exaggeratedly dished face
Photo by my old horse riding buddy and former roommate Wojtek Kwiatkowski. Check out his Instagram
Elikzir++ (Ganges x Ularia by *Europejczyk) 2005, Pure Polish Arabian Stallion, Bred by Marsha Parkinson, MD, Owned by Dorann LaPerch; Bonn-Fyre Farms/Training Center Moorpark, CA
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OK THIS IS GOING TO BE LONG AND IM NO SORRY AT ALL.
@lady-writes . You asked for this.
Horses, Myths and History
Horses and History
Horses were domesticated as Helpers. They have been used as food sources, however their duties of Beast Of Burden are priority
COMPANIONS. Bedouin tribes Valued horses over all other possessions, and you LITERALLY would insult a man if you offered to buy a horse from his herd. They were family. Favored horses would sleep in the tents with the family on cold desert nights, and the mares did double duty as Baby Sitters and Fucking War Steeds. the Stallions were considered too "temperamental " where as Arabian Mares would Fuck Your Shit Up .
WAR HORSES. Draft Horses, Drum Horses, War Horses, The ORIGINAL Tanks. Literally the backbone of the war machine, hauled munitions, supplies, and personnel in Every. Single. War. Still in use today. Look up Sergeant Reckless, she was AMAZING and literally carried artillery shells up and down a hill while under fire.
INDUSTRY. We measure shit in horsepower. Because it's not just about How Big the horse is that is doing the job, but what is the job that needs to be done. Horses were used to turn millstones in areas that windmills and watermill weren't available. PONIES were used to cart shitnout of mines (sadly, some were bred and lived underground and were blind due to this). Prior to the steam engine, you weren't going Anywhere without a horse or ox, and quite honestly....horses are nicer and more versatile than your average Ox, Camel or Elephant.
CAVE PAINTINGS. we have been documenting horses as a symbol of freedom/friendship since we first fucking saw them. You don't see the fear associated with wolves/bears, or the hunt associated with mammoths/bison. Horses are just...Running.
Horses in Myth!
Horses in myths are tied to the elements--especially in Greek myths. But, not the elements you would think.
Water and Air. Pegasus-a winged horse. Pure freedom, not tied to the ground, can travel between Olympus and Greece with ease. Posidon/Neptune is the God of the Sea...and Father of horses. The sea sounds like a heard running, but you cannot control the sea with brute strength, you have to work with it, just like a horse.
Arabian lore says that the Arabian horse was created by using the South Wind to give life to the sand, so that the horse would be swift, warm and loyal.
Basically, throughout history, humans looked at animals and went "can I ride that?"
horses were one of the few that actually let us get away with it for so long. And for a long time we let progress get in the way of being good caretakers of our fellow animal, but we are turning that around now.
Without horses, our world would be fundamentally different. They let us feel what it is to race across desert, tundra and open plain across millenia and have stared down horrific warfare and run towards cannon and machine-gun fire when we asked.
we don't fucking deserve horses, but I'm so happy we have them
#long ass rant about horses#this is not researched at all#just my memory#and 30 years of being in love with these animals#my old boy for a visual of a 22 year partnership
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am Lazarus left of food and in vain words to makes dagger, Rosamondas bowl. Of heated turf and state, nor and blessing me like a bell be merry should past:” since he doth holds my deepe moved a collectors fear; well in which I havent under the Golden reins would be deare
blame young were budded quickness in western skies to read thee page than you will within the stem less gray, and drunk, that often she was only lily; she went mad, I shall forbids; within the Arabian Night, he hid in peace an twenty, Tam!
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Honestly that’s not the worst dish face I’ve seen on an Arabian horse before. I’ve seen some wonky horses in my time from the ladies I worked with. I had the:
-- Moose; lovely warmblood, confirmation of a moose, dumb as a brick with signs of serious inbreeding. Would have stolen him bc I loved his dumb ugly ass.
--Toothpick; a horse the owner insisted up and down was a t. walker but had the head of a draft breed and the body of a much smaller skinnier horse. Had the appearance of a bubble head on a skinny neck walking on stilts.
-- That’s A Mustang; “No it’s a quarter horse with a bad temper!”
-- Ma’am your horse is concave; A “pure bred” arabian with a face that could ladle soup that she got “for a steal” at over 75k
-- The High Heeler; Idk who said this horse was in perfect health but those were platform hooves and I have NEVER seen anything like it before or since
Honorable mention:
-- Hack ‘n’ cough; Perfectly fine looking horse but had COPD and the owner would CRANK HIS DANG HEAD DOWN and run him in circles until he was gasping for air and foaming at the mouth bc he “wasn’t keeping his head in the proper position”.
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So an update on Pestka - she was bred to Safari CAHR successfully and had a pure Old World Polish Foal. Unfortunately, he was born with a neck deformation, and was assumed to have the rare OAAM1 malformation. However, Pestka tested negative for the recessive gene. The sire is now deceased, but his offspring tested negative, too. Which leaves the question of does this foal have a different, new OAAM mutation, or is this something else entirely.
** Not trying to venerate the breeder in any way btw. I believe what was said about her on here, and have since seen her do irresponsible things like not getting a vet out for a mare that took forever to drop a placenta. I just have seen this foal being posted in the Polish Arabian groups and think the case is interesting. **
For a second I thought this was the dam of Pepesza but she’s too young. Still a Probat daughter, though. Apparently he had two named Pestka. It’s nuts that she’s at an auction but I shouldn’t be surprised. If she were younger I’m sure she’d be safe but they’re taking a real risk given her age. But there seem to be a lot of Arabian breeders in Oregon; hopefully someone will be interested. Or there’s a reserve on her and the owners will take her back if it’s not met.
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1. dish face or roman nose? why?
I am more partial to roman noses than dished faces these days purely out of rebellion because my aunts are fucking weird about Arabian horses. (My grandfather bred Arabs...this is my annoying piece of personal trivia.)
6. Stock horses or sport horses?
Sport horses because we love a purpose-bred animal and I need to make sure people recall that I’m a Warmblood Elitist.
14. Most expensive piece of tack you own? Still technically my dressage saddle even though it’s garbage and I am actively trying to sell it. (Well actively is questionable).
27. Least favorite discipline?
That I’ve personally participated in? Oh god, I guess back to when I was a wee child and technically doing Western Pleasure classes?? In general... I think saddleseat is more inherently rife with abuse than Western Pleasure so saddleseat for sure.
42. A bad habit your horse has? Eats fucking dirt.
50. Have you ever gotten into a fight with your trainer? I had an abusive GM type eventing trainer that I finally “had it out with” at age 14 or 15 but when I snapped I didn’t actually say anything to him. I just by the grace of god managed to ride the hardly green-broke horse I was on through the course (which he hadn’t “cleared me to ride yet” because “I didn’t know my canter leads”) with her landing on all the correct leads and taking appropriate distances before riding up to the gate and having one of the adults watching the lesson let me out. This was the point in my riding career where I was struggling with my personal horse to consistently get the right canter lead (even though I fucking knew it and knew what it felt like when it was “wrong” because I wasn’t a fucking moron) because she desperately needed corrective shoeing and worn her hinds so unevenly that she wouldn’t want to load in the hind and tried to push off in the front for canter because she was so uncomfortable. What was an issue stemming out of comparative poverty and ignorance on farrier work (we had for years used a farrier who charged very little because it was all my family could afford and gotten away with it because of Arabians with good feet) was consistently treated as a personal failing and ineptitude on my part. My horse was uncomfortable and I wasn’t capable of understanding that, all I knew was that I KNEW my canter leads and my horse refusing to take the right lead was extremely frustrating. This escalated to instead of this trainer ever at any point assessing my horse or asking to see me switch ride to him refusing to teach me if I showed up to lessons with my horse. At the time my family had recently purchased an unfinished horse that couldn’t canter under saddle... so that’s what I took to my lessons on. That horse was extremely inconsistent on canter leads at the time and I would ask, get the wrong lead, do a simple, get the correct lead. The horse would favor the left lead because the horse was unevenly muscled. Of course seeing my on another horse that didn’t immediately take the right canter lead further cemented the idea that “I didn’t know my leads” despite my age and level. He never stopped to ask me about the horse or why I often had to correct my canter transitions. So of course in a lesson when he wanted to emphasize “landing on the correct lead” through a 6 fence grid he was furious with me for riding a horse that wasn’t doing that. First of all, the horse hadn’t been jumping more than 3 months at that point. Second of all, I was too busy keeping her from running out in a grid that massively over-faced her that whenever she went through straight I would give her huge praise at the end. She’d do almost the entire grid on the left lead after coming in on the right because that wasn’t something I was focused on and it was more comfortable to her. After however many times of my horse not doing things perfectly because she wasn’t my friends’ five-figure schooled horses (and him allowed them to do the grid to the course but holding me back) after my horse landed after the first fence in the grid on the left lead, he yelled “I hope you fall off and break your back because that’s what you deserve”. At which point an ability to ride better than I ever can consciously was activated and I managed to pilot that horse through the rest of the grid and through the course perfectly. My two other trainers (I rode and was a WS for a h/j trainer and had a dressage trainer) both did eventually recognize what my horse was doing in the canter and explain how it was a shoeing issue. Got corrective shoeing, had a fantastic horse I eventually took my B on.
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The Percheron is a breed of draft horse that originated in the Huisne river valley in western France, part of the former Perche province from which the breed takes its name. Usually gray or black in color, Percherons are well muscled, and known for their intelligence and willingness to work. Although their exact origins are unknown, the ancestors of the breed were present in the valley by the 17th century. They were originally bred for use as war horses. Over time, they began to be used for pulling stagecoaches and later for agriculture and hauling heavy goods. In the late 18th and early 19th centuries, Arabian blood was added to the breed. Exports of Percherons from France to the United States and other countries rose exponentially in the late 19th century, and the first purely Percheron stud book was created in France in 1883.
The size considered ideal for the Percheron varies between countries. In France, height ranges from 15.1 to 18.1 hands and weight from 1,100 to 2,600 pounds. Percherons in the United States generally stand between 16.2 and 17.3 hands, with a range of 15–19 hands. American Percherons average 1,900 pounds, and their top weight is around 2,600 pounds. In Great Britain, 16.2 hands is the shortest acceptable height for stallions and 16.1 hands for mares, while weights range from around 2,000–2,200 pounds for stallions and 1,800–2,000 pounds for mares.They are generally gray or black in coloring, although the American registry also allows the registration of roan, bay and chestnut horses.Only gray or black horses may be registered in France and Britain. Many horses have white markings on their heads and legs, but registries consider excessive white to be undesirable.
The head has a straight profile, broad forehead, large eyes and small ears. The chest is deep and wide and the croup long and level. The feet and legs are clean and heavily muscled. The overall impression of the Percheron is one of power and ruggedness. Enthusiasts describe the temperament as proud and alert, and members of the breed are considered intelligent, willing workers with good dispositions. They are considered easy keepers and adapt well to many conditions and climates. In the 19th century, they were known to travel up to 37 miles a day at a trot.
Several theories have been put forth as to the ancestry of the breed, though its exact origins are unknown. One source of foundation bloodstock may have been mares captured by Clovis I from the Bretons some time after 496 AD, and another may have been Arabian stallions brought to the area by Muslim invaders in the 8th century. Other possibilities are captured Moorish cavalry horses from the Battle of Poitiers in 732 AD, some of which were taken by warriors from Perche. A final theory posits that the Percheron and the Boulonnais breed are closely related, and that the Boulonnais influenced the Percheron when they were brought to Brittany as reinforcements for the legions of Caesar. It is known that during the 8th century, Arabian stallions were crossed with mares native to the area, and more Oriental horse blood was introduced by the Comte du Perche upon his return from the Crusades and expeditions into territory claimed by Spain. Blood from Spanish breeds was added when Rotrou III imported horses from Castile. No matter the theory of origin, breed historians agree that the terrain and climate of the Perche area had the greatest influence on the development of the breed.
The Percheron is the most famous and populous of all French draft breeds in the world today. By the end of the 19th century, Percherons made up the majority of driving horses in Paris.The Percheron is still used extensively for draft work and, like other draft breeds, it is also used in France for meat production. Around the world, Percherons are used for parades, sleigh rides and hayrides, as well as being used to pull carriages in large cities. The largest team of working Percherons in Europe is found at Disneyland Paris, where the breed makes up 30 percent of the horses in the park and the horses work to pull trams on the main park street. One of the most famous horse teams in the United States is the Heinz hitch of Percherons, having appeared multiple times at the Tournament of Roses Parade. In Great Britain, the Percheron is used for advertising and publicity, as well as forestry and farm work. Purebred Percherons are also ridden, and some have proven useful at show jumping.
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