#anyway we stan supportive bro

[watchthecandleflicker]

Who else celebrating Guy Fawkes Night??? 💥💥💥

[a-fluffy-dog24]

The legend of the sea bros

The boys are off on an adventure at sea And talk about they issues and they need each other emotionally and physically to survive. Ford is trying to reject the help from his brother that he desperately needs.Stan is so worried about his brother that he forgets that sometimes he needs to rely on his brother for support.

September,8,2012

It was a beautiful morning off the coast of South America Stan was standing on the deck of their boat. "Good morning you up early" Ford said sarcastically Stan sticks his tongue out at him Ford rolls his eyes. "At least I don't go to bed at 8:00 "Stan teased "well at least I'm not hungover" Ford teased "Shut up and give me my coffee".

Ford handed him his coffee "what have you been up to this morning" "well I shower made breakfast and, I packed us supplies for today". Stan ate breakfast then they headed out to go exploring.Stan is wearing a red beanie and a white shirt and brown coat,blue pants Ford is weairing red sweater and blue coat,black pants boots They went through the forest, and caves and found a small black egg with red spots alone on the ground. Ford wants to take it to learn more about what creature it is he never seen an egg that color before. Stan thinks he shouldn’t.Because he remembered that time during the summer when he hatch a dinosaur egg and it end badly for his wallet. But Ford is interested on trying to hatch they had lunch on the top of the hill.

."Well Stanley we did it, do you remember when we were 12 years old and we found a boat and named it the StanOwar". "Yea seems like only yesterday I remember mom came to check on us to make sure we weren't missing she thought it was so cute"Stan said "yeah she took this picture of her two little adventurous" Ford put out the picture and showed him and Stan remember “we try to paint the whole thing" ,"I remember you through paint at me" Ford teased. "Yea by the time we were done we were covered in paint" "do remember how upset mother was"Ford said "She was pissed we didn't have shirts we were sunburned that was not a fun night "Stan remember

"Anyway this sandwich is beautiful” he says well eating “oww god I have a bad headache” he complains . “Do you take your meds this morning” Ford asked “no” he replied “well that’s probably why you need to take them when we get back”. They packed up and hiked back to the beach to their boat. They can see the sunset fading from blue to red."Did you see that" Stan asked "what did you do you see" "sixer I think a sea monster maybe". They ran onto their boat and put the egg down somewhere safe "I don't see anything" "never mind let go"Stan pulled up the aker. They sailed out to sea for a while then they saw it bobbing in the water.

Stan look at the water it rose from the water "LOOK THERE IT IS GET SOMETHING TO KILL IT WITH holy SHIT it's huge".The giant monster starts attacking the boat "ok I got a spear" Ford grabs a spear and throws it at the huge green sea monster. It has one eye but he misses and the monster gabs Ford's arm and starts putting him overboard.He accidentally hit his head into the wall of the boat it makes him feel like the floor is moving up and down.He starts pulling away and hitting it hard with his hand but it no use "Fuck " Ford yelled Stan run over and punks the monster in the eye, "GET AWAY FROM MY BROTHER YOU SON OF A BICH "he yells.It goes away back into the water, Ford laughs "you did it how hard did you punk it ""I don't know hard enough I guess".

Ford has difficulty sitting down because the his body is shaking and his head really hurts. He tried to get up on the wooden box,but he is feeling frustrated that he keeps falling down do his dizziness."Are you ok" Stan looked worried as he can’t even sit down "I'm fine" "but you’re bleeding and you’re still dizzy let me help you". "No, I can take care of myself I manage to for 30 years” Ford tried to stop the large cuts from bleeding. On his hand and arm it bleeding all down his arm. But he can’t hold still long enough for the blood to clog.Stan dock the boat on the sandy shore but after he come up with a first a kit and a bowl  of soapy water. Ford takes the wet washcloth and wipes his arm ."Thank you" "I'm not going to let my brother get hurt by some dumb monster" he said hopeing that his brother will let him help. “I’m perfectly capable of tending to my own wounds ” it takes him a long while to rap a bandage around his arm.

Then the guys try to call Dipper and Mabel "mazel tov how do you turn this thing stupid on "Stan frustrated hit the phone "I don't know, did you read the intrusion they gave us"Ford said sarcastically."shut up it's working " ....... "Hi Grunkle Stan Hi Grunkle Ford"she yelled excitedly "Hi you guys"said Dipper "we have missed you kids"Stan told them . "What are you doing?"she asks "I just defeated a sea monster" Stan said proudly "how big was it" she wondered "It was huge bigger than the mystery shack" "wow cool"she added "are you sure you're not lying"Dipper questions.

"No he's not and I found this meritorious egg" Ford held it in his hand. It's almost as big as his hand "that's amazing, what do you think it is"Dipper wondered. "I don't know, we have to wait and see" "I think it's like a big butterfly"she hoped ." Mom and dad said we have to go to bed by" Dipper interrupted "by love you guys"she smiled and waved goodbye "bye bye ""by see you soon"Stan hung up  the phone.

Then later Stan makes dinner because if Ford made it they would be eating cereal for dinner.They eat dinner they have fish with carrots and drink their beer on the deck and watch the stars. Ford turns on a radio to listen to some 60s and 70s music.Stan looks angerly at Fords bandages. “Why do you drive me crazy” Stan asks frustrated “what do you mean what are you talking about” he has an idea about what this might be about. “Ford why won’t you let ME HElP YOU ” Stan yelled “because I’m a grown man WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH” he argued “CAUSE I LOVE YOU StanFord I’m trying to make sure you don’t fucking die…. I don’t want you to be hurt” Stan argued. “You need to let people help you sometimes” he finish saying

“I’m sorry Stanley I’m just so used to being independent I don’t realize when I need you” Ford apologize. “It’s okay…….remember when we were kids and we tried to be explores we made a car out of a box. Whore dumb little outfits with the stuff from dad’s shop” Stan reminisce and lit his pipe. Ford takes a sip of his beer “Yes we were really young I think 6 or 7 without are understanding how gravity works.We tried to see what would happen if we pushed it down the stairs with us in it.” “Oh boy that hurt but that didn’t stop us we got up and did it again”Stan laughed. “I think thats how I lost my first baby tooth” Ford told him. “Speaking of which remember in the Photo Booth when we were fooling around and I fall down on my head. I lost my front tooth I was such a stupid kid .” Stan sheepishly .

“Yup I didn’t enjoy explaining that to are parents,they we should have known better at 13 not to be roughhousing. They never got it properly fixed did they?”Ford add “yeah as a teen I got a fake tooth and that help. I mean now I have dentures so that Solve that problem.”He eat some of his food. Then he asks Ford “I've been going out with this girl” “are you sure it’s not a siren we don’t want to end up like the men in tales” Ford jokes. “NO she not or I hope really hope not ……Sixer hey do you want girlfriend", Ford looks up from his journaling "umm Stanley I don't know how to say this but" "oh do you boyfriend"he ask seriously ."I'm ok by myself..I have hobbies, I have the kids, I have you and that is all the love I need. Romance is a confusing feeling to me.I don't want a relationship at the moment I would probably prefer a male partner. It's has taken me a long time to accept that part of myself rather than me trying to run from it. But thank you for the offer".Stan took a smoke from his pipe and blew it off then he asked him.

"Ok just thought I ask....I still love you" Ford hug him and lifts Stan up a little "Hey put me down"Stan smiles at Ford “ since when can you pick me up off the ground you and your week nerd arms” Stan quested. “I’m stronger than you give me credit for little brother” Ford tease him. “Only 15 minutes there show off” Then Stan tried to licks him on the cheek, "what are you doing? No stop it". He moved closer "AHH STANLEY are you high'' Ford laughs "little bit "Stan laughs. "Do you want some" he asks "no I tried it in college I didn't like it and I'm still to mentally recover" he jokes "do you still smoke cigarettes" he asks. "No I quit been clean for 13 years or so" Stan tells him "well that's really great I know you were smoking for a long while good job " "Thanks I did it for the kids Soos brought me to the doctor and helped quit. But I still smoke cigars and stuff like to mix it up every once in a while. I guess that’s not as bad ."

"..Did you bathe today" Ford asked "well no" "that weed makes you stink like stunk go shower" Stan sticks his tongue out at him Ford rolls his eyes and smiles. "Oh bye the way I cooked you clean" Stan asked him "ok but please tell me you didn't use every pot and pan we own." Ford said and goes to start cleaning the mountain of dishes.But before he quickly realizes he needs to keep the egg warm. He picks it up from the blankets it had raps around it He put the egg under the a heat lamp and turned it on. Maybe they’ll have a new pet.

After Stan showers, they go to bed.12:00 am Ford got up to use the bathroom and he found Stan outside out the deck watching the waves. A 6 fingers hand was put on his back "Stanley what are you doing out here" "I couldn't sleep" "Did you have a nightmare". "Yes... I was in a room by myself in the dark and someone was telling me that I was worthless and I believe it.

The voice said it again and again but louder  and then dad came out of nowhere he told me to my face again that he thought I never was good for anything anyway. I...I COULDN'T"T DO A GOD DAM thing about it and I couldn't make it stop it's all my fault "he sobbed. Ford hugs him tightly "shhh okay you are not worthless without you I still be stuck in a another  dimension or the kids would gone.He really was a bad person it's feels a little worse to say that about our own father. But he hurt you and thats Something I can't let you be dragged down by for the rest of our lives. You're much more smarter than I am when it comes to noticing  things and braver too you really mean the world to me Stanley.

“Did you take your medicine this morning” “I don’t remember.. just to let you know you’re the one diagnosed with depression the medication is under your name” Stan told him he’ll have to call the pharmacy in the morning to get the prescription under Stanley name. “Come on let’s go bed” he whispers. He carried Stan like a small child and walked back inside. Ford decided that he too tried and exhaust from his withdrawal to drag himself to bed.

And he thinks that maybe this is a way to make up for his mistreat of his younger brother. Ford thinks that he is unhappy with himself for not being a good brother to him for being so selfish and stubborn even when Stan just trying to help him. He finds it difficult to let himself be cared for. Because he struggles with his shame of feeling like he doesn’t deserve to be loved. Stan would has no problem doing the same for him. Inside Ford gets his him his medicine and helps him in to bed. Stan looked at him and smiled a little bit and Ford thought maybe he still has a chance to change. He feels a lot better now that he’s brother looks to be doing alright. Ford wrapped a red plaid blanket around both of them they slept and cuddled side by side.

A day or two later they did some exploring on the beach of the new island it seems to be very populated by people. The locals are friendly to the twins they stop at a restaurant for breakfast "hey Ford do you want to hear the dream I had last night". "Maybe? Sure ""I had a dream that mom told me that she is proud of me for helping you..Isn't that weird". "Yea that odd I had a similar dream that she wanted me to be less stubborn and she was very happy that we're looking after each other".

"I wish mother was here"Ford told him taking a sip of his tea "I wish too but if it makes you feel better she knew" Stan comforted him "she knew about the portal and my disappearance" he asked. "Yes she is the only one I trusted and she knew I could bring you back. She gave me money when she could to help run it.And told me when she died I think that was a little while after the kids were born. She said to keep going to Bring you back." Stan took off his gold chain and opened it to show him.And in Lock it was a picture of the two of them and their mother.Ford touched with 6 fingers hand gently rubbing it and smiled Stan smiled too.After they finished their food they did some shopping at the market for supplies and food that should last them a few weeks. And get some cool stuff to show the kids.

"Is Shamans still alive" Ford asked him "umm no unfortunately he passed away a year ago from kidney cancer sorry" Stan told him. "That's a shame I thought we could go and see him is his wife Faith is she still alive" he said " Faith is she in a nursing home in Piedmont we could go with Michael if you wanted to" Stan offered Ford shook his head and agreed that they should when they get back home. Stan showed him a Hawaiian shirt he wants to buy even though he already has about 10. They headed to the ship and start dinner when the egg starts to hatch “look Stanley it’s hatching get my journal” Ford waits and watches what ever creature might come out.

“Lets hope it’s not a siren I don’t want to go through that again ” Stan hands him his phone a little brown head slowly pops out it has the ears of a cat and the eyes and mouth of a dog. A small round brown body covered in curly dark brown hair and a cat nose.Paws too big for it body thick tail with a white patch on the end. “Well that’s looks like something Mabel would draw she kind of cute” Stan try to pat her she moves away. “It’s incredible I’ve never seen anything like it before”Ford wrote down his observations.She jumped into his lap and licks his face “gross stop it be a good test subject ” Ford takes her and measures her height and takes pictures.Get a blood sample then he uses a microscope to look at her DNA.

A few hours later after Ford runs more tests Stan asks “You weren’t thinking of just using her to run your experiments and then getting rid of her were you”. “Well yes we can’t take care of a pet” Ford says “why not she can’t survive on her own just look at her” Stan points to her playing with a ball on the floor. “Ok you make a good point” he reaches out and gives her a scratch Stan pick her up and gives her her bottle. “How about Joy” he suggests “perfect” Ford agrees.They sailed around the world together from Colombia to Ireland to Australia to the Netherlands to Antarctica, to Africa and many other places looking for babes and treasure and creatures, myths .

[pluckyredhead]

So the Bill Willingham Steph post crossed my dash again and got me wondering... if you're a writer, what IS the best way to respond to fans (singular or group) that publicly call out your writing at a con? Obviously you shouldn't wish violence on them but since it's not like you can un-write the story, do you ignore them? Change the subject? Argue back?

I mean, I can't pretend to know the BEST way to handle a volatile question in a public space, when saying nothing is not an option.

But I also want to challenge the idea that fans were "calling out [Willingham's] writing," because that wasn't what they were doing. Sure, plenty of people said he was a hack online. But at cons, what they were asking was "Why doesn't Steph have a memorial case?"

I always hammer that point home because it's so astonishing to me now. We didn't want them to bring Steph back from the dead. We just wanted them to memorialize her fairly. We were asking for crumbs, and it infuriated Willingham and DC Editorial. To the point that when they did bring Steph back by revealing Leslie Thompson had faked Steph's death, Tim goes "So that's why she didn't have a memorial case!" They would rather have her alive than give a bunch of (mostly) female fans the tiny bit of fairness they had been asking for. It's just mind-boggling to me now how little we were willing to settle for and how angry it still made DC.

Anyway, the decision to kill Steph was editorially mandated, and the decision not to give her a case was also editorially mandated - neither of those were Willingham's decision to make. (The other objection fans had, the sexualized depiction of Black Mask torturing Steph, was also not Willingham's fault - that was artist Jon Proctor.) Now, obviously Willingham couldn't just say "Not my fault, ask DC" because throwing his employer under the bus would not have been good for his career. But DC also shouldn't have hung him out to dry.

I think ideally with any controversial storyline, the publisher should have a discussion with the creators about the best way to handle questions so that everyone is on the same page. But what happens instead is that creators (underpaid freelancers who are almost all in precarious financial circumstances) bear the full brunt of any anger, blame, or harassment, and the publishers (massive corporations*) get to ignore it.

Of course, in Willingham's case, he was not harassed, but asked a polite question ("Why doesn't Steph have a memorial case?") that he probably could have easily said was up to DC without getting in trouble. But instead he chose to publicly fantasize about committing violence against real women, because he was annoyed. So that's DEFINITELY not the answer.

So in conclusion: in general publishers should step up more, in specific Willingham is a fucking douche.

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*When I say "massive corporations" I'm talking specifically about DC and Marvel, who are owned by Warner Bros and Disney respectively. Image is not a massive corporation. Also, DC Comics and Marvel Comics are in tricky positions because they are actually small, weirdly ramshackle legacy publishers who in a lot of ways still operate like they did when Marvel had two (2) actual employees, Stan Lee and his secretary Flo Steinberg. They operate on tiny margins, everyone who works there is criminally underpaid, their HR is a fucking joke... So like, none of this excuses editors for repeatedly not supporting their creators during times of controversy (THE FUCKING MOCKINGBIRD COVER, Chelsea Cain is a TERF but that shit was ridiculous), but I think it's also important to remember that when we're talking about the people editing these books on a monthly basis, we're not talking about Bog Iger or David Zaslav - we're talking about someone living in NYC or Burbank working 60 hour weeks on a $45K salary so that Disney has enough IP to make Guardians of the Galaxy 9 or whatever. It's complicated.

[foxdemon-loser]

do where the gang finds out Johnny can sing. Like REALLY sing. Full on Frank Sinatra like singing. And when he does, he gets all confident and such. What’s each member of the gangs reaction?

Ok hc time:

Ponyboy Curtis:

-He didn’t think Johnny had it in him tbh

-Was the first to see Johnny sing

-IMMEDIATELY loved it, he’d make Johnny sing all the time

-Ponyboy would always encourage Johnny (we love a hype man)

-They’d listen to the radio together and Ponyboy would sing with Johnny =]

Sodapop Curtis:

-Ponyboy told him first and he DID NOT BELIVE HIM he was like “nah dog” but then Ponyboy showed him and he was like “😦”

-Tried to get Johnny to sing Elvis but Johnny only really liked Frank Sinatra so that was a little disappointing, but Soda loved it anyway

-Would (badly) sing along with Johnny

-Gave Johnny the radio to listen to music with

Darry Curtis:

-Appreciated Johnnys taste in music (i’ve got a feeling Darry doesn’t like Elvis) and thought his voice was really good

-Admired his confidence when he was singing and encouraged Johnny to be a bit more like that when he’s not singing sometimes

-Basically just being the supportive dad he is

-We stan Darry Curtis in this house

Steve Randle:

-Sodapop showed him Johnny signing and istg Steve got the biggest most goofy grin ever

-He was like “BRO-“

-Hype man 2

-Got too excited when Johnny sang for the first time and fell off the back of the couch

-He was good tho

Two-Bit Matthews:

-SCREAMED when Johnny sang

-He loves it

-We love a supportive Two-Bit <3

-Sung along with Johnny too (tho he was probably drunk so it didn’t sound great)

-Tryna make Johnny sing more

-Loves how confident he gets when he sings

Dallas Winston:

-Silent supporter

-He doesn’t show he likes it, but he pats Johnny on the back after and gives him smiles and stuff

-Doesn’t like Frank Sinatra but appreciates when Johnnys singing it

-Made Steve fall off the couch that one time

[pretty-oooodd]

BSD men with a punk s/o!!

Featuring: Dazai, Chūya, Atsushi, Ranpo, Kunikida, Akutagawa, Sigma, Fyodor, Nikolai.

TW/CW: no tw, this is a fluff "domestic" one. Mention of tattoos, piercings. Let me know if you want me to add more (bc I'm not really practical with tws).

Enjoy <3!!

DAZAI is the kind of guy that's always been interested in these kinds of subcultures, especially punk, but he didn't really had the reasons or will to get into it.

He likes the trash pants, the one full of patches, chains and tears.

But his absolute favorites are the skinny ones full of tears, with fishnets underneath them.

He's a big tease, so he would really have fun poking the holes in his s/o's clothes. Especially the ones on their tights.

You have tattoos? Cool, give him sharpies (Crayola ones) and he'll color your tats.

Piercing on your lips? He'll make sure to lick it when he kisses you.

Ow come on, our buddy CHŪYA is a punk soul.

Argue with the wall.

He listens to punk music with his HEART.

And kinda likes the clothing, he just prefers his elegant attire.

So, if his s/o is punk he will love it. Absolutely admire you for your style and strong ideals, bc let's not forget what punk is abt!!

If you have tattoo sleeves, especially flowers, he STANS.

Nose piercings and studs lover here. He himself wants a nose piercing.

If you wear the same size clothes, he maybe steal something from your closet.

Would probably bring you to a concert.

ATSUSHI is so soft and probably doesn't like studs but he would never offend you ^^

He wasn't really interested or educated on this community before meeting you.

He learned the lace code just for you!!

Doesn't really understand and like the music, but supports you and everything you like!

He LOVES your tattoos! He thinks they are so cool.

If you have piercings he will make sure to learn how to clean them and help you with it.

RANPO thinks that your style is interesting but doesn't really mind it.

If you're a messy, chaotic person, you will get along.

If you have one of those wonderful haircuts like Mohawks or just bright hair color he will absolutely love it.

Likes playing with your hair and coloring your tattoos.

The patches in your pants and vests are his favorite parts.

Doesn't listen much music in general, so punk isn't really his problem anyway.

LMAOOO, HOW???

I still haven't understood what's KUNIKIDA's "ideal woman".

Btw, he isn't a fan of punk or these cultures in general but likes you anyway.

Considers tattoos and piercings (everything abt this style) "unprofessional".

And he will tell you but there's nothing he can do abt it.

We stan a punk monarch.

Will always be the one to remember you to clean and treat your tats and piercings.

Kinda likes the dedication you put into styling your own clothes and hair.

And he likes the fact that the community expresses its ideals too.

Bro doesn't care.

Lord give him two shits to give pls.

Jkjk, AKUTAGAWA kinda likes the "aggressive" style.

He's into the metal music probably idk.

Likes the studs and boots with platforms.

Likes to sew the patches on your vests and pants.

Piercings like nose bridge are his absolute favorites!!

You shaved your eyebrows for him, how sweet.

He's an introvert but the moshpit would be his natural habitat, just to let the rage out.

Poor man, SIGMA got scared the first time he saw you.

He doesn't fully understand the "use" or "meaning" of this style but he's learning.

Not a fan of the music but loves you, so he will listen something if you ask him.

He likes your tattoos, as he thinks of them as a form of art that makes you unique.

Piercings aren't his thing tho. Really doesn't understand them but loves earrings.

You two probably have some matching sets of earrings.

He finds punks intimidating but in a good way.

HOW PT. 2?????? WHAT?

I mean, I think FYODOR's kinda into metal and goth things but punk???

Punk really isn't his thing.

Doesn't like piercings, idk.

But tats are a form of art for him, just like painting.

He appreciates your dedication to the ideals even if he doesn't fully agree sometimes.

His favorite parts of your outfits are the boots!

He probably likes your hair too, bc they're particular.

Doesn't like the concerts so he won't come with you.

He probably looks cool af in a leather jacket with studs.

NIKOLAI is a biiig tease.

He likes to play with your hair and piercings.

He's the prime example of man child: give him sharpies and he will color your tats gladly.

Probably wants to get a piercing just like his s/o!!

He dies your hair. You have no escape from this.

Skinny jeans fan!!

Nikolai isn't really into punk music but likes early 2000s emo culture (early Panic! At The Disco and Fall Out Boy).

My boy will torment you if you don't let him try your clothes on.

[alaskan-wallflower]

how south park characters comfort someone? i’ve got you. please add your own thoughts!

stan: gonna be honest here, i don’t think he’d be all that receptive. i love stan, i actually think im most similar to him than any other character. that said, i think he would be pretty awkward when trying to comfort someone. especially if they’re crying. probably a tentative pat on the back, some generic advice like “it’s gonna be okay dude…just like…don’t think about it?” he means well, he really does. but bro gets extremely confused over his own emotions (and he has a lot of them) so don’t count on him to understand yours. hes even worse over text, “👍”

kyle: similar to stan in some ways, but more of a problem solver. kyle is my fav character but this guy. is not very good at listening and just wants to fix the problem. honestly depending on the situation he’d probably think you’re overreacting. but if he realizes it’s cereal then he must fix it with facts and logic. my partner does this and it’s like okay i love that you wanna fix it but can you just let me complain for a second…anyways. again very well meaning, he’d actually be very good at reassurance.

kenny: king of listening. he doesn’t talk much anyways, he’s more of an observer. so he probably already KNOWS if a friend is in distress. number one guy if you need someone to wrap an arm around you and listen to your problems and be like “that sucks dude” and when he does drop some advice, it’s like the most philosophical life changing advice you’ll ever receive. he also has experience being a source for comfort for his sister, he has a good energy. stan may be the most sensitive, but i think kenny is most in touch and understanding of emotions.

cartman: i’m sorry cartman fans. he just wouldn’t. this bitch would either try to one-up you with his own problems or just flat out laugh at you. other people’s problems are simply just not worth his time. he only cares if it can benefit him in some way. listen i love eric cartman, he IS south park. but he’s a little shit with nearly no sense of empathy and that is why we love him. unless you’re his mom or very close friend, and even then…ehh.

Oh absolutely, 100%.

Stan is probably a pretty decent listener. When it comes to advice though you’re on your own. Like you said, he’ll probably try. He means well. But he’s REALLY fucking awkward. He hesitantly pats their shoulder and says something like ‘don’t worry about it. It’ll get better.” and over text he 100% offers no advice. He’s a face to face kind of guy. Over text he kinda just shuts down.

Kyle absolutely means well. But god almighty he’s an awful listener. If you just wanna complain to him you’re gonna have to deal with a ‘yeah but…’ every five seconds. Or just flat out tell him you wanna just complain and you’ll get a listening ear, but he still tries to do something. Be it talk to someone for you, helping you out, whatever. Kyle is a fixer. And he won’t stop until the problem is fixed. He thinks he’s doing what is best but he’s not sometimes. He gets that from his ma. He has no problem dropping the harshness of reality in someone though. He drops it hard like ‘well if you’re gonna complain about abc you need to do xyz. You need to do something about said problem’ if it’s aonething only you can fix (like an insecurity or smth)

Kenny is an incredible listener and drops pearls of wisdom sometimes. He’s the quieter and more ‘mysterious’ type anyway so hearing so thing that isn’t ’haha tits’ come from him is kinda mind blowing. But when you need a friend, he’s the go to guy of the main four. He is a god at listening. He offers physical support if needed. He offers advice (even if it isn’t always good) but he will sometimes drop some poetic, metamorphic bombshell that people actually take from him. Hes the main guy to go for for consolation.

Cartman just sucks. Hell laugh. Or exploit you. Or threaten you. Unless it benefits him, oh well. Your problem.

[butmakeitgayblog]

Why does E give you the creeps? I feel like at the time, she was more openly supportive and enthusiastic around Clexa and ADC was the one who was more cagey and was obviously a straight girl who just didn’t really know what to say/didn’t want to say the wrong thing. I have always loved Alycia, but that’s how it came across to me. I’ve been out of the fandom for awhile and am getting back into it so I’m out of the loop. Is it because she married Bob Morley?

Oh no, I couldn't care less that she married Bob. My issue with Eliza (which I've gone into deeper detail about before so I'm just gonna be more brief here) is because of BM's ex's allegations involving cheating, gaslighting, and manipulation that E was party to, and then how E has since treated Clexa and Clexa fans. She went from championing Clexa to claiming she can't really remember scenes very well? Ok. She went from calling it "bell*rke shit" that will probably never happen because that's just not Clarke and his relationship is, to telling his paying Cameo stans that oh no, no reeeeally there were these secret few times that blork almost did happened and it was in the script and they actually built whole sets for it!!! But gee golly gosh it just got cut for some reason and we super don't know how that happened! But it totally was going to happen! Blork was real!! Source: Trust Me Bro.

There's a lot more to it involving her charities and the fact that she milks hers and his stans for all the cash they can get, but in simplest terms, the writing is on the wall about who she is and how she conducts herself as a person, and I'm not a fan.

As for Alycia, if in the future she does something to piss me off I'll drop her too. Celebs get held on a pedestal way too often and forgiven for being objectively bad people just because fans like their artform. I don't care to be that way. That being said, I never held it against Alycia for not being outspoken about Clexa, that's just not who she is. She's never effusive or public on her opinions on much of anything aside from like... what flowers she likes. To her, it's a job with a clock in and clock out time, and I can respect that. I appreciate it, actually. She's always been kind and gracious with fans who have met her, or so I've heard, and that's all I think a celeb really needs to be.

Personally I never found her to be cagey per se, just quiet and kept to her own lane. She said herself that because she isn't a part of the queer community, she never felt comfortable speaking out on it because it felt like she'd be speaking over the voices of the fans and queer people who were using that time for speaking their truth and pain. While some held that against her or felt let down, I didn't because in more ways than not, she was right. There wasn't much she could've added to the conversation that wasn't already being said by people who were actually the ones hurt by what happened with Lexa and the bury your gays trope proliferation of 2016. And since then, she's shown her support. She came back to a show that she had left behind for years just to give fans closure, and she did it in a way that didn't suck money from fans by bleeding their wallets dry through endless conventions.

It's because of those very same feelings in conjunction with seeing how E has handled the whole blork/Clexa situation in recent years that has let me know all that "support" E was throwing our way was disingenuous anyway. She doesn't get to keep those points from me. Honestly I'd prefer celebs to just stay tf quiet on issues rather than virtue signal and fake support for their own interests, only to eventually show their true colors and act mystified and victimized when people feel fooled and pissed off 🤷‍♀️

[beautifulpersonpeach]

Hi BPP,

You must have seen the solo versus OT7 drama that’s been happening on Twitter or seen discussions relating to this on Tumblr. I’d like you to weigh in with your opinion on this.

To those fans who are new to this fandom, say post hiatus or just slightly pre hiatus, this could seem to be very toxic; although, it could be these same new fans who are pushing back 💁🏻‍♀️

Ultimately, the BTS anti wins - seeing a solid fandom crumble in this manner. It seems as though some of these OT7s are Sacrificing Jimin to make a point.

I hope though that Jimin does make the sales he needs and has the impact we think he shall have and that antis don’t win at pulling him down.

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Hi Anon,

Oh I saw it. Not on Tumblr (I’m yet to see any of those discussions here thank goodness), but definitely on Twitter.

This is one of those situations that causes me to rub my temples because it reveals stupidity everywhere, like tech bros inducing a global banking collapse-type stupid, and there’s plenty of blame to go around. But these exact sort of situations are what’s expected to happen given how the fandom has changed since 2020, and it’s why the byline of my blog references a fandom implosion. Because it’s coming. It just has to. Lol.

I referenced 2020 for a reason. This isn’t the first time the fandom has had to navigate supporting solo work. We’ve done it in 2015, 2016, and 2020, but because of how the fandom has changed since 2020, conflict and implosion is nearly guaranteed.

Many things changed in the fandom in 2020, but one major thing that happened is we had a huge influx of k-pop noobs into the fandom. We all know many of these people happened to be from Western/European countries and typically skewed female, white, and opinionated. According to that ARMY soc med survey, these people now account for roughly 50% of the fandom, and I reckon roughly the same amount found their way into solo stan and shipper spaces. Most of these people aren’t bad in any real sense, but what I’ve observed is they lack the history to have an understanding of the 2nd and 3rd order implications of certain actions within a k-pop space. This is something solo stans are notorious for, for example not understanding the 2nd order implications of sending a truck to HYBE claiming HYBE is mistreating your favourite member, or the 3rd order consequences of trending hashtags to make a point, as another example. Ordered thinking can be intuitive to some people, but to most people they need to have experienced a history that shows what happens 2 or 3 steps down the line when you’re only concerned with the immediate reward, forgetting that nothing in k-pop happens in a vacuum.

Anyway, I’ll say what I think on each player in the drama yesterday.

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The Solo Stans

Pre-2020, solo stans would have had the sense to not even make that request to ARMYs in the first place. That was their first mistake. Those funds would have eventually made it into ARMY buying channels (because ARMYs have the widest and most efficient systems for chart placements, solo stans do not, despite their enthusiasm), but no solo stan in their right mind would blatantly publicly request ARMY participation - it would’ve moved through DMs or solos creating ARMY cosplay accounts for that purpose. Pre-2020.

You might be wondering, what’s the damage? What’s the big deal in just telling ARMYs there’s 10 grand sitting somewhere that they can request? Shouldn’t we all put aside our ego to support Jimin?

Lol.

The thing is, Solo stans are fundamentally different from ARMYs in that they view the other members as rivals that must be defeated (1). ARMYs are inclined to support any member who needs it. And so, many solo stans simply do not trust ARMYs to spend the funds only on Jimin. And they’re right to have that fear. Most ARMYs obviously would use it for Jimin and what I’ve seen is trusted ARMY buyers and funders are responsible and provide thorough accounts of their activities, but it would be stupid to ignore that hyung-line diet solos, shippers (aka taekookers), etc, would take advantage as well. PJMs were only setting themselves up for grief by doing what they did.

Another reason it was plain moronic to publicly and blatantly announce the funds available and demand ARMY partnership with solos, is that it would set the precedent for Taehyung and Jungkook solo stans during their debuts. And I promise you, $10,000 will only be the starting amount. PJMs didn’t think beyond putting that amount of money to work, forgetting that they’ve now created a situation that demands ARMY working with taekook solos to the tune of $50,000 at least (that’s the amount I recall seeing by their fanbase in 2021 earmarked for their debuts). Nobody was paying closer attention to that drama yesterday, than other akgaes and antis. There's a lot of eyes on the fandom. PJMs, bless their heart, are often just loud, uncouth, and myopic in their thinking.

Because:

At the end of the day that money isn’t going to be sitting somewhere idle. It will definitely be spent on Jimin during his debut. Solo stans of previous eras would have had the sense to privately approach ARMY buyers and use the rest of those funds (because of course most of it will be used to get Jimin’s high chart placements in the 1st week), to support the release from week 3 which is when streams/radio typically fall off, supporting the efforts from the core of the fandom, to give Jimin’s tracks more longevity, and stronger support - a better indicator for a song’s success on the charts. But the only thinking present here yesterday was to get as many 1st week buyers with those funds to make the biggest splash as possible at debut.

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The ARMYs

As I’ve said before, too many ARMYs are just plain stupid. It’s not an insult, just the facts of the matter I’m afraid. Going by how ARMY typically operates, over the course of this week (week of the release), ARMYs would have raised well over $10,000. Obviously. It’s not something the fandom typically advertises (another key difference between ARMY and solos), but anyone who has worked within these channels would tell you a lot of money gets generated in a very short amount of time and there’s a literal army of buyers in those networks. For pre-2020 ARMYs, it would’ve been enough to say, “we’re good supporting Jimin, thanks.” And blocked the solo stans right away because they’d kick up a stink the moment you actually engaged with them and lead to the exact same situation that happened yesterday. It’s the same playbook to use with taekook shippers. But that’s not what happened, which again, is another key difference between how pre-2020 ARMYs would’ve handled this vs. newer ARMYs.

ARMYs are generally wary of working extensively with solo stans because of (1) above, as it guarantees that solos will weaponize any and all achievements to tear down the other members. As an ARMY (who could bias any member) it makes zero sense to work with anyone who literally actually wants to see another member leave the group, using any solo success over their bandmates as reasons that member should do so. A second reason is that solo stans often belong to rival fandoms a.k.a. Blinks, NCTzens, Shawols, Exols, etc. and the unfortunate reality of what goes down in k-pop fandoms is that people’s lives can get ruined over pointless shit. An Egyptian ARMY who is a dental student in Egypt, was doxxed by Blinks four days ago for saying Yoongi dances better than Jennie. She’s had her living address, family address, faculty information, and medical conditions leaked by Blinks on Twitter. And one traced the leak to providing her information for a BlackPink album giveaway last year. We can joke about how these online fights are silly but ARMYs have seen enough to have more reasons against working with solos and akgaes, than they do to work with them.

It’s frankly not really about ego. It involves money and personal information and there’s real risk here.

Now, why did I say ARMYs are stupid? Because they opened an avenue to have this discussions publicly in the first place. Nothing good comes from hashing things out on the TL (there's too many eyes on the fandom), much less an issue as nuanced as this and even more so when ARMYs had already worked with Hobi and other member funding bases before on previous releases. (But on significantly smaller amounts and not directly through the largest ARMY funding bases.)

It’s not easy to explain all that in a tweet, and I doubt a lot of newer ARMYs even understand the real issues - I suspect many of them just move in a herd and think “solos bad” without fully understanding why it’s a bad idea to approach things the way solos suggested yesterday - so those ARMYs instead used nonsensical arguments like bringing up the Hanbok issue in early 2021, that solos want to take ‘credit’, and the ARMYs who have nowhere to tuck in their insecurities as it concerns Jimin (because there are definitely ARMYs - usually hyung-line and other maknae-line biases - who are extremely sensitive to any mention of how Jimin differs from the rest) let it all hang out yesterday.

Pre-2020, ARMYs would have shut down that argument on the TL as soon as it happened (and that’s if it would’ve happened in the first place), blocking solo stans which would’ve caused (pre-2020) solos to make cosplay accounts and deal with this all in DMs. It’s easier to develop trust and hold accounts accountable (lol) one on one. That’s one way the fandom did this in 2015 with Joon’s solo, in 2016 with Jimin’s Lie and other solos, and in 2020 (although for BE, solo stans tried to sabotage that release by boycotting the album… but like I said, these sort of changes started in 2020).

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The Exiles

I describe the Exiles as those within the fandom who think they’re not in the fandom. We’ve all seen them, in fact I suspect some of my followers are them - they’re people who constantly think the fandom makes them ‘look bad’ and so they don’t want to be associated with its label. Many of them are sympathetic to solo stan arguments though they wouldn’t call themselves solo stans and could even despise solos for the same reason they hate ARMYs. But at the end of the day, the Exiles still play a role. Because of course they do. Most of the Exiles today also joined the fandom around 2020, and many of them haven’t ever really participated fully in supporting a release, and so they don’t have a real understanding of what goes down, and why it’s a bad idea to do exactly what Jimin’s solos were publicly requesting yesterday. But these types are often very opinionated and just fanned the flames yesterday lmao. But the plus side is this group of people will end up being the bridge when D-day arrives. It’s what I saw happen with Hobi-biased people who don’t consider themselves part of ARMY, for On The Street.

The Takeaway

Consider that mess the dress rehearsal for Taehyung and Jungkook’s solo debut, and we have PJMs to thank for that. Taekook solos would have demanded ARMYs support either way, but now they have additional ammo thanks to PJMs and they’re significantly more in number than any other member’s solo stans. More vicious too. And the core of the fandom will be in worse shape by their debut in the sense that it will be more fragmented because I’m sure yesterday’s mess left a nasty dent on some more impressionable people. These kinds of things are bound to happen given the players that have become dominant in the fandom in the last three years. What I suggest is focusing on the small pockets of followers and friends within the fandom that you know and trust - whether you’re a solo stan, ARMY, or Exile. If you’ve never participated in buying/funding, ask those people questions. Get into the habit of streaming on multiple platforms, and for God’s sake learn how to resolve shit in the DMs.

Jimin will have a lot of competition on March 17th and 24th. The deck is already stacked against him. And maybe I’m weird but all that does is make me excited because whenever things are like this for Jimin, he just… he blows it all out of the water. Contrary to popular belief, most people in the fandom, whether they bias Jimin or not, actually love him. It’s impossible not to. And they will give this release everything they’ve got. I’m already seeing it happening, ARMYs just don’t advertise it publicly because all eyes, including journalists, are on the fandom. Focus on what you can control, find a group of people who love him as much as you do, and enjoy the music when it comes.

[babieken]

Hello hello here to explain the dpr situation

So if u mean Dabin (dpr live) he temporarily left dpr so he can drop music under a different label (new one that he made and manages), and he just dropped an album look it up it's so good 🤭 but he's in great terms w ian and the rest of dpr and they support him

Then there's dpr Rem who left in 2022 in very suspicious terms like it was so weird bcs no one from the team said anything he just left and that's it??? But now we've just found out he was stealing from them and that's why he left and shit kinda went down ngl 🙃

Dabin made some statements in his new album calling Rem out (WMP freestyle) and on a concert he did to celebrate the album dropping he chanted ayo fuck rem w the public 😭

And NOW Rem posted a "public apology" in twittter but it's absolute bullshit bcs he doesn't mention the money and only apologizes to dabin for whatever reason, not the rest of the team... bitch is a narcissist ig...

Anyway support dpr they're great I love them a lot!!!! Dabin just dropped an album, ian has a couple new singles on youtube and dpr artic is debuting soon! ❤❤❤

HE WAS DOING WHAT

STEALING FROM HIS OWM BANDMATES???????? BRO.... thats a whole new LOW....

All i saw abt this the other day was on twitter someome had quoted the apology statement (that i didnt read kdkdkd) and was making fun of the part where he said something like i found the right path thru god or something and op was like 'u mean by being cyberbullied?' Kdkfkdjfkd and also is his name Scott? I saw another tweet referring to a scott and how he didnt even do anything for the other members in terms of making music and stuff so theres really no redeeming him...

THE REM DISS IS SO FUNNY🤣🤣🤣🤣 WE STAN

[dotthings]

It truly is a prime comedic experience to see the same lane who shrieked that we were all crazy for thinking Dean would be important on TW now angry because they finally noticed that Dean is important on TW and how dare!!!!!

Remember how people said we were delusional, or we should lower our expectations, or they cackled on about how we’ll never see Dean again and it was all going to be meaningless.

Hey remember when that brosonly posing as a psuedo TFW stan said Jensen was a narcissist if he makes Dean important on TW? Then pretended they hadn’t insulted him for caring for his own character?

Put that with years of antis from the brosonly lane absolutely desperate to push Dean down on the mothership too. He’s “supporting” and Sam’s the true hero. And still dragging on that dialogue.

Put all that with antis alleging for years how Dean storylines allegedly tanked in ratings. Meanwhile Carver era had a big pickup in ratings and ratings were solid and Carver era made Dean and the MoC a four season arc. S8 was the groundwork. S9 was the Sam and Dean rift and Dean taking the mark. S10 was all about saving Dean from the mark. S11 was MoC aftermath. Dean and the MoC was the most unifying center engine plot of Carver era. And yet still dragging on that dialogue.

Put that with these antis’ current undying hatred towards Jensen for daring to see Dean as important.

Brosonlies and Jared stans are anti-Dean, anti-Jensen. They’re antis. They aren’t “bros fans,” because actual “bros fans” don’t, y’know, absolutely resent and despise one half of the bros.

There’s a reason there’s a rift between “J2 lane” and certain Jared stans.

There’s a reason why Dean/Jensen fans who usually don’t even get along, shippers, non-shippers, have found common ground while being bombarded with garbage from these antis.

Now their hate blogs and twitters are filled with malicious targeted bullying towards Jensen stan accounts just for existing. They’ll dogpile anyone who challenges them. They’ll take screenshots of accounts who are doing absolutely nothing wrong in a pathetic attempt to hold people up as evil or bad or terrible and it’s literally just fans being fans or fans shading hatred in some way.

It’s targeting identical to how they have gone after Destiel shippers and Cas fans and Misha fans for years.

The anti-Dean/Jensen part was always there, low key ticking time bomb, plenty of people saw through those veneers. It’s more open now is all.

They despise people for openly caring about Dean/Jensen.

They will lie and concern troll and accuse anyone who doesn’t buy into their concern trolling targeted bs.

They’re transparent af. They think their virtue signaling and their outrage is making them look like superior people, all it’s doing is exposing them for the antis they are.

Prequelgate didn’t cause this.

They were always like this, ticking away under the surface, treating Jensen and Dean as afterthoughts to Sam/Jared even on their best days, treating him with disdain on their worst. It used to be more veiled, that’s all.

Anyway, Dean is important and Jensen values Dean and he is allowed to value Dean. Dean antis are finished.

[sungbeam]

describe your favorite mutuals & their bias/biases <3

omg i always feel so much pressure for these cuz i have quite a handful of moots but i shall try my best !! thanks for ur ask anonie o7

@justalildumpling & na jaemin — both just uber delulu and mutual orgasm donors 😭😭 their astrology/horoscope reading says they'd be good for marriage, but i think WE r a much better match 😚 anyways, i love u j my beloved wife and soulmate !!

@jaehunnyy & jung wooyoung — bro i didn't know which teezer to pick for u 😭😭 but since the craze lately has been mr wooyo 😗 chip is just the sweetest and most wholesome bean ever?? (except lately 🤡 woosan is getting to her) but she deserves the absolute world

@winterchimez & lee sangyeon — my parents !!! absolutely adore ally :')) she's always encouraging my shenanigans and one of the most supportive people on this app. i feel like every day i learn that we have another thing in common w each other LOL

@ethereal-engene & lee jihoon — NO CUZ EKFNEKDK when i tell u ash looks like woozi (゜-゜) im not even kidding, they both look SO good in specs and i love ash sm, she GETS ME and im so convinced we're like actually long lost relatives 😭😭 the way she puts up w my shit and supports me all the time :')

@loveliestfelix & choi yeonjun — omg no because nana is supermodel material?? supermodel gf and bf say HUH???? her writing is something to fall head over heels in love w !! my beloved angst queen 🫂 ilysm im always thinking of u <3

@tranquilpetrichor & (i wanna say) yoon keeho??? — eris i just realized i don't really stan some of the groups u do and i haven't seen u talk abt ur biases recently 😔 SO PLS DO TELL ME ABT THEM !! but i wanted to include u here bc it didn't feel right without u 😭 but she's so underrated and one of the chillest people ever, and a literal ballerina like 😳 that shits hard bro

@zzoguri & ji changmin/kim sunwoo — MY FELLOW KYUBODAN MONI AHHWHDINEJDJD they are AMAZING at writing??? i guarantee u will fall in love w their style, and they're also just so easy to vibe w and talk to 🤧🤧 hope to get to know u even better bestie :'))

@haet-sal & ju haknyeon — CAKECEYYYYY 😩😩😩 ik the ship name is hakcey/hickey LMAO but cake 😎 anyways LMAO lacey is prob who i aspire to be?? 😭 like u guys don't understand how pretty this girl is and the fact that she's SO COOL TOO?? i feel like i'd be so intimidated by u irl tbh 😳

@goldenhypen & jake sim — my canadian counterpart and chinese 04 twin 💖💖💖 i miss u sm omg i will always uphold that em is one of, if not, THEE nicest person on this app. like if u touch her I HURT YOU 😐🔪 she is sooo so compassionate and caring and just wah i love u sm i hope ur doing alright :'))

@sseastar & byun euijoo (i think? im sorry i don't stan &team 😔) — yet another author here who's style of writing absolutely blows me away skdnkendk like the slice of life ghibli movie vibe of her writing makes me SING and she's also a very cool woman in stem™ </3 she's also so soft and sweet, and i only have the most tender of thoughts toward her

@hqrana & omg im so bad i know eric sohn for sure 😭 — we actually haven't talked about many other groups besides tbz and svt skdnekdk OKAY BUT MY MARVEL MOOT !!! i treasure noa so much, like what a star and the way we literally have so many fandoms in common??? for the longest time (and still) i look forward to interacting w her just cuz she is absolutely SO fun to talk to 💖 ly bff

[wyllzel]

my very correct TVD opinions now that i've finished S3 😃☝️

protags

Elena - I waffle between how much I like her and am annoyed by her, LOL, but given how much she herself waffles, that seems fair 😆 She's definitely at her best when she's providing a moral baseline (like "we can't kill all vampires just bc they're vampires, even if they do eat us humans"). It's interesting that her flaw is being indecisive bc (in her mind/words) making a decision means cutting off an avenue forever!! Which is most obvious in the whole Stefan-or-Damon dilemma... Yet she's also much too eager to sacrifice her own life... In many ways she's still the girl who preferred spending time among the dead at the cemetery instead of w her friends, back in S1E1 ;_; It's also really cool that she has a built-in foil who literally looks exactly like her – Elena being afraid to choose a brother bc choosing one means losing the other and Katherine refusing to choose a brother bc having the two wrapped around her finger means having power over them... Very interesting stuff...

Stefan - Bro I love Stefan 😭😭😭 S3 Stefan had me like 😃 though... I was not a fan of all the ~Rippah Era~ stuff, not bc it was character assassination but tbh it was just cringe LMAO and it was very obvious that he'd eventually regain control and come to his senses so the stakes didn't feel all that high lol 😆 He's so romantic and empathetic :') and I will admit that it was interesting to see that his grip on his control (for all his talk!!) was rly not that strong ;_; Seeing his ideals/hopes crumble against his reality was quite sad...

Damon - S1 Damon feels very different from S3 Damon LMAO which I think is partly character growth (watching Damon accept his propensity for care... chefs kiss 😩💗) and partly the writers leaning into Dalena and walking back some of Damon's darker tendencies LOL... Which I don't mind, I am very much NOT a fan of his eagerness to hypnotize/mind control women 😐👎 (tho i do acknowledge that that's classic vampire behavior lol) Anyway his instances of vulnerability do make me go 😱😱😭😭❤️❤️ so I am not immune to his charms LOL

Caroline - I LOVE CAROLINE!!! I'VE LOVED HER SINCE S1 IDC THAT SHE WAS "BITCHY"!!! (she was really just a normal teenage girl...) She has a lot of self-awareness and selflessness, and a lightness that some of the other characters have lost just bc they've all gone thru so much ;_; I love her relationship w Tyler in S2, when they were both new to the whole supernatural thing... Also she's such a badass!!! Love her combat scenes, even if she gets kidnapped more often than not haha

Bonnie - BONNIE 💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗 most OP character on the show - her powers are limited only by what the writers can think of / what the narrative requires 😳 (aka Atom Eve vibes) She is such a badass, and I love how even tho she's tired and sometimes frightened of her potential, she always steps up to help her friends ;_; Also - maybe controversial, but I love that she went behind everyone's backs to preserve Klaus, just to see if she could 😳 Watching her embrace her magic/powers and start pushing limits is really cool!!! I will forever stan idc❤️

antags

Klaus - LMFOAKAKDJWKDAAO I waver btwn wanting to punch him and laughing hysterically at him he is so silly. Literally the definition of wet and pathetic. He's like a tiny shaking lapdog that got dunked in lukewarm bathwater

Rebekah - She's a girlboss and I will always support women's wrongs 💗💗

others

Elijah - One of the hottest characters on the show idc he's giving paladin (HONOR 😩😩 OATHS 😩😩😩 ANGST 😩😩) and I am here for it ❤️

Katherine - Can she please fall off a cliff or something she is so annoying and cruel 😭

Alaric - Nothingburger. Bland. Middle-aged white man. Whatever

Jeremy - His actor is SO cute but his character is so "???" LOL I hated that he technically cheated on Bonnie after SHE BROUGHT HIM BACK FROM THE LITERAL DEAD!! but I did love his relationship with Anna so ;_; win some, lose some...

Matt - He has been through too much, just let him leave town and go to college PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE 😭

Tyler - HIS ACTOR... HOTTIE ALERT!!! Tyler is just doing his best ;_; His S3 plot was ACTUALLY diabolical, and then he gets inhabited by Klaus for the start of S4?????? How much more does he need to suffer????? Let him and Caroline enjoy being ultra powerful young adult supernatural creatures of the night hullo

anyway none of these people look/act like high schoolers LMFAO why couldn't they be in junior college or smth 😭🤦🏻‍♀️ it literally would barely change the plot LOLLL just have them be involved in more community activities instead of organizing prom and whatnot 🫠

my ideal endgame ships:

Damon x Elena - Their chemistry is excellent and I think Ghost!Rose was right... They're different enough that they're able to push one another's boundaries/perspectives 👀

Klaus x Caroline - I am not immune, he's sometimes hot yea 😔 He's cringe but his speech about whisking her away from the bubble of her smalltown life was 😳👀 And he's right tbh!!! She has so much time now, and so much to experience!! I think she and Tyler are good for one another in this stage of her life, but maybe not for the whole of it...

Stefan x Bonnie - Idk I see the vision 😳 I think they have a lot of potential in that they're both very mature/serious people w a lot of power at their fingertips, and they both try and fail to regulate their own power... Also witches and vampires being natural enemies... slay !! 🙈

jeremy and matt just need to get out of all of this before they die (again)

Matt x Rebekah is cute tho

And lowkey why did Jeremy and Tyler have chemistry back in S1 when they were each dating Vicki LMAO 🙈 let's bring that back...

[kenobster]

ALRIGHT YALL THE TIME HAS COME.

First, I would like to give all of the obikins a very large pat on the back. I mean, think of where we once were... barely hanging on..... almost shot out of the competition every single round..... even though we all KNOW that there are many Obikin shippers out there. Then we found out about it! And we fought to correct it! And look at the difference now!!!! :')

In short, we're fucking badasses yall.

ANYWAY, THIS IS MY CAMPAIGN SPEECH FOR WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE OBIKIN (EVEN IF YOU DON'T SHIP IT 😊)

Believe it or not, I myself do not ship Obikin in the slightest. :D I like Obi-Wan & Anakin as besties/bros only. But I support the fuck out of Obikin shippers because they are some of the nicest people in this entire fandom. ❤️

However, despite being such wonderful people, Obikins still receive a disproportionate amount of hatred. Even in this very poll, people have been name-calling, ship-shaming, and being general assholes toward the Obikins to an extent they have not been toward other ships (examples below — 😬 yikes!).

Why does this mean that Obikin should win while Codywan should lose? I'm so glad you asked! See, the thing is... you wanna know something about a huge proportion of the Obikin haters? Yeah, you guessed it! They're often Codywan shippers! (More yikes examples below 🙃). Obviously not all Codywan shippers are like this, but damn — the amount of antis within the Codywan community is deeply unsettling. 😬

In other words.... whether you ship Obikin or not... wouldn't it be super fucking funny if, after almost managing to get us voted out, these pro-censorship bitches had to swallow the fact that they fucking lost? 😂

Okay. So maybe you ship Codywan but you also don't like how your fellow peers have treated us. Well, my friend, please remember that this is a silly poll that doesn't mean anything. Voter bias continues to be rampant. 😅 So let's find some common ground over our shared love of Obi-Wan and make those dickheads up above pay. And after everything, I promise to literally bite anyone who tries to rub an Obikin victory in a kinder Codywan shipper's face. ❤️

APPEAL TO THE REYLOS:

Surprisingly, Codywanners are not the only passionate Obikin haters. Stormpilot/FinnPoe shippers absolutely share this hatred:

Why does this matter? Well, I would like to take this opportunity to seek out some third-party potential voters. In other words, REYLO SHIPPERS! I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN HOW THE STORMPILOT/FINNPOE SHIPPERS HAVE TREATED YOU IN THE PAST. Let these two similarly hated fandoms unite! Vote Obikin for us, and I PROMISE YOU — when it is Reylo's hour of need, I will personally ensure the Obikin fandom musters the Rohirrim and fights for you!!! ❤️

APPEAL TO ANAKIN STANS:

ANAKIN STANS, I KNOW YOU ARE OUT THERE SEEING THIS. I know you follow me in droves, and I am so very grateful for that. 🥰 If you love Anakin but don't ship him with Obi-Wan (or maybe don't even like Obi-Wan very much), you can still support us! Why? BECAUSE THESE BITCHES BE HATING ON YOU YOU, TOO! LOOK! 😩(Note that the ask on the right was sent to the OP in between rounds of this poll).

While both side's opinions on Obi-Wan might differ from time to time, the Obikin fandom loves Anakin with the same enthusiasm that YOU love Anakin. Please support us in our time of need. 🙏 😍

APPEAL TO REBELCAPTAIN SHIPPERS:

Jyn/Cassian shippers, I've been secretly rooting for you since I first started voting Obikin. To be totally honest, I am absolutely FLABBERGASTED that we beat you last round! This whole time, I've known that, if Obikin lost, I would've voted Rebelcaptain to the end! Why? Because out of all of the different shippers participating in this contest, you were the only fandom who didn't ceaselessly shit on the Obikin. Y'all are super awesome and probably aren't okay with ppl being mean. Honestly, I know my appeal to you is a weak one, but I can't put the situation any better than this one user put in their tags (hahaha):

FINAL APPEAL TO ALL SHIPS

If you private message me or send me an ask with a screenshot showing proof of your vote for Obikin in this poll, I commit to (within the next 2-3 months) writing a 100-word drabble for whatever your Star Wars OTP is (inclusive of the Obikin and Codywan ships).

I will only write one drabble per ship, but I will not be releasing the list of ships until after the poll's conclusion. Thus, the only way to know if your ship has been requested is to vote Obikin in the poll and send me that screenshot. :)

Since I am a super hardcore Star Wars fan and have consumed a LOT of legends and canon content, there are very few limitations to this offer. For example, I am familiar with ALL of the charcters within ships that have participated in all rounds of this poll. I am also familiar with characters beyond this poll, even ones only appearing in comics or books! If unsure, please feel free to ask if I'd be informed enough to write your ship (though, if you vote, I will give your OTP my best effort either way).

🥳 TLDR; VOTE OBIKIN! 🥳

P.S. I am sure I made typos in this post, especially in the image IDs beneath the read-more cut. This is unfortunately a one-woman show under an extremely time-sensitive thing lmao, so please show mercy. I promise I will show more attention to detali in my 100-word drabbles. :)

IMAGE IDS

First Image:

A series of three polls titled Best Star Wars Ship. In the first poll (titled Round Five concluded at 1,451 votes), Codywan finishes first place at 23.5%. Other ships (Stormpilot, Obikin, Scoundress, Rebelcaptain, Kanera, Dinluke, Kalluzeb) finish at percentages between 9.5% and 12.1% with Obikin at 11%. In the second poll (titled Round Six concluded at 1,995 votes), Codywan finishes first place at 20.9%. Other ships (Stormpilot, Obikin, Scoundress, Rebelcaptain, Kanera, Dinluke) finish at percentages between 10.5% and 16.3% with Obikin at 16.3%. In the third poll (titled Round Seven concluded at 2,927 votes), Codywan finishes first place at 17.8%. Other ships (Stormpilot, Obikin, Scoundress, Rebelcaptain, Kanera) finish at percentages between 16% and 17.3% with Obikin at 16.3%.

Second Image:

A series of three polls titled Best Star Wars Ship. In the first poll (titled Round Eight concluded at 3,005 votes), Obikin finishes first place at 22%. Other ships (Stormpilot, Rebelcaptain, Kanera) finished at percentages between 18.2% and 19.4%, and Codywan finished at 21.5%. In the second poll (titled Round Nine concluded at 3,164 votes), Obikin finishes first place at 26.7%. Stormpilot finished at 21.7%, Rebelcaptain finished at 25.9%, and Codywan finished at 25.7%. In the third poll (titled Round Ten concluded at 3,309 votes), Obikin finished first place at 39.6%, Codywan finished at 37.8%, and Rebelcaptain finished at 22.6%.

THIRD IMAGE (GENERAL OBIKIN HATE):

Screenshots of five users' reblog tags of and one user's comment on the miscellaneous rounds of the poll. First user's tags: "#we cannot let obikin win." Second user's tags: "#can't believe ob*kin will not be defeated 💀." Third user's tags: "#this poll is giving me fucking hives i hate all of you people #polls #the obikin sweep on this makes me actively violent every time i see it good lord." Fourth user's tags: "#19% of YALL SHPI OBIKIN??!?!?! ELECTRIC CHAIR WITH A BUILTIN GUILLOTINE." Fifth user's tags: "#i don't care who wins i jus tneed obikin to lose #star wars #anti obikin." The one user's comment: "why ob*kin is even an option."

FOURTH IMAGE (CODYWAN'S OBIKIN HATE):

Screenshots of eight users' reblog tags of miscellaneous rounds of the poll. First user's tags: "#i need everyone following me to vote either codywan or rebelcaptain. i don't care which i just need ob*kin to lose #please. #PLEASE." Second user's tags: "#yeah I voted codywan but now im saying VOTE REBELCAPTAIN #LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT" (15 hours ago - which is relevant because the only other option in the poll at that time was Obikin). Third user's tags: "#finnpoes let's combine forces with codywan #to defeat the obikins." Fourth user's tags (who reblogged from codywanweek): "#before i was voting to save contenders with less loyalty #now i just want codywan to win #sorry kanera 😭 #not a fan of obikin still being in the running." Fifth user's tags: "#YALL BETTER CHOOSE CODYWAN I STG MY CODYWAN FANART DIDNT HAVE A RESURGENCE TO HAVE IT LOOSE TO OBIKIN COME ON GUYS 💪💪💪💪." Sixth user's tags: "#I don't like whose winning #I love codywan but I gotta vote for finnpoe #for reference obik*n was winning when I reblogged this #love finnpoe." Seventh user's tags (who reblogged from codywanweek): "#codywan nation plz don't let obikin win #polls." Eighth user's tags (who reblogged from codywanweek): "#how did hanleia loose to fucking #lek* obikin *shudders*."

FIFTH IMAGE (REYLO APPEAL):

Screenshots of eight users' reblog tags of miscellaneous rounds of the poll. First user's tags (who reblogged from codywanweek): "#we lost stormpilot RIP #WE CANNOT LET OBIKIN WIN #vote codywan #or rebelcaptain." Second user's tags: "#finnpoe #stormpilot #why the fuck is near incest winning." Third user's tags: "#finnpoe losing to obikin ?? ? this is wrong. guys." Fourth user's tags: "#finnpoe clowns its time to come together 🤡🤡🤡🤡 #together we can defeat ob*kin" Fifth user's and sixth user's tags are the same but are taken in the same screenshot showing that they are two different people. Those tags are "#FINNPOE CLOWNS I REFUSE TO LOSE TO OBIKIN."

SIXTH & SEVENTH IMAGES (ANAKIN STAN APPEAL):

Screenshot on Left (Sixth Image): Screenshots of eight users' reblog tags of miscellaneous rounds of the poll. First user reblogged from Tumblr user antianakin with these tags: "#BEAT OBIKIN! I DON'T CARE WHO WINS AS LONG AS OBIKIN LOSES!" Second user reblogged from Tumblr user antianakin with these tags: "#polls #I DONT CARE I NEED O**KIN TO LOOSE."

Screenshot on Right (Seventh Image): Screenshot of an anonymous ask stating "If you're still looking for controversial SW opinions. I know it's silly but I'm really tired of Anakin/Vader content. I'm interested somewhat in his character but I'm getting really bored. There's so many other characters that should be getting content but aren't! I just never really latched onto him and I'm tired of seeing him."

EIGHTH IMAGE (REBELCAPTAIN APPEAL):

Screenshot of a tumblr user's tags reblogged from jessequinnfirstofhername (OP of the poll). Tags state "#vote obikin y'all the codywan team is really mean for some reason 😔."

The Only Important Rule To Remember:

When there are only two ships remaining, they will face off against one another in a week-long poll to determine the victor.

Sadly, we must bid goodbye to Rebelcaptain. Allow me to salute all of the wonderful, dedicated Rebelcaptain fans who fought so valiantly for them. You got them into the final three! 🫡

…and then there were two.

This. Is. It.

It’s the battle of the Obi-Wan ships.

Will the winner be Obikin?

Or will it be Codywan?

Cast your votes for the last time to decide, once and for all... what is the best Star Wars ship of all time?

...oh, but remember, this is all just for fun! So don't take it too seriously ;)

Happy voting, and may the best ship win!

[ilyuu-archive]

if we were dating my shoulder would always, always be touching yours whenever we sit next to each other, and just close enough where the tips of our fingers rest atop the others. I'd take the initiative in conversations and social interactions immediately once they're brought up, but I'd always quietly hype you up by squeezing your hand if you ever decide to take the reigns for yourself. id hold you close to my chest or shoulder whenever you're doubting yourself, and I'd sit there in silence with you until you're ready to talk.

h..HELLO?? IM SORRY FOR MY LANGUAGE BUT WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU TO COME IN HERE AND ACT ALL CUTE AND SUPPORTIVE??

bro we are not gonna talk about how half of this things got me giggling into my blanket rn

anyways stan this anon <3 /j /lh

[roccinan]

1/n ha, it's funny cause I'm actually not a football fan... idk if you've heard of it but the Cricket World Cup is going on this month and I was also thinking of the hermanos and the thought of them + sports made me remember your headcanons (asdfjsk not to sound weird again but i also like to think i remember almost~ everything you've written on them and let me tell you, i love all of it) but anyway the idea bit me and wouldn't let go so I wrote it on an impulse :P Too bad they're not cricket fans but ah, it's not for everyone

2/n Again, thank you for all the kind words, I only hope it didn't disappoint 😅 and yes of course i was always pleased and thrilled and over the moon by your fics/hc's!! your fics will always have a special place in my heart cause most fics have a focus on serquel or berlermo and it was always just a "side" helping of the hermanos uk? but you always made sure to give that bond andrés & sergio share its importance, to me they are the heart of the show and you always capture that so wonderfully in your fics, that's one of my favourite things <33 also, I treasure all our exchanges about the hermanos too, the last one abt hermanos redux au really left a deep impression on me and... i'm sorry i keep disappearing and reappearing like a pendulum ahh, i have my reasons but somehow, the hermanos and you always have that corner in my heart that i can never forget!

I love answering you, my beloved hermanos stan <3 Again, thank you so much for that lovely fic- I'll definitely get back to you with a longer comment soon! haha, I'm honored the Cricket World Cup (which no, I hadn't heard of it! that's cool trivia) made you think of my headcanons. Not weird at all- in fact, I'm flattered you remember my hermanos musings :'D LOL I can see Andres pretending to know a thing or two about Cricket, but they're most likely just casual football watchers.

It didn't disappoint at all! Loved it all the way through, and was not expecting that punch at the end (loved it to bits though!). Made me over the moon to read as well :D AH again, thank you so much for the kind kind words >< LOL I do know- as much as I love those ships too, there's just something different about putting the spotlight on the hermanos instead ;) So I'm really happy my fics managed to capure that for you!

Aww, I'm glad you feel the same way! I definitely remember our exchange about hermanos redux too :D haha no need to apologize- as you can see, disappearing and reappearing at the drop of a hat is the default for all of us here XD You don't need to explain yourself to anyone, and I'm just happy whenever you're back! AH, so honored to have that corner :')

3/n You know, one thing that always touched me was how you said when you wrote anything hermanos related, you had me in mind.💓 like i said i wanted to give back a fraction of what you've given the fandom (& me) + that was my exact thought process reversed this time, i already knew there wouldn't be much of an audience for a strictly platonic duo like these two and i don't mind BUT i knew i had atleast 1 fellow hermanos fan in you <33 (it was also powered by a little spite that we seem to be getting none of the hermanos or berlermo backstory in the spinoff but instead more of those r*fael prototypes 😭)

For sure!! Every time I write about the hermanos, I have you mind :D You have no idea how much you've encouraged me to keep writing/thinking about them with your support! This is honestly so sweet of you, and trust me when I say knowing you read and enjoyed my stuff was enough gift for me (and it should be me thanking you for all the lovely comments!). That said, we may be few and far between, but at least we have each other (and our small group of dedicated hermanos pals!) so I'll always be happy to enjoy the bros with you. LOL I feel the SAME way- no hermanos and no berlermo, but somehow more Rafaels and characters nobody cares about!! (asdasdf I like how you censored his name)

Anyway, you can only publish the first ask if you want, the rest is just me rambling fhsjshsj, again thank you so much for being kind and being you and I'm vvv grateful to share my love of hermanos with you too! (PS The El Caballero cameo was another one of my brainwaves, the mystery of Andrés from Corners really stuck with me and sighhh, that would be my ideal berlin spinoff but that's what fic is for! thank you for letting me borrow him too and i hope he wasn't OOC, i was nervous abt the whole set up cause I'm not a thief ofc but i tried my best XD )

haha I loved your rambles and they really made my day! (asdfad lol I'm also the last to judge on rambling- that's what 90% of my "writing" blog is about). Thank you for all the kind words and having me on your brain, and of course, for coming back :D I'm so grateful to have found a fellow hermanos fan in you too!! (Corners has a special place in my heart too and the one I put the most of my Andres headcanons-- which might or might not disproven now lol?--into; honored that you think it would be your ideal berlin spinoff!! So thank you so much for the shoutout to Corners, and he wasn't "ooc" at all- you captured him and his relationship with Andres perfectly, exactly as I imagined!! And you're a wonderful writer to boot!)

[gladiolidiaries]

Drusic IS cringe like sorry but I will forever stand on the hill that if it wasn’t Dream singing the songs 99% of his stans wouldn’t be listening to it anyways. And we know snf’s music taste of course they wouldn’t actually listen to Dreams music in diff circumstances but they ARE supportive like y’all get your Drolo demons over a little comment when they say “who cares” and “you’re an idiot” or “shut up” to literally everything even serious matters.

bro relax the drolo demons were there for 5 seconds and we literally all agree with snf on that.