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I fought for like 20 years or something close to it fiercely against One Piece and now I am part of the hivemind
#one piece#zosan#frobin#zoro#sanji#robin#franky#i'm having fun okay#also this is NOT an invitation to start like#any kinda shipping discourse#i am thirty or forty years old and i do not need that#just let me put my fictional characters together like dolls#leymeme
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Sorry, but saying Tommy is the reason Buddie ain’t together is straight up taking Buck’s agency away from him. HE is the reason they aren’t together. Because Tommy is the one he likes and wanna be with rn
I meant in terms of the story, not in terms of the universe.
Yeah in the universe Buck has chosen Tommy to be with rn, he likes him and wants to be with him and I'm enjoying their dynamic (my problems with Lou's acting and some of his dialogue aside), but i do believe that storytelling wise Tommy is very much a stepping stone to Buddie. He's a midgame relationship for Buck to explore his sexuality, and find peace with that side of himself that he's never thought to explore before. and I like Tommy as that stepping stone, he's an interesting character.
Tommy as a character (not a a person in the 9-1-1 universe) is just there as a barrier and a stepping stone towards Buck's endgame, and that's okay, it's good. The show needs a reason for Buck to not go straight to Eddie after realising his sexuality, and I'm enjoying Tommy as that reason. but his character very much is a plot device.
It would be boring if Buck had just realised he was bi and launched straight into a relationship with Eddie, and that's not even discussing the Eddie side of things. (i.e. his catholic guilt being the reason he isn't going to buck... or even realising/accepting his sexuality)
I watch shows from a very analytical view point, I have a media studies degree and it's hard to switch off and honestly i don't want to. I like how i watch the shows i'm interested in. I like trying to figure out where the puzzle pieces will land, what the show runners are planning and the roles the characters have in the stories and arcs to push them to their conclusion.
Tommy and Buck are fictional characters they're plot devices they aren't real humans. so I can't take their agency away from them when discussing their stories, because they don't have agency, because they are puppets and dolls being played by the showrunners and writers.
#yeah#if i were talking real people it would be taking away bucks agency to say that tommy is a reason for no buddie currently but...#im not#anyway this is my take on everything#i don't wanna be part of any shipping discourse#like... i want buddie#it feels like the logical conclusion for the show and has felt like that since season 2#but i will honestly be okay with things in between if they feel like they fit#which is why i kinda hated like.... natalie and taylor for but#the logic and flow wasn't there with the storytelling#same with marisol#for eddie#911 spoilers#buddie#911#911 abc#911 show
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fandom ask game
22.) Give us a headcanon for Akito.
➥ OK, i don’t care that in canon it is his specialty—i refuse to believe that akito can actually beat box. he’s just made it up at some point when somebody asked and word got around to an. why do you think he always dodges when kohane/an asks him too? because after he said he was good at it, he did it in front of toya and even tho toya tried really hard to convince akito it was alright, akito could tell that toya knew it was not good and akito knows he can never do it again. he is hoping that kohane and an will forget.
3.) NoTP?
➥ personally i don’t see toya x either tenma happening romantically (even tho i do like childhood friends to lovers) so i don’t really like seeing that. i don’t consider it taboo, they’re just not ships i’d ever consume content for.
➥ i also don’t really like akito x tsukasa or rui. i do think with the right premise i wouldn’t mind it, but the way they’ve interacted in canon so far doesn’t do it for me. especially since it’s usually written as akito thinking one of them is SUPER HOT and even tho he hates it he still ends up making out with them. maybe it’s just my acespec ass but i just do not see that? like i said, i will read for pretty any ship as long as i feel like there’s a basis for it besides “they’re horny/want to make out.” there’s absolutely nothing wrong with just liking a ship because it’s your two favs or you just find it aesthetically pleasing and you just want them to kiss, that’s just not really how i personally like to approach shipping.
➥ i also don’t love pjsk ships as much if it’s like dating your sibling’s partner/bff? for example, toya x ena. they’re just kinda a weird vibe to me but maybe that’s just because i can’t imagine dating one of my friends’ siblings or one of my brother’s friends. i’m sure it happens irl tho ¯\_(_ _ )_/¯
#ask game#asks answered#akito shinonome#akito posting#shipping mention#shipping discourse#?#idk it’s kinda like shipping critical?#people can do what they want as long as they keep it tagged and in the appropriate spaces#nothing i’ve discussed here is really a problem but i do think that people put some things in the main tags that really don’t belong there#if you want me to elaborate on any of this i can i’m just throwing my opinions out there#pjsk#prsk
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ok yea i need to put pro kink back in my pinned.. its a pain i even need to but anti kink people following me is annoying LOL
#wishy speaks#its like#u would Hate me if i was more open abt certain things#and i know i cant expect all my followers to be people id get along with but itd be nice to not suddenly get a dm saying like#hey i cant trust you to not be a complete fucking freak anymore. bye#actually happened when i changed my url btw#like cool man. i do not care#just unfollow and block quietly go away!!#sheesh#ok rant ova#actually adding more tags#i kinda forget sometimes that not everyone is based#far from it actually. on this hellsite#like i step outside of my mutual circle and WOW i cannot stand literally any of you people!#and i Hate saying discourse words i hate shipping discourse especially#but i am ok with saying pro kink. bc kink comes with the whole risk aware consenting adults assumption#and anyone trying to imply kink is anything But risk aware consenting adults is in bad faith#still..annoying that i even have to#tumblr users have a little faith in other people's autonomy challenge?#and yes i Am hoping the person i just blocked sees this. i can be a petty little bitch as a treat. i have a headache i am allowed a treat
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i feel like. if ur gonna make a ship list guide but then exclude ships u don’t approve of it isn’t really a good guide. more just like “list of jrwi ships i personally approve of” like u can not like incest that’s fine but. u didn’t need to make a whole new list that’s just ships ur okay with
Buddy in the nicest way possible, I’m not cherry picking ships I “approve of” , there’s plenty of ships on here I don’t like . I removed One incest ship bc a good amount of people obviously didn’t want to see that . I don’t think it’s that big of a deal that I excluded it, I mostly added “comprehensive” to be silly but I guess I could change it to “incomplete” ? I’m sure there’s tons of niche ships not included so it can’t technically be fully comprehensive, but idk man
#baby’s first tumblr discourse#what do y’all think#I might change the list title idk#I’m not trying to start any drama#I kinda just want this to be done and over with#why can’t everyone just be normal and not ship incest lmao#lowkey making me anxious lol#tw incest#asks#text post
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#not to sound like a broken record#i know this has already been talked about a lot in current fandom discourse#but all the tommy love also comes from a place of#misogyny (buck’s m/f relationships failed bc the women weren’t good enough. but his first m/m is perfect and destined and tommy is god)#(even though we know next to nothing about them as a couple. cough 1 kiss and 1 failed date cough cough)#and biphobic concepts (buck’s only relationship/partner that is worth shipping and love and fandom time is the m/m one)#(if he’s with a woman he’s not worth our time? the relationship/partner isn’t worth our time. right?)#some people kinda sounding like the conservative haters right now#oliver stark’s voice shouting from afar: he isn’t gay! he is bisexual! he still likes women!#some people like to celebrate bi buck (as we should) but then erase his previous gfs#in favour of this 1 man he’s shared literally 4 scenes with. okay#<- <- <- i drafted this like 6 hours before that interview came out. ollie came to back me up with the ‘he still likes women’ lmao#him dating a guy now does not erase or dismiss his previous m/f relationships or that he’s still into women#one final comment. any time buck got with a girl it was ‘they need to break up immediately’#‘she’s not right for him’#he’s with his first guy and it’s ’they should be endgame’#‘they’re perfect together’#huh?? one. we barely know tommy/them together#two. what exactly makes them endgame material? bc they’re both men? cough biphobic misogyny fetishization cough#three. it would be objectively hilarious if he realises his sexuality and within 2 weeks is dating a guy for the first time#and then that guy ends up being his endgame forever partner. lmaoooo that would be so dumb sawry#not to mention it would kinda lean into the biphobia and misogyny mentioned above#in that it would suggest that his problem with finding love previously was… women#and this problem is now magically fixed because… man#four. not to be a buddie endgame truther but if all the vocal support means this is what we get instead#instead of Them. i’m out see ya bye bye#i am sooooo reading way too much into this but oh well
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So glad people are seeing that Izzy is supportive of who Ed wants to be, as proven by his statement to Ed in 2.07 about following what makes him happy, what feels good, and that Izzy’s brushing off Ed’s “feels like a storm’s coming” is because:
1. Izzy is wasted coming to confront Ed, that doesn’t tend to lead people to be super non-abrasive especially if they have previous severe trauma with the other person, caused by the other person. He’s not super receptive to Ed’s advice. Ed rarely listens to his. Do we know if Izzy would have still rejected Ed’s advice about the storm if Ed had provided something other than a feeling? (actually, additionally, 2.06 is about Izzy learning to trust his feelings and that they’d lead him somewhere safe. The last time we see him with Ed the next episode — the next day — is him saying ‘trust your feelings’ as opposed to the beginning of the episode when Izzy —allbeit drunk— was brushing them off.)
2. because his previous job was to provide pushback and alternatives for Edward. sure, he should also believe him (although i’m sure an amount of trust has been broken in that relationship and ed just got out of a time period where his judgement -to Izzy- was severely compromised) but if a first mate believes anything and everything you say without any pushback, you have negative outcomes. Plus, even though Ed was right that things are gonna get fucked up, he was actually moping at that moment. Ed wasn’t giving Izzy any concrete evidence anything was happening, just “feeling” like a storm is coming, unlike the cloud shapes in 1.04, its not based in a reality that Izzy is perceiving. (Also see above in Izzy’s lesson from 2.06 being that sometimes things feel right or wrong and that leads to him being supportive ultimately of whatever Ed chooses for himself.)
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Also that Stede doesn’t love Ed for who he is right now, distinct from Izzy who does love Ed for who he is right now. (I’m not sincerely making the argument that Stede doesn’t love Ed for who he is, this is just exactly how Edward feels currently) Izzy still loves Ed so clearly that he’s encouraging Ed to do whatever makes him happy instead of trying to make Ed do something he doesn’t want (piracy) unlike Stede who is telling Ed who he should be, who he is, and that is someone Stede wants to be with. Izzy is also trying to comfort Stede and tells him openly that he thinks Stede and Ed balance eachother out, and all he wants is for Ed to be happy, and he didn’t realize Stede was healthy for Ed before but now he does and he’s supportive. When he knew something or someone was better for Ed, he went out of his way to both keep it safe, and bless the union, even if it didn’t entirely make sense to him, he’s learning things don’t always make sense to everyone and that doesn’t invalidate them.
And Ed is a complicated man (to others) who is simple (to himself). Mostly because he struggles to communicate with the people around him about how he’s feeling and why he’s feeling that way. He’s never told Izzy why he shot him, how is Izzy supposed to know? Ed’s behavior looks contradictory to everyone on the outside and it’s only because we are granted access to Ed’s internal world that we know why he does things. To someone not being told, that would be confusing. (As far as the average viewer goes, people who dig into Ed and his character and study him would likely know his motivations without being so directly told) To us, he’s not complicated because he’s not being contradictory. Also, Izzy has a very small amount of emotional intelligence (he’s working on it), but he is trying to reassure Stede, and what’s better proof that Edward is complicated than his relationship with Izzy?
Currently as it stands, Izzy is the one pushing for Ed to be who he wants to be, whatever that is (—not to separate Ed and Stede, but because he wants what makes Ed feel the best and who Ed feels he should be—) and Stede is the one telling Ed who he is and who he isn’t. (“you’re not a fisherman!”) Because he thinks he knows who Ed is better than Ed does and it’s paralleling Izzy’s statement from 1.10/his general sentiment.
Even if Ed is meant to be a pirate, he has to come to that conclusion on his own away from people telling him who he should be and who he is. In this case. Izzy is providing healthier advice to Ed because he’s not worried about keeping him close the way Stede is.
In conclusion I would like people to not tell me who I should or should not be shipping. If I want to ship edizzy or steddyhands I can. And I wouldn’t even be doing it because it’s not healthy. Edizzy could end up being healthy with the trajectory they’re on— Ed’s taking responsibility, Izzy’s not trying to dictate Ed’s identity— and they do care about eachother. If anything, these past episodes have proven to me that Izzy will love Ed no matter who he decides to be. That’s the vibe I got. I still think Stede cares about Ed and with help from Izzy who went through a similar thing with Ed, he can work on the issues arising. He has to also learn to let something go.
Steddyhands is not at all unrealistic or unhealthy (if we are applying all these lenses to it and obv it would be tumultuous and rocky but I find those relationships more compelling personally) inherently because of Izzy’s presence.
Edizzy is a perfectly acceptable ship whether or nor you prefer them in their toxic marriage or their ex-ex-divorcee status learning who eachother are outside of the narrow scope of piracy and realizing those are still people the other can love. It can be both!
Edizzy was, after all, intended to be read as a form of love story, so it’s not going against the narrative to ship it.
edit: also will add it’s obviously fine to not ship edizzy for any reason at all
dni if you’re here for an argument
#ofmd s2#izzy hands#edizzy#the izcourse#discourse#steddyhands#i’m reluctant to tag any other characters.#ok. i will#but i dont want an argument even if it would be in good faith#ultimately just don’t tell me who i should or should not be shipping#stede bonnet#ed teach#kinda stede bonnet critical#i guess?#i don’t know if tagging criticism of the main two is done a lot
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Ok so it looks like ship charts have been going around and not too long ago, I made my own cause I noticed the other one didn’t have a lot of the characters and I wanted one that did. I finally finished adding my own lines tonight (I also added Comeau, Jason Kim, Sandra and Monique cause I forgot to add them when I originally made this) so here’s my easy to digest opinions on the different ships!
Don’t feel offended if your OTP isn’t a top pairing for me and it’s in something like ‘it’s ok’. I respect that you like it, its just not my thing. if it’s a ship you hate in one of the top spots, well be respectful please and thank you :]
Also if I forgot a ship, I’m sorry it didn’t cross my head while making this. Just tell me which one and I’ll respond with what line I would have put.
(Blanks and the different layers under the cut cause my god its a mess)
Also bonus logoless version if you want it :D
Ok bye! Have fun making your own with my blanks if you want to, just link to this post or credit me if you do please and thank you ;]
#you can tell I’m a multishipper just by looking at this#if anyone wants me to explain my reasons for certain ones I’ll do so just ask which one and I’ll explain :]#btw#sorry no is my respectful way of saying I don’t like it#there is a scale to it as I absolutely do not ship any of the canon gay characters with the opposite sex to them cause thats not cool#I didn’t include knives and Tamara cause they are seventeen and we all know what type of line is going to be drawn#(spoiler it’s as friends and sorry no cause they are 17 and shouldn’t be dating adults)#also apologies for my kinda trash handwriting it can be hard to read sometimes#I had fun making this#btw I’m a bit nervous posting this cause I don’t like shipping discourse at all (I come from the st fandom pls I’d like to be in peace here#and I mainly ship nordegrim and occasionally enjoy the others)#scott pilgrim#ship stuff#ship chart
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Hi V! You don’t have to answer this if it makes you uncomfy but could you maybe elaborate on the pr0ship part of your pinned post? /genq /nm I’m just super curious what your stance is on the topic and what you’re uncomfy with :0
Hi anon! This is a perfectly fine question to ask since you’re being reasonable and polite lol. But basically, I’m extremely uncomfortable with lots of problematic media. I can’t stomach most dead dove content and I generally block people over it if it happens to pop up on my timeline.
For example, lots of the “dark romance” books people over on TikTok and Instagram enjoy are things that leave me disgusted and even physically sick. But I won’t exactly voice that disgust in public nor would I like… harass or shame anyone over it unless they were a genuine threat to real people (and even then, I still won’t harass them since that would put me at risk. I’d probably just bring awareness and be like “hey, maybe stay away from this person” and leave it there).
I just like to mind my own business and curate my own experience, you know? Since engaging in shit that makes me sick will only make me feel worse. There are tags and a block button for a reason, use them and make your experience online better! /gen
And this isn’t even taking into consideration that “problematic” as a scale differs from person to person. I can stomach portrayals of dark topics if they’re not romanticized but some may not be the same and that’s fine.
I just added that portion to my pinned to make people aware of my stance. So if you happen to be on any side and you make me uncomfortable, you’ll know the reason why I blocked you. Whenever I block people, there’s no harsh feelings about it (unless, again, you’re actually a shit person). I just block freely to make a safe space for me and yeah :]
This is a very nuanced topic that deserves lots of care and energy. Care that I do have, but energy I don’t have enough of. It’s draining and I honestly have better things to do
#꒰ v’s answered asks ꒱#lowkey had to edit a bit of the pinned post because of this question LOL#pleaseee do not put me into any label when it comes to this discussion#I just really wanna distance myself away from shipping discourse since everything about it makes me uncomfy#I don’t agree with harassing people#but I also don’t like dark media that’s portrayed to be romanticized or sexualised#I guess I’m kinda just immune to the discourse due to being on AO3 a lot y’know? /hj#I’ve been conditioned to just block and move on#and it’s honestly very healthy to do that IMO#It’s just me setting a boundary. That’s all :P#I hope this wasn’t worded badly otherwise my ass is going to be labeled as a bad guy for no reason again 💀#I keep editing this to add mor stuff#I’m gonna stop now
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Shipping
I might be kicking a a hornets nest or two...
Shipping is meant to be fun and a lot of people put a lot more merit into shipping than it needs to be.
That said, shipping isnt the be all end all of fandom. If you're only in a fandom because of shipping, you may want to rethink why you enjoy the media.
As well, if your interest in a show drops because a ship you like or want to be canon isnt canon or going the way you want, you may need to re-evaluate why you're watching a show.
Shipping wars are terrible and I really wish people could just enjoy shipping as a fun thing and quit making it a job or some sort of moral failing. Its fine for people to not like the same ship as you, what's not fine is going out of your way to make people miserable because of it.
Proship/anti-ship discourse is fucking insane and has no place within shipping communities despite what everyone thinks.
And finally, if you find yourself looking for shipping discourse to insert yourself into, step away from it and re-evaluate what you're doing. Shipping is supposed to be fun, not stressful or hurtful.
#asks#yes I'm a shipper#but the media I have ships for are kinda few#rwby voltron avatar and she-ra are really the only media I have any ships for#all other ships I enjoy in other media tend to be more of a 'I like their dynamic' over anything else#and by god do I hate the discourse that comes around shipping#its never ending#so I stay out of it#I ship what I ship and that's that
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It kinda sucks how Optimus Prime is a character who people (in real life) expect to be so Indubitably Good All The Time that they immediately shut down and refuse to acknowledge him whenever he does bad things or fucks up. Like I don't think I've seen any other character in this fandom get the same instantly negative reaction/never talk about him ever treatment that IDW Optimus gets.
Like, it's either him being a cop or the annexation of Earth. But instead of actually engaging with the story and going "so how does being a cop affect the way he treats and is treated by others" or "what led Optimus to annex Earth and how is this a reflection of his ultimately heroic ideal to treat organics as equal to Cybertronians despite the historical racism of his species"
people just instantly shut down and go "oh he's an asshole, he's stupid, he's not my Optimus, he's a bastard, he's edgy" etc etc and refuse to even like fuckin talk about him
It's so incredibly childish lmao especially when the IDW1 continuity in particular is already rife with characters who are also assholes that do stupid/regrettable things but people have no problems talking about/analyzing their stories.
My kingdom for a fandom that's willing to talk about IDW Optimus without immediately shutting down and just going "he's bad he's a bastard he sucks"
#squiggposting#discourse#idw op love#it's very annoying and kind of why i don't try to talk about him as much as i used to#i'm kinda tired of bracing myself for negative reactions every time#and tired of the general fandom silence about him#worse than hating them ppl also seem to make an active effort to ignore or to erase him#and it's the spite of that. like it's one thing to just not be interested or not care#but it's another to actively shun and ignore and erase him#it's not even just the cop thing either. ppl refuse to engage with any idw op specific lore that isn't like....#idk his relationship with sen. SW? but that's for shipping purposes#of course ppl care about OP lore when it's time to ship him with someone else#but how many people care about IDW OP for who he actually is? hardly any#even w/ continuity soup people take out the cop part they dislike but they never try to write idw op's personality#so like it's not just cop hate. ppl just genuinely don't like idw op's personality or care about him in general#which i have to ask why the hell not because this is literally a feral and flawed prime that people keep saying they want#people keep saying they want an OP who isn't universally beloved and gets criticized for his hypocrisy and stuff#IDW OP IS RIGHT HERE WAITING FOR YOU TO ENJOY#ppl just genuinely can't stand the idea of an OP who's a real person and not just Inoffensive Fun Dad or Sad Woobie
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Bounced back and forth, think I'll just make this post-
(Warning: Under the read more, if tumblr keeps the read more intact, is me, an aromantic/aegofictosexual person ramble-ranting about aroaceness in fandom. You're free to scroll past if you wish, or to disagree with me on whatever takes for whatever reason, this is just my one opinion on something I consider to be a big pet peeve of mine.)
(If you read this and go "but I don't do that!", then I trust you, and you're not the kind of person I'm talking about. I'm moreso referring to some things I've personally either witnessed or experienced in previous fandoms, and nobody this applies to will actually see this post unless it, like, gets a bajillion notes...um, hopefully.)
It is so. fricking. frustrating. having my only possible representation in media be like...[that one character] from DR. You know. the otaku or "geek" that's portrayed to be unattractive, "gross", and "weird", and will eventually express sexual attraction to "3D" people, because their attraction to and obsession with 2D was never a sexuality, but intended to be some creepy, incomprehensible thing, and a way to demonstrate their shortcomings and inability to actually court someone.
Characters who actually match my sexuality and experience will never exist unless I make them with my own hands, because both allos and other aces consider me "not ace enough".
This honestly plays a big part in why I'm really touchy about aroace headcanons; because often times they're blatantly used to say people aren't allowed to ship [character a] with [character b] -- and the person making the headcanon is usually 100000% fine with [character a] being put in a gay ship, but will loudly complain if they see them featured in the (usually het, usually canonically teased) first ship. Because it was never about actually writing an aroace character, it was about reframing "ewwww you like THAT ship?? gross uxu what's wrong with you??" into "uhhhmmmm but that character's aroace-coded" "sorry, I can't see them as anything other than aroace" (yeah, I didn't ask? Everyone else gets to talk about THEIR ships with that character and you enthusiastically support them...) And it's like... I feel like these types of headcanons specifically are always presented like, inherently, I'm totally, obviously going to agree with them, and if I don't, then clearly I'm just not aroace. (I wish that was more of a dramatization, but I had someone who I previously told my seuxality to go "oh. well. I'm asexual, so I see this character as aroace-coded, (and I'm right)" <- not outright said but very, very heavily implied, especially because they continuously insisted the character was "canonically aroace-coded", and I just had to sit there like... "...okay, but I'm aroace. (and I think saying that about a clearly het-intended character that's constantly being flirted and canonically shipped in extra side materials with is kinda hurtful)" <- I didn't say that part)
And the fact that no one respects if a character is canonically het or bi kind of plays into why I don't care when a character is canonically gay or ace. If everyone's sexuality is just "gay (MAYBE ace!!!)" or "okay but have you CONSIDERED they might be bi??? (stop putting them in het ships >:((( )" only when it's convenient, then why should I care for my downtime? It doesn't change canon. And I don't feel represented by people's on-the-whim, flimsy-as-fuck headcanons.
But it does still piss me off when people take a reboot or remake or continuation and flagrantly disregard a character's canon sexuality.
And it's upsetting that aroace characters 1. aren't really a thing for the most part, and 2. get written over when they are a thing.
I imagine that when I finally manage to finish one of my stories or games and, y'know, all of my characters are bi/pan/demi because that's what I tend to write...that's probably just gonna get changed to be "whoops everyone's gay lol" by the fandom, and I've already come to terms with that. (Well, by the part of the fandom that isn't populated by "ugh, everything is so WOKE now!" assholes, I'm just gonna pretend they won't even show up because they aren't worth it.) But then, it's also like...if someone officially continued or adapted my properties, and they changed my characters to be all straight or maybe one character gets to be kinda-sorta gay or something, I. I would definitely lose my shit.
-vague gestures-
I don't really know where I'm going with this, I just wanted to say my whole piece without having to worry about being accused of derailing/not listening to a post-
But basically if you're outraged whenever a gay character's sexuality is changed for any reason in any context, I better hear you be that upset about the rest of the possible orientations, and not pulling that shit yourself. I swear to god.
#not important#chaotic rambles#discourse#sorry for the vagueness about characters n stuff i just dont wanna wind up in any fandom searches#how to bridge the fact that im only attracted to fictional characters#with the fact that i have to be repeatedly made to realize i've never seen any character like me in fiction at all ever#only characters that are kinda sorta like me and also the unattractive loser butt of every single joke#also character sexuality is so...weird and not-solid to my brain y'all#i only have like...two or three characters that are full-on gay? out of the hundreds i've written?#about the same for het or ace or...you know any other combinations/other sexualities#it's usually more natural to my brain to have my characters shipped with basically anyone and everyone#and only a few times has a character effectively grabbed me by the horns and went “no. im not into that. and you cannot make me be.”#which creates a funny tidbit where two of my gay characters have radically different tastes in the same gender#so they both think the other one is “weird" and it's just really amusing to me#they also arent attracted to each other due not fitting into each other's tastes#it's just like...the only two men in a gay bar and they hiss at each other like cats#why did it turn out this way? genuinely no clue#i have a third gay man but he's got a third completely unique to him taste and he's just standing there#awkwardly sipping his drink like “oh god neither of these two ask me to agree with them please”
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Wtf did I like to get so much davekat on my for you tab…is all this really just from those goofy karkat jr/rose jr shitposts I was looking at the other day???? Or is it just homestuck in general???
#like nothing against davekat it’s just not a pairing i have much interest in#i mean i like dave. and i like karkat. i just kinda…don’t care abt any ship other than pale gamkar basically#maybe if i could actually find good fics to my taste w/o tripping over gamzee hate i could get more into other ships and characters :/#i mean the dirkjake fic i kinda understand. still dont think mentioning gamzee at ALL was necessary but canon gamkar is…not great.#similar with blood-stained knight of beforus. gamzee WAS necessary in that one and it makes sense for him to be abusive i just wish he wasnt#(of course that whole series was…a lot. good. but a lot. )#but that one spn-esque dirk and dave centric series???? author. author. why tf are you redeeming KURLOZ but villifying gamzee? they did the#EXACT SAME THING you just dont see much of kurloz doing it bc he’s a minor character! if you needed karkat to have trauma use his canonical#mutation and fear of being killed for it instead of showing an absolutely mind-boggling double standard!#*sigh*#i know not everyone is going to interpret my fave the same way as me. but it’d be nice if he didn’t get so much hate#marijn talks#marijn rambles in the tags#rant in the tags#not tagging with main tags i dont need my tag rant sparking discourse
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Are you a multishipper?
Nope, I only really ship dnf 👍
#this ask was so ominous to get like. 🤨 i cant tell if u r genuinely wondering or want to grt me cancelled or something#but yeah i personally kinda dislike a few other ships/they just don't appeal to me#everyone is totally free to follow me though its just you'll get a lot of dnf posting xD#but i dont post any neg or discourse abt shipping if thats why u asked? i am just vibing talking abt dnf a lot#i feel like im overexplaining myself . whatevrr anyway idc what u ship as long as u are not mean to me abt dnf ^_^#asks
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WOW the replies of this post are insane are you guys Okay
i can't believe one piece invented gay people
#why did the reply section of this post turn into a shipping war#it's kinda funny but at the same time i feel like the more people that see the already existing discourse in the replies#are motivated to add further discourse#cuz i havent seen this issue on any of my other even shippier posts#mob mentality in a way?
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Ok, I want people to tell me (in comments or asks if you wanna stay anon) what ships do think - do you genuinely believe - were implied in the canon, that the audience was given clear, solid indications of, that never became canon?
So, not just a thing people wanted that didn't happen (or hasn't happened yet). A ship that is/was genuine bait. You were led to think it would happen - you made reasonable, sensible inferences from what you were shown - and then it did not?
Send me your examples of genuine bait.
(Dont feel like there's a time limit on this, ill check this blog again in a few months or so)
#fandom wank#fandom discourse#shipping discourse#queerbaiting#ship bait#fandom nonsense#this is kinda research but not for anything#i can only think of one thing that fits this description and its a straight ship#i can think of a lot of times where the expectation was not reasonable lol#but i don't want to spoil the sample#share this and submit ideas#disk horse#discourse#no idea how to give this post reach but don't want to tag any specific fandom for sampling reasons
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