#antinatalism childfrees

[mundo-sem-pirralhos]

Walid Middleman

Estamos salvando nossos filhos desta terra, que está cheia de perigos, e ao mesmo tempo estamos salvando a terra da maldade dos humanos Ninguém pode prever o futuro de seu filho e ninguém tem garantias de que seu filho não será mau, um bandido e uma fraude no futuro.

o futuro de todos sempre será a morte, e a procriação da vida pra morte!

everyone's future will always be death, and the procreation of life for death!

[headphonesthoughts]

[grimm-the-tiger]

I just realized: TERFs must fucking HATE child-free women with a PASSION. They're always going on and on about how surgery for trans men is "mutilation" and how they're throwing away perfectly good and useful and "beautiful" organs for something they view as a toxic ideology at best and an outright cult at worst. Meanwhile, from my experience, most CF women want to be sterilized, either for ideological reasons (*cough, anti-natalists, cough*) or as a preventative to ensure our choice is respected. So not only do we want to "mutilate" our reproductive organs, but we also spit in the face of their warped idea of feminism just for not wanting kids. They put so much power in biological determinism that anything that breaks that mold is abhorrent to them, be it people who change their gender and gender expression or people who refuse to play into or lack the biological "need" for children.

EDIT: Wow, this post hasn't even been up for a day and the radfems have already found it. Going through the stuff they've said, I now realize that they don't, in fact, hate childfree women because they have some truly impressive double standards.

[mikajupiterjonesingtimcurryfeet]

human logic:

[cimerran-714]

A single question to drill holes into the pro-choice movement.

Not clickbait.

If you think women (or "pregnant people", for the ones who also support the trans cult) should have the "right" because of bodily autonomy, do you think it should be legal to not breastfeed your child? Is it acceptable to starve your infant to death as he/she would be depending on you (on your body, specifically) for survival? Let's say that there's no formula available in this case & breastfeeding is the only option.

Now, most of them would avoid answering the direct question & come up with excuses.

She's legally obligated to take care of the child after it's born, so yes.

Legality doesn't always dictate morality, so this argument is bullshit. Slavery was legal once.

2. But we are talking about an infant, not a fetus.

This is specifically only addressing the bodily autonomy argument & not about personhood or whatever. If you have bodily autonomy, it should apply even if it's an infant. If it doesn't, then you are actually agreeing that bodily autonomy can be limited under some circumstances.

3. Pregnancy is more burdensome:

So it's about burden? You can kill someone if they are "more" of a burden to you, is that it? If pregnancy were painless, would you be against abortion in that case? And again, you are agreeing that bodily autonomy can be limited by saying it doesn't apply when it's less of a burden.

4. Try to deflect the topic and talk about something else.

Get back on track & answer the direct question.

Or they can bite the bullet and say "Yes, it should be legal for women to starve their infants to death." At this point you can just walk away from the person because they are clearly a psychopath.

But, yes, please answer this question. I look forward to all the logical pro-choice answers.

Spoiler: you won't have one.

[bloughjobs]

[lunarhaze]

Preach

[nirivenova]

Friendly reminder that if your life is fucked up, having a kid will not fix it

[italianpawg]

not to be a perpetual debbie downer but i feel like people who decide to have kids in young adulthood (early/mid 20s) often neglect to realize that your mid 20s is a very common time for developing severe mental (and physical) illnesses; for example psychotic disorders, bipolar depression, schizophrenia, cardiovascular disease, certain types of cancer and autoimmune conditions, and a whole barage of other unpleasant shit that could disable you or permanently affect the quality of your life going forward. it often doesn't start wreaking havoc until after the 'college years'. so. maybe wait it out and consider what you're getting yourself and your hypothetical family into before that shit hits you full steam and you have three toddlers to take care of

[merkredonn]

How come we don't tell people who want children that they might change their mind later?

[belle-keys]

"it'd be so unfair and unethical of me to bring a child into this evil dying world" said jessica from the suburbs of maine

listen if you don't personally want kids that's cool that's fair that's totally fine and no ifs and about about that but please miss me with the ideological anti-natalism like

our ancestors and contemporaries have chosen to persist and believe in humanity in the face of chattel slavery and famine and genocide and abject poverty so stop condemning procreation there is really no justifiable reason to say "hey let's totally give up on the world"

[mundo-sem-pirralhos]

Nossos pais não foram obrigados a justificar a nossa existência. Não deveríamos ser obrigados a justificar nossa extinção. O suicídio deveria ser pelo menos um direito fundamental tanto quanto a procriação. #righttodie #antinatalism #suicidepreventionisslavery

[headphonesthoughts]

[onceagwen]

how you gon be suicidal and have a baby. bitch you don’t even wanna be here.

[mikajupiterjonesingtimcurryfeet]

[thatdamnokie]

y’all said “if you can’t feed ‘em don’t breed ‘em 😡” and so we went “okay! ✨” and now people are complaining about the birth rate being so low like i am b e g g i n g you people to pick a lane 💀