#anti-bucktommy

[madlori]

Co-opting a very real issue for trans people and applying it to a cis man going by more than one name, by his own volition, is super fucking gross, by the way.

[dubiousculturalartifact]

Obviously I’ve been queerbaited before, like, a genuinely incalculable number of times, and maybe thinking Buddie might actually go canon is a ‘fool me sixteen times, shame on me’ scenario, but I think one big thing that’s keeping my hope alive is this thought: If you genuinely believe that Buddie isn’t going to go canon, 100% zero possibility and absolutely no intention of trying... Then you also have to believe the people who create the show we’re all fans of are purposefully cruel dicks. 

Because we have SEEN what it looks like when the showrunner of 911 knows there is no possibility of it happening, has no plans of it, and is generally trying to avoid accusations of queerbaiting.

It looks like S5 & S6. Little bits here and there, the odd important scene to throw breadcrumbs… but a lot of keeping the two characters apart, being circumspect in interviews, PR shut downs on the actors, etc. The show has proven they are capable and willing to exactly that!

So indulge me, and imagine for a second. They had the conversation with the new network, and the execs told them they wanted to continue with the status quo, to write as if Buddie is never going to go canon, BUT were willing to bend so far as to make one of them queer, to keep the fans happy.

What would that look like?

I don't know, call me foolish.... But I think it would look like keeping the same dynamic from The Drought Seasons. Having them be friends and important to each other but still fairly disconnected, not having as much screen-time, etc, It would look like having Buck’s coming out arc be a SEPARATE, individual narrative. If they just wanted to write Tommy and Buck, and that's it, they could have done things differently.

There are just so many conceivable ways they could have written Buck’s coming out arc, to almost completely separate it from Eddie and have it be made clear, in no uncertain terms, that Buck is bi but that doesn’t mean he cares about Eddie like that, that Eddie is a hetero McHetero.

Buck’s coming out arc could have included him being jealous because he’s suddenly faced with Tommy in the flesh and is insecure about how he was technically ‘Tommy’s replacement’ at the 911, with Eddie not relevant to it at all, or have Maddie and Chimney be the ones to interrupt The Date, or literally any other scenario that didn’t make it all about Eddie. 

They could have had one short scene where Eddie and Buck talk about it, and then the rest would be like, Buck talking to Hen about being queer, Buck interacting just with Tommy and getting to know him, Buck doing a research binge about bisexuality and info-dumping at an inappropriate time during a call, etc etc etc.

That’s how you tell that story and only be writing it for the proverbial ‘general audience’.

But they didn't. They purposefully reversed direction. They chose for Buck’s coming out arc to... highlight his nigh-feral jealousy over Eddie forming a homosocial bond with another guy, having said guy repeat with genuine surprise and shock that it was him and not Eddie that Buck was interested in, have Eddie interrupt their date, have Buck be more worried about lying to Eddie than the fact that he’s queer at all, have Maddie say what she did to Buck about telling Eddie in specifically ambiguous terms…

In a season that also included the Fire Extinguisher Incident, and Buck saying he ‘wishes he could help’ with Eddie’s sexual frustration, and a big increase in social media engagement, and having Buck being Eddie’s rock in the last few episodes while he had a bizarrely platonic affair with his dead wife's doppleganger…

If they did that while KNOWING the plan was actually for Buck/Tommy endgame and Eddie riding off in the sunset with a hot female firefighter who has a cool motorcycle or whatever the fuck, or them both dying in a freak car-washing accident, or….

If they GENUINELY planned that? If the entire Buck jealousy plotline was intended to be nothing more than a deliberate queerbait-and-switch? Then they’re fucking assholes, sorry. They would have to know full well exactly what they were doing, how many people’s hopes and emotional investment they were toying with... If they were actually planning to keep dragging it along for seasons more of baiting and dangling things in front of us, while knowing categorically that they had no plans to deliver? That would be genuinely GOD TIER levels of specific, intentional queerbaiting.

Which could be the case! I won't deny that. Shows have done it before, plenty of times. Tim et al could be callous bastards deliberately instructing the actors to wink it up in interviews and share suggestive Tiktoks, and writing Buck’s coming out arc as being entirely focused around Eddie and throwing out hints... All while laughing behind Buddie fans' backs about our gullibility, how we’re keeping the show trending on the force of our delusions, etc. Maybe that's it! Maybe they just genuinely enjoying fucking with people. Or maybe they were just shitty enough writers that they didn't know what they were doing, and it was all a total accident, somehow, the proverbial monkeys pounding at keyboards and accidentally spelling out B U D D I...

But you know what? Call it naive, but I prefer to think they’re not huge assholes, or hugely incompetent.

That there might actually be a point to all this, somewhere down the line.

I guess we'll find out.

[can-i-get-a-yippee]

I guess my whole beef with the whole buckt*mmy convo is that they could’ve easily built up their relationship in that moment and made it a scene where Buck leaned on T*mmy emotionally and grown more emotionally intimate.

Bc Bobby is one of the most important people in Buck’s life, and he mentions that Bobby is like a father to him.

And like instead of adding emotionally depth to their relationship with the convo, it just became joking convo about daddy issues that ended in asex joke one liner that just really didn’t fit the tone of the episode overall :/

[iced-coffee-jesus]

oh, so did they mention buddie at all? did it get mentioned more than bucktommy? just curious as I haven’t seen the paleyfest thing yet.

No, it didn't get mentioned; they don't usually ask explicitly about buddie. I'm not personally keeping a tally score, either.

Buck and Tommy only had the one mention that I posted earlier. The Paley fest thing was fun but definitely didn't give out any new information. Every question was very focused on where everything was left off last season. Athena and Bobby are house hunting, Madney is taking care of Mara, Henren's plot is also about Mara, Eddie is going on a journey of self-discovery, and Buck hates Gerard. That was about it!

I do generally get a kick out of how little Oliver will expand on bt, though lol.

[bibuckagenda]

I might start using anti-bucktommy or something? I don’t want to post hate in a ship tag; I’d get pissed if someone did it for mine, you know?

[mr-and-mr-diaz]

What's happening?

tbh it's been so long, I can't remember what this is referencing, but in recent tumblr activity in this neighborhood:

I went from not caring about bummy to severely disliking it. I think it's a mix of bummy shipper behavior (including but not limited to: terrible tagging so i got their shit on my feed, and bad takes, everything else is whatever), the UTTER LACK of chemistry between Lou and Oliver that is reflected in the zero chemistry between Buck and Tommy, and just how cheated I feel that they think they can just throw any ol' man at Buck and that's enough for me to be like "Whelp I guess Buck and Eddie's epic love story just isn't meant to be and we can replace Eddie with just any old guy *shrugs*." No one would accept that if someone tried to subvert a straight ship and I ain't lowering my standards here either.

I threw shade at polin (bridgerton), and didn't tag correctly, which is my bad. Someone sent me aggressive anons, and I felt so popular for like 3 seconds.

[waroftheposes]

Been thinking a lot about 911 vs glee since Josh Russo brought it up

[jasongracedefenseattorney]

“the breakup was bad writing” WHAT DO YOU MEANNNNNN?!?! the relationship was PEAK 9-1-1 writing yall just don’t like that it wasn’t written with tommy as endgame! they were always going to have troubles at micelli’s!! eddie was always going to haunt their narrative!! they never make it to the movie together!! tommy was always going to have to fight for a “spot” in buck’s life and the moment buck finally lets him in (ie he gets a good parking spot) he’s not willing to put in any work to keep it. he never learned that buck doesn’t like basketball he never indulged buck’s love of deep dives even in the breakup he called buck impulsive but the thing is buck isn’t impulsive by nature! he can be self destructive and throw himself into danger for others but actual decisions in his life are so often made by committee. the only time he acts impulsively is when he’s clinging to dying relationships. and he wouldn’t even call him by his name! the only time he calls him buck is right before he leaves when for ONCE he sees him completely. the bucktommy breakup was some of the best work the writers have done in a while im sorry that yall fell in love with a plot device and got mad that he was used as a device for the plot but the writers led you to the water it’s not their fault when you don’t drink

[dumbassunicorn08]

"Went crazy and took up some himbo half her age" the absolute hypocrisy and misogyny in this statement as if he isn't also dating someone half his age. As if Abby wasn't struggling to take care of her mother. Tommy kinard they will never make me like you

[thebuckandeddiething]

shots on tv aren't random...do with that what you will

[chaoticbiguysblog]

For the love of GOD, Tommy Kinnard is not historic lgbt rep. White gay characters with no personality are a dime a dozen on network tv. Even Buck's bisexuality storyline, while is groundbreaking for queer firefighters, it's also not historic since "older guy discovers he's bi" was already done in Crazy Ex Girlfriend. Even Eddie's queer awakening wouldn't be historic, as there have been a few "formerly straight-identifying guys with religious trauma coming out later in their lives" storylines on tv. Not to mention, Michael's journey on 911. 

Now, Buck and Eddie's relationship would ABSOLUTELY be historic lgbt rep bc we've never had a slowburn same sex romance on network tv, especially with two firefighters (don't just take my word for it, go Google and see it for yourself, we don't have anything like that yet), if they were to go canon, they'll certainly create history. As for what we have right now, a boring relationship with the characters saying one or two lines to each other every third episode, is hardly historic.

You wanna know what's 911's contribution in historic lgbt representation, it's our own Henrietta "Hen" Wilson.

A badass lesbian firefighter+paramedic, who's also been an interim captain, she's strong despite the severe workplace discrimination she had to endure and she's a great mother, she almost became a doctor too, what is it that she can't do? As for her relationship, it's one of the three front and center relationships on 911, her wife Karen is a rocket scientist, and one of the most emotionally mature character I've ever seen on tv, and even though their relationship hit a bump in the first season, they managed to get past the cheating and after that they've had a relatively healthy and happy marriage, and we don't see a lot of that on network tv, especially with two Black women. Hen and Karen never get their dues for being a wonderful queer+wlw representation, and it has only gotten worse since EvanTommy fans have joined the fandom.

[pangrams-n-palindromes]

7x05 - "Is this (uber) ours?" "no, it's mine"

7x06 - "WE GET AN UBER"

[dubiousculturalartifact]

So: A consistent theme of Buck's relationships is him putting in more than he's getting back, and people who refuse to meet him at his level. And... Tommy decided to wear a plain black henley, to the 1980s-themed karaoke party that Buck was ridiculously excited about. :/

[bloodsoakedbuckley]

like.

inspo

[buddiehasmyheart]

Buck, slams adoption papers on Bobbys dining table: Adopt me.

Bobby, slams complete adoption papers back: already have

Buck: What? When?

Athena: your first day at the firehouse

[bibuckagenda]

Please ePLEASE tell me this is not about a certain fictional gay man please tell me you’re not saying a real life lesbian is not allowed to hate a gay fictional character that was a bunch of different phobics onscreen because of the very real AIDS crisis