#anti yenralt

[sailorkamino]

playing witcher 3 and whenever i do a mission with yen it feels like i have a lot less freedom? like the game is forcing us to be together. i avoid flirting and disagree with her plans but i often don't have a choice. now her character profile says we're growing closer. (it also says she was hostile and cutting for the best years of our relationship! sounds healthy!)

example: she wants to break into a lab. i say no, she ignores me. she wants to steal a mask and won't say why. at this point i can't object and am just praying it's not too destructive. she gets us gas chambered and one of the dialogue options was 'i want to kiss you.' i hope you mean cpr!? then when i try to confront her, she jokes? girl you're angry 80% of the time and now you want be a comedian?

personally i find yenralt relationship toxic and don't want to pursue it so i find this so annoying. you've been on/off for 20 years, if you haven't worked it out yet, maybe you should move on. i just wanna ride roach and fight monsters now i'm stuck in divorce court.

[wolvesandfoxes25]

Damn, the antis are just so vindicated by that one sentence, huh?

I'm feeling pretty vindicated that it was bullcrap if the puppy dog eyes towards Geralt is anything to go by. Not to mention the never-ending songs towards Geralt, the heartbreak on the mountain. The little.. how about we get away from the toxic witch together? Just you and me? I'm just trying to work out what pleases me, as he looks nervous and downtrodden.

The breakup song.

Getting tortured by Rience, even when he knew where Kaer Morhen might be located. When he knew SOME of Geralts weaknesses, and had other information that Rience could have used, but chose not to tell.

After singing Burn Witcher Burn..he looks sad...hurt. And that's why Rience took him btw, he probably figured since Geralt jilted Jaskier that the information would flow freely. Yeah, no.

Hated Yennefer. Probably has resentment, even if he doesn't realize it.

But yeah, all the pining looks and songs written from his broken heart, it's platonic. His confession in season 1, asking Geralt to RUNAWAY with him. But, yeah, take to heart one statement when Jaskiers known to lie to protect himself. ����‍♀️

[lovestuckyhatemarvel]

Listen, Yennefer and Ciri’s relationship is sort of becoming interesting. Kind of. I still don’t fully trust Yennefer with her because she’s fully repeated mistakes before, no matter what Yennefer claims.

The more annoying thing is Yennefer acting like Geralt not fully trusting her after she betrayed him can be fixed by writing letters and reminding him of the times they fucked.

Also is it just me or do the actors have less fucking chemistry than ever before? Like holy shit, I didn’t care much at all before about that pairing, but now it’s just actively unbearable.

[wolvesandfoxes25]

Anything but Yenralt lol! 😆

yenskier in s4 if not doing yennaia and geraskier, yennsabriba..or yentriss hint the chemistry with women here..but anyway geraskier and yennaia or if not yenskier, yet NONE of these will happen cause with the yenralt in the way

[limerental]

negative post time... while I am deeply into the current interest in yennskier and it's highly highly preferable to the previous widespread anti-yen sentiment... there are some moments that it feels like yennefer is seen as an accessory to bard, as as a romantic interest first and a character with her own goals and desires second, etc. Which has been driving my lack of interest in participating in that side of fandom lately.

[loki-is-my-kink-awakening]

Fave shows tag game

Rules: List 5 favourite shows (in no particular order) and answer questions accordingly.

Thanks @the-evil-stick for the tag. Your answers were amazing. I adored them.

Anyway, let's go.

Loki

The Witcher

Shadow and Bone

Midnight Mass

Our Flag Means Death

My answers below the cut.

1. Who is your favourite character in 2?

No question, it's Jaskier. My absolute baby. The main character. There is no one else.

2. Who is your least favourite character in 1?

Can I pick Kang since he manipulated Loki even when he was in the TVA and not in the sacred timeline? And everyone else he controlled.

3. What's your favourite episode of 4?

Episode 5. It's very Riley-centric and he's my fave from this show. He deals with a lot this episode.

4. What is your favourite season of 5?

Lmao, I could go out on a limb and say S2, but since we don't even have a trailer yet, I'm gonna stick with S1.

5. What's your favourite relationship in 3?

Wesper. A close second is Kanej. But Wesper are my absolute fave.

6. Who is your anti relationship in 2?

Not really into Yenralt on their own. As a poly with Jaskier, yes. Mainly, that ship needs more Jaskier in it.

Everything needs more Jaskier in it.

7. How long have you watched 1?

I've watched through twice completely and watched various parts over and over on occasion.

8. How did you become interested in 3?

The show came out on Netflix. We watched the first episode. Partner didn't like it. I went away and starred reading the books, then went back and watched the show. Then I realised I was missing something, which was Six of Crows and I started reading those books, too.

9. Who is your favourite actor in 4?

Hamish Linklater is amazing. The way he plays John/Paul is so good.

10. Which show do you prefer 1, 2 or 5?

Oooh, hard one. At the moment, with a bi bard becoming an actuality that will be shown-on-screen canon, I'm gonna go with The Witcher.

Of course, we have lots of queer rep in OFMD but I'm very obsessed with Jaskier, if you can't tell.

11. Which show have you seen more episodes of 1 or 3?

There are more episodes in Shadow and Bone, so that one.

12. If you could be anyone from 4, who would you be?

Warren Flynn. I live.

13. How would you kill off your favourite character in 5?

Buttons sets fire to the ship in a last ditch attempt to distract the big bads and let everyone escape, before he dives into the welcome arms of the sea.

14. Would a 3/4 crossover work?

Saints and God. Alina having to go to Crockett Island to get an amplifier, which is the Angel.

Or Saints vs God. Each side trying to wow more followers by having better miracles.

Could be something in it.

15. Pair two characters in 1 that would make an unlikely, but strangely okay couple.

Okay, total crack. Casey and Miss Minutes.

16. Overall, which show has the better cast, 3 or 5?

That's difficult because I love, love, love the Six of Crows characters, but I have to say Our Flag Means Death has a great cast overall.

Tagging @waterhorseyblues-ao3 @insert-witty-user-name-here @cha-melodius @mirilyawrites @mimisempai @rins-love-wins @chaos-monkeyy @johnsimms @bigpeepee @abitofboth if you or anyone else wants to do this.

[maarigolds]

I'm sorry Geralt ily

[booker-le-livre]

Yennefer had more chemistry with Jaskier, Cahir, and dare I say it, Istredd, in like one episode than she’s ever had with Geralt throughout the entire series so far.

[monsterboyfriend]

I need a comprehensive post about why Yennskier works but Yenralt and Geraskier fails but I'm too lazy to write it myself.

[ackermental]

Omg shut up you dumb bitch and the witcher is a great show and hebry cavill is great as geralt and you are dumb

Yes, nonny. Thank you. From this day forward it's gonna be Hebry and Jennifer.

[gravitywhatgravity]

Geralt and Yen have such great chemistry but "man binds woman to him forever because she's pretty and he ~immediately loves her~" is the start of a story about the hero learning some tough lessons not like...a love story

I love their dynamic so much but I just don't think the show does enough work to make Geralt seem like someone that made the wish out of desperation and loneliness rather than a sense of entitlement

[craybii]

Probably me being the only person in the world (I hope not) who genuinely thinks that Anya’s Yennefer and Liam’s Geralt look like a far better and hotter match??

Henry is a good actor, bless him but he rarely has chemistry with anyone (and don’t say Jaskier, who he barely treats like a friend). Yennefer had the screen sizzling with Istredd but never with Geralt... idk why, maybe cause of the whole age difference? Liam is not much older than Anya at least.

So I’m actually maybe kinda sorta excited to see Liam and Anya on screen. Here’s hoping we get to see more than we did with Henry, if you catch my meaning lol. 

And please don’t come @ me for this. I just think Liam’s hotter.

[admjralbenbow]

Is so funny to me how every single ship with Yennefer is great un this season

Do you like Yennefer and Tissaia? Fantastic.

Yennefer with Triss? Amazing.

Yenna and Istredd? Lovely.

Yennefer with Fringilla enemies-to-lovers? Great!

My god, we even had this whatever-the-fuck-was-happening-there between her and Cahir.

And dont even talk abt Yennskier being the best thing of the s2.

-every single ship but Yenralt cause wtf is that?? they look like a tired couple who just still together bc of the children and to have sex besides they hate each other ass and call it "love".

[angelscometrue]

my villain original story is the witcher fandom hating on the female protagonists so they can uplift their white straight man... making him the "little perfect snowflake" and her a "awful bitch who is in the way of their m/m fanon ship"

[dadralt]

you know those ao3 tags sets i made? wanted to make a new one for yen...

but YIKES at the obvious difference compared to geralt 💀

[jew-flexive]

Honestly I was such a fan of agressively amoral Yennefer! She was viscous and vengeful and glorious— but Bottled Appetites got to me, man. I’ve been assaulted twice, and seeing her control an orgy and sexually assault Geralt and Jaskier (yes that mind-control kiss and that time she grabbed a man’s penis and threatened to cut it off were both instances of sexual assault fight me) was really, really difficult for me. I had to turn off the show and read the synopsis so I could go to the next episode, and then I had to skip through all the Geralt x Yennefer scenes because I felt sick to my stomach. But then again, Bottled Appetites was a shit show when it came to consent for all the characters, so 🤷🏼‍♀️.

Also, it is clear that Yennefer is not ready to be a mother— she seeking validation through a child in a way very reminiscent of my abusive mother and it is not healthy— for her or the hypothetical child.

Honestly, I’m super sick of so many people on Tumblr assuming that the only reasons people dislike Yennefer (as a person not as a character, because again, she makes a compelling quasi-villain) are a) misogynist or racist or b) trying to prop up a ship. While I understand that there is a long history of WOC characters being sidelined by fandom in favor of white het ships or white slash ships, I do think this situation is different than the whole Arwen/Merthur debacle. Angel did not deserve the hate she got (and a lot of that was hate motivated by racism and misogyny) and the Merthur fandom was hella toxic at times and took over most of the Merlin fandom space. I’m seeing a lot of parallels being drawn by Yen stans between these two fandoms, and it honestly makes me so mad. Yennefer and Guinevere are two incredibly different characters— and we never saw Gwen sexually assault anyone on screen.

Sorry I kind of co-opted your post, but I’ve been bottling this up a little, if you couldn’t tell. I’ve tried to engage with other Witcher fans about my issues with how Yennefer is perceived by the fandom as an abuse survivor and I got shot down pretty quick, so it was just nice to see someone like-minded. That being said, I do think she is an interesting character— I just wish the writers had leaned into the whole “amoral, renegade mage” angle instead of this hamfisted, toxic, uninteresting romance.

Cami my dear dudette and people who have now join the discussion, I have never been more proud of all the shit I just stirred. And agree with all the points made, the orgy scene is gross, her manipulation of Geralt to go kill some men is gross, her reason for wanting a child are selfish and pretty sure she got the idea from that queen she left for dead cuz she said that she was the whole world to her baby, so before then she didn't want a baby and after she got it in her head that she wanted one

“(2) kind of like a child that wants something because someone else as that same thing. Yennefer and Geralt also make no sense, they have no chemistry, they relationship is based on a wish and they spend zero time getting to know eachother. Also the kiss in the cave scene makes no sense, who thought it look good? Who look at that and went: ahh yes, peak romance 👌 it's cringe at it's finest.” 

She really does get handed a baby and goes “Ew” and then 2 minutes later realizes that she could steal this baby and be its entire world and she never paused to think about it beyond that. We’re shown her burying this baby (that she was NOT comfortable around) and all of a sudden we’re supposed to believe that it’s her greatest wish in life to have one?? And like, selfish characters can be super interesting! if they’re treated that way. The show doesn’t frame her in that way, and uh, obvs there are a lots of fans that do the same. Her screaming “I want everything” while she gets ripped apart could’ve been cool as shit except people captioned it saying “it’s what she deserves” instead of treating it like a villain sort of moment but whatever

I’ve been in a few fandoms, and lemme tell you, it’s really weird to always have mind control referred to as mind rape except for this one. Yennefer straight up organizes a rape orgy where everyone but her is a victim, and yet that doesn’t seem to be the popular way of looking at that scene. Talk about confusing, dudes. 

On the topic of Geralt and Yennefer’s chemistry/complete lack thereof: I’m a big Renfri/Geralt slut, so I wasn’t super happy to see Yennefer in the first place. Second watch through, I decided that I was going to watch the scene with their first kiss after the djinn from a neutral perspective. And it Did Not Look Good. Watching that scene out of context makes it painfully obvious that there is nothing there. They aren’t arguing with tension, they’re just arguing. They straight up Are Not attracted to each other. 

As for the kiss in the cave scene......................................... yeah