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theginkosakata · 1 year
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lunaneko14 · 3 months
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IchiRukis and Anti-IchiHimes can believe what they want but here's the thing, Kubo-sensei made Bleach, not them. Also, I kinda hate repeating this for those morons but he could have made Rukia the trigger to Ichigo's extreme reactions and the target for his enemies in order to get to him. However, Kubo-sensei opted for Hime and he just proceeded with it.
Orihime
- was allowed by Kenpachi to join him in SS Arc since he sensed that having her near him could lead him to Ichigo.
- was hugged (put his arm on her shoulder in the anime) by Shinji and it caused Ichigo to drag then shove him on the wall. Even Ichigo's classmates reacted to why he got angry like that.
- was abducted by Ulquiorra thru Aizen's orders in order to keep Ichigo out of the war. Ulquiorra mentioned to Ichigo that he was the one who abducted her and caused the latter to attack the former in a fit of rage. Ichigo was like a zombie after he learned about her abduction.
- Grimmjow used her to taunt Ichigo in order to get a reaction from him and it worked. He also targeted her during his final fight with Ichigo so the latter will have to take their fight more seriously.
-Ginjo had her brought into Yukio's "game room" in order for her to heal Ichigo and allow him to fight harder. It worked since he noticed Ichigo's movements become sharper when she was there, causing Ginjo to note that Ichigo tends to fight better when he has to protect.
-The mere mention of her name by Tsukishima after altering the history of Ichigo's friends and family made Ichigo punch him so hard and him seeing her heal the former later on in the FB arc caused him to be a bit devastated.
I mentioned these examples since Kubo-sensei used those recurring themes to reinforce why IchiHime is the endgame couple. Yes, he could have been lazy and made Ichigo and Orihime admit to each other but he didn't. He used his characters as PoV since thru them, we saw how Ichigo reacted when something was done to Orihime, and his reactions were obvious.
Lastly, attacking, harassing and outright insulting Kubo-sensei or any mangaka about what they did with their work is bollocks. It's their work, not ours. We consume it.
It just goes to show how good of a writer Kubo is and why he stands among the big three and these “fans” don’t. Like seriously any one of them, especially the Japanese fans, can make an IR inspired series and be as successful as Bleach but in reality these people have no talent so they force and leech off of actual talents and think they can bully said talent and whatever fans that have common sense.
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ichinoue · 1 year
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I came across a very old tweet from an anti-IH about how you deleted a post about "even if my OTP never becomes canon, I will still ship it" bc you supposedly implied that Kubo had killed our "Origo" ship and that when you realized what you wrote you, that's when you deleted it. Can you please clarify this?
continued: Anon from the old anti-IH tweet here, just wanted to add the tweet was from 2013, 3 years before the manga ended if I'm correct, so I'm not surprised they were still full of themselves denying IH (wonder what it must've been like for them to experience the rest of Bleach's run XD) but since I can't remember the context, I would still like to know your version regarding that post they had claimed you deleted.
Oh my god...lmao I absolutely remember that post. It didn't mention IH or any specific ship at all, it just said "my otp" and something about how I would ship it forever even if it never became canon etc. and I attached a stupid gif of some lady doing a spin at the bottom (2012 era tumblr was so cringe lol). Anyway, somehow it went viral on here and spread to a bunch of different fandoms like superwholock and marvel and whatever else, and I think it got over like 50,000 notes??
This was literally ten years ago but I still remember me and my friends on here would joke about how many notes it was gaining, and how cringe it was. But I was tired of receiving notifications for it nonstop so I deleted it, maybe like 3 months later?
So, I mean, number one, it's kind of weird and hilarious that some anti was stalking my blog hard enough to even know about that dumb post in the first place lmao. Number two...since this anti knew I deleted it, they had to have seen my post talking about why I was deleting it. Like how it was starting to reach some weird like Harry/Snape shipper blogs and I was like "fuck this, kill it with fire! DELETE!"
But somehow they took it as me doubting IH?? lmao like...wouldn't I have deleted all of my posts and my entire blog if that were the case? Instead of just one single post that didn't even mention IH? As I continued to post about my confidence in IH being endgame...? The leap in logic is just...idk!!! These people were weirdly obsessive about the smallest shit, I'm not kidding. Bleach fandom lore is nuts.
anyway, what a wild time. But hey, if you ever find the tweet again, please send it to me so I can see who was stalking me that hard lmao.
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eligalilei · 2 months
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TTC 4
I just went ahead and gave multiple renderings some of the time, and then stuck in a gloss, since I sort of had a lot of trouble with this chapter. There's a strange tension between 'Empty' and 'never having excess'.... that I... just couldn't get over. Some part of me thinks there's just a translation failure, or a corruption that got passed down... or I'm just too dumb.
So I decided to take this up as a text of 'negative theology'.... the (non-)identity of the Dao with the Trace or thread without end, designedly attacking any kind of objectification in any sense. Not explicable, not an origin, not a destination.
The Origo is the pragmatic position of a statement (the locus of issuance, by which I understand 'I' to be a meaningful utterance).... and that's as strong of a pronouncement as I'll make. A point in a network; could be anyone saying 'I', but always embedded and understood "is" that the Dao? I'm not sure, but it seizes on the linguistic/mathematical 'vibe' of the text.
Γνῶσις is unspeakable insight, always one's own, and never exhaustible, the One is Plotinus' 'Origin beyond being'. Maybe that's going a bit farther down a Western way of thinking, but... it's hardly unprecedented.
The Other is Mystery behind the signifier of the face, present in absence, and signifying an unconquerable order. תֹהוּ וָבֹהוּ is the state of the World before Elohim's creation of the firmament, thus, as some have said, designating the Tao as 'older than God'.
'Es' is Freud's 'Id'... the unconquerable alien within us, behind, us following us.... (Wo Es war, soll Ich Werden....Aber es wird immer die Andere Seite gegeben, and It gives: Es gibt; the Other side, the Gift that poisons, questions, my boundaries)
But this negation is of course preferatory, and, I think, the text goes back and forth about specificity and negation: our idols are trashed, we are asked to let go, so that we can begin to grasp threads, to set ourselves on the way. To me, this feels very sympathetic to many religious traditions and their reverence to the divine, the TTC is just so much more unwavering on this point, and I choose to kind of give it an overkill execution here. I feel it as a prayer of supplication, or Job's recognition that he is, ultimately, dust. But this isn't intended to make us... give up, but rather open us to subtler attunements, and release obsession with dwelling. To become the hermits we are on the face of God's great organless body.
While this maybe feels anti-philosophical, my interest is in fact to read the TTC as a preface or inspiration for doing philosophy. It doesn't even speak to me as anti-systemic.... if anything, it relocates the joy of systemization in the World Itself, as a human activity: it's not about the words: once you have climbed to the top of the ladder, you don't proceed to carry it around with you.
This is for sure a different reading than some might have, it being focused on the cultivation of the self  by way of the intellect... but that by stretching it to its borders, but not to defeat it, but to acknowledge its essential undefeatability. You can't not think. You can't not act. The TTC is then painted as a kind of militant, mystical deconstructionist ritual danced out on the altar of the Alien God, petitioning the beyond for more traces, sparksof itself.... each human souls, shadows, inklings of the Pattern we will begin to dance, but never put to speech, though we tell only its story.
'Exout'.... seemed a necessary coinage, glomming together Latin 'ex' (out of) and English 'out'.... with maybe a hint of... exile, exscription crossing out, which seems to be something one wants to do with one's attempts to approach or characterize what one cannot.
I'm sure there is something I missed here, in this text, by saying too much, but that was the particular error which seemed attractive to me at the moment.
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Es, Other, ἄπειρον, ∅, it
The Origo is an emissive emptiness
However, in its deixis, there is no ambiguity
Γνῶσις comprises no words,
But in its utterance, it is a seamless textile of perfectly tau(ght)t strings
The seamless One has no borders,
But in its exitus, it fits perfectly within all of its parts
It has been said of it that it 'is' deep, all-containing, unplumbable, vast, תֹהוּ וָבֹהוּ.....
It would seem only reasonable to assume it to be the origin of all beings and the fields from which they emerge,
but,
Withheld in its acuity,
Loosened with in its entanglement
Softened in its blinding splendour
Its identity is both like and unlike that of the byte or the ἀτόμων with the world.
It is present in its hiddenness, and hidden in presence.
Obscured in its indication, and indicated by its obscurity
Clarified in its erasure, and erased completely by being made clear,
I do not know how I would refer to its history,
being It exout any generation or genesis.
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" The Mind is not talking to us but by means of us. Its narrative passes through us and its sorrow infuses us irrationally. "
~~ Philip K. Dick
I wanted to append this quote, since it speaks to me of the orientation of the TTC to philosophy. We do not grasp the Tao, in essence, that is entirely the wrong formulation. We are grasped, spoken, uttered ourselves. That is the way on which we are set, and this says something to the fractaline Gnostic intersection therewith. One learns the play by acting it out, and in that it is also a Working on the self.
Yes, and. It is yet unwritten.
The main character is the collected and divided Subject, perhaps divine. They may or may not be a schizmogenic democracy performing in the mirror which is each of our own alterior and other selves.
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enough-bleach · 3 years
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Origos: You can't ship IchiRuki because living human can't date the spirit. Origos again: Kazui x Ichika is so cute!
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dreamedsilverwings · 4 years
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If you have Twitter, please report this account. Don't even waste your time discusing.
I don't know if I can report plagiarism on Twitter if you are not the author, if someone can clarify it, would be appreciated. Anyway @ksmile1313, sweety, I am so sorry this shit is happening again, please tell us what we should do.
One thing is that you dislike a ship, but to mess with an artist? That's just mean
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darisu-chan · 4 years
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For the people complaining that why is Tumblr filled with IR, why you lost your poll, and why we keep shipping IR, it’s simple really, we like it so we keep making content
And now, it ain’t sad to still love IR even though it’s canon
“You gotta move on”
Says who?
Little Women Part II was published in 1869, and there are still people out there shipping Jo and Laurie.
You like what you like
Y’all know what’s sad though?
Being canon and still being so pressed by a non-canon ship because you got no official merchandise, official color spreads, nothing, about your canon family.
It’s so damn easy to forget it is a thing.
IR fans still create amazing art, fanfics, AMVs, analyses and so on cause we love Bleach, we love our ship, and we’re creative af
Y’all should use the energy you have being spiteful towards our community to create instead of harrassing IR artists, playing victim, creating random ass polls expecting only other I//H fans to participate instead of the whole community, etc
Also
Newsflash, most shippers, at least back in the day, hated IH with a burning passion and other groups such as GrimmIchi were targeted for not shipping it, so quit wanting everyone to be so damn accepting
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gritsandbrits · 4 years
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Something happen in the Bleach fandom?
Nope! Just me reinforcing my stance on Ichihime and why Orihime is such a terrible character :]
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theginkosakata · 4 years
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©F: ElKaien
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universeinbottle · 5 years
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OFC
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trololol-hime · 5 years
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If you claim Ichigo hair cut and kazui's face are ugly, I'm sure you completely forgot that Ichigo current hairstyle is closely resemble young Isshin and Kazui has similar face with Ichigo !
LOL we don’t give a shit. That doesn't excuse poor and lazy character design, they all look like something you’d find in a shitty fanart in the deep parts of Deviant art. Kazoo looks just like his whore mom, Ichika is just a copy paste of her dad, but more annoying and gender bent. And really? balding ichigo is acceptable just because he looks like his dad? he looks like hes almost 50 and hes supposed to be around 27. Laziness doesn't excuse mediocre art.
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wickedlemony · 6 years
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Unpopular Theory
Ichigo + Kaien = ICHIKA
rUKIA = KAZUI
(SO, basically, Ichigo named his son after Rukia, in scrambbled letters and changes R to Z)
Ichigo scrammbles it so oriino won't notice it of how dumb she really is not to notice Ichi's unconditional feelings for Rukia.
Okay, carry on. Let's keep hating blech ending
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hujikin · 6 years
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"You're just mad we are Canon"
Look Canon means nothing when there is no evidence to back it up. For all the people on the other side (I/H im talking to you). If a student works hard all year, they are know for their hardwork and they are always beibg put on display as the intelligent student(IR) and gets an A+ but then the teacher gives the C student the Award because they tried (or in this case had feelings for the main character😒 even though the manga has no evidence if his feelings not even a little bit...) does that make sense? I think not.
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dreamedsilverwings · 5 years
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Today was the last day on the bleach brave souls new year log in and into your face ICHIGO AND HIS BELOVED ORIHIME WAS THE ONE WHO WERE THE LAST ONE AHAAAA IM JUST LAUGHING SO HARD AT YOU GUYS THIS GAME IS SO CANON AND TRUE AND EVEN APPROVE FROM KUBO YOU CAN JUST HAVE YOUR POOR ICHIRUKI STUFF WHILE WE ALL HAVE THE REAL DEAL
Oh, poor ugly little thing. Real deal? What real deal? All I see is a canon so empty that you have to come to my inbox to "rub" your "triumph" on a videogame event that I don't even pay attention to (and it's not even canon lmao). Do you know what real deal I see? A fandom so miserable that can't even keep you entertained with ship material that you have to come to annoy others. Do you know what else I see about you? Mediocrity, lack of talent, insecurity, all you can do is come here behind anon glasses. I pity you
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darisu-chan · 4 years
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Why are orgs being so annoying over Twitter attacking IR artists?
And then they dare call us toxics
Lmao
You guys don’t fool anyone
And before another blog with a hero complex or whatever comes in the tag to say “both sides stop fighting!” The main attacks are very one-sided... like their ship
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gritsandbrits · 4 years
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The fact that there's virtually no Anti Rukia/Ichiruki tags compared to Anti Orihime/Ichihime and the majority of the posts brings up legitimate issues with the latter says a lot about Orihime's character and Kubo's writing.
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