#anti jerza

[gralunaisland]

Tell me what are your thoughts on Jerza?

Graluna's Pro Jerza Masterlist

Hi, my friend! To make this easy, I'll use your ask to compile a few of my Jerza posts so it's easy for you to find them.

A post on why Jerza is very healthy:

2. A post on what I ship in FT, which includes Jerza:

3. A post that is most in depth analysis of Jerza that I have:

4. On the opposite side, here's a post for those Anti Jerza people who want to know if it's alright to be a Jerza Anti:

I go more in depth in these posts linked above so I don't think I need to rewrite it, but my very much abridged answer is I like Jerza a lot and is one of the few ships I have for FT! It's honestly one of the best things Mashima has written, especially romance-wise, and I think the way Erza and Jellal act within this ship is extremely laudable since they're both wise and mature.

Thank you for your ask and your continued support! All hail Jerza!

(I'll tag all the anti gr///via and juvia tags because if someone were to click through any of these posts, they'd be bombarded with anti stuff, and I don't want to ambush people).

[fairytail-multishipper]

It’s not just the gays against Gruvia, Jerza, Zervis, and NaLu, the ace-spec frens can’t stand them either :)

Agreed

[pamayapaya]

It’s been a while since I mentioned it actually now that I think about it

aHeM

I HATE THE FAIRY TAIL BIG FOUR (+ the other super popular het ships by extension)

I HATE THEM ALL! THEY ALL SUCK (although to different degrees)

THEY’RE ALL SOME OF THE WORST SHIPS I’VE EVER SEEN AND I’M GLAD THAT NONE OF THEM ARE CANON (except Gaj//evy which I actually tolerate)

[incorrect-fandomxquotes]

Gray: We used to think that no man was good enough for Erza

Jellal: Thank—

Natsu: We still think that.

[fttwts]

what're your opinions on popular ft ships? you can talk about any you like i'm just curious which ones you like and which ones you don't. specifically laxus and gray tho 👀

inspired by your post about erik / kinana !!

If by popular you mean the big 4 then I don’t like any one of those sorry 💀

I shortly summarized why i don’t like Jerza a while back

Gajevy is kinda boring and it developed forcefully and out of nowhere, one day Gajeel was hanging the team shadow gear to a tree and the next day Levy had already forgiven him and was crushing on him like girl stand up

+ I hate how Levy’s character went from being important in the earlier seasons and actually having a personality to being reduced to a love interest once Mashima decided to pair her up with Gajeel for some reason

As for Nalu, it’s not that i don’t like them, I just can’t see them as more than friends. This may be a little petty but i think the two main protagonists of a manga about friendship shouldn’t end up together in the end. Kinda crushes the whole point lmao

And then there’s Gruvia man…

They could’ve handled it way better if they’d just put in the effort. Instead, we got the obsessed stalker trope… and apparently everyone’s ok with that. Sigh.

“It’s canon now” i don’t care, being canon doesn’t make something immune to criticism and saying that Gruvia is just straight up bad writing is common sense i fear

Juvia’s character’s only purpose is to be in love with Gray. No other personality trait whatsoever. Take her out of the story and nothing would really change except for some of the ‘comic relief’

Mashima literally had to force Gray’s personality into doing a 180 in 100yq for him to start liking Juvia

Since you asked which ships I like, I suppose you mean the popular ones and not the rarepairs, I have way too many of those lmao.

My favorite ‘popular’ ship with Gray is Graylu; I like Gratsu too but not that much for it to be one of my favorites

I have a soft spot for Nali since i’m a sucker for the childhood friend trope

I also like Lolu a lot

You asked for Laxus too, but I don’t like any of the popular ships involving him. I don’t see the point in Miraxus even existing except for the amount of heteronormativity in this fandom, and Fraxus doesn’t really do it for me. They’re cute tho

A bunch of the ‘crack’ ships I like can be seen in some of my posts lmao

Btw i’m not shading on anyone who likes the big 4 or any other ship i mentioned, this is just my opinion and everyone can ship whatever they want :)

[gajeelenjoyer]

Butch Erza Headcanon/Redesigned Erza Explained

(By the way I’m 100% OK with sharing all my hcs, so if you want in on this train PLEASE hop on)

In canon Erza supposedly lost her right eye. She receives a fake eye later. Because of this, it’s quite easy to forget Erza lost an eye (in short she has to have TWO EYES so she can be SEXY in the eyes of MEN). I feel it’s better to actually show that she’s missing an eye with a neat scar. Not just her one eye being covered Sometimes.

Erza throughout the entire series (unlike say, Lucy or even Juvia) has been more of a physical fighter and relied on her magic as WELL as her stamina in combat. So why is she so skinny? Not anymore, bitch. We’ve Beefed Her Up.

Not only do I draw her bigger, but I draw her taller. The tallest girl in this guild.

All those armors where she shows the most skin possible? Disregarded. Abandoned. Absolutely not going to work here I may be a simple lesbian Mashima but in this house we draw real women.

I wanted to give her short hair and I didn’t know what hairstyle to go with but one day I went “hee hoo Trunks Dragon Ball” and now she has that.

Lesbian. This is a Lesbian Woman. She Likes Women. Je/rza stans don’t even think about it.

tl;dr Hiro Mashima is a bitch coward and can’t draw other body types for women

[underestimated-heroine]

Warning: 100YQ-negative post (it's fine if you like it but I'm critical of it)

This latest chapter of 100YQ, for me, really just serves as another instance of fan indulgence serving as a counterpoint to fan betrayal with this Fairy Tail spinoff, wherein each chapter is just one or a series of coin flips between the two.

Idk but when nalu's been transformed into an entirely different relationship than the one I got to know in the original series, these toasty Jerza/Jellal nuggets (and even world-building nuggets, with the wizard school!) just are NOT hitting the way they could be, for me. I appreciate them and think they're interesting, but when Natsu's this flanderized, when he's lost this much depth & growth as a character...the story has also lost trust with me.

I'm not thinking "wow, that's so cool Mashima shared this lore with us!" but "huh, so that's what they spontaneously came up with to generate material for 100yq." It feels less like consistent, passionate storytelling (even of the indulgent variety) than it does a manga generator meant to keep revenue alive rather than the story itself.

And I'm grateful to it both because I love fairy tail enough to take even scraps and love that it's keeping the fandom alive but idk, it's hard not to feel somewhat let down...

[procellasdracon]

Can you tell me why Erza and Jellal are not compatible, personality-wise? I know a lot of Anti-Jerza folks dislike the pairing because of their past and their lack of interaction. But if they do end up dating sometime in the future, can you honestly tell me if they can connect with each other? Because the Jerza fanfictions I’ve read don’t really.. feel right. It always seems like Jellal or Erza are too OOC. So I’m hoping to get some perspective from a non shipper of this pairing.

I can’t guarantee that my views will explain the ‘why’ of it, but maybe it will give you something to think about. Of course we all know that people will slam a square into a circular hole to ‘make it fit’, even moreso with manga/anime characters, so there will be people who just don’t care and they want to pair them together just ‘cuz’. I don’t like that logic but I am more than guilty of it so I can’t say anything against that kind of thinking.

What I don’t like is how people are substituting what may be a ‘good romance’ to be indicative of a ‘good relationship’ or even a happy ending for that romance. The two are not mutually exclusive. But just try explaining that to an infatuated teenager ‘in love’. They are convinced that no matter the odds that their ‘love’ will prevail against anything and everything. This is exactly what some people try to project onto Jerza, despite Mashima himself saying that they are ‘star-crossed lovers’. How many stories with ‘star-crossed lovers’ end up having an ending where both are alive and well and together? Answer - not many, especially in Asian stories. But who cares - its romantic.

Obviously I don’t like the Jerza pairing and a lot of it has to do with one word - ‘romantic’. It is considered THE romantic pairing in Fairy Tail - people flock to it like mosquitoes to a Zapper. But… where and what is the romance in that pairing? The fact that they have ‘feelings’ for each other? The fact that he has blue hair and she has red? Because he makes her cry at night when she’s alone? Because she knew him back when she was at her lowest point and he helped her through it, along with their other mutual friends? That he was obviously her first crush? That he’s taller than her? The fact that she acts so differently towards him versus anyone else? That she didn’t smash him when he grabbed her boobs? All these things make some people go ‘kyaah’ and people use these as the ‘facts’ of Jerza. But being perfectly honest, Jerza just fulfills that ‘romantic itch’ that people have - plain and simple. They don’t care about how realistic it is or is not - just the fact that they love each other but can’t be together because of angst makes people champion them together.

At first, Jellal was the dangerously handsome bad-boy that had a possessive streak with Erza about a ‘dirty little secret’. Ooooh, tingly~ And then thanks to some story amnesia, he gets ‘reset’ to a brooding dark prince character who is both edgy and handsome but still good. She then becomes his ‘shining knight’ ready to defend him against any and all comers who would dare try to take Jellal away from her, because that ‘romance’ that can overcome all odds~  And then at the end, he tries to become the shining prince rushing to save her from across time and space the battlefield. Its like every time you see him, he becomes someone else… The truth is - we don’t know enough about Jellal - no history aside for Erza, no real motivation other than to make up for all the bad things he did to Erza, and no real purpose in his life other than Erza. He’s an accessory to her - he’s not a character. He’s amounts to no more than a piece of jewelry for her. There is very little substance to him and what substance he had was torn away from him with that little personality reset. So what is there to build his personality off of? Not a whole lot - just his interactions with Erza for the most part and a few panels with him and Ultear and Meredy. We just infer what we can see of him and people run with it.

On the surface, it seems like they are a good romantic match. Erza’s loud, and brash, easily excitable, hot-headed while Jellal’s calm, thoughtful, smarter, sensitive yet driven towards his goal (whatever it may be), caring and has a puppy look that can melt steel into goo. (Fun fact, you can replace Erza with Natsu and Jellal with Erza and it reads virtually the same way). The reason Jerza may seem OOC when others try to write it is because no one knows enough about Jellal to make him stand on his own without him being attached to Erza in some way. This is why I say that them being in an AU is the only way for them to be viable. Even how they are written in canon is forced to hell and back with souvenirs - just ask Ultear, Kagura, and Milianna. There was a lot of issues not only between them, but between people that they both knew and had a prominent place in Erza’s life that was just ‘dropped’ in favor of pushing them together for angsty romance. But what they are doing is pushing the fun parts of their personalities together to make the most romantic moments happen between them - nothing about how Jellal has to deal with all that baggage, which should and will be a very long and tiring road for Erza to travel. But like I said, its the ideal angsty romance potential that what ropes so many for Jerza - even if she may be happier with someone else.

I can’t doubt that Jellal loves Erza - its plain to see that he does have feelings for her. Does he deserves Erza’s love - hell no, and he knows that. Yet Erza loves him in spite of everything he’s done and I am sure that he, while grateful, is also in pain because of it - because he feels he’s not worthy of it. Why doesn’t he feel worthy - probably because he feels that he hasn’t done enough to try and ‘make up’ for all the ‘evil’ that he’s done. Until he forgives himself, every time he looks at Erza, all he really sees is what he did to her (and some of the others from the Tower - maybe). If he doesn’t forgive himself or if he doesn’t earn the forgiveness from those he actually wronged, then he’s going to go into self-loathing and probably try to kill himself. The entire world is forgiving him but what is he actually doing to ‘earn’ it? Some will say that you ‘earn forgiveness’ and they are right - you don’t ‘earn’ it - but that doesn’t mean that the trust that was once there is just as easily rebuilt. And it’s not just Erza’s trust in him - all their mutual friends as well - the ones that she endured all those years of supposed mental anguish for - and nothing is heard about them because she’s moving forward with her life - while dragging Jellal with her towards a better tomorrow.

Some people say that she’s moving forward by forgiving him but the reason she’s forgiving him is suspect. To me, she wants to forgive him so that he can return to how he once was - back when he was the young, idealistic, young boy that inspired her all those years ago - the boy she fell in love with. But when he proves to not be that boy and that he can’t/won’t return to it, she breaks down crying. I am aware of how selfish people can be and yes, I can see that happening - after that incident, she seems resigned to not having a romantic relationship with him, which is also when he starts getting the cameos of him being put in intimate proximity of Erza in at least two omakes as if to say, ‘remember this guy - yeah Erza loves him and him alone’. But things like that are not relationship-building - it is just ‘romantic fluff’.  And it’s all swept under the fact that ‘Erza loves Jellal’ - that’s it and it’s pointless to question it because ‘that’s just Erza’ is a viable excuse for what she does in the story.

The way I see it, Erza and some Jerza fans collectively are in love with the idea of being in love. Like Erza, they see the romantic story potential between them and gush over how great it would be for these two to be together since they are so opposite each other - it will be fun to see how well they ‘click’ together. They ‘look’ like a perfect couple, but in FT, I really don’t think they should be a couple. Friends that share a dark past, yes. She remains in the light while he remains in the dark - yes. Her actually moving on from trying to make him into her romantic project would have been nice. Yes he inspired her past and she would be forever grateful for that - but now he doesn’t have much to inspire her with - he is the one that needs inspiration, not romance. Too much has happened between them that was not resolved properly for me to consider them being romantic partners - he needs a therapist more than anything. And its frustrating because I know he (Mashima) could have written them many times better than he did.

[stopbeingrude]

Reminder that hating on any new gen kids just cause u hate parent/parents is lowest one can ever get, aside from the fact they're fictional characters and it pathetic, it's not their fault who their parents are.

But stay mad if u want& like it.

[fairytail-multishipper]

JERZAAAAA, Eratsu, Jellyon, Lyredy, Lyoray. I also A D O R E Canajane and Fraxus. And Luvia. And LELU. SO MANY GOOD SHIPS TBH???

JerzaMeh? I don’t really care for this one.Jellal just wants to prove he’s not the same man he once was.

EratsuI find this one really cute!Erik is surprisingly cuddly, not that Natsu minds.

JellyonThis is… Really cute?!Lyon met Jellal at a cafe, after Jellal had been cleared of all his crimes. They talked for hours.

LyeredyI actually hate this ship.Meredy was surprised when Gray told her that Lyon also practiced Ice Magic.

LyorayI used to only see this as a BrOTP, but it’s growing on me.They often argue over who Ur would give away if they got married.

CanajaneLove it! So flipping much!Mirajane loves the color of Cana’s eyes.

FraxusI’ve answered this before, I’ll answer it again…. LOVE IT!!!!!Both surprisingly good with children, but they are also both incredibly awkward around children.

LuviaI love it! So much better than Gruvia and Nalu!Lucy loves to braid Juvia’s hair, it’s always so soft.

LeluI love it! I love it! I love it!Levy was the first person that Lucy came out too.

[beebeeswee]

quick fire headcannons! fairy tail as taylor swift songs!

Nalu - Superman (Speak Now)

Jerza - Death By A Thousand Cuts (Lover)

Nalu - Lavender Haze (Midnights)

Juvia - Enchanted (Speak Now)

Mirajane - Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? (TTPD) (this one hurts)

Juvia - Anti-Hero (Midnights) (this one hurt even more)

Gajevy - I Can See You (Speak Now TV) (blushin & kickin my feet)

Lisanna, Lucy, Wendy - Clara Bow (TTPD)

Jerza - hoax (folklore)

Nalu - If This Was A Movie (Fearless) (the 1 year timeskip...)

Wendy - A Place in this World (Debut)

Erza and Mirajane - The Man (Lover)

Lucy and Michelle - Seven (folklore)

Fraxus - Delicate (Reputation) (!HEAR ME OUT!)

Jerza - Fresh Out The Slammer (TTPD) (...)

Gajevy - But Daddy I Love Him (TTPD)

Nalu / Gajevy / Fraxus - So High School (TTPD) (specifically "you know how to ball / i know aristotle")

Long Live (Speak Now) is just the fairytail guild anthem let's be real

[xterier]

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[fantasyandromancelover]

Attention all Anti-Nalu, Anti-Gruvia, Anti-Jerza, Anti-Gajevy, people. I want you to know a few things.

1. These are fictional characters and fictional pairings. They are not real, you are posting hateful comments about something that does not exist. So what exactly do you hope to accomplish here?

2. None of these couples would actually work in real life. None of them. Not one couple is completely healthy and rational realistically speaking. But good news, they are not real. They are in a fantasy world, so who cares if logically they’re unhealthy or not?

And 3. This is a person’s life’s work. Their art and their writing, something that they work very hard on. So to insult them like this is very cruel and rude. If you don’t like what they create then don’t read it and keep your mouth shut. Nobody is forcing you to read the manga. This person has the freedom to write whatever they please. So can’t show a little decency and respect? Or at least have the curtesy of keeping your opinions to yourself?

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of characters and shippings that I despise, but I don’t talk about it because A. It’s stupid to obsessively hate something fictional and B. I understand a person’s passion for writing and I would not want to hurt their feelings. I recognize that the writers and artists are real people with real feelings. But no, you only care about fictional characters, the ones who aren’t real.

Seriously, what’s wrong with you people? Don’t you have anything better to do? Get a life!

[freakinname]

Unpopular opinion.

If i'm being honest, i'm not really a fan of JeRza cuz not having grown up with FT or "The Big 4 ship", I'd just find them completely moronic. I kinda don't mind GruVia or GaLe cuz I don't really care for them that much however, I greatly despised NaLu cuz I get the feeling, it will be an unhealty relationship where that Natsu would caused so many problems to Lucy to the point of extreme levels of headaches. Lucy deserves someone 10 times better than that retard. Also, it's kinda feels forced in my opinion. As for JeRza... I used to hate Jellal but now I don't really care about him, he's kinda just.... there? That ship just wasn't for me. Sometimes I don't understand what Erza sees in him? But truth to be told, I kinda have a fictional crush on Erza. I don't like Jerza cuz they're relatinship feels kinda tiring and kinda boring. Also, they need years of psychological therapy which I never see them do. I really don't like it when Erza changes deamanor wherever she's around that pretty boy. It kinda feels just like when Sakura changes wherever she's around Sasuke(although, I hate Sakura for personal reasons). I mean, why ship that? When Erza can have so many fun ship dynamics with tons of other characters. But hey, it's just an or a cartoon/anime/manga. None of these relationships could work in real life... Although, I could be wrong.

[gralunaisland]

I just wanted to ask,

Is it okay for me to be a J///erza Anti?

I have my reasons for not shipping the ship, but at the same time I wonder if I'm just being difficult and trying to be "different".

One part of me is like, "J///Erza shouldn't be canon because the whole Jellal almost killed Erza, and has been the cause of her trauma ever since she was a child." But the other part of me is like, "But the fans ship it, they see that Erza has forgiven him and they have official art, even their potential future son has been drawn."

It's Okay to Be a Jerza Anti (Coming from a Jerza Shipper)

Thank you so much for coming to me with this ask! I'll give you my opinion on the subject to try to help you out.

It's completely okay for you to be Anti Jerza!

Really, everyone has a right to hate whatever ship they want to! That really comes down to personal preference, and it's very subjective, not objective.

But even beyond that, you have very understandable reasons to not like it, don't worry. I totally understand where you're coming from. The trauma Jellal inflicted on Erza at such a young age will probably never completely heal. He enslaved "willing" workers to work for him after manipulating them to think Erza was the one who had cut off their chances at escape. He killed Simon. He brutalized Erza and banished her.

Those aren't easy things to forgive. And it's really completely fine for you to not forgive those things. I'd say it just shows your empathy for what Erza had to endure, which is a good thing!

For me, the reason I ship Jerza is that I attribute all the horrible things he did to Ultear manipulating him into doing them with her magic. He thought he was doing the right thing in a dark and twisted way. I also appreciate the following arcs where Jellal is on a mission to atone for his sins and to better himself in repentance. Honestly, in my opinion, it's one of the best things Mashima has written.

But that doesn't mean you have to take that perspective! Because even though I don't blame him, it doesn't change the fact that he did commit all those harmful acts, so it's easy to see why people wouldn't like him regardless of his redemption arc.

I hope you won't feel pressured to like a ship just because other fans ship it. Fandoms seldom agree on most things, so it's natural to disagree with even a large portion of a fandom. I for one am a part of a smaller subgroup of fans who hates gr///via and all that it is (clearly haha) but there's a reason why gr///via, and Jerza, are a part of the Big Four--most people ship it. Doesn't make them right whatsoever, which is something I try to prove on this blog of mine.

I also would take official art as well as drawings of potential children as inconsequential. We shouldn't care if Mashima likes a ship or imagined their futures together. Manga authors are just as imperfect as the rest of us, so he could (and does) very well promote terrible, toxic ships. ( I talk about this topic in this post actually, I recommend checking it out!)

I hope this reassures you that your opinion matters. Don't be swayed by the masses; stand strong in what you like and dislike! >:D You got this, I believe in ya!

(Thank you for your patience!)

[xterier]

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