#anti daniel larusso

[flower1622]

I really don't like his character or his family in Cobra Kai.

Daniel is so goddamn stupid. Like, not even in a sort of endearing himbo sort of way. In a “totally self destructive because he’s so arrogant and cannot fathom that he is perpetuating this rivalry” sort of way which has been his whole MO for 4 seasons now. The man has had no growth. None. Johnny has grown and regressed and now is… at least back to a slightly improved status quo I think, but why is Daniel so damn DUMB?

[sleepyicon]

i’ve come to the conclusion that tumblr is the only sensible place to interact with the ck fandom

[rosie-tyler]

Hey hey, you you

I know that you like me

No way no way

I know it's not a secret

Hey hey, you you

I want to be your boyfriend.

[msfbgraves]

It's so wild to me on a CK rewatch that the writers gave Daniel a son with insane psychological insight who knew:

-His sister was a wanted child and he was an accident;

-His parents demonstrably favoured his sister over him (he's not in the family photos beside their bed for chrissake)

-His parents don't care he knows as he never gets a reaction when he points this out to their face, not even one of reassurance (seriously the heart next to his baby photos in the scrapbook says "gotta love me" - a duty then, not a joy)

-Knew his father has a violent streak he hides even from himself;

-Knew his attention is entirely conditional: you either do what he likes (eating or karate), or he'll ignore you completely unless you act out (case in point: he replaced him with some random kid he moved into the house who did do karate)

-Had "friends" whose love was also entirely conditional, but was so terrified of being alone he was willing to be a bully rather than friendless

-Resented all of this so much he has stopped trying to work for anything, what's the point

-"Anthony you make everything worse"

-Had both an eating disorder and a screen addiction about this at like 12 ("Anthony, stop drinking the butter!")

And then CK went: "Whatever, we only created this kid to show Daniel is a loser who can't parent a Real Man" and promptly forgot about him for the rest of the show

Anthony LaRusso may not be an entirely fun person, but neither is Tory but at least we as the audience get to comiserate with her

The only one we can see give Anthony any positive attention before S5 is his grandma

I bet you Lucille LaRusso is the tech savviest grandma in her whole neighbourhood because she will have shown an interest in him and now she knows how to hack the smartfridges of people she hates

Will someone please make some actual time for this boy....! Even if Daniel was consumed with mad worry and grief over Miyagi right when Anthony was born we've seen Amanda spend more time with Tory than with him and that's his mother!

Yes, he's just some gremlin but under these circumstances, who wouldn't be??

[flower1622]

The only good thing from the Larusso family is Amanda.

It's the way both of Daniel's kids started out as bullies and yet he's the perfect dad.

[johnnyslvr]

⁺‧₊˚ ཐི⋆♱⋆ཋྀ ˚₊‧⁺

ཐིཋྀ⋆ Born to be married and have 4 kids with Ralph Macchio, forced to be a teen girl fangirling over him ꒰ᐢ. .ᐢ꒱

[ryanjudgesthings]

Daniel LaRusso being told as a child by his abuser that the crane kick is weak and won't defeat anyone only for Daniel to grow up and crane kick that same abuser in the face is immensely satisfying, I'm just saying.

[flower1622]

Anti Daniel and Anti Sam? Awesome!

when you finally get your friend to watch a show but they diss both your favorite characters

[hazel-eyedserpent]

!!!VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED: THIS IS AN ANTI-SILVERUSSO POST!!!!

No! STOP IT! I don’t like Daniel with Terry! He is literally the ONLY of Daniel’s former rivals/enemies, that has ABSOLUTELY ZERO redeeming qualities, or moments, at any point that I’ve seen him.

Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate that my friends know how much I love the Karate Kid series, and Cobra Kai. And I wouldn’t put someone down because they ship them.

But…this is how I feel when my friends send me pictures and posts about Silverusso….

[shrinkthisviolet]

Samtory, Lawrusso, and Danmiko for the ship bingo!!

Samtory/Lanichols:

I love this ship! I doubt it’ll be canon, and tbh I’m fine with that, because generally there are only a few authors I trust to write it well anyway (and within the canon, Samguel has been the driving force throughout all the seasons, so it would be bizarre to throw that away). Canonically, I just want Samtory friendship. Thank you s5 for that (even tho Sam apologizing to Tory first was weird…literally why)

I think Sam and Tory have a fascinating dynamic that some fanfic authors make brilliant use of—and yes, I did color in “they could fix each other” and “they could make each other worse” because tbh it could go either way and I think it goes both ways at times 😂 in fanon, they’re amazing! I have 3 fics about them in my AO3 recs, which I highly recommend 💞

Lawrusso:

I’ve talked before about how I don’t like this ship as much as I used to, and it’s because I liked it back when Johnny was a more interesting character who seemed to have an actual arc and growth going for him. There was even a time when I shipped Lawrussomanda (aka the ship with no good OT3 name), because the three of them had such a great dynamic in the early seasons!

But my dislike of Lawrusso now stems from my dislike of Johnny as a character. So much regression and so much backsliding and pointless drama *sigh* I only like them when Johnny is written as a better character (which is why it depends who’s writing them and how they write Johnny).

(However if you wanna read a great fic about them…Root Beer Floats and Green Tea by @desolateice is super long but so incredibly worth it imo 💞 it’s movie-verse and picks up right after KK1!!)

Damiko:

In the movies, they’re my absolute OTP 💞 in the show, Amaniel’s married, so Damiko besties. Hence, it’s complicated 😂 I liked a few of their s3 scenes, but some others felt like ship-teasing (and I somewhat believe that they dropped the Chozen x Kumiko tease because they realized that they implied emotional cheating and had to cover it up)

I will always, however, side-eye the show writers for not making Damiko married at the show’s outset when it would’ve been so easy to get them back together. Like?? Would that not also make Sam’s arc more interesting?? A half-Japanese kid (maybe one who looks white passing, if they wanna keep Mary Mouser)?? Especially if they kept the white-passing aspect, it could’ve contributed to Sam’s conflict between karate/heritage and fitting in! I just…*sigh*

(This series, btw, is a fantastic Damiko post-KK2 AU, I can’t recommend it enough 💞)

[darkcrowprincess]

(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you)

Lawrusso thoughts: for me personally Daniel is the only one for Johnny. But I could see Daniel with several other people(besides Amanda 🤮, never Amanda). Kumiko, Terry Silver, Chozen. But god do I have a soft spot for Johnny and Daniel being together. I could maybe see Johnny and Allie have a second chance romance together if it was better written, Johnny actually had a decently written redemption arc, Daniel was happily married to Kumiko. But over all Lawrusso is my otp. I just all the romantic writing potential they could have if we lived in better world. Thank goodness for fanfiction.

They are soulmates I tell you! Soulmates!

[flower1622]

I don' really like him and his daughter

"You've burned bridges with pretty much everyone here." Daniel is so mean, especially for someone whose supposed to be the nice one. At least when Johnny is mean to his students he wants them to be better. Daniel isn't wrong. He just could have said it in a better way.

[rosesradio]

Hi, do you mind if I pick your brain about the pro/antiship thing? I'd like to check first because it's a dumpster fire of a controversy in fandom spaces and I'd 100% understand not wanting to touch it with a ten-foot pole. But also cuz it mentions somethin triggering+disturbing.I've always wondered what another person might think but I usually try to stay miles away from fandom drama, but you seem like, not chronically online about it

lmaoo thank you, i try to make my blog a chill, safe space to come to despite me being. Not chill about anything ever 😅

so here’s the definition of each that i added to the poll:

Proshippers argue that shipping is all fictional, so there is no harm in shipping characters who shouldn’t be together in real life. Anti-shippers argue that fiction reflects and influences real-world beliefs and behaviors, so fans shouldn’t romanticize unhealthy relationships. You can be proship and not ship any problematic ships, or vice versa.

i got these definitions, with my own addition at the end, from a Reddit thread you might find helpful.

so i’ve been in fandom for many years, and up until around 2022 i was mostly what would be considered an anti-shipper.

within the (*gags*) sanders sides fandom, there was a ship called remrom. this was the ship between the characters roman and remus, canonically twin brothers. i never shipped it, not my thing, and it caused a lot of division in the fandom. people would often put on their wattpad (yeahhh wattpad era babey) profiles & even their fics “dni & leave if you ship remrom, go die” etc. i don’t think i put that on my own fics, but i was hostile & blocked people i found shipping it. because how could you ship twin brothers, that’s disgusting!!1!

…the funny thing about sanders sides, though, is that all of the characters represent fragments of one guy’s personality. roman is his creativity, remus is his dark!creativity, etc. the fandom shipped many other pairings with the (non-related) characters, the most popular being Roman and Virgil (anxiety). (Yes this is causing me physical pain to type out thanks for asking 🧍). so all that exposition aside…we were all shipping selfcest. and in a way, is selfcest any worse than incest? i suppose that’s subjective, but it just goes to show a bit of hypocrisy.

i also shipped some “problematic” pairings over the years, but changed them up to be “non-problematic”. for example, i had a billdip fic in which i made bill bodily 15 to match dipper & had him turn magically human (does this make the ship entirely non-problematic? hell no lmao, but as is the way of 15-year-old rose)

so that aside, i joined tumblr in 2022, in the cobra kai fandom. there’s a ship in the cobra kai fandom called silverusso, a ship between an insane(ly hot? don’t look at me 🫣) karate instructor named silver and the main character, daniel larusso. this ship is extremelyyy toxic on several levels. for one, daniel is freshly 18, while silver is assumed to be in his 30s(?) during karate kid 3 (please watch karate kid 3 but also be sure you’re sober when doing so because the movie is a trip, lol). for another, silver essentially seduces daniel into devolving into a violent robot, primed for silver’s command & corruption.

now for me…i’m not going to get into the details because i don’t want to, but i had experienced trauma somewhat related to the silverusso dynamic the previous year (only with minimal karate, lol). even three years later, i am still impacted by said trauma in small ways. i was honestly insulted by people shipping this ship, because it felt like they didn’t care about victims & were romanticizing and sexualizing situations i was having nightmares about.

that is, until i made some friends in the fandom. i bonded with them on our common interests, and then i got to see a bit more into the silverusso shippers’ heads rather than the horrible things i was hearing about them from others. i learned that they really weren’t that bad people at all, all well-intentioned & respectful of boundaries. some of them were even victims of trauma similar to my own, who used darkfic as a place to vent their emotions. considering i had told very few people of what happened, considering no one really understood, i felt safe.

not to plug, but this is a fic i wrote sort of in that space lol

so anyways, i learned more & more about proshipping ways, profiction, anti-harassment, & anti-censorship. i adopted the take that fiction can be a good place to explore complex emotions or even just compelling ideas.

(because you do not need to be traumatized to be interested in darkfic! in fact, the anti-ship take of “darkfic is okay if you’re recovering from trauma” is often harmful to victims, forcing them to out themselves for a stranger to judge if they’re “traumatized enough” to be “allowed” write darkfic. people should be free to write whatever with no explanation, just respect to others & proper tags/warnings).

i would like to think that the anti-ship ideals are in the best interest of others. they often do speak from a place of wanting to respect trauma victims (even if the hate messages they’ve sent me aren’t very respectful, lol). i can see how easy it is to be swept up into the moral quandary of it all because i’ve been there. in fact, if i saw trauma victims who were anti-shippers today, who felt the same resentment i did in 2022, i would feel sympathy for them and wish them the best in their recovery. darkfic has definitely helped me, though it is not for everyone. (though to those people i would also recommend they block bothersome tags and try to clear it from their mind).

i do wish people would approach actual proshippers to ask the way you are right now, anon. i think the spread of misinformation on how “being proship = shipping only problematic pairings” or god forbid “being proship = being a pedo” means a lot of well-meaning people obviously are disgusted and don’t bother to seek out the actual meaning of the term.

you don’t have to ship problematic parings or like darkfic to be considered proship. in fact, a lot of my mutuals here only like fluff & traditionally “healthy” pairings, but they support people’s right to ship and write whatever they want, provided it stays in its properly tagged lane. it’s just important to not push for censorship on sites like ao3 (one of the last safe spaces for every kind of fanfic), as well as not harass anyone in fandom for what they do with fiction. it’s not proper fandom etiquette, and it’s not a good thing to do.

fictional characters are dolls. real people are real, as are their feelings.

one last thing

i hope all of that answered your question, anon, and feel free to return with any more questions you might have 💌

[miyagi-hokarate]

whats are some of your favorite lawrusso fanfics?

(mind immediately blanks) uhhhh

I haven't been doing a lot of reading these days, and I'm a bit picky about what fics I read 😖, but a couple of my all-time favorites:

Anti-Hero by @pinkgrapefloyd – Canon Divergence fic where Robby is the one to get into an accident at the end of season 2, gets amnesia, and thinks Daniel and Johnny are divorced — cue Robby the Matchmaker helping to "get them back together." It's hilarious, emotional, and it's getting a sequel!! I literally reread it about ten times?? I ADORE this, I can't help it

the heart wants what it wants by @transjlawrence – Time Loop Fic circling Johnny during the day of the 1984 All Valley Tournament. I read this in one sitting, and it was the greatest 50k read in that ahfkakfj. Johnny is an absolute delight as you read him growing and trying so hard to escape the cycle (in more ways than one) and his interactions with various characters throughout the loops

The An American Werewolf In Denial Series by thembonesthembones – Johnny is a werewolf and his heart keeps howling for recent new kid Daniel LaRusso. Technically a series, but one of my favorites. (Kicks Johnny) this boy can fit so much agitated pining.

Daniel LaRusso, karate, and the soul of the San Fernando Valley by @deputychairman – half epistolary of an interview for Daniel LaRusso and his influence in his community two-time All Valley Tournament champion abd current successful businesman, half the truth of the journalist getting oddly competitive and aggressive (as one does with Daniel), with Johnny to witness. I've always been a sucker for epistolaries, and this is an absolute delight to read all around if you love meta commentary, accidental undercurrents of homoeroticism from confused straight men, and Daniel+Johnny silently laughing about this guy together

The Anabasis Series by @deputychairman again – Mr. Miyagi comes back as a ghost — but only haunting Johnny (or at first). Dark and angsty, but very #ProtectDanielLaRusso vibes. The second part just has one chapter left before it's finished, and I await the day it comes 🙏

Love Mechanics by @abracazabka – I'm just going to straight up steal Dre's summary for this fic: "𝘏𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘮𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘤. 𝘏𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘊𝘢𝘯 𝘐 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘰𝘣𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴?" Just SO fun and cute, reading these idiots crushing on each other. And I Am Not Immune To Custructionworker!Johnny and Mechanic!Daniel.

I have to give a shoutout to but the noise goes on by my dear mutual @landslided, currently unfinished but AMAZING with its first chapter already!! Johnny and Daniel are reimagined as women, and nothing changes. These women are so shitty ❤️❤️

[darkcrowprincess]

Crying 😢 They should have gotten to grow old together! It's like Yukie and Mr Miyagi all over again!!!!

DANIEL LARUSSO AND KUMIKO COBRA KAI SEASON 3 EPISODE 5 DELETED SCENE : “daniel-san, you are a good man.“ “well, i don’t know about all that.“ “i do.“

[rosie-tyler]

Daniel 100% designed the LaRusso home, that's why it's so warm and cozy and welcoming. Also: he is very anti Beige Moms of Tik Tok and believes they sadly suffer from Beige Disease.

ABSOLUTELY Daniel LaRusso the malewife to them all💙💙💙💙💙

He thinks Beige Thing is a crime against humanity and so do I

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