#anti cas hate

[kal-derash]

Unpopular opinion - Gadreel's attempt at redeeming himself was way better than Castiel trying to redeem himself by trying to fix things in season 6 by swallowing the souls in purgatory and working with Metatron in season 8.

Also, I'm still bitter that Dean never found out Castiel let Sam out the panic room or that the angels changed the voicemail. Balthazar should've been the new angel on their side.

[dreamytfw]

Over my 12 years of being in the fandom, I've encountered quite a few new fans who are always very surprised at how defensive Sam fans are. Then I see the same handful of (somehow popular) cliquey Dean fans constantly talking shit about Sam fans. They'll do things like generalize a few toxic outliers as the entirety of Sam fans. Or they'll put blatant anti posts in the Sam Winchester tag and then act like "omggg those Sam girls are SO unhinged" when they get push back. Meanwhile, someone points out something Dean did IN CANON that is unambiguously morally bad they lose their minds and call that person an anti, regardless of who they actually do or don't like.

And I'm like YEAH CAN'T IMAGINE WHY SAM FANS ARE SO DEFENSIVE SURE IS A MYSTERY

[misssakurapetal28]

C@tra Stans: OMG why people are criticizing C@tra so much!? She’s a literal teenager! Poor baby! 🥺

Also C@tra Stans: OMG C@tra and C//A is SO sexy and spicy! I love it! 😍😍😍

[angel-fruitcake]

when one of my mutuals posts about a ship i don't love but i still support them and their opinions

[vaicomcas]

I have voted.

Now to fulfil my other civic duty. I don't care if it gets zero notes.

The Opposite of Happiness (2277 words) by FlounderofThursday Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Supernatural (TV 2005) Rating: Not Rated Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Castiel & Dean Winchester, Castiel & Crowley (Supernatural) Characters: Castiel (Supernatural), Crowley (Supernatural), Dean Winchester, Jack Kline (mentioned) Additional Tags: Dean Winchester Being an Asshole, Alternate S15E18, anti Canon narrative Summary: Castiel made his confession, but the Empty did not take him. Because that was not happiness. That was the opposite of happiness.

[angelsdean]

seeing ppl reblog a “shitpost” where dean homophobically rejects Cas in the confession not realizing it’s literally from w* / destiel haters who think dean doesn’t give af abt Cas and would actually do that. like yea I don’t expect ppl to vet blogs but like, I saw it and immediately got a Vibe from it and was right

[girlwithonegoal]

sorry but the only reason destiel even works is because wincest did it first and also better

i've been thinking a LOT about this and want to get it all out so here it is. if dean was truly in love with cas, he would not have hesitated to tell him so when he literally knew cas was about to DIE. we don't see that. we see shock, grief, disbelief (an angel loves me!), we see him trying desperately to process his best friend is leaving him but nowhere does dean say, or imply, with his eyes, or words, that he's in love with cas. of course he loves cas - cas is family - and cas is not exactly his brother, (closest is brother-in-arms), despite his insistence in an earlier episode - but he's not in the kind of soul-crushing love that cas is with him. he's not in love with cas, and can't be, because he's already in love with sam.

when dean dies, he gets as close as he possibly can to confessing to sam he's in love with him without actually crossing the line. he would never to that to sam - he would never do to sam what cas did to him - because he would NEVER do anything to make sam lose his agency (sidebar: not that cas doesn't respect dean. but his love confession is almost wish fulfillment - i'm going to confess to dean i love him and go out in a blaze of glory and then leave without dean ever even having to reciprocate because i know he doesn't love me back. and he's absolutely right).

dean has already had years and years of not having his own agency from john his whole fucking life! john did whatever he wanted to dean and dean took it because like hell was he going to subject sam to that bullshit. which brings us to sam and dean's childhood - not much is known of their early years before sam went to stanford and that's fully on purpose. we can almost see dean as not only a brother figure to sam but also a father figure. john leaving for weeks maybe even months at a time - how the hell did dean and sam manage to survive? by dean doing whatever he had to do. emphasis on whatever.

you see, john absolutely knows that dean is beautiful. whether you read their relationship as purely abusive or abusive with a sexual component - dean definitely did questionable things to get food on the table for sam, an aspect that's more in fanon that canon but reads true to the heart of the show. sam doesn't know because dean wanted a normal childhood for him. and dean would rather die and go to hell for 800 years than force sam to make a choice, make any choice, of a romantic and/or sexual nature related to him.

back to dean's death. this is again the closest thing to a love confession that dean can make - my baby brother - take out the word brother and it would be not only romantic but stunningly true - he raised sam, this child who grew up to be a man, this child who loves him - waiting outside sam's dorm for hours - can you picture him pacing in the snow, waiting for the one thing he wants but can't have??? why does that sound familiar? oh, right, because that's what cas said but in dean and sam's case it would be actually true. how cruel and unbelievably insane it is to find your soulmate in your brother, the one person you have that you love unconditionally, not just because they are your family but because you are in love with them, and you can never have them as long as you live.

re: american gothic and soulmatism. very different from crimson peak where thomas fully realizes the unhealthiness of the codependent incestuous relationship with his sister and wants to be free and happy with edith. but sam and dean don't want to be free. in their minds, they already are free as long as they have each other and only each other. not getting in all the other romantic relationships that the brothers have with other people bc it would take too long, but they already fulfill that need for each other and don't need anyone else...like i'm sorry i love my sister but i want to get married one day to someone else. if you read their relationship as purely platonic, it doesn't work at ALL.

the kripke early seasons fully leaned into the gothic horror aspect of it all and incest is definitely a part of that...dean and sam literally cannot live without each other. they can't do it! sam dies in dean's arms and dean can't even wait five fucking minutes without making a deal with a demon lmao. he can't eat. he can't sleep. their love is a perpetual resurrection; they keep killing each other and bringing each other back to life. because they don't know how to stop. they are a singular mangled fucked up entity. i read a fic once where the author described sam as hating his own body because it was separate from dean's and dean's whole presence was a phantom pain. and yeah. just yeah. they can't live without each other because they ARE each other.

seasons 1-3 to me are spn at its soul. that's it. cas only works as a side character, if he's a brother (like, purely platonically) to both sam and dean or just unrequited romantic love for dean. the trope of an angel falling in love with a faithless man who can't pray only works if dean hasn't been in love with sam the whole time.

[dotthings]

The venn diagram overlap of people who hate spn to the point where they think S1-3 are "the only good seasons" and people who hate Cas is an almost perfect circle. Therefore, hating Cas and being an spn "fan" are incompatible. I said what I said. If anyone thinks my statement is the problem, I invite them to self-examine. Obsessed antis mourning for an illusion of what they think spn was in S1-3 and can't keep their hatred of spn or their hatred for Castiel out of their mouths are not "fans." Fans, with all their myriad opinions, are not the problem. Antis are.

Hating on another cast member just for praising Castiel is also proof of anti.

SPN is good, actually. And Cas is among its greatest characters ever.

I said what I said!!!!

People tag their anti-spn, anti-Cas nonsense onto the show tag on tumblr, they clearly want some attention and want to drama bait. Here's the attention you ordered, you troll. You aren't an spn fan. Go away, find another show to obsess about. Why are you still here filling a blog with your hatred.

Pls leave. The adults are trying to have real conversations and you're just out there trolling.

Happy Cas birthday to all!! One of the best things to ever happen to spn. I never stopped loving Cas. Cas antis DNI.

Signed, someone watching spn since the pilot aired, get off my lawn

[sleepyspiriit]

jimmy.

i feel bad for jimmy. i feel HORRIBLE for jimmy.

He had a daughter, a wife, a life. He had a FUTURE. Cas took it all from him, his daughters life was destroyed

[ebenelephant]

saw a take the other day that who the guys end up with at the end of scoobynatural is indicative of their character, and that sam and velma kiss bc sam's straight.

you absolute fools. ignoring the other issues w that statement, if anything sam and velma kissing just goes to prove that he's a lesbian

[quietwingsinthesky]

jack one day into this fiasco: oh! i can be their baby for a little bit! it might be nice to be taken care of!

jack one month into it: If I’m Not Treated Like The Adult I Am In Five Minutes, I’m Going To Kill Everyone In This Room

[wigglebox]

i stg if this prequel confirms that dean is in fact not in heave and is in the empty or some other kind of limbo space i’m going to scream bc it’s probably the only time in my entire life that manifesting something for years will pay off for me and the others who speculated since the finale aired that he was not in heaven at all and the story wasn’t over. 

[barisiscourtroom]

wow. way to disrespect my wishes, anon.

normally i would have answered an ask like that, it was anti Rollins but not violently hateful, but since you clearly sent it as a response to me asking people NOT to send me Rollins hate, i will not.

and going forward, i will not answer to anything anti Rollins.

i still don't ship Rollisi, i still think she's not perfect and that she has fucked up, but i also know that that's the point, no one is perfect, as these shows constantly shove down our throats.

so while i previously could entertain some wanky salt sessions where i went a bit anti Rollins, going forward it'll only make me think of hateful assholes like you. the kind that makes fandom a less fun place to be. the kind that never respects other people's wishes because you have an opinion and it's more important than anything else that you get to say it, regardless of the consequences. to take another fandom as an example: the kind of people that has made me hate Destiel to the point where i get annoyed 98% of the time i see anything Destiel, because some of the hellers are so fucking disgusting (and loud) in their hate towards anything they deem icky (ie: anything that isn't their ship. ie: Wincest and Sam, two of my favorite things).

and i'm not doing that. this blog probably wouldn't have been a great place for Rollisi shippers and Rollins fans, not the worst but not great, but after you, anon? they'll be fine here. because i refuse to indulge in your disgusting hate campaign.

[crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell]

Screaming with excitement right now

Crowley in season 8x07 was willing to knife fight Castiel. That was when he assumed Cas’ was too weak to use the full smite of his angel powers

I love it, because Crowley does not underestimate Cas in anyway. Crowley has always had a healthy appreciation for Cas’ abilities, so Crowley is more than aware of how BAMF Cas is at knife to knife fighting. Yet Crowley believed he had a chance, which shows that Crowley is pretty BAMF himself

I won’t lie, I think Cas would win in a “fight until one is knocked out” type situation. Cas is millions of years old and a soldier, it is highly unlikely Crowley would be better than him, and I just “yeah sure lol” whenever Dean is made to be more skilled than Cas? like what are the directors smoking? Dean is skilled but he doesn’t have millions of years of experience. Or if Cas only began fighting when humans were created, then thousands of years

But do I think Crowley could have put up a good enough fight, with his cunning, to stun Cas for just long enough to teleport away with Kevin and the tablet?

The answer is yes. It takes 7 milliseconds to snap your fingers. He needs to use cunning long enough to have that 7 milliseconds. Don’t get me wrong Cas would absolutely kick Crowley’s arse in any fight, even a non power fight where it’s just melee vs melee but I do think Crowley has enough skill to buy himself 7 milliseconds and that is an incredible feat, because Cas has way more experience even if he didn’t have powers, which he did

So why didn’t Crowley teleport with Kevin and the tablet while Cas was doing his light show? We know from 7x23 that Crowley doesn’t need to touch an item or people to teleport them

The answer I believe is this:

originally Crowley thought Cas didn’t have enough powers. The light show made him think okay maybe I was wrong. Originally he thought he just needed to stun Cas long enough to get him, the tablet and Kevin out and Cas wouldn’t be able to follow because he wasn’t in good shape

Cas was able to bluff well enough to make Crowley believe he was fine and if we remember from 5x10 Cas can follow Crowley’s teleportation energy like how he followed Crowley to his house, even though Crowley teleported before him 

So if you already know the angel can follow your teleportation signature, and you guess that they still have some power left in them to follow you, what would be the point? Fold your cards and try again. You can risk teleporting away, but if the angel follows you they might not give you an advantage of warning you with a light show next time

[nikkiruncks]

I’m gonna be honest. I don’t like any of Riley’s CANON het ships.

[kal-derash]

Season 4 was probably my least favorite season (with season 6 being right behind it cause goddamn that season had too much going on. Also, I feel like Eve could've stuck around longer) because of how easily Dean listened to every damn thing Castiel had to say against Sam. Don't get me wrong, the demon blood was terrible, but they really wanted me to feel bad about Sam exorcising demons without killing the host? Less bodies dropping. Using his powers? Missouri is a psychic, and Dean was fine with her. Killing Lilith? She had to die at some point. Like if Sam had killed Lilith mid-season 4, no apocalypse, how would Dean react?

Season 4 Dean would lose his mind from finding out he became a demon, had a bro-cation with the King of Hell, and regular hung out with the Queen of Hell.

"Cas said he'll stop you." "Even God doesn't want you to do this." & later on, you find out God was gone, and it was the angels trying to jumpstart the apocalypse and that everything Cas said was bullshit and meant to drive Sam and Dean apart.

Truth be told, season 4 Dean constantly pissed me off. Like you're allowed to be upset that Sam's keeping secrets, but you don't get to judge Sam for keeping secrets and then constantly talk about how hunting is black and white and be surprised he doesn't wanna say "Hey, I know you're eager to go around killing 'monsters', but I just wanna tell you I have powers and use them to help people 😃"

Castiel definitely deserved to have his ass beat for season 4. 6. & 7. & the fact Sam forgave Cas for all that shit is wild to me.

Season 4!Dean behavior to Sam 🤝🏾 Season 13!Dean behavior to Jack