#anti VoxVal

[moistrodent]

haha so funny ignore how this literal abuse.

[autumnteawithfriends]

TW: Mention of R@pe

Dear people who ship Valentino with Angel, disrespectfully stay the fuck away from me. I don’t want to hear your bullshit excuses to why you ship a RAPE VICTIM WITH HIS LITERAL RAPIST. Same with VoxVal, I don’t want to hear why you ship someone who’s simply a haughty jackass (Vox) with a rapist pimp who is abusive towards him.

[pastel-kaleesh]

WHAT THE HELL DID I FIND BLAZED???

VOXVAL? BROTHER EWWWW

EWWWWWWW

GORE ISN'T EVEN THE PROBLEM. IT'S THE SHIP

[sparklingsora]

so thanks to this polyvees server i joined recently i found out that apparently theres a polyvees week happening over on twitter. this is for day 1: duo. and it's veeswap au because i'm me

[hazshit-hotel-hater]

What ships do you do not like?

Im saving Huskerdust for last. I have way too much shit to say.

Aside from weird illegal ones and also disgusting ones, I am a very big Sir Pentious x Cherri Bomb disliker. It couldve been good but theres like no chemistry and Cherri doesn’t seem to actually like Pentious for any reasons other than he kissed her and then exploded and also weird double penis joke. Said it before, I’ll say it again, Cherri does not need a boyfriend she needs character development. If you’re interested in more of my hatred I have this rant abt it here

Valentino x Vox is another that I hate. I feel like I don’t need to explain why but I will anyway. I know they’re technically not canon anymore, but idk how I’m supposed to enjoy a ship between two characters when one is Valentino and also knowing that it was previously canon that Valentino has shattered Vox’s screen multiple times. Honestly you can’t even be like “well the voxtagram posts arent canon anymore so he’s not abusing vox” because you’re like objectively wrong. In the first couple shots we see of Vox and Valentino together Vox has an entire glass thrown at his head. Very important detail, he nonchalantly dodges it implying that while we know this is a common occurrence for Valentino to have violent breakdowns, it is also a common occurrence for Valentino to throw things at him or try to injure him in some way. Not to mention he seems very unsurprised when Valentino takes his phone and breaks that as well. Vox is also forced to walk on eggshells around this guy with how he talks to him. There’s literally no way for it to be healthy at all.

While I love the concept of Charlie and Vaggies relationship, it’s entirely brought down by Vivzies inability to write women and her lack of care for wlw relationships. There’s a lot of good rants about this, but I have so little substance to mention on these two it’s kind of hard to talk on. Vaggie doesn’t have much character development and Charlie is just incompetent all the time in the canon show and the only interesting stuff we got was from episode 7 (very good episode btw)

Any Alastor ship ever. End.

I do not like Huskerdust a lot of the time. I don’t enjoy how the fandom does it a lot of the time because they don’t really consider the others boundaries and just are like “well they like each other now so they should kiss!” And I disagree with that very hard. For how it is in the show, the best i've seen is the little bit in episode 8 which I really do enjoy but obviously there was no build up to it really so I hardly have much to grasp and I have to do everything myself. Relationships take a long time. That goes hand in hand with my rewrite also. Angel has harassed Husk and other people multiple times and that’s not okay obviously but for some reason no one acknowledges that?? The first step of them ever getting together or even being friends for that matter is Angel apologising. I will be mentioning my fuckass rewrite again just as an example of what I’d do, so I apologise! Everything from this chunk till the end is about how my friend and I have tried to fix this dumb relationship. It’d take him a little to mention it, but for how I’ve done it with my friend he ends up going out to dinner with Husk after rewritten episode 4 events and after getting texts from Valentino he starts reflecting on how bad Valentino and other people objectifying makes him feel and has that “..shit im doing that to other people.” And they have a little talk about it where Angel apologises for acting that way and tells Husk to call him out if he started doing it again on accident.

And it's not a quick fix conversation either, they aren’t magically best friends now and they don’t suddenly start being lovey with each other, Angel doesn’t even list Husk as a friend yet in his mind and has a bit where he only lists two people as his friends. There’s also bits of rewriting where Angel is yelling at Husk and ends up getting upset to the point he indirectly hurts Husk by throwing a wine bottle at him and Husk steps on the glass while he’s walking out. They talk it out again and Angel has another small crisis about potentially starting a cycle of abuse because his own trauma is shaping how violently he reacts to minor situations. Both of them need to work on themselves before they do anything. Especially Angel when he’s developed a habit of snapping and has a mindset that he needs to physically fight any potential threat away from him and it's leading him to actually hurt people. While that isn’t the sole reason he's in hell he's still in hell he is an objectively bad person and Husk has his own problems too especially when dealing with Angel specifically, both of them have an issue of pushing blame off themselves or shaming the other in overly stressful situations even if they don’t mean to. Husk has a tendency to shame Angel for his coping mechanisms and even if he's well intentioned with his criticism he gives it in a very uncaring and harsh way and will sometimes default to saying “I didn’t actually care in the first place” even if he does. They currently are not ready to be in a relationship together by any means, but fights help them reflect on themselves and of course at least Angel is at the hotel to be a better person. Charlie talks to him often and shows him it’s okay to confide in other people but that he doesn’t need to tell someone everything and that he can keep things to himself, and then the help from Charlie leads to Angel apologising again and trying to do the same for Husk like listening to him talk about his own issues and then giving input on them or just casual banter and so on. Both of them desperately need to work on themselves and they’re trying to do it together and I think when they're ready they’ll probably the best matches for each other, but you can’t just skip over the issues, the issues are the entire point of growing, that's why they are at the hotel.

[my-dark-lord]

Just wanted to share my VoxVal playlist with y'all! It's got 467 songs on it right now, but it grows just about every day. Ultimately, every song is about Them. This is nothing compared to my almost 1k song Valentino playlist, though.

[bbgliker-teehee]

Guyyysss🥺🥺🥺

They ruined VoxVal.....They where the ONLY reason why I still wanted to watch this mistake Vivienne call's a show....(And maybe gor Niffty and Tom trench)

My bestie sent me some screenshots and like-

Spoilers btw??? (Even tho you probably don't give a shit)

Valentino ❤️

Valentino (mi loser patético favorito) is an annoying bimbo and not in a slay way, y'know?, like he's all moody and whiney about losing Angel even tho Val is a PIMP and not only that he's an overlord pimp as probably has 1000 more hookers who aren't getting paid from him and like, I get it ok doesn't matter if a pimp has 10 whores or 30 they always have a favorite that makes more money blah blah...

But even then from what I got from Val is that he doesn't really care about about who makes more money he only cares about control and getting what he wants, so if AD leaves he'd be pissed but then move on and probably kill AD just for fun

But in the show he acts like an ex boyfriend who's trying to get AD back....

Vox🖥️

He was ok ig?, you can really tell he's sick of Val....and his duet with Al was pretty decent if you can call it that...

I honestly don't have anything to say about him cuz his character was just a cut and paste rival, hell even back then that's what I thought of him.....

[gabrielsbubblegumbitch]

got any silly voxval headcannons? (Maybe velvette too idk)

like for example who cooks out of the three of them

Of course you can <3 I'm a really angsty girlie so I don't know how silly they actually are but there you go:

None of them can cook, but that's not really a problem for Vox and Velvette. Vox could survive on plain bread and black coffee for eternity, while Velvette could eat only candies. Val, on the other hand, is the ultimate hedonist. He's all about the tasty, full-fat fast food or gourmet stuff, and he's always pushing for takeout. Come on, guys, we're fucking rich, let's order something. Sure, they could hire someone to cook for them, but Vox is too paranoid to let an outsider near their food. He's still on the hunt for a chef who can match Val's extravagant tastes and is willing to sign off soul. If they had to pick someone to cook, Vox would probably be the best bet since he's the only one who can actually follow a recipe.

Velvette is the smartest when it comes to managing finances. Vox technically doesn't like to waste money but he has a taste for luxurious stuff, he can't resist an expensive car, fucking show-off. Valentino basically burns money on every useless shit he likes, I bet those crystals he badazzled his gun with were real diamons.

Velvette helps Val maintain his fluff, and he styles her hair. It's a cute little trade-off they've got going on.

Valentino has a habit of breaking electronic devices and downloading malware. Vox hates him for it.

Vox can easily go 72h without sleep, fueled by coke and rage. Valentino occasionally drugs his coffee to put him down to sleep, because after 68th hour all electronics in the tower starts malfunctioning.

Val used to be a full-time performer, but now he's more like a RuPaul—lending his face to the brand and only occasionally gracing the stage. But every time he does perform, Vox makes sure to be there front and center.

Their schedules are very incompatible and they have to spend a lot of time managing their businesses but they have weekly appointments to do catch up and discuss strategy. Those are usually very unserious, they end up hitting the bong and playing Mario Cart.

There was this one time Vox tried hitting on Velvette because she's totally his type. It was awkward as hell, and they both agreed to never speak of it again. Valentino has no idea about it.

Valentino would really want to have a dog but Vox really likes dogs so he doesn't allow him to get one by imposing strict anti-pet policy in the tower.

Val knows all of Vox's and Velvette's kinks and sometimes produces custom porn for them as gifts.

As much as they love spending time together, Val and Velvette can't stand watching TV with Vox because he gets overly emotional and doesn't allow to skip commercials because he enjoys them

Vox occasionally invites Val to be a guest judge on reality shows, which always skyrockets ratings but sometimes ends nasty for the contestants.

Val's obsessed with textures, especially nice fabrics. Give him a nice fluffy blanket and he will shut up for 15 minutes fixated on touching it.

Vox, with his business and strategic management degree, sometimes tries to pitch these ideas to Velvette and Valentino, he's like Guys, have you considered using the BCG matrix? Ever heard of SWOT analysis? We should discuss KPIs. They mock him relentlessly for it.

Val once tried putting drag makeup on Vox's face, and let's just say the result was... less than glamorous.

During their honeymoon phase, Vox and Val fucked everywhere. At first, Velvette found it amusing, but eventually, she grew to hate it. She finally snapped when she found out they'd fucked on the dinner table and she set it on fire.

Val "secretly" ghostwrote some trashy smut novels (they are absolutely horrible, worst Wattpad shit you could dig out). Vox secretly bought and read every single one, finding plenty of references to himself along the way.

Vox loves it when Val wears stripper platforms, even though it makes their height difference even more ridiculous.

Valentino's wardrobe takes two entire rooms and still expands. Vox doesn't know how to stop it.

Vox owns a few lingerie sets, only because Val loses his fucking mind whenever he wears them. Velvette designed them herself and keeps photos of Vox wearing them as blackmail material, just in case.

[fizzyrodeo]

I just wanted to add about the proship/anti post since some commenters were claiming Vivziepop doesn’t even ‘know what that means’. She is close friends with a proshipper and encouraged them to ship Valentino and Angel. Idc what people ship but this person was put in charge of the Poision MV boarding, someone who fetishises the SA of gay men. When someone brought this up to Vivz about how wrong it felt that the SA representation was partially made by someone who romanticises it, viv defended them and didn’t care. Vivz is a proshipper or is a defender of them, which is obvious from the way she writes relationships anyways, and her attitude against criticism. A proshipper in charge of a show that a lot of minors watch, where they’re even defending toxic relationships like Stolitz despite the SA implications, is pretty messed up. Let’s not remain ignorant and defend her :b Sos for the long ask I feel more people should know this 😋

Never apologize for a long, informative ask! You outlined some pretty important things. I would like to add that aside from Spidermoth and Stolitz (yes, it's still problematic ESPECIALLY with the current direction the pairing is taking) there are many other problematic ships/pairings such as VoxVal, JesterKing (Mammon and Fizzarolli, though not shipped they were indeed a pairing), Stoella and Blitsika. It would be odd to try and claim that Vivienne doesn't know what pro/anti-shipping is considering her work is full of problematic ships and that the narrative even outlines how problematic these ships are (now... whether people want to acknowledge certain ships as problematic is a different matter).

[moistrodent]

Fun Fact about Vox actually, since me and my friend also hate VoxVal (because fuck Valentino, Vox deserves better despite being a jackass), so we paired him with a OC I made

To keep it short, her name is Susan (we also joke she’s the better Susan.) She’s a woman who died in 1945 during WWII from starvation and she’s a marionette in Hell. She’s a sweet, but tough as nails lady who also doesn’t understand modern technology.

I’m debating on whether to make her relationship with Vox start in Hell or when alive. But they are dating, Vox teases her about not being too up to date with modern technology like computers or what not, but he does care for her. He calls her Vicky so because of the Vee’s naming scheme and Susan calls him Vinny (I HC that was his name when alive)

Any thoughts?

OH MY GOD THATS ADORABLE. I love that idea sm

[tired-fandom-ndn]

Does Valentino's fluctuating accent bother you as much as it does me? Every time it flip flops I'm immediately yanked out of immersion 🫠 besides tht tho, I love the Vs way more than I thought I would!! My dash is sadly quiet about Hazbin despite it's airing. Though... Maybe that's for the better given the shit I USED to see on my dash about it. Regardless I'm so glad to see you enjoying it so far!

I'll be legit with you, I am TERRIBLE with accents and I do not recoginze them or notice issues with them unless they're REALLY big. It's the joy of having a speech impediment, my frame of reference for how language is meant to sound is permanently fucked lmao

I didn't even know it was airing yet! Exactly TWO people on my dashboard have posted about it, and one only about voxval so I scrolled by thinking it was still fanon stuff. I am so so happy with it so far and genuinely excited to see more, especially Valentino and Alastor 💕, though I was also THRILLED with the changes made to Velvette's look and personality and the songs have been incredible.

I want to follow more Hazbin bloggers but my experience with the fandom has been. Bad. Very bad. If anyone has recs for people who aren't assholes (racists, ableists, swerfs, antis, etc), feel free to share, especially if they also love Valentino 🥺

[gabrielsbubblegumbitch]

I just witnessed a 34 tweets long thread explaining why Vox is not in love with Valentino, VoxVal antis are fucking unhinged 😭