#anti Ladrien

[kathrahender]

If I had to choose a ship of the Love Square, the only acceptable ship for me is Marichat (mostly because both, Marinette and Adrien, are their true self). Don't try to change my mind, you won't be able to do it.

[western-magical-girl-confessions]

“I genuinely don't understand why people find the Love Square interesting. It's perfectly serviceable but given we've seen multiple renditions of what it'd be like when they get together in the show, it's hard to be intrigued or invested in it. There's no mystery or wonder to it, and whenever we get it the show just retcons it away anyway. Fanfic pairings are more interesting because we haven't seen them already and we get pairings that aren't retconned/over in an episode.”

[timidgarden7]

How to easily trigger miraculous fans...

Kagome and Inuyasha are better protagonists than Marinette and Adrien will ever be and they are also teens as well (Inu is a teen, he is stated to be 15 like Kagome not 200+). Plus Inukag is ten times better than entirety of Love Square and It isn't love build on obsession and image of perfection. They at least have a decent chemistry unlike stupid love square.

(edit because I was too aggressive and not kind)

Sorry but you need to respect my opinion. I will never like a ship which is build on obsession and not on chemistry.

[mfshipbracket]

[lazywriter8]

The Love Square as lyrics from Midnights songs: Anti-Hero

Adrienette: I wake up screaming from dreaming, one day I’ll watch as you’re leaving ‘cause you got tired of my scheming

Marichat: It’s me, hi, I’m the problem, it’s me, at tea time everybody agrees

Ladynoir: I should not be left to my own devices, they come with prices and vices, I end up in crisis, tale as old as time

Ladrien: I’ll stare directly at the sun, but never in the mirror, it must be exhausting always rooting for the anti-hero

*i tried to be as accurate as possible*

[purrincess-chat]

There's a new wave of rooting for Adrienette breakup. I'm blocking ppl constantly. Will we ever see the end of this hostility? Some of the break-up truthers claim they just want more angst because canon Adrienette is boring, and 'that's just how the teens are'. I might be taking it to heart too much, but it's disgusting 😭 Adrienette April has just ended, and I enjoyed it so much, why do this fandom always have to spoil my mood? Sorry for coming to your inbox with my nonsense, but I don’t feel comfortable enough sharing it on my own blog.

Fandom still on its bullshit, I see. We spent how many seasons begging for something to happen with them and for them to get together, and now suddenly it's boring and they need to break up? 🤡🤡 You know what I find boring and exhausting? Constantly being strung along by couples in shows that can't figure out what the fuck they want? I actively stop rooting for couples that are on again off again bc it's toxic. "Oh but other shows-" are also toxic. My favorite fictional couples are couples that get together and stay together. They work through problems together and fight to be together. Love isn't inherently more "realistic" if the couple breaks up all the time. Why the hell would I want to root for people who leave the moment shit gets difficult? Why would I want to root for people who can't work through things together and problem solve? What incentive would I have to be happy they're together, knowing they're going to break up in 5 minutes? The reason I appreciated their development in s5 so much is because we saw them fight for each other and stick together against all odds. That's the crux of the show. "The power of love is always so strong" it's been the theme song the whole fucking time.

But honestly, I can't be too surprised. This fandom has hated Ladrien (aka the requited side) since they first looked at each other on screen. Why should canon Adrinette be any different? Some MC stans even turned on MC after Elation and claimed it was boring because it was requited. This fandom doesn't want the LS to be together, or to even like each other. They want to watch them continuously suffer and pine for each other. Adrinette being canon is full proof of that. Elation is full proof of that. Not to mention the casual misogyny associated with Marinette antis wanting her to be punished for everything, but that's a topic for another time.

Just keep blocking people and take comfort knowing you're beautiful and have correct opinions. 🥰 It's how I get by.

[casualfireenemy]

I've been into Miraculous Ladybug for a while now and I just have to say, I liked Marinette before she began to "like" Adrien.

They ruined a perfectly normal chaos child.

Now she's a creepy obsessed stalker. Marinette Dupain-Cheng has become worse than Sakura Haruno and I hate that bitch.

She stalks Adrien to a point she has his entire schedule written down on a white board in her room. They rarely talk at all because she gets dumbafied by him whenever he's around. She has multiple birthday presents she's made for him for the next 50 years of their lives. She's stolen his phone after she accidentally sent an embarrassing message to him from his locker from his fencing class. She went through Kagami's entire phone just to make sure she wasn't into Adrien, Chloe's phone was broken because she caught the entire class trying to help Marinette sneak into Adrien's place to confess while Adrien's family was busy. She even "teamed" up with Chloe to try to sabotage Kagami's outfit with gum. She felt guilty and didn't go through with it but she still got her way.

She has multiple pictures of him, some it looks like she took herself on her wall. His magazines under her bed and videos of him on her computer that she rewatches over 20 times. Remember that time she got a firefighter to help her get onto Adriens porperty or that time she hid behind a bush to spy on him while he talked to Lila at the park. Maybe that time she was Ladybug and talked shit to Lila in front of Adrien so he wouldn't get "closer" to her.

She doesn't even respect Chat Noir who also happens to be Adrien and when she fines out they're the same person she chooses to risk the entire world just to be with him. Before that she uses Ladybug to sneak into his room to give him a gift she couldn't give him as Marinette. Then proceeds to sniff and roll around in his bed and go through his things. (Chat Blanc EP).

Chat Noir is given so much shit. He even changes his entire self just to please Ladybug and she blushes around the "new" Chat Noir because he's acting more like the Adrien part of himself instead of the person he wants to be. Chat Noir does have problems, a lot of issues that need to be addressed. However he gets treated worse than Ladybug when getting called out as if he's as bad as her.

How many times has she told Chat Noir she doesn't trust him, how many times has she insulted him. No respect for the partner who risks his life for her. He respects her, trusts her to the point he nearly died, he's in love with her. Yes, his flirting can get in the way of work and she has every right to reject him. I'm not mad about that.

The point is Marinette isn't a good person, she's not. No matter how hard the shows shoves it down our throats. They make her out to be this incredible girl and that her only flaw being her clumsiness and the "few" times she acted out in anger about Chloe and Lila. Alya enables her bad behavior and so does most of their classmates.

Luka is the best person on this show. He deserves better.

[hyacinthus-orientalis-linnaeus]

Honestly, the Love Square had potential at first, but they dragged it out so much and made it so unhealthy and honestly toxic. Chat Noir needs to get over Ladybug, Marinette needs to get over Adrien, and they both need to move on.

Seriously, at this point I can’t even lowkey ship any corner of the Love Square.

Give me Lukanette and Adrigami, or Lukadrien and Marigami, or even introduce other love interests, or polyship. But prolonging the Love Square drama is promoting toxic relationship ideals.

[coralcatsea]

A lot of people have become disillusioned with the main Miraculous ship and instead think that Kagami would be better for Adrien, but I'm not so sure. Kagami isn't really that great for him either. In one episode, she yells at him when he does a funny pose and says that's not him – why would he do that at all, then? It's not going to impress anyone the way his perfect persona would, so what other reason does he have to do it than simply wanting to?

In Risk, she starts yelling at him really harshly over the phone for not standing up to his father. I don't know if she was under the risk influence or not, but I don't think that would excuse it either way. I get her concern, but she just came at him out of nowhere simply because he looked a little sad. If your friend is sad, why would you start screaming at them for it?? She didn't even have a reasonable conversation with him about it first in the episode.

It's a shame because I think she has potential to be one of the better characters, and I like her assertiveness, but her anger that seems to come out of nowhere ruins it. She's weirdly written (though so is everyone else in the show).

I also just don't think Adrien really even has feelings for her. To me the relationship just came off like she was being really pushy and convinced him that he should date her when he wasn't sure. Obviously he's at fault for that too and shouldn't have given in, as it only led to him not paying attention to her in the relationship.

Anyway Adrien x therapy is the best Adrien ship right now.

As for Marinette...she should probably take some therapy, too. Luka's fine, but he deserves better than to be Marinette's backup plan.

Luka and Kagami would probably work decently together. Luka isn't as a timid as Adrien and would probably mellow Kagami out some, and he'd be more likely to do what he feels is right instead of letting other people push him around.

[ceruleanwhore]

I find it funny how some people say that Marinette deserves better than Adrien because of how shitty his character’s become and then some people say the opposite, that Adrien deserves better than Marinette because of how shitty her character is, but practically nobody is acknowledging that both characters have been thoroughly ruined by the shitty writing to the point that neither are viable potential romantic partners for anyone. Adrien was fine but then got written as a fucking incel while Marinette is a crazed stalker and neither of them have any respect for each other’s boundaries or even just for themselves, which means that they very much cannot be shipped with anyone else because no one in their right mind would look at an incel and a stalker and think either of them could ever be shipped with anyone else, in good conscience. Until Adrien realizes how shitty he’s been, apologizes, and fully makes up for his actions, he doesn’t “deserve better” than anyone and, likewise, until Marinette realizes how harmful her behavior is and gets better (or if she gets arrested- whichever comes first) she doesn’t “deserve better” than Adrien or anyone else. I think you can definitely ship them with people and write fanfiction about those ships because you would be either keeping with Adrien’s characterization from season one or setting it after a redemption like that for either character, but saying that Marinette deserves better than Adrien or that he deserves better than her is just blatantly false.

[brickercupmasterx3]

Love square from Miraculous Ladybug

Don't Ship It!

1. Why don't you ship it? -Because the ship is so darn forced and horribly developed. Like am I supposed to ship such a toxic, unhealthy, one-sided love square? Marinette/Ladybug is so obsessed with Adrien, whereas Adrien/Chat Noir is the same way with Ladybug. I just can't stand it. It's my biggest NOTP in this fandom!

Adrien's "She's just a friend" is also so infuriating. Can the guy say anything else? Could he also leave Ladybug alone? His pushiness at getting Ladybug to return his feelings as Chat Noir is also just probably the most irritating thing ever.

And Marinette? She isn't any better! She still chases after the guy, after he's friendzoned her a bunch of times, and in turn ignores Luka and just about any feelings she may have for him when he's around? Like she takes obsession to a whole new level.

2. What would have made you like it? -Better relationship development? If the two stopped putting their preferred side of one another on a pedestal? Stop the obsession completely?

I doubt the writers are gonna do any better.

3. Despite not shipping it, do you have anything nice to say about it? -Guess the AUs people create for them are alright? (MariChat is probably the less annoying ship of the Love Square, but I still don't like it.)

Other than that, keep this ship out of my face!

[western-magical-girl-confessions]

“Oatmeal is more exciting than the love square.”

[holly-natnicole]

Today a thought occured to me: Why do I like Catra, yet despise Adrien Agreste/Cat Noir?

Both of them are very bad people. Both of them have repeatedly mistreated the Protagonist hero (how they did so differs, but nevertheless both of them are awful). So I wondered why I don't either like 'em both or despise 'em both.

After thinking 'bout it for a few more minutes, I realised what the key difference is. I used to be a fan of Adrien; approximately a year ago, that suddenly changed. He just wasn't funny anymore. I re-watched several of his scenes from different Episodes, yet all the antics that used to make me at least smile kept boring me during the re-watch. 5 months later I saw 'Oblivio'. That Episode made me go from going bored by Adrien to being freakin' TERRIFIED of him.

Usually, this wouldn't be a problem. At least 40% of my Favourite characters are my Favourites specifically coz they terrify me. I love their villainy an' I love the heroes eventually defeating them.

But the thing that makes Adrien different from them is that his awfulness is portrayed as a positive thing by the narrative. The moment were I became genuinely scared of him was this —

'Adrien: "We do make a good couple, don't you think? Otherwise we wouldn't have won again like we always do."

Ladybug: facepalms.

Ladybug: "We're a team, not a couple. Don't start that again! I already told you I'm in love with another boy. Besides, this charming kitty act of yours was the reason we became distracted and got into all this trouble in the first place." '

Adrien: starts laughing with his arms crossed.

'Ladybug, not seeing what's behind her: "That's right, laugh all you want. Hey, what are you doing?" '

Adrien: places a hand underneath Ladybug's chin & turns her head so that she sees Alya holding up a smartphone which shows a photo of them kissing.

Ladybug: yelps upon seeing the photo.

Alya: smiles with her eyes closed whilst pointing with 1 finger at the photo.

Ladybug: squeaks.

The photo clearly shows Cat Noir-x-Ladybug kissing.

'Ladybug: gasping, reels back with her fists held up at her chest.

Ladybug, in a clearly horrified tone of voice: "Everyone saw that?!"

Ladybug: hangs her head whilst holding it with her hands. "WHAT A DISASTER!! What on Earth happened??!!"

Adrien with his hands on his hips: "Well one thing's for sure, we would make a good-looking couple.

Adrien: smiles at Ladybug. "We're meant for each other, my Lady; you're the only one who doesn't see it."

Ladybug: scowls.'

This moment caused me to start feeling afraid of Adrien, but I couldn't pinpoint why I felt that way; I only knew that something 'bout him in that scene made me feel severely uneasy, even outright scared. So I re-watched the scene 4 times. On the 4th re-watch, I finally realised what the problem was. Adrien had been told by Ladybug multiple times before that she DIDN'T have romantic interest in him, she even said so again in this moment; yet he kept insisting that they're going to become a couple regardless of whether she wants to date him or not.

Worst of all, Adrien is portrayed by the narrative as being correct to treat her this way!! The T.V. series treated this moment as positive, as something I was supposed to feel happy 'bout. That realisation made me feel disgust at the writers. How could they think forcing someone into a romantic relationship against the person's will is a good thing?!

After my realisation, I re-watched all the Episodes that were available in August 2019; during it I noticed that the scene in 'Oblivio' wasn't coincidental. Adrien had been sexually harassing Ladybug repeatedly all the way back in Season 1. I just hadn't noticed at the time coz I only watched a single Episode per month. Re-watching them all with only a day or 2 between each Episode made it easier to realise there was a clear pattern.

The key difference between Catra an' Adrien is that her story specifically frames her as a villain & she is more than once called out in-story over how shittily she treats others, whereas his story frames him as a hero & praises him for treating Ladybug shittily an' the writers have even gone on record calling him "perfect".

Adrien Agreste/Cat Noir is a boring character an' a horrible person with extremely terrible writers; Catra is an entertaining, scary & fascinating character with okay writers.

[cobraonthecob]

Someone: I never see any LS content anymore! :( I’m all alone UwU

Me, someone who just scrolled through ten tagged posts of any version of the LS on my dash and barely content for my ships: you’re joking, right?????

[crispie-art]

Yo another MLB post cause I suck

Can I just say Ladrien goddamn sucks. Ladybug is so annoyingly possessive of Adrien that it pisses me off. In Riposte she’s legit like:

Chat Noir gets jealous too, but at least it isn’t to the point of Ladrien. Like Ladybug doesn’t even know if Kagami and Adrien were romantically interested. And Kagami is akumatised! Of course she’s not thinking straight and filled with negative emotions.

Like Ladybug is at her worst when Adrien’s around, I swear. Especially in Volpina and Riposte. Maybe I just really like Chat Noir (you know even though they’re the same person).

Or maybe their dynamic doesn’t work for me. Like Marichat is just really goofy and fun for me. Even if they’re just bros and have no romantic interest.

Their interactions are just way more pleasant for me. Marinette’s just a lot less on edge and focused when she’s just Marinette. Just relaxed. And Chat’s just a bundle of fun. They just have really pleasant interactions.

Adrien and Marinette is cute and all, but I could never take it seriously because of how disinterested Adrien is in Marinette. Ladybug sometimes at least flirts back or you know, reacts in a suspicious way to his flirting, but Adrien and Marinette kind of suck in that sense. 

Marinette just doesn’t go anywhere with Adrien. Her friends actually praise her for getting a sentence out to him, like what the hell?

And the fandom freaked out when Marinette kissed him on the cheek in season 2, when Chat Noir confessed in that same season. I just feel that Adrien and Marinette should both evolve in their relationships at the same time, cohesion, you know?

The Ladynoir dynamic stayed the same despite the confession, so why shouldn’t the Adrienette dynamic? If anything Adrien would be more aware of Marinette.