#answered * / thus spoke zarathustra

[david-goldrock]

You voted for, so let me translate the entire poem

Let us talk about god About blind faith, and cold logic, and a lacking purpose A pale alternative to a pointless and alienated existence About the mantle and the lady and all that is familiar And the bitter truth of the thorn in the rose And the dangers of sugar and the cold reality Let us talk about god dsgnruwhurjehgtsbvalk

That is what I managed to write before the cat jumped on my keyboard Glanced at the words, glanced at me, glanced at the words And turned to lick its own ass

"Well, what's your opinion?" I asked it, for it is known cats do not tend to spare criticism If you wanna hear "Wow what a beautiful song" go and ask the dog For the truth, turn to a cat

Left the ass, glanced at me Glanced at the words, glanced at me His entirety is a Nietzsche's mustache The eyes of the abyss that looks back at you Uberkatze that will soon herald that god is dead (supercat, a reference to Nietzsche's "uberman") Opens his moth to talk, and thus spoke Zarathustra: "For someone who claims that god doesn't exist, you write about him a bunch, do you feel threatened?"

What? Threatened? From what? A flying spaghetti monster? No I just think that faith and god is a cool concept

It scoffs and responds: What do you fuck about? You dig (talk an excessive amount about something) And are an infidel And forces to confront And freeze in your place From the horror of the truth Because Darwinist monkeys Tried to trick To pile stones That cannot be lifted And cells from a fetus And a fossilized snail And big bangs And facts that most, as all Dwarven (become small, as dwarfs) On the banks of the everyday Of 7 billion Yearning souls From the heart of each land To the shore of each sea Go and tell all these That god doesn't exist

And then it hit me: The religification has come to me in my home! Because of course, a cat that once in Ancient Egypt was a god Now that were back to writing in emoji hieroglyphs, and the cat-worshiping gets a rejuvenation on all the walls of the internet Of course the cat will stand up to the side of the messianics, the darkened, the preachers and return-in-answerers (to return in an answer is a jewish idea, which I am unqualified to explain, but in this context it means to become religious) Well - Not in my house I won't be silent and I won't accept Religious compulsion from the mouth of a creature that licks its own ass

And it tells me: From the perspective of a cat Things are a bit different There is no Damocles' sword of time that is ticking Death approaches The end of the movie And in the meantime, we eat, and fuck Without doubting The world, ourselves By Allah Ya Allah You digged With all that messing around with "purpose" We start, we decay There's no one above No stairway to heaven Hell has no elevator

Well, exactly, so why search for imagined meaning? Why not settle for what there is - We were born for a short existence, kitty Let us fulfill it instead of casting the responsibility on some kind of creator There are better things to live by

Like what exactly?

Yes The tree is but a tree And the sea is but a sea But has anyone ever Seen democracy? Touched an ideology (In order to get the feeling of its texture) Or grasped an idea? Just today I hunted justice And I held a vision I hadn't met a cat That had counted its steps By a measure of morality Or a written contract Ironically you with the brain You don't have smarts Just the mercy of words That will build you a dam To stop the nothingness And to act as a reminder But the nothingness is winning I am sorry to herald And yet there's no shame in filling that which is empty Even you -

Me? I am a nihilist anyway, I don't believe in anything

Even you Rise very morning to work For money, a feeling of recognition and honor Maybe money exists if people live for it? If people are held by it? If people are worth because of it? If people fight, vouch for each other, sacrifice for it? If there's money, then there is god, why not? Nations and peoples and states ignite Flames in tens of thousands of hearts As far as I am concerned if all of them exist than god does too

Let us ask the audience, we'll do a survey here Who's more real, god, or Brad Pitt? Sorry for shoveling messages down your throats But no one ever died for Brad, the poor guy Certainly hadn't lived for him What is true: You You examine in a magnifying glass A view that's seen by a telescope Fight for flags And scoff at a horoscope If faith is a perspective Then the world's a kaleidoscope If life is a raging sea Then god is a periscope One can see with him high up And all looks clear If you hadn't begun to sink by now For this pitcher is hollow Take the word of a cat Every time over You kill god To crown under him A different hollow pitcher

You wanna talk about god? Let us talk about love Where is this love that you talk about? That you sing it?, that you write it? That you live it, you experience it You die for it, you kill for it Where is the evidence to prove the existence of this love? This catalyst, this causer The motive, the engine of life The battery of the existence, the fuel of the soul Where is this love? If there is no god, what about your love? If there is no god, what about love? If there is no god, what about love? If there is no god, what about love?

Its mustache bristles, and his eyes are boiling fire He finished And returned to lick its ass

I should have asked the dog

[intogenshin]

Philosophies of Sumeru

I have to wonder how deliberate were the choices for inspiration in the Sumeru region

The rainforest is mainly inspired by India, followed by Iran. The two countries have common ancestors, so their religious practices had an early shared worship of nature and some of the religious doctrine meets at certain parts.

More importantly, the ancient Persian religion, Zoroastrianism, was founded by Zoroaster —more commonly known by the name of Zarathustra in the book Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Frederick Nietzsche

Zoroastrianism holds monotheistic beliefs in dualistic cosmology of a world at conflict with good and evil, where people have the free will to choose between the two. This influenced the abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) which largely have shaped society in the west (and beyond by the colonizing hand)

Nietzsche called himself an immoral, as he rejected the traditional values imposed by western religious institutions, his borrowing of Zoroaster's figure was deliberate as he wanted him to be the voice of rejection of the code of morals he originated:

From Ecce Homo by Nietzsche

People have never asked me as they should have done, what the name of Zarathustra precisely meant in my mouth, in the mouth of the first immoralist; for that which distinguishes this Persian from all others in the past is the very fact that he was the exact reverse of an immoralist. Zarathustra was the first to see in the struggle between good and evil the essential wheel in the working of things. The translation of morality into the realm of metaphysics, as force, cause, end-in-itself, is his work. But the very question suggests its own answer. Zarathustra created this most portentous of all errors,—morality; therefore he must be the first to expose it. Not only because he has had longer and greater experience of the subject than any other thinker,—all history is indeed the experimental refutation of the theory of the so-called moral order of things,—but because of the more important fact that Zarathustra was the most truthful of thinkers. In his teaching alone is truthfulness upheld as the highest virtue—that is to say, as the reverse of the cowardice of the "idealist" who takes to his heels at the sight of reality. Zarathustra has more pluck in his body than all other thinkers put together. To tell the truth and to aim straight: that is the first Persian virtue. Have I made myself clear? ... The overcoming of morality by itself, through truthfulness, the moralist's overcoming of himself in his opposite—in me—that is what the name Zarathustra means in my mouth.

Nietzsche developed his ideas at a time where the Enlightenment had disproved many Christian beliefs, hence his declaration that "god is dead", in the face of scientific proof against belief the faith people had in their religion was dying. With this loss of hope also came a loss of meaning, since there was no longer a reassurance in Paradise or an all powerful god behind creation. Nietzsche believed the loss of meaning would lead people into nihilism, an apathetic state in which people let themselves be dominated like a herd.

Nietzsche was initially influenced by Schopenhauer, another philosopher who basically ripped off the Buddhist conception of suffering as an unavoidable truth in the world, and built his westernized ideas from there without following Buddhist teachings themselves. He believed that behind this suffering, humans were motivated by the "will to life" as a survival mechanism. Nietzsche, on the other hand, believed in the "will to power" instead, meaning that life was motivated by the desire to dominate or be dominated.

To combat nihilism, Nietzsche proposed the concept of the "overman", a man who would embrace life for what it is and create his own values to give himself meaning in the universe. These new values would replace those imposed by religious institutions and would lead the herd of people.

Now let's examine the Sumeru chapter under Nietzsche's lens: the god of wisdom, Lord Rukkhadevata, has died. The people of Sumeru have become overly reliant on the Akasha, now containing knowledge manually handled by the political class which doubles as religious caste (the Chinese name of the Akademiya is Sumeru Institute of Religious Decrees). The sages manufacture an artificial "overman" they want to turn into their new god. And in the fairytale where Nahida hid Scaramouche's memories, he threatens:

The resolution, however?

The overman does not succeed.

It fails.

Azar is overthrown and the artificial god is defeated with the collective power of Sumeru citizens. Alhaitham as well, being the closest to an overman in the region, refuses to "lead the herd" to follow his personal values when he resigns as Acting Grand Sage.

Nietzsche's philosophy arrived in India at a time where the nation was under British colonial rule. Among the most prominent figures in anticolonial movements and education, Rabindranath Tagore stands out the most, a polymath who funded his own school where he taught arts alongside science and brought education to rural areas.

Like Nietzsche, Tagore wanted to break from the rigid traditions of religion and build a society with new values. But unlike Nietzsche, his philosophy was based on humanistic values and unity with the world, both nature and community, as he was mostly influenced by Indian religious philosophy, especially the concept of Brahma, a divine universal consciousness that originated everything in existence, therefore, it exists within every part of creation. The story of Apep in Sumeru is somewhat similar.

Another defining difference is their view on Zoroaster/Zarathustra: while Nietzsche is critical of the influence in morality he left, Tagore describes it this way:

All religions of the primitive type try to keep men bound with regulations of external observances. Zarathustra was the greatest of all pioneer prophets who showed the path of freedom to man, the freedom of moral choice, the freedom from the blind obedience to unmeaning injunctions, the freedom from the multiplicity of shrines which draw our worship away from the single minded chastity of devotion.

...Man realizes his divine self in his religion, his God is no longer an outsider to be propitiated for a special concession. The consciousness of God transcends the limitations of race and gathers together all human beings within one spiritual circle of union. Zarathustra was the first prophet who emancipated religion from the exclusive narrowness of the tribal God, the God of a chosen people, and offered to the universal Man.

... Zarathustra was the first who addressed his words to all humanity, regardless of distance of space or time.

For Tagore, a monotheistic doctrine offers a foundation of goodness as an ideal of perfection for all people. That is to say, it seeks the collective well being of a community and reflects the goodness of god on the people that follow him.

The motto of the religion "good thoughts, good words, good deeds", which means that good thoughts lead to good words which lead to good deeds, is echoed in all three versions of the three talent books in Sumeru (admonition, praxis and ingenuity)

He also compares the altruistic acts of self sacrifice to the philosophy of Indian tradition:

The orthodox Persian form of worship in ancient Iran included animal sacrifices and offering of harms to the daevas. That all these should be discontinued by Zarathustra not only shows his courage, but the strength of his realization of the Supreme Being as spirit.

...It has been a matter of supreme satisfaction to me to me to realize that the purification of faith which was the mission of the great teachers in both communities, in Persia and in India, followed a similar line. We have already seen how Zarathustra spiritualized the meaning of sacrifice, which in former days consisted in external ritualism entailing bloodshed. The same thing we find in the Gita, the deeds that are done solely for the sake of self fetter our soul; the disinterested action, performed for the sake of the giving up of the self, is the true sacrifice. For creation itself comes of the self sacrifice of Brahma, which has no other purpose; and therefore, in our performance of the duty which is self sacrificing, we realize the spirit of Brahma.

Where Nietzsche ethical law of will to power calls for men to realize themselves through individualism, making their own values the dominating truth of the rest, Tagore believes in a unity of all, nature, community, god and man to seek their shared and ideal values.

The philosophical ideals of Sumeru, likewise, are met in community, collectivism and altruism. The region never lost their god after all, she was just imprisoned by those with individualistic values and hubris.

I always say that I'm interested in the religious dynamic of the Akademiya as an institution of education. Seeking knowledge is a faith in itself, since their god has her domain in wisdom.

Tagore quotes Dr Geiger on Zoroastrianism as such:

The revelation [Zarathustra] announces is to him no longer a matter of sentiment, no longer a merely undefined presentiment and conception of the Godhead, but a matter of intellect, of spiritual perception and knowledge. This is of great importance, for there are probably not many religions of so high antiquity in which this fundamental doctrine, that religion is a knowledge or a learning, a science of what is true, is so precisely declared as in the tenets of the Gathas. It is the unbelieving that are unknowing; on the contrary, the believing are learned because they have penetrated into this knowledge.

I also find it entertaining that, as we know, ancient Greek philosophers make up the foundations for modern western philosophy like that of Nietzsche's. Ancient Greek philosophers also borrowed from Zoroastrianism in a sort of exotized way, just like their modern western counterparts borrowed from Indian tradition without minding much the credits.

[hmslusitania]

I’ve been thinking a lot about Art lately. What it means, and what it means for people to create it, and what it means to be derivative, and what machines might do with it and the fact machine generated art (also called AI art in some circles) makes a hodgepodge, and the statement “imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.” Because what is machine generated art but imitation? Surely this is flattery?

Some months ago I had the opportunity to go to the Portland Symphony. It was for nerd reasons, the performance list was the battle between Star Wars vs Star Trek, but the conductor hadn’t arranged solely for pieces from Star Trek, or solely for John Williams. He included the theme from ET, and Thus Spake Zarathustra and Blue Danube from 2001, and then the music of a science fiction film from the 1930s no one in the audience had ever heard of before. And somewhere in the middle, he included one additional piece. It was his own, the first of his original compositions he’d ever had performed for an audience.

And it was lovely! It was an absolutely delightful piece of music, and he’d structured the show well enough that we could hear the pieces he’d incorporated that were from the Star Trek theme, that were in conversation with Michael Giacchino’s new Star Trek theme, that were borrowed from Strauss, that had John Williams oozing from the semiquavers and the rests.

It was imitation, and it was derivative, and it was beautiful and full of heart. It was the answer to why imitation is the sincerest form of flattery — it’s because that level of imitation isn’t saying “I couldn’t come up with anything on my own so I borrowed yours” it’s saying “the art you created so moved me that I could not imagine trying to express this piece of my soul without incorporating this thing you created into it.”

When people select the art that we imitate and that we derivate from, it’s an expression of love. It is an acknowledgement that the other has created something beautiful that spoke to us that we now can’t live without.

When computers do it, it’s just soulless. It’s matching defined bits and slapping them together. It isn’t an act of art or love (art and love are, of course, the same thing in their own way) it’s simply… mimicry. Heartless mimicry. It cannot replace actual art and everyone who tries to pretend it can is my enemy.

[ot3]

hi i'm stalking you and your orv tag and I came across the one where u and sash talked about the metaliterature and philosophical/theoretical present in orv https://ot3.tumblr.com/post/646102842844872704 here and I just wanna know if you have more of these from the top of your head? Sorry if this is a tall order, you don't have to answer this rn!

i outsourced this one to sash. everyone say thank you sash.

sash — Today at 7:55 PM okay. a little bit late but i've been giving it some thought.

i think the biggest Thing in orv in terms of philosophy is poststructuralism, and you're def going to find ideas by roland barthes in it (e.g. the classic "death of the author", or the idea of cultural phenomena as modern myths from "mythologies"). like, orv deals a lot with escaping clear categorizations and rejecting binaries + meaning of a text being generated from a network of related stories, rather than being intrinsic to one specific work. and those things are arguably the key characteristics of poststructuralism (though take this with a massive grain of salt bc it's notoriously difficult to define due to its very nature). i actually had an essay about this in the works but don't ask me when i'll finish it, it's currently languishing half-written in my google drive.

that aside sing shong namedrop quite a lot of literary works/philosophers. off the top of my head:

anna croft's zarathustra --> nietzsche's "thus spoke zarathustra" (i've seen a reddit essay that delves into this one in particular) theater dungeon endboss --> "simulacra and simulation" by jean baudrillard lsk's faction called "nouvelle vague" --> french art film movement from the 50s aileen makerfield's "etika clock store" --> POSSIBLY a reference to spinoza's "ethica" but do not take my word for this, it's just a wild guess fourth wall --> bertolt brecht's verfremdungseffekt hsy's --> "the neverending story" by michael ende outer gods/hounds of tindalos --> h.p. lovecraft (particularly sp --> nyarlathotep)

ofc there's also ysa's haruki murakami, han kang and raymond carver thing which. maybe that's a coincidence or just meant to highlight ysa's highbrow tastes but it's…. Something. in the epilogue, judith butler, roland barthes (or at least "mourning diary") and pierre bourdieu are mentioned by name as well. [8:00 PM] so like. there's A Lot. orv is juggling a million references at all times, some of which are super obvious (like journey to the west, wizard of oz or the book of revelations) and others are ??? who knows. they even like to draw connections to their other webnovels which is becoming even more relevant in the side stories.

sash — Today at 8:05 PM i have seen someone on postype talk about daniel dennett, walter benjamin and rené girard in relation to orv as well but i don't know much about them so i'm unsure if it's a case of sing shong planting explicit references that i have missed, or if op was simply doing "normal" analysis. point is that 1) sing shong love their french philosophers 2) if you want, you can find Anything in orv. there is a sheer endless amount of stuff to pick apart.

[wondereads]

September 2024 Monthly Wrap-Up

Reviews under the cut

Foster by Claire Keegan (★★★★☆)

This is an incredibly short read, but I highly recommend it if you're someone who enjoys family dynamics and a simple but evocative story. While I personally enjoy longer works, I still loved the writing of this novella. So much was said with very few words, and I was thoroughly attached to the characters by the end. It's an open ending, but it has more than enough room for hope in my opinion.

Shaman's Crossing by Robin Hobb (★★★☆☆)

A bit unfortunate that this should be my first Hobb book, as it seems to be considered her weakest series, and I can see why. This book has an incredibly interesting beginning and end and an absolute drag of a middle. I found the politics surrounding Gernia's expansion (and its mirroring of frontier America) and the conflicting magic systems, both suppressed by the primary religion, so intriguing, but most of this book is dedicated to the main character's time at a military academy. It was highly detailed—perhaps more than it should have been. While this book had its strong points, if you're looking for an engaging military fantasy series, I recommend Protector of the Small by Tamora Pierce or The Poppy War by R. F. Kuang instead.

Neon Gods by Katee Robert (★★☆☆☆)

I'm being a bit lenient with my rating because I can see the appeal of this to some people, but this book had way too much nothing for my taste. After hitting the 40% mark, most of this story is just the main characters being willfully ignorant to the other person's feelings and insisting they can't stay together because it would be selfish. I won't lie, I skimmed the latter half of this book. I was also quite distracted by worldbuilding questions (the names in particular throw me off), which never really get answered. Perhaps not the best choice of book for a hard fantasy nut like me.

The Flower of the Family by Elizabeth Prentiss (★★☆☆☆)

There is a reason this book has fallen out of favor everywhere but Christian homeschooling circles. This is one of the earliest "girls' books" in the US, so of course there are standards for femininity that don't align with today, but the way Lucy, the main character, is treated is just abhorrent. She is a free babysitting service for her family of ten children, so much so that she is so ill that going to stay with her extended family, away from the hoard of kids that can't do a thing without her, is the only way to improve her health. I doubt anyone will be raring to read this, so I have no guilt in saying that the book ends with one of her brothers and her mother dying, thus leaving her to care for her siblings until they are all grown up, after which she is married to a nameless man with all of one sentence dedicated to it. This poor girl.

Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche (no rating)

This is definitely outside my usual sphere, but it was assigned for my thesis (don't ask why, it'll take forever to explain). It was...a trip. That's really all I can say about it.

Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl by Harriet Jacobs (★★★★☆)

This is a bit of a tough read; Harriet Jacobs' fictional representative, Linda, does not suffer what many would deem the worst of American slavery, but she does not hesitate to explain how severely dehumanized she was. Reading this in conjunction with other children's book of the time (Flower of the Family, Little Women), truly reveals how differently Black and white girls experienced childhood, something that still echoes today, even if it's less extreme. While it's not the most dramatic or easy read, I absolutely recommend this book, especially if you're looking to expand your reading on Black experiences throughout American history.

The Bone Season by Samantha Shannon (★★★★☆)

I read the author's preferred text of this novel, but it still has the hallmarks of being written when Shannon was much younger. While the writing has likely improved, the premise is quite similar to a lot of 2010s YA dystopias. Despite being a dystopia, this book is a fantasy novel, taking place slightly in the future but after history was altered around the turn of the 20th century. I quite liked the main character, and I find the worldbuilding and magic system intriguing, though the romance was lackluster in my opinion. I really want to find out what is happening between the Rephaim and the Emim (it is certainly not just what Paige was told), so I'll definitely be continuing this series in the future.

Vampire Academy by Richelle Mead (★★★☆☆.5)

This was a vaguely interesting book. I think it had the potential to be better, but it's so quick-paced that it misses out on a lot of opportunities for worldbuilding, such as actually explaining how the political system of the vampire world works. Throughout a lot of this book, it honestly felt like Mead did not want to be writing about vampires. The mythology is so different that it feels more akin to fairies or perhaps an entirely new being. The relationship between Rose and Lissa is great, though I cannot believe they aren't each other's love interests with the way they act together, and the romance itself was decent. Yes, there is a crazy age gap, but as a Tamora Pierce stan I don't think I can judge. Overall, this was just a standard YA paranormal novel.

Little Women by Louisa May Alcott (★★★★☆)

This was my first time reading Little Women, and I did enjoy myself for the most part. I loved the complexity of the March sisters, both as individual characters and their relationships with one another, even though Jo is much stronger than me and I never would have forgiven Amy. This book is restrained by the time it was written in, but I think Alcott did a pretty decent job giving each of the sisters a happy ending (yes, even Beth, her ending is portrayed as peaceful and a welcome release) while still maintaining their personalities, even if they're a bit more subdued than when they were younger. There is debate over whether Jo underwent a character assassination, but I think Alcott did her best to give her a happy ending when a generally approved ending was antithetical to her character.

Currently Reading

Where Sleeping Girls Lie by Faridah Abike-Iyimide

Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson

October TBR

Babel by R. F. Kuang (rr, thesis)

The Poppy War by R. F. Kuang (rr, thesis)

The Dragon Republic by R. F. Kuang (thesis)

The Burning God by R. F. Kuang (thesis)

Mexican Gothic by Silvia Moreno-Garcia (rr, thesis, book club)

Vita Nostra by Marina and Sergey Dyachenko (book club)

The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins (book club)

Shadow Rider by Christine Feehan (book club)

Anne of Green Gables by L. M. Montgomery (class)

Harriet the Spy by Louise Fitzhugh (class)

Sweet Whispers, Brother Rush by Virginia Hamilton (class)

Sir Gawain and the Green Knight by Anonymous (class)

The City We Became by N. K. Jemisin

[kaibasupremacy]

For the ask meme, if you're interested in answering: Seto for 17 + 27 and also 23 because that seems like a soft and kind of silly fun question. And also, if you'd like, Pegasus for 25 and also 23. Thank you! I hope you have a nice day/night!

Thank you so much for the ask!! I feel very honored!! 🩵🩵

It’s the first time for me doing something like this because I often feel insecure about my character takes, or because I find it hard to answer questions on the spot. Also, I probably have more for all of these questions but this is just what comes to my mind now at 2 am.

17. Quotes, songs, poems, etc. that I associate with them

I actually have a playlist of songs that remind me of him, or his relationship with various people from his life, that I shared only with a small number of people because I’m kind of self conscious about my music tastes >.>

But there are certain songs that I just cannot help but think of him when I listen.

“Numb” and “Crawling” by Linkin Park, the first makes me think of his relationship with his father figures, the second of the effects of his trauma.

“Hoax” by Taylor Swift is a song I cannot help but associate with his relationship with Atem. I do not really ship them but his relationship with him is in canon Seto’s deepest connection besides the one with Mokuba, and probably Gozaburo. I feel like that song represents very well Seto’s feelings of bitterness at Atem leaving.

“You knew it still hurts underneath my scars

From when they pulled me apart

You knew the password, so I let you in the door

You knew you won, so what's the point of keeping score?

You knew it still hurts underneath my scars

From when they pulled me apart

But what you did was just as dark

Darling, this was just as hard

As when they pulled me apart”

As for quotes:

“you keep fighting because you feel you need to earn permission to exist. you're even willing to sacrifice your own life for it. no—one can grant you that affirmation. no stamp certifies that you deserve to live”

“And I was so young

When I behaved

Twenty five

Yet now I find

I've grown into

A tall child”

-Mitski, First Love/Late Spring (the whole song actually…I know it’s a reach, but my Seto brainrot forces me to see the words “window” and “ledge” and relate them only to him)

“We do not want to be spared by our best enemies, not by those either whom we love thoroughly”

-Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

“No one has ever written, painted, sculpted, modeled, built, or invented except literally to get out of hell”

-Antonin Artaud

“I don’t know what’s going to come out of me,” I told her. “It has to be perfect. It has to be irreproachable in every way.”

“Why?” she said.

“To make up for it,” I said. “To make up for the fact that it’s me”

-Suzanne Rivecca

As for the poem, it’s actually a rather dark one that I associate with him, Le Cœur supplicié by Arthur Rimbaud (tw for discussions of sa if anyone wants to look up how it has been often interpreted). To contextualize, my interpretation of the abuses Seto endured in his life is that they were very brutal. But I also associate it to the profound violation Seto experienced when Gozaburo stole his designs (or if you interpret it that he handed them over willingly in manga canon, how he would feel looking back at that).

27. Their guilty pleasure

Bad horror movies, because he is still the boy who built Death-T.

23. If they were a scented candle, what would they smell like? For both Seto and Pegasus.

For someone that loves scented candles, I am actually having trouble with this one. I’m going for coffee or moss for Seto. Maybe lavender for Pegasus?

25. 3 things they’d want to take with them if they were dropped off in the middle of nowhere (for Pegasus)

Not the biggest Pegasus fan or expert, but I would say a picture of Cyndia, a piece of Funny Bunny memorabilia and a bottle of wine.

[yegas]

Favorites and Travel for the ask game :)

hey Q, thank you for asking!! hope ur having a great day!

Favorites - what’s your favorite show, movie, and book? show - i hope anime counts lol i gotta say FMAB, it's just been so close to my heart for like 13 years, i love it sm. movie - the machinist, book - thus spoke zarathustra

Travel - if you could go anywhere in the world, where would you go and why? i know it sounds cliche af but i truly want to visit every country and i'll try my best to see as many as possible in my lifetime. there's something about travel that makes me feel alive like nothing else. but let me pick japan (shocker lmao) for this answer bc i'd like to live there for like 1-3 years, i feel like i'd experience some odd sense of serenity there, and feel at peace for quite some time. besides i'd love to get better at japanese since my language skills haven't improved in years lol

[vsnotresponding]

ALSO 9 and 10 icebreaker asks for that unnamed wip!

(just an aside. the wip is not unnamed. it's name is just Untitled Project)

hi!!! thanks for the ask

9. What are the most prominent themes in your wip?

themes themes themes

the biggest most important one for UP is "to say yes"

yeah well v what does that mean?

it all comes from Nietzsche's The vision and the riddle (in Thus Spoke Zarathustra), and the quote "Was that life? Up! Once more!", as well as the following scene in which Zarathustra and the Dwarf discuss circular time ("all truth is crooked, time itself is a circle")

"to say yes" is both about the characters saying yes to their own lives (eternity and the first lost soul and eventually the messiah) AND to circular time and what it implies (this one is mostly the messiah, but also the priestess)

all of this then encompasses the other main themes: the nature of time and our perception of it (linear and circular and the implications of both), destiny, grief and death and life

10. What is the main plot of your wip?

OH BOI. this is a difficult question to answer because of the scope of the story and how I intend to tell it

but basically there are two main plots that get told at the same time (even if one starts centuries before the other one)

they are Eternity (Ely) and the Messiah's (Lyric's) stories: how a kid ended up becoming the master of death, how a soldier saved humanity, and how they both eventually found peace (how they said yes)

how's humanity in danger/why does it need saving? well. there's these beings called lost souls that are going after humanity killing everyone they come across. as you do

(I was unsure on how to answer this question tbh. I have so many drafts too so if you have more questions please ask!!!! I love talking about UP)

[blackswaneuroparedux]

There is a theory which states that if ever for any reason anyone discovers what exactly the Universe is for and why it is here it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another that states that this has already happened.

- Douglas Adams

The idea of eternal return or eternal recurrence has existed in various forms since antiquity. Put simply, it's the theory that existence recurs in an infinite cycle as energy and matter transform over time. In ancient Greece, the Stoics believed that the universe went through repeating stages of transformation similar to those found in the "wheel of time" of Hinduism and Buddhism.

Such ideas of cyclical time later fell out of fashion, especially in the West, with the rise of Christianity. One notable exception is found in the work of Friedrich Nietzsche (1844–1900), a 19th-century German thinker who was known for his unconventional approach to philosophy. One of Nietzsche's most famous ideas is that of eternal recurrence, which appears in the penultimate section of his book The Gay Science.

The Gay Science is one of Nietzsche's most personal works, collecting not only his philosophical reflections but also a number of poems, aphorisms, and songs. The idea of eternal recurrence—which Nietzsche presents as a sort of thought experiment—appears in Aphorism 341, "The Greatest Weight":

"What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: 'This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence—even this spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and again, and you with it, speck of dust!'

"Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: 'You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine.' If this thought gained possession of you, it would change you as you are or perhaps crush you. The question in each and every thing, 'Do you desire this once more and innumerable times more?' would lie upon your actions as the greatest weight. Or how well disposed would you have to become to yourself and to life?"

Nietzsche reported that this thought came to him suddenly one day in August 1881 while he was taking a walk along a lake in Switzerland. After introducing the idea at the end of The Gay Science, he made it one of the fundamental concepts of his next work, Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Zarathustra, the prophet-like figure who proclaims Nietzsche’s teachings in this volume, is at first reluctant to articulate the idea, even to himself. Eventually, though, he proclaims that eternal recurrence is a joyful truth, one that should be embraced by anyone who lives life to the fullest.

Oddly enough, eternal recurrence doesn't figure too prominently into any of the works Nietzsche published after Thus Spoke Zarathustra. However, there is a section dedicated to the idea in The Will to Power, a collection of notes published by Nietzsche’s sister Elizabeth in 1901. In the passage, Nietzsche seems to seriously entertain the possibility that the doctrine is literally true. It is significant, however, that the philosopher never insists on the idea's literal truth in any of his other published writings. Rather, he presents eternal recurrence as a sort of thought experiment, a test of one's attitude toward life.

Nietzsche's philosophy is concerned with questions about freedom, action, and will. In presenting the idea of eternal recurrence, he asks us not to take the idea as truth but to ask ourselves what we would do if the idea were true. He assumes that our first reaction would be utter despair: the human condition is tragic; life contains much suffering; the thought that one must relive it all an infinite number of times seems terrible.

But then he imagines a different reaction. Suppose we could welcome the news, embrace it as something that we desire? That, says Nietzsche, would be the ultimate expression of a life-affirming attitude: to want this life, with all its pain and boredom and frustration, again and again. This thought connects with the dominant theme of Book IV of The Gay Science, which is the importance of being a “yea-sayer,” a life-affirmer, and of embracing amor fati (love of one’s fate).

This is also how the idea is presented in Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Zarathustra’s being able to embrace eternal recurrence is the ultimate expression of his love for life and his desire to remain “faithful to the earth.” Perhaps this would be the response of the "Übermnesch" or "Overman" who Zarathustra anticipates as a higher kind of human being. The contrast here is with religions like Christianity, which see this world as inferior, this life as mere preparation for a better life in paradise. Eternal recurrence thus offers a notion of immortality counter to the one proposed by Christianity.

Of all the ideas Nietzsche grappled with and put forward with such acute intelligence and brilliance, most philosophers are apt to give his notion of Eternal Recurrence a short thrift or quitely hush it under the nearest Persian rug in their study room.

Not only is it one of the philosopher’s weakest and most unconvincing theses, it is the one that sits in opposition to nearly everything else he wrote. For Nietzsche, despite his writing appearing wistful and gothic Romantic, was essentially an empiricist. He had no time for the dualism of Plato and only a fleeting but unconvinced interest in Kantian metaphysical idling about what lay beyond the tangible world. Nietzsche wrote that all there was for sure was the here and now.

This is exactly why he was not a militant atheist in the way we understand the expression today. He felt no need to concern himself with the veracity of Christianity’s claims about the afterlife, something we cannot be sure about. He seldom railed against the theological intricacies of Christianity or the truth claims of religion because to him the only thing that mattered was how religion affected us. He objected to Christianity because he saw it as nihilist and life-negating. Or rather he rebelled against the 19th Century practice of what the church had become would be more accurate account. It taught people to be meek, humble and to accept their lot. Nietzsche was an empiricist in that he wanted people to fulfil their life in the here and now, something that Christianity was hostile to.

Yet Nietzsche’s eternal recurrence belongs strangely to the realm of metaphysics and dualism. Its fatalism and determinism contradicts Nietzsche’s exhortation for each of us to become our own masters and to become who we truly are. While he did not believe in free will, he did believe that the Übermensch could harness and master the forces of his inner ‘will to power’. Contrarily, the eternal recurrence condemns us to history and supernatural fate. The notion of ‘eternal recurrence’ reeks too much of his youthful dalliance with Schopenhauerian metaphysics.

Is there anyting redeeming about Nietzsche’s fantastical notions of Eternal Recurrence? I think so.

Christian scholars are not alone with regard to giving weight to our daily life decisions as having significant eternal outcomes. Nietzsche, on the other hand, chooses to suggest our decisions in this life have weight because how we choose to live today will be replayed over and over again unto eternity.

Of course it’s a very unusual perspective in some respects, a variant on reincarnation, which also has us returning indefinitely, but in differing capacities. Scholars have argued whether the idea is meant as a serious conjecture or a concept to make us more thoughtful about our behaviour here and now.

I prefer to charitably believe Nietzsche’s sole intent with this concept of eternal recurrence was to get us plugged in to the significance of our acts. To paraphrase in modern vernacular, to live each day with greater mindfulness.

His was a brilliant mind, but as far as I am aware he does not offer a supporting argument for the notion proposed. It is a certainty that he understood that even if we ourselves were recurring, our circumstances would not be, for times change, culture changes, history is unfolding all around us.

Nietzsche then asks us: What about you? How do you go about living more purposefully and mindfully? What would you do differently if you were knew this day would be an eternally recurring experience?

Dare we have an answer?

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hi lyn

(ask game here)

23. what book to movie adaptation do you love?

not a movie but the lizzie bennet diaries my beloved. it's so good, and i love how they translated the characters (and plot) into a modern setting (i specially love what they did with lydia i love her so much in here)

as for movies idk, i like the hunger games movies but i wouldn't say i love them, so i guess i'll pick Arrival which i do love and it is based on a book :]

40. do you own any “rare” or “collector” books?

kinda? i have the litjoy crate editions of tfota (it has illustrations as well as new covers and it is annotated by the author) and pride and prejudice, and i have ordered the six of crows duology and the shadow and bone trilogy (illustrated and the first book comes annotated by bardugo)

i also have a pride and prejudice edition my friend gifted me that's from a library in portugal, and another pride and prejudice edition that comes with the letters separately

the rarest book i own tho is one in 21 in the whole world and it's my copy of Púlsar :] one copy is at my school because i did write púlsar as my TR, and the other 19 belong to my friends and some teachers who did buy it from me

48. what book would you give someone if they wanted a glimpse into your psyche?

first answer that comes to mind is Un somriure vermell com la sang ("A tale dark and grimm" in english) (the catalan title is so much better btw it translates to a smile as red as blood) (i also like the catalan translation more because of the impact a specific piece of dialogue has). this book changed my brain chemistry as a kid. it also has insane plot points for a children's book. i dont know if it glimpses into my psyche now, but it did mark me a lot as a kid

and i guess i could answer with my own writing? specifically my short stories. (thus spoke zarathustra is also a close second. damn that book rewired my teenage brain)

[aboutanancientenquiry]

“Persophilia”

“From the Biblical period and Classical Antiquity to the rise of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment, aspects of Persian culture have been integral to European history. A diverse constellation of European artists, poets, and thinkers have looked to Persia for inspiration, finding there a rich cultural counterpoint and frame of reference. Interest in all things Persian was no passing fancy but an enduring fascination that has shaped not just Western views but the self-image of Iranians up to the present day. Persophilia maps the changing geography of connections between Persia and the West over the centuries and shows that traffic in ideas about Persia and Persians did not travel on a one-way street. How did Iranians respond when they saw themselves reflected in Western mirrors? Expanding on Jürgen Habermas’s theory of the public sphere, and overcoming the limits of Edward Said, Hamid Dabashi answers this critical question by tracing the formation of a civic discursive space in Iran, seeing it as a prime example of a modern nation-state emerging from an ancient civilization in the context of European colonialism. The modern Iranian public sphere, Dabashi argues, cannot be understood apart from this dynamic interaction. Persophilia takes into its purview works as varied as Xenophon’s Cyropaedia and Nietzsche’s Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Handel’s Xerxes and Puccini’s Turandot, and Gauguin and Matisse’s fascination with Persian art. The result is a provocative reading of world history that dismantles normative historiography and alters our understanding of postcolonial nations.”

https://www.amazon.com/Persophilia-Persian-Culture-Global-Scene/dp/0674504690

Hamid Dabashi is Hagop Kevorkian Professor of Iranian Studies and Comparative Literature at Columbia University.

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@fightaers​ sent : ♗   (  accepting !  )

[diemuttergans-blog]

"some people need open enemies."

A SOUND LEAVES HER, intended to fill the space where the phrase 'is that so?' should have gone, had she put the effort into actually speaking it. Fontaine becoming philosophic was something she had grown used to since he had begun working on his book. It was... strange, unbefitting of a man who would utter his usual New Yorker slang under his breath to suddenly start spouting Nietzche at her.

Perhaps he knew of her interest in the man, but she doubted if this was Fontaine's latest flirtation attempt.

"--IF they are to rise to the level of their own virtue, virility, and cheerfulness." She completed the excerpt, accent heavy as she recited the memory. "Is the sort of thing Ryan is often speaking of. Free competition. You cannot become better without being... pushed. It is not encouraging you to be making enemies, Fontaine-- no matter how you are wanting to spin it."

nietzsche sentence starters // accepting

[a-god-in-ruins-rises]

What are some of your favorite books or films? (Including any books not just fictional)

per usual, this is impossible for me to answer completely and the following list is not exhaustive.

films: 2001: a space odyssey, children of men, drive, no country for old men, 300, troy, gladiator, jurassic park, saving private ryan, hateful eight, revenant, alien, the lion king, spirit: stallion of the cimarron, mad max: fury road, jacob's ladder, fight club, starship troopers, hereditary, the green room, the witch, ex machina, logan, blue ruin, the gray, whiplash, zero dark thirty, sicario, black hawk down, there will be blood, donnie darko, her, dr strangelove, in bruges, nightcrawler, prisoners, the fountain, requiem for a dream, vanilla sky, american beauty, mulholland drive, eyes wide shut, magnolia, lost in translation, waking life, tree of life, the handmaiden, gone girl, mirror, oldboy, apocalypse now, blade runner, blade runner 2049, truman show, eternal sunshine, mr nobody, the matrix, john wick, arrival, lotr trilogy, star wars prequel and original trilogies, heat, godfather part ii, etc.

books: to a god unknown, thus spoke zarathustra, the old man and the sea, lolita, storm of steel, the spirit of laws blood meridian, east of eden, sun and steel, confessions of a mask, paradise lost, leaves of grass, the child of pleasure, triumph of death, goethe's faust, coriolanus, holderlin's hyperion, marriage of heaven and hell, songs of innocence and experience, america a prophecy, treasure island, the little prince, the iliad, the odyssey, moby dick, heart of darkness, the columbiad, the hobbit, the republic, nicomachean ethics, after virtues, discourses on livy, letters of cicero, plutarch's lives, emerson's essays, montaigne's essays, call of the wild, les fleurs du mal, steppenwolf, a portrait of the artist as a young man, the notebooks of malte laurids brigge, as i lay dying, the oresteia, prometheus bound, antigone, swiss family robinson, on the road, the federalist papers, reason: the only oracle of man, frankenstein, robinson crusoe, the king in yellow, i ching, the analects, the rigveda, bhagavad gita, upanishads, moral epistles, beowulf, prose edda, aeneid, the golden ass, satyricon, juliette, 120 days, philosophy in the bedroom, story of the eye, etc.

[vsnotresponding]

Happy STS!

I know you like writing about time, so how many stories have you written with time as a central theme? Do they differ on how they deal with time much?

hi!!!!! happy (late) STS and thanks for the ask!

you just triggered an unskippable cutscene that got very very long

i don't know if i like writing about time or just thinking about it lol. it's just,,, time as a concept is unreal as fuck. and when you get to think about its nature things get even wilder.

this all started because my high school philosophy teacher read us a text from Nietzsche, the good old Thus Spoke Zarathustra. there's a portion on circular time, a portal that's an instant, the past before it and the future beyond. we then talked about circular and linear time. it truly is one of my fondest memories from that class.

a reflection about time was one of the questions of our final that year, how ethics and morality are affected by whether time is circular or linear.

my two short stories Event Horizon and Microwave Background (aka the surface on a black hole were light stops being able to escape its gravitational pull, and the first ever image of our universe we can obtain) deal with that question, or at least the original version did (which was quite literally what I answered in that exam. the first paragraph of Event Horizon is how my response started) (i also ended my answer with the word eternity on purpose so it would start and end with the same word)

the original version argued that in circular time we are not responsible for the terrible things humankind has made through history, but that we can't also take credit for what little good we've managed to make. freedom doesn't exist, regret is not a thing because "it was the only way"... even death loses its meaning. but there's also comfort in the cycle, in being part of a perfectly tuned machine that moves the same every time a new cycle starts.

then there's linear time, in which we are free, but also responsible. and insignificant. your actions won't affect the cosmos' order, you are nothing to chance, but there's morality to be found in your actions. because you are choosing them. they are yours, and only yours. and there's, of course, the end. forever.

what's posted in here is much more poetic and abstract, and still 70% what the original text looked like.

i'm still satisfied with the changes i made. i like the little hope there's in Event Horizon, of being able to change what's been determined by circular time. of perhaps, maybe, if we just *try*, we'll break the cycle. i wrote Microwave Background a year after Event Horizon, this time taking the side of linear time, imagining what the end would be like for an immortal being that finds themselves floating in space awaiting the death of the universe.

now i realize that in both of them i ended breaking time. in EH i call for breaking the cycle of circular time, and in MB, the immortal makes a choice. It isn't specified what they choose to do, and i don't even remember what my original idea was. but now i read as the immortal somehow changing time to prevent and endless ending.

in hindsight i can now see how these three stories (the original version, EH and MB) informed what Untitled Project ended up becoming.

I'd had this idea of a man feeling like he'd lived through his life before, only that his memories were slightly changed, and that that change was the presence of a mysterious person almost hovering over him. it eventually developed into what UP is now.

along the way i picked up circular time (it just fit right in with the story), and things just naturally cascaded down from then on.

time breaking in UP is the source of the main conflict, yes, but that's not the end of how much my previous stories about time have shaped it.

ely's arc in the final part of book 1 it's all about understanding circular time, because we are not programmed for it. we understand life with the before, the now, and the after. it's just one after the other, no going back. and it makes sense, it's how we experience it. we have no way of knowing if our time is circular or linear, we'll never have. time will keep on going, humanity will eventually perish, and so will the Universe cool and then... there might be a Big Crunch that reexplodes into another Big Bang, or there might be just nothing.

in UP time *is* circular, and it shapes everything. prophets don't see into the future, they remember. this has all already happened. "she's been dead since the beginning" and all that. but no character is aware of it, not Lyric, the "messiah", that has been raised to believe it's his destiny to save humanity; not Akira, who's death is non-negotiable.

no character is aware of it, until ely dies. they die protecting a god that can't die and is then gifted with eternity. but to master it they first need to understand it. they need to live through History until time breaks and feel every single moment, feel every death and every first breath, every life coming and going.

this was a theme in Zarathustra too. to look at circular time in the eyes and say yes, to accept it, accept it all. all of History, all the terrible things humankind has done through its run. yes, i would do it all again, yes i *will*. i will doom every single people to die again and again, because this, whatever it is, is worth it. all the happiness i've felt is worth it, all the pain if felt is worth it too. i *am* worth it all.

ely embraces it, the first lost soul doesn't. and so she sets to break time. and she does! she breaks it so much lyric has to be brought back and back again only so he can die when he had to.

the thing is (and this is why im so feral about the concept), the thing is that "this was the only way". this has already happened.

once the characters become aware of it, they have two choices, the only two real choices they have: say yes, or say no. ely has to truly say yes, lyric needs to say yes too (and, trust me, he fights against it until his last breath). hannah has to confront her feelings about destiny and prophecies (she hates the concept), and the first lost soul has to come to peace with what her life was.

and that's the thing with UP, in the end, it's all about that choice. because lyric's chosen not because of destiny, but because his legend was a comfort to a little lost child in time. because that little child found him in the first time thanks to a crow learning to say yes to the pain he'd gone through, only to be able to see his best friend again. because that friend would choose to save him, again and again, unknowingly, no matter time broken or iteration, to put himself in between blade and body.

the characters themselves say yes to their own story. to do it all again. and so it all ends with a god, once a kid lost in time, that has lived for eternity upon eternity saying they are ready to live it all again, and it all begins with an old man saying he's ready to die.

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Namjoon’s Books (An incomplete list to be updated intermittently. Please excuse the formatting. It too will be edited/updated.)

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Note: Author names translated into English are written surname first.

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나와 나타샤와 흰 당나귀 by 백석 (Poems) / Me, Natasha and a White Donkey by Baek Seok

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하늘과 바람과 별과 시 by 윤동주 (Poems) / Heaven, Wind, Stars, and Poems by Yoon Dong Joo

무소유 by 법정, 범우사 / Non-Ownership by Buddhist monk Bopjong (interpretation of title/possible subject matter: letting go of earthly possessions)

(Poetry) 사슴 by 백석 / Deer by Baek Seok

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원더보이 by 김연수 / Wonder Boy by Kim Yeon Su

길은 여기에 by 미우라 아야코 / Miura Ayako

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Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche

The Moon and Sixpence (달과 6펜스) by William Somerset Maugham

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The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky (split into three volumes)

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Books and Painting by Francis Bacon

(Artist book) Chang Ucchin, the most beloved painter in Korea (1917~1990)

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유영국저널 (in order pictured: 2005, 2007, 2003) / (Artist) Yoo Youngkuk Journals

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손상기의 삶과 예술 / Son Sang Ki’s Life and Art

(Artist book) MANNA LEE (2014)

혜화동70년 - 이대원 화문집 / Artist Lee Dae Won’s book on life and art in Hyehwa-dong

(Artist book) Jean-Michel Basquiat from Kukje Gallery

(Artist book) Wipeout in Hong Kong - Invasion Guide 06 by Invader

(Artist book) Invasion Los Angeles 2.1 by Invader

(Artist book) Paul Klee (파울 클레)

고통과 절망이 품은 따스한 빛 손상기 by 홍가이. Contributers: 이선영, 양정무, 고용수 / Book on artist Son Sang Ki

(Artist book) Ucchin. C.

(Artist book) 김우창과 김훈이 본 오치균의 그림세계 / The Art of Artist Oh Chi Gyun Seen Through the Eyes of Kim Oo Chang and Kim Hoon

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장자 / Zhuangzi (Chinese philosopher)

모멸감 by 김찬호

Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus (화성에서 온 남자 금성에서 온 여자) by John Gray

당신이 옳다 by 정혜신 (psychologist)

Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari

Cosmos by Carl Sagan

Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies (총,균,쇠) by Jared M. Diamond

The Story of Art (서양미술사) by E. H. Gombrich

곰브리치 세계사 (예일대 특별판) by 에른스트 H. 곰브리치 / The Story of Art by E. H. Gombrich (Yale University Special Edition)

변신 / Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka

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(Catalogue raisonné) Chandigarh: Le Corbusier & Pierre Jeanneret by Jacques Dworczak

The American Century: Art and Culture, 1950-2000 by Lisa Phillips

달도 따고 해도 따리라 (선화랑 김창실의 삶과 예술사랑) by 김창실

나의 문화유산답사기 10 : 서울편 2 by 유홍준 / My Cultural Heritage Answer Machine (Seoul Edition 2) by Yoo Hong Joon (Cultural Heritage Administrator)

나의 문화유산답사기 9 : 서울편 1 by 유홍준 / My Cultural Heritage Answer Machine (Seoul Edition 1) by Yoo Hong Joon (Cultural Heritage Administrator)

WHANKI MUSEUM Highlights

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(Artist book) Casa Wabi

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