#and watch the musical if you like disney and wicked

[slut-and-falcon]

OKAY IM BACK AND JUST WATCHED THE WICKED PART 1 MOVIE.

-it was so very gay! But there was still a lot of queer baiting, in the sense that our main 3 characters had overtly queer overtones and flirted with people of the same sex, but we never saw or was told of any overt physicality. There were a lot of queer extras though- like Bowen Yang as Pfanne! I liked the LGBTQ+ representation much better in the movie version than the stage version.

- they still casted a white Fiyero 😔. However I do like how the actor played Fieryo- like that man is a pansexual slut (not a slur but a lifestyle), and isn’t a complete asshole like he is in the beginning of the stage musical. But the blue dimonds??! Please have them in part 2!

- the music was fantastic!

-the visual beauty of this film- wow! That opening scene?!! I immediately need a Universal Studios version of the 4D Avatar Disney ride but as a flying monkey traveling through Oz.

-no Crope or Tibbit 😭

- no Quadding mention even though it’s in the fucking lyrics! Like that intro scene to Shiz where it’s under water- they could have had rubies in the sandbank!

- the Animal animation was okay, better than the Lion King. I liked they they didn’t try to make the animals bipedal. Kinda wished they would have had the Tiktoks murder Dillamond, but I understand the rating of the movie. It’s just a pivotal part of Elphaba’s radicalization though

- the marketing is literally just like Huger Games…like yall don’t know what this musical is about so you? lol

-I liked the Wizard- good casting choice! I would have loved to see a more tender moment between Elphaba and the Wizard tho, like some tears of gratefulness maybe? Really well home the betrayal

- I wanted more of Fiyero’s culture! AND OMG THEY CALLED HIM THE WINKIE PRINCE instead of the Vinkus. Like WINKIE is a slur! I would have loved to see Fiyero correct people on that terminology- show that he and his people are experiencing some oppression from greater Oz

- the bullet train- love it

-loved Elphaba and Nessa being mixed race (which makes sense), and Elphaba having micro braids! I loved how she looked! It also keeps the interracial relationship between Elphaba/Glinda/Fiyero alive.

-they mention the Time Clock Dragon but never explain it! :(

- Elphaba is very feminine…which okay. I wish she wasn’t but I also understand that they at least had a queer women play her.

Overall- great fucking movie, loved it way more than the stage musical. I’m going to go rewatch it in theaters with my mom.

My predictions for the wicked movie knowing Hollywood if they include elements of the book (which they should!!!):

-queer bait the shit out of Elphaba and Glinda

-they hired a white guy to play Fiyero so I’m betting they may attempt the whole subverting the race power dynamics thing instead of yknow sticking with the very clear allegories in the book. They also won’t let Fiyero wear his cultural clothing, instead sticking with a very boring suit or shirtpants

-make Elphaba very feminine…I swear the god if they don’t give her a too big man’s coat she wears in the book I will fight someone

- more of a tiktok thing that will happen: ‘Blue diamonds on a green field’ romance trend

-either they will focus too much on the Time Clock Dragon or not at all despite it’s importance to the plot

-if Crope and Tibbit are included, they either will not verbally queer but will either wear leather or have colored hankies (cuz the costume department knows what they are doing), or they will be the opposite of yassified

-they won’t show Tibbit (I think it’s him) in hospice dying of what is implied to be HIV/AIDS (which omg is such a large part of the plot and culture of which it was derived from! The whole ‘friends of Dorthy’ + queer women having to step up and care for queer men during HIV/AIDS crisis in the 80s and 90s and still to this day!!! There is so much subtext in that few pages!)

-the genocide of the Quaddlings for their land’s rubies won’t be mentioned or if it is they will ‘holocaust’-ify it and it will be very disrespectful

-they won’t make the Wizard like ale enough. The whole point in the musical is that he is so charming that even Elphaba is tempted. A fatherly actor, Tom Hanks??, should play the Wizard 🫢

-the Animal animation will either be extremely bad (like the Lion King remake), which is most likely, or they won’t use it at all. And tbh I want to see something like that is in Narnia.

-they will market it like they did the Hunger Games (I honestly don’t have much of a problem with this because I found that fascinating when that happened).

-it’s gonna be so straight. And that’s really sad because this book was written by a gay man, and has sooooooo many references to queer culture and most of the characters are canonically queer in some way. And honestly as depressing as the book is, I read it as a cathartic image of what LGBTQIA+ and POC go through. I think that is why I love it so much- I see myself and my pain and my community’s pain represented in a nuanced way.

-the only thing I can rely on happening is the violence against women 🙄 it’s in everything

I just really want a wicked series that is similar to Game of Thrones (with better writing) mixed with Pose and MASH, and be a political/action/horror thriller like Kingdom (K-drama). I know that’s complicated but it all plays out in my head lol.

I’m holding out this much 🤏🏻 hope.

[summonernoctis]

Day 10: Episode Ignis

He holds his arm to his stomach and bows, perfectly proper, as he’s trained since childhood to do. When the dutiful seconds are up, he lifts his eyes to the throne. To his king, long may he reign. Each time he looks upon that face, it’s like seeing it for the first time in ten years all over again; he takes his time recommitting each smile line to memory.

For royalty, Noctis’s expression is casual. Relaxed, as if this is the same routine they’ve followed each morning for years and will continue to follow for as long as they live. And they will live. He’s made sure of it. Ignis’s arm falls to his side, and he stands tall.

“Your Majesty,” he addresses, and revels in the way it brings a spark to Noct’s eyes. Exasperated by the formal address, but fondly. He knows. Not just what the mere freedom of sitting in a room cost, but the depth of all that Ignis is imploring him to receive. 

Noctis opens his mouth to speak just as Ignis’s one good eye opens to darkness. It’s as though the power went out unexpectedly–and in a way it did. Whatever magic allowed him to glimpse this possibility has run its course. So has the possibility itself. If Ignis had only made the right choices, gauged the situation more wisely. If he hadn’t let his fear get the best of him, then…

The Carbuncle statue is cold in his hand. Well, then that might have happened. A miraculous win at the Crystal, a fruitful decade of research, and all of them at their king’s side in the end. It would have all led to that moment: Noctis on the throne, a kind and benevolent king.

Noctis is dead. Ignis had clenched his bloody shirt with dirty fingers, searching hopelessly for a pulse, a breath, a sign of any sort. Instead, he was forced to relinquish his hold for good.

It’s foolish to believe otherwise. Ignis has placed his whole life firmly on the foundation of science and reason. A person dies, and they never come back. Even with all the wonders of magic and the Crystal, wishing cannot reverse this fate. This death in particular had been fated long ago by the most powerful of wills. And yet…

He thinks of the spark in Noctis’s eyes. The Noctis that he just looked upon, confident and regal and heart pumping with a magic embedded beyond any gift of his family. He thinks of the soft edges of Noctis’s smile.

“A power greater than that of the six.” The astrals were not the most powerful beings in the cosmos. If the vision that the messenger gifted him were any indication, Noctis could defy their wills. He’d have the strength to carry on after the battle, to thrive despite the crushing weight of his heritage and enemies. 

And maybe if the vision were the least bit plausible–just maybe–Ignis could be stronger, too.

If I believe in wishes, if I can find the key, Perhaps it’s not too late to change the course of fate – Cause after all, I must be pretty great if you believed in me. (”If I Believed,” Music by AJ Holmes, lyrics by Kaley McMahon) @ignoct-week

[loverboybrightsideghost]

there's a commercial on the local radio station for like at&t or something but it's in collaboration with the wicked movie, so it's a dad basically being like "my whole family is obsessed with wicked, our wifi can barely handle it!" idk it's just. i'm not entirely sure what it is i feel but i just remember how i was obsessed with so many musicals (including wicked) when i was in middle school and it was considered REALLY uncool. like i was a little weirdo for it, and i was always singing and always people were like "ugh shut up already." one time i tried to show my friend "for good" when i graduated eighth grade and her boyfriend (my former friend turned fucking bully asshole) told me "no, don't corrupt her with that!" by showing it to her. which is its own thing but. i don't know it feels weird to hear on the radio someone proudly say their family is obsessed with a musical, even if it is a fake family. it's like ha. in my time i got fucking bullied for that. there is also something strange i feel regarding that specifically as it is an advertisement, which means 1) the point is to advertise the movie (and the wifi) and 2) it's socially acceptable to some level to be obsessed with something that is being hyped up like some big cultural moment.

[mask131]

So... Wicked is coming back in style. And as such I need to make a little informative post.

Because since as early as my arrival onto the Internet, in the distant years of the late 2000s, a lot of people have been treating Wicked as some sort of "official" part of the Oz series. As part of the Oz canon or as THE "original" work everything else derives from (literaly, some people, probably kids, but did believe the MGM movie was made BASED on Wicked...) And as an Oz fan, that bothers me.

[Damn, ever since I watched Coco Peru's videos her voice echoes in my brain each time I say this line.]

So here's a few FACTS for you facts lovers.

The Wicked movie that is coming out right now (I was sold this as a series, turns out it is a movie duology?) is a cinematic adaptation of the stage musical Wicked created by Schwartz and Holzman, the Broadway classic and success of the 2000s (it was created in 2003).

Now, the Wicked musical everybody knows is itself an adaptation - and this fact is not as notorios, somehow? The Wicked musical is the adaptation of a novel released in 1995 by Gregory Maguire, called Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West. A very loose and condensed adaptation to say the least - as the Wicked musical is basically a lighter and simplified take on a much darker, brooding and mature tale. Basically fans of the novel have accused the musical of being some sort of honeyed, sugary-sweet, highschool-romance-fanfic-AU, while those who enjoyed the musical and went to see the novel are often shocked at discovering their favorite musical is based on what is basically a "dark and edgy - let's shock them all" take on the Oz lore. (Some do like both however, apparently? But I rarely met them.)

A side-fact which will be relevant later, is that this novel was but the first of a full series of novel Oz wrote about a dark-and-adult fantasy reimagining of the land of Oz - there's Son of a Witch, A Lion Among Men, Out of Oz, and more.

However the real fact I want to point out is that Maguire's novel, from which the musical itself derives, is a "grimmification" (to take back TV Tropes terminology) of the 1939 MGM movie The Wizard of Oz. The movie everybody knows when it comes to Oz, but that everybody forgets is itself the adaptation of a book - the same way people forget the Wicked musical is adapted from a novel. The MGM movie is adapted from L. Frank Baum's famous 1900 classic for children The Wonderful Wizard of Oz - and a quite loose adaptation that reimagines a lot of elements and details.

Now, a lot of people present Maguire's novel as being based/inspired/a revisionist take on Baum's novel... And that's false. Maguire's Wicked novel is clearly dominated by and mainly influenced by the MGM movie, with only a few book elements and details sprinkled on top. Mind you, the sequels Maguire wrote do take more elements, characters and plot points from the various Oz books of Baum... But they stay mostly Maguire's personal fantasy world. Yes, Oz "books" in plural - because that's a fact people tend to not know either... L. Frank Baum didn't just write one book about the Land of Oz. He wrote FOURTEEN of them, an entire series, because it was his most popular sales, and his audience like his editor pressured him to produce more (in fact he got sick of Oz and tried to write other books, but since they failed he was forced to continue Oz novels to survive). Everybody forgot about the Oz series due to the massive success of the starter novel - but it has a lot of very famous sequels, such as The Marvelous Land of Oz or Ozma of Oz (the later was loosely adapted by Disney as the famous 80s nostalgic-cursed movie Return to Oz).

So... To return to my original point. The current Wicked movies are not directly linked in any way to Baum's novel. The Wicked musical was already as "canon" and as "linked" to the MGM movie as 2013's Oz The Great and Powerful by Disney was. As for Maguire's novel, due to its dark, mature, brooding and more complex worldbuilding nature, I can only compare it to the recent attempt at making a "Game of Thrones Oz" through the television series Emerald City.

The Wicked movies coming out are separated from Baum's novel at the fourth degree. Because they are the movie adaptation of a musical adaptation of a novel reinventing a movie adaptation of the original children book.

And I could go even FURTHER if you dare me to and claim the Wicked movies are at the 5TH DEGREE! Because a little-known-fact is that the MGM movie was not a direct adaptation of Baum's novel... But rather took a lot of cues and influence from the massively famous stage-extravaganza of 1902 The Wizard of Oz... A musical adaptation of Baum's novel, created and written by Baum himself, and that was actually more popular than the novel in the pre-World War II America. It was from this enormous Broadway success (my my, how the snake bites its tail - the 1902 Wizard of Oz was the musical Wicked of its time) that, for example, the movie took the idea of the Good Witch of the North killing the sleeping-poppies with snow.

[fuzzyfrizzlefrack]

Musical nerd here, I’ll cosign that sentiment. As someone who genuinely likes both of these musicals, I entreat people who aren’t familiar with them to give a couple songs from each a listen before discounting either.

For the Broadway lovers who don’t usually watch shows from smaller companies (and yes, Starkid is definitely small potatoes compared to mainstream musical theatre), take a minute to accept that Twisted is a silly (but smart and earnest) lampoon of Disney’s Aladdin and Wicked put on with a shoestring budget. Once your expectations for costumes and set are in the right spot, take a look at Sands of Time/Golden Rule (the Evil Reprise is also good, but unfortunately this video cuts just as we get there).

Silly? Very. But also a perfect pastiche of 90s Disney musical arrangement and philosophy!

But Twisted isn’t just nostalgia - it pulls off a sweet love story even alongside Starkid’s requisite quota of dick jokes. A Thousand and One Nights is one of my favorite love songs.

And for the Starkid fans who only know Cats through the recent movie (haven’t seen it, can’t comment) or other pop culture, you have to accept that this is a deeply silly (but well produced) collection of TS Eliot poems set to music with only the loosest semblance of a coherent plot. Check out Skimbleshanks the Railway Cat to see the costumes, makeup, the way they all move - and stick around to see them create a steam engine out of trashcan lids and umbrellas at the end!

Also for your viewing pleasure, cat-David Bowie singing about his magician boyfriend, Mr. Mistoffelees.

[slashingdisneypasta]

Erik Destler x Fem!StageActress!Reader || Would Include...

Erik Destler always learning your on-stage romantic interests part totally and then 'dispatching' of the poor guy just before he's meant to go on so he then can always taking his place would include...

Warnings: Contemporary musical references, I don't care, shoot me. Also just basic Erik creepiness; murder and not-super-consensual kissing/touches (dub con at most).

Tagging: @marinerainbow and @masqueradeball .

🥀 Erik falling for you almost the moment you entered the Palais Garnier for the first time. He has no chill, we know this. He's like a Disney Princess. One song and he's fallen hopelessly in love.

🥀 Erik always keeping an eye on the cast lists when they come out- checking who you are and if you have a romantic interest. If you do, that person is now his main target. He may not kill them immediately, he'll wait until the final show on the final night, but there is a big red bullseye on their back now.

🥀 Erik practising 'his' lines (The lines of your on-stage romance) in his sewer room, reciting them to a dummy wearing some... familiar clothing. What? No, he didn't sneak into your chambers in the middle of the night and steal them from you! No, no! Absolutely not!... though you are missing a dress exactly like the one the doll is wearing. *cough*

🥀 Erik treating that doll of you with the utmost care. Almost as much as he'd treat you, the real you, with (Or, how he'd like to treat you. Only the lord knows if Erik could actually be gentle if given the chance to hold you). Its really creepy. Imagine his fingertips only grazing the dolls cheek very gently, but his eyes drift downwards (even though, again, its JUST A DOLL- ITS JUST STUFFING, ERIK!- Y O U ' R E T H E O N E W H O S T U F F E D I T- ) with very desire-filled eyes. Imagine him on one knee before the doll, holding its hand in his, its dead-eyes staring off into space while he professes deep speeches about love that are supposed to be romantic but just come out wrong and infatuated off Erik's tongue. Imagine Erik's hand wandering in the middle of a particularly heated scene; completely lost to his imagination.

🥀 Erik n e v e r, ever stealing the part of a villain. Even if that villain gets much more heated, or charged scenes with you then your actual love interest (Duke Monroth, Professor Callahan, Judge Turpin, Scar, etc). He wants to be your hero. Your prince, your true love.

🥀 Erik watching your every show, in his special box 5, studying you with eyes so hot you swear you can feel them on your skin every night. Paying so close attention, so he knows exactly how to compliment you on stage; how to be your perfect stage partner. This is why your scenes in every last show at the Palais Garnier are so impossibly electrifying to the audience- and, to you.

🥀 Erik allowing your casted partner to appear in the first few scenes with you during that last performance on that last night, so you never really know when its going to stop being the one guy and start being Erik- you're on your toes. Waiting the whole performance for the hand you grab onto to be Erik's. (He's waiting for the perfect moment to step in. The moment when you're really, really in character; lost to your art.)

🥀 Erik being the Christian to your Satine during 'El Tango De Roxanne' (His eyes upon your face. His hand upon your hand. His lips caress your skin. It's more than I can stand), 'Crazy Rolling' (See how I leave with every piece of you. Don't underestimate the things I will do), and 'Your Song Reprise' (Look at me... Satine... Why else live, if not for love?) in Moulin Rouge.

🥀 Erik being the Fiyero to your Elphaba during that super fucking charged 'As Long As You're Mine' scene in Wicked. You know? With you both on your knees on the stage surrounded by dramatic mist and you cant keep your hands off eachother?? *cough cough* I mean, with you both on your knees on the stage surrounded by dramatic mist and Fiyero and Elphaba cant keep their hands off eachother??? XD (Kiss me too fiercely, Hold me too tight; I need help believing, You're with me tonight, My wildest dreamings, Could not foresee, Lying beside you, With you wanting me // Every moment, As long as you're mine, I'll wake up my body, And make up for lost time.)

🥀 Erik being the Prince to your Sleeping Beauty, Snow White during the True Love's Kiss Scene. Oh yes, he definitely goes there. Did you doubt it?

🥀 Erik AS THE BEAST IN 'EVERMORE' TO YOUR BELLE IN BEAUTY AND THE BEAST!!!?

🥀 Erik never appearing at the end of the production to bow- he cant. You know that. So he makes his last moments on stage with you last, because honestly- who knows when the next time will be?? Its not like he can come call on you like a normal person... 🙄he's a dramatic freak. He holds your hand a few moments longer then necessary, or a little tighter. He kisses you one more time even though its not scripted.

🥀 Erik leaving you a bouquet of flowers in your dressing room after that last show on that last night. Signed simply, ceaselessly yours.

~

🥀 You tell yourself every time that the show must go on. You tell yourself, that thats why you don't stop it; Don't do anything.

🥀 You are lying to yourself. You cant deny the electricity crackling all over your skin every time you see Erik on stage with you, every time Erik touches you under fake pretences. You've never felt quite the same on stage then when he's there with you; you feel like you're really the characters... and there is nothing on earth like that feeling. No one else can give you this. No one but him.

🥀 You expect it now and anxiously await the moment when your practise partner (Just Erik's understudy. Thats what you're thinking of them now; the men who are actually cast) dematerialises from the stage and its Erik.

🥀 You always leave the flowers from Erik at the grave of the man who died. Its sick, the game (?? habit?? r e l a t i o n s h i p??) you're in, but you cant stop. And you cant apologise, so you can only do this.

🥀 You working extra hard to get lead roles at the Palais Garnier. As soon as one show is over, you have a hunger to do it again. Get another part, get Erik back on that stage with you.

Its like an addiction.

[lizzie-harper]

Modern AU Lyney - Headcanons

🪄 Definitely a theater kid. You cannot convince me otherwise. His top 3 musicals are: Heathers, Wicked, and Hamilton

🪄 His fave song from Heathers is either Meant to be Yours, or Freeze Your Brain

🪄 His fave from Hamilton is Say No To This

🪄 Takes you to see musicals with him if you enjoy them

🪄 One of those “naturally gifted” kids

🪄 Still lives with Arlecchino, Lynette, and Freminet

🪄 Scared of you meeting his ‘Father’ but never says anything about it

🪄 Really good at English, but sucks at math and science (he’s barely passing) so he gets you to tutor him 👍

🪄 The tutoring sessions consist of you teaching and him giving you a lovesick stare and just looking at your lips

🪄 The tutoring somewhat works because now he has a reason to do decent in tests (he lives for your praise)

🪄 Loves ancient history. Don’t know why, he just has a fascination with it

🪄 Took French as a subject in school so he could do really well on the assignments since he’s French and is basically fluent

🪄 Also takes drama

🪄 He deffo uses those cringey TikTok pick-up lines on you to try and flirt, I’m sorry

🪄 He’s so glad you get along with Lynette — a bit jealous though of the amount of time you spend with her outside of school and inside school

🪄 Gives you roses and chocolates every Valentine’s day without fail, even before you two start dating

🪄 He wrote fanfiction when he was 12 (it was about Miraculous Ladybug)

🪄 He still watches Miraculous Ladybug. He’s too invested in the show to stop even though it sometimes infuriates him on spiritual levels

🪄 Forces you to have Disney marathons with him and his siblings

🪄 Looks like he knows a lot about fashion, but he just got style advice from Lynette and Freminet

🪄 He’s the kinda guy to play Geometry Dash instead of paying attention in class

🪄 However, if you miss a class for whatever reason, he will pay attention and give his notes to you (he only wrote them for you, he doesn’t plan on ever using them)

[comicaurora]

Hiya Red! ♥️

This is in regards to something you mentioned about the OST of Last Unicorn.

I love that film and have watched it many, *many* times! And - like you - I always found the duet distinctly... off. I never could pin down why, I just knew it made me uncomfortable and didn't seem to fit. With the movie or even just the rest of the soundtrack. But when you discribed it as 'out of the singers' range' I had something of an epiphany and I couldn't help but wonder what you'd think of it, so here I am. 😆

What *if* that is actually sneaky characterisation/commentary on the romantic subplot? I mean, this whole soundtrack is so well put together I feel like it has to be intentional, right?

The way I see it both singers are straining just like the characters are, for something that is just out of their reach. And also isn't really right for them. And I feel like on some level they know it. That, I think, is why the climax of the song is particularly discordant. It's to signify that them coming together, as they are doing in the scene, is wrong. For them as people and for the story at large.

Dunno. Just my two cents.

I would love to hear your thoughts on it. IF you have the time and energy to spare! No stress! Most of all I just wanted to let you know about a possible (maybe?) reason for this weird thing, just in case it kept bothering you. (As a fellow ADHD brain I know it be like that sometimes. 😄)

Thank you so much for all your hard work! Love your channel so much! You guys are the best!! And can't wait to see your next stream! (You gotta save my giiiirl!!! 😭🐉)

💖💖💖

Tbh I kinda doubt they'd intentionally make music that sounds bad to do that, when there are many musically pleasing ways to signal that a romantic duet is between characters that are actually incompatible - even things like Love is an Open Door, where "we finish each other's-" "sandwiches!" "That's what I was gonna say!" helpfully hints that Hans is fluidly saying whatever he needs to in order to appeal to Anna without making the audience's ears hurt. One of the more impactful bits of the Death Note musical is that Misa keeps trying to have a romantic duet with Light and Light is much too busy having homoerotic duets with L instead, so Misa ends up basically belting a solo over the much more synced-up music of the dynamic duo. It's a musically pleasing way to signal which characters are in sync and which ones aren't. Several songs in Wicked do this too, like in Dancing Through Life where the romantic duo declare that since they're both perfect they must be perfect together, or the song that basically says "I must be happy, because happy is what happens when all your dreams come true."

I think the main thing that makes that duet not work is that it's one of the only parts of the OST that's sung by the main voice cast rather than a professional singer. The composition is solid, but it kinda sounded like it wasn't composed with their personal ranges in mind - possibly composed before they were cast. They could've done what disney was doing - cast a singer for the character songs and a separate voice actor for the dialogue - which they apparently did in the theatrical release, having Kate Irving sing instead of Mia Farrow, but they didn't for the video release, so the voice actors have to just try their best, possibly with only one or two takes to do it in, and the end result is a bit of a mess.

[astro-b-o-y-d]

I am watching Twisted again

I need to watch Twisted again

[prosebushpatch]

Okay so I recently, finally, watched Wish and I have some thoughts. Overall, not as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but still has a lot of fundamental story problems and I've got to get them off of my chest. I'll mostly be focused on Magnifico because I think his motivations and arc largely represent the problem with the overall theme.

Okay so my biggest problem with Magnifico is his motivation. His tragic backstory. How on earth does he go from losing his whole family to thinking, the only way he can prevent that from happening again is to grant wishes? The logic doesn't track. It almost makes sense in his creating a kingdom where he protects everyone and "doesn't even charge rent," but it does not make sense with his wish granting. Having a great need to be control to make sure he doesn't lose anyone ever again can be a compelling motivation for a villain, where we see lines crossed that don't justify the intent, but in the movie, he's too self-absorbed to seem to have any actual care for the people of Rosas.

I think if the motivation was changed to something like Magnifico had once been a bright-eyed, enthusiastic wish granter who blindly believed all wishes were good but learned the hard way that that wasn't true could have been a better fit for the overall goal of the movie. Imagine that he granted a wish for a wicked person who used that wish to hurt others, or if Magnifico granted a wish but that wish ended up ruining the person's life because what they wanted wasn't what they needed (i.e. Remember The Princess and the Frog? Dig a little deeper) and that person could have went after Magnifico and blamed him for their troubles (harkening back to We Don't Talk about Bruno). This would be an understandable tragic backstory for Magnifico, and better explain why he's so careful about the wishes he grants. And, perhaps the reason he keeps the wishes he doesn't want to grant is to keep the people in his kingdom docile. No one will be angry with him for not granting their wishes if he makes them forget them and lose that drive and motivation, which makes more sense than the unexplained hording them like he does in the movie? Why does he keep them in the movie other than admiring the wishes? It doesn't make sense to me.

This would give Asha more of a reason to oppose him, if it's shown how his desire to not get hurt or to inadvertently cause hurt turned into a paranoia where he drains people of wishes to fly or play music that inspires others. And, as a side note, we need to see more of how Rosas is a kingdom of people who lack drive and motivation, where only those younger than 18 have that special part of them that inspires them to chase after a dream (something that Astor Rhymemaster touched on). Because that's the point of wishes, right? That's the point of the entire Disney canon. A dream is a wish your heart makes. That star can only get you so far, it takes hard work and determination. It's wanting something better in life, it's dreaming of leaving behind all you know to chase after a tangible light. It's finding a new dream, it's finding a new wish as you grow and learn about yourself and the world.

I don't think the movie Wish understood what makes wishes so important in Disney stories. You know what wishes do? They ignite change. It's not about getting what you want, it's about finding the courage to chase after something better. Ariel wants to be where the people are, but really she wants to be somewhere where others are willing to understand her and in the end, she finds that and makes amends with her father, who finally is willing to see her for who she is. Rapunzel wants to see the lights, and that desire pushes her to leave a tower she's been trapped in her whole life, learning that the world is not as cruel and cold as her abusive mother told her. Cinderella wants to go to the ball, to dance with people who treat her as a person and not a servant of cinders and ash. That wish is granted by a fairy godmother and gives her a hope that is worth fighting for, a hope that helps her reclaim what is rightfully hers; a glass slipper that fits only her and the love that comes with it.

Wishes inspire change. The movie should have been about that. Magnifico could have been right, that some wishes inspire negative change that can drag down multiple people. The kingdom of Rosas could have been so placid because change is scary. Maybe Magnifico could have convinced people, after taking their wish, that it wasn't worth it. Maybe the wish ceremonies could have changed so it wasn't portrayed as some sort of lottery everyone looks forward to, but Magnifico would grant wishes on the spot if he decided they were good and worthwhile, and he would lock away the wishes that would cause trouble and tribulations. 18 year olds could be enthusiastic to give him their wishes, thinking they were surely good and worth granting, only to forget their wish and be told that their wish would have only brought about their unhappiness, this would have justified a more solemn tone in the kingdom, setting up a world where people are mostly downtrodden, thinking their wishes are bad and pointless and they're better off without them. Imagine Cinderella or Rapunzel being told their wishes weren't good, reinforcing all the things their abusive families tell them, taking away that hope and courage to find something better for themselves.

Here's where the true conflict could come in. Asha could be onto this from the beginning, and her opening song could have been about this concern that the people who didn't get their wishes granted aren't willing to try at all. (Because, after all, why doesn't Sabino play music at all? Having that taken from him would take so much joy and creative expression from his life!) But why does Asha know something is amiss?

Simon.

Imagine that Magnifico has a strict rule not to ever share your wish with another person because then it wouldn't come true. It makes sense with our own superstitions, and then makes it so that no one knows anyone else's wishes. Maybe your best friend changes so drastically after giving up their wish, but you believe, like everyone else, that their wish would have only caused suffering. What can you do about it? Well what if Simon told Asha about his wish? What if Asha knew his wish wasn't dangerous and couldn't imagine a way that it could go wrong? That would give her a reason to doubt Magnifico and put more emphasis on how Simon has lost his drive like all the other adults in the kingdom. And it can also emphasize in the end that sharing your wishes and dreams with others can be a powerful thing. Just the act of sharing your dreams can inspire others to go after their own, and they can give you the encouragement to chase your wish too. Wishes inspire change, love gives you the courage to make it happen.

Imagine if the star boy used to be a human, who wished to help others and lost his humanity to do it. Imagine his wish confirms Magnifico's belief, that wishes cause suffering because star boy lost his tether to earth and is separated from the people he loves. Imagine how he foils Asha who also wants to grant everyone's wishes. Imagine him ensuring she doesn't make the same mistake he did while she gives him a reason to change again, to anchor himself to humanity again because he loves her enough not to leave for forever.

Imagine the movie confirming that, yes, change is scary. Chasing your dreams won't always make things better. You might fail more than you succeed and some wishes cannot coincide with each other, leading to grief and strife. But some wishes are worth it. Sometimes, chasing after something better and failing is worth leaving a worse situation. Sometimes taking that chance is worth it, and, like in all fairy tales, if you are kind and generous and act with love, that will make all the difference in the end.

Also, I know everyone wished for a Magnifico and Amaya evil power couple, but imagine if Magnifico was truly in love with Amaya, as he is in the movie, but that love is eventually his undoing. Like Amaya leaps in front of Asha, and Magnifico stops or redirects his attack because she's the one thing he loves more than himself and that is the weakness that Asha and co can take advantage of. Imagine Amaya keeping Magnifico in the mirror and he gets to dote on her from his imprisonment for forever. I'm just saying. At least 30 sickos like me would be into that. Imagine the depth it would give to the themes of love and change and wishing and how acts of love make all the difference.

Alright, I'll get off my soap box. I just really wish Wish could have been stronger because these fairy tales Disney is famous for matter. They really do. But the movie feels too stale and shallow and too much of a cash grab that knows the outline of a disney musical, but is unable to understand the heart of why they work.

[themousefromfantasyland]

Wicked: Part One (2024) - Review

Yesterday I watched Wicked: Part One which adapts the first act of the beloved musical and I have to say, I was blown away.

This is the best film of the year.

I need start this by saying that watching Wicked felt like watching The Little Mermaid remake last year.

This film is Universal's response to Disney's Live action remakes.

In the same way that Disney capitalized the love and nostalgia for their classics to sell their remakes, Universal capitalizes the love and nostalgia for the stage show to sell this movie.

Here in Brazil, our montage of the show is very, very beloved. So Universal saw that, used the lyrics of the Brazilian version in the dub and even put the Brazilian actresses of Elphaba and Glinda to dub their movie counterparts. Universal dubbed the movie hoping Brazilian audiences would sing along, in the same way Disney remakes keep the lyrics of the Brazilian versions of the classics.

Also, the tone is the same of a Disney live action remake. Even though Wicked has darker elements and has political subtexts, it never stops being a family fantasy musical, and Elphaba never stops being a proto-Elsa. Wicked is a fantasy family musical first and is in the same league as Frozen and Tangled.

However, Wicked is beneficed by not having a perfectly made cinematic source material that is already good on its own.

Movie and stage are different beasts, and contrary to Disney remakes which already have source materials that are pretty cinematic on their own, Wicked has to deal with a source material that is limited to what's possible in a stage show, so it has better chances to actually improve and expand the show into new ways.

If Doctor Dillamond was an animated character in the original, his movie design would be atrocious, but since the original is just a man in a goat makeup, the movie design is already a huge improvement.

The Land of Oz is fantastically created. There's CGI everywhere, but they actually took the gigantic budget to actually build the sets this time and the money is really put into what you see on screen.

The Land of Oz is vibrant and colorful, a mix between the Mediterranean and Americana with tons of Steampunk and talking animals that are integrated into the everyday life. The world feels lived in, and it's the most real Oz ever felt since ever.

And the tidbits of visual storytelling are insane.

The way that the worship of the Wizard is in every facade of the Ozian society, and how the once thriving culture of the talking animals was replaced by the Wizard and how they are being reduced to silent servants of the elites in the Emerald City.

All of this narrative you get through quick visual cues all over the film.

It was a five stars film for me, a 10/10.

Please, watch it. You'll be absolutely enchanted

@ariel-seagull-wings @thealmightyemprex @princesssarisa @tamisdava2 @the-dark-storybook-prince @the-blue-fairie @mask131 @theancientvaleofsoulmaking

[its-your-girl-geekerella]

Prequel movies that no one asked for

So... that new Transformers movie looks good. Maybe. I don't know, I'm not a Transformers fan. (I've seen the movies, I'm just not a huge fan) It's got 89% rotten tomatoes currently, so I guess that means it's good.

But wouldn't you rather an original movie series?

Look, I have no problem with a prequel. Wicked is a great musical. I've never had a problem with Cruella. Wonka was a fantastic movie! But WHEN will it stop? They keep making prequel movies because we keep watching them. We keep giving them good reviews. We don't stop to ask ourselves what quality of movie we deserve.

Take the upcoming Mufasa movie. I am a HUGE fan of The Lion King. I grew up with it. Huge nostalgia profit if this movie is a success. If the movie flops like the live action? Disney is going to receive a lot of backlash. I would rather you not ruin one of my favorite franchises and play on my nostalgia for a cash grab than to have me watch a (possibly successful) prequel that NO ONE ASKED FOR ANYWAY.

If you like a movie, I'm not going to tell you not to watch it. If you're enjoying Disney/WB prequels, watch them! I just hope that we, as a group of millions of movie lovers, are more intelligent than Disney seems to think we are, and can differentiate a good movie from a cash grab.

Especially since Transformers One and Mufasa seem to have the exact same plot anyway.

[twomanyfandomshelp]

Hiya, welcome to my blog! This is gonna be all over the place, I can already tell, so you’ve been warned.

Disclaimer: Please do not ask me for money/donations. I’m a minor who has no way to pay for them or know if it’s a scam. I’m very sorry for whatever you’re going through, but I can’t help you. Any and all asks requesting money/donations will be deleted.

About Me Personally

Name: Lily

Pronouns: She/her

Sexuality: Aroace 🧡💛🤍🩵💙

Zodiac Sign/Birthday: Libra, October 1st

Country: United States (it’s a shitshow get me out of here please)

Likes: Pink, animals in general but especially dogs, literally anything sweet but especially chocolate, potatoes, autumn, reading, watching movies, swimming, cooking, baking, card games, board games, and spending time with family and friends

Dislikes: Spiders, peanut butter, spice, being cold, sand, stupid people, waking up early, politics, and horror books/movies

Extra Info: I’m an introvert and my personality type is Mediator (INFP-T)

Fandoms

As the name would suggest, I’m part of WAY too many fandoms, but I will do my best to list them all. In no particular order they are:

Percy Jackson 🔱

Harry Potter 🦉

Marauders 🐺 (yes I consider that a different fandom than Harry Potter)

Heartstopper 🏳️‍🌈

The Hunger Games 🏹

Marvel Cinematic Universe💥

Disney 🪄

Wings of Fire 🔥

Life Series SMP 💚 💛 ❤️ (mcyt)

Empires SMP 🌎 (mcyt)

New to Hermitcraft SMP 💎 (mcyt) thanks to smallishbeans

Currently obsessed with Epic: The Musical ⚔️ Please go listen to it if you haven’t already, Jorge Rivera Herrans is a genius!

Pretty much any fantasy or sci-fi book 📖 I’ve been a pretty avid reader my whole life, so there are a lot of standalones, small series, or underrated stories that I really like.

I’m also a theater kid. My favorite musicals are

The Sound of Music 🎶

Newsies 🗞️

Hamilton ✍🏼

Wicked 💚 🩷

The Lightning Thief: The Percy Jackson Musical ⚡️

Six 👑

Mean Girls the Musical 📕

Fandom Related Info

Hogwarts House: Hufflepuff 💛 🖤

Godly Parent: Apollo ☀️ Athena 📚 or Poseidon 🌊

District: District 4 🎣

My Tag Lists

This is my list of mutuals that I tag in whatever tag games I get tagged in or stumble across.

General Tag List

@sushis-mylifeee @ivys-garden @thekingofworems @the-stars-are-ineffable @bippityboppityouch @kingofdandelions @sushi1056 @nyx-of-darkness-1620 @aaronofithaca05 @theghostnamedspecter @rubbercrowy @imobsessedwiththeatre @donutsalami @azoperoa @theoneandonlywinnie @rosegoldenatlas @the-decapod @decapodsrandomfandom @chaoticrei @jarondont @cherrytea556 @harley-the-pancake @thatstevenuniversegay @forest-city @chaotic-agender @alphabetical-az @fallenrain40 @shamelesswolfstarshipper @magicalmyths @a-fucking-tornado @poppitron360 @janru-writer @neilarissa @theconfusedbookshrimp @shellywith2ls @yourlocalbadgerscales @g0blinm0d3 @stargazing-with-friends

Epic the Musical

@thekingofworems @nyx-of-darkness-1620 @aaronofithaca05 @theghostnamedspecter @imobsessedwiththeatre @rosegoldenatlas @decapodsrandomfandom @alphabetical-az @jarondont @magicalmyths @a-fucking-tornado @shellywith2ls @g0blinm0d3 @stargazing-with-friends

Queer

@thekingofworems @bippityboppityyouch @kingofdandelions @aeolianmusic @sushi1056 @theghostnamedspecter @rubbercrowy @donutsalami @azoperoa @theoneandonlywinnie @rosegoldenatlas @the-decapod @chaoticrei @cherrytea556 @harley-the-pancake @thatstevenuniversegay @forest-city @chaotic-agender @fallenrain40 @shamelesswolfstarshipper @magicalmyths @a-fucking-tornado @poppitron360 @theconfusedbookshrimp @agayidiotsblog @yourlocalbadgerscales @g0blinm0d3

[catholic-character-tournament]

Round 1 - Side A

Propaganda below ⬇️

Claude Frollo Propaganda:

This man got horny and his response was “that woman must burn”

I love him so much. More seriously Book Frollo is much more ambivalent than Disney Movie Frollo which makes sense because we're talking about Victor Hugo VS a children's movie. He didn't kill Quasimodo's mom, he took him in (when himself was only nineteen and already in charge of his own baby brother since their parents had died not long before) when he was left on the church's doorstep. I mean, he does quite a few reprehensible and slightly evil stuff afterwards but he had a good start, you know ? He taught Quasi to communicate by signs when he became deaf because of the bells. He was also very much into alchemy which was pretty cool. His behavior towards Esmeralda was still very much not okay but I'd like to point out that Phoebus is also a jerk in this one. And Quasi's quite a bit amoral because no intelligent enough to understand some stuff

I actually haven't gotten very far through the book yet but from the musical (not the disney one the other one it's SO GOOD) I can confirm he sucks at being catholic. literally tells a child over and over that he's ugly and unlovable until he fully believes it and won't let the kid go outside. https://genius.com/Alan-menken-out-there-lyrics (lyrics to the song in which frollo convinces quasimodo he's unlovable. ableist as hell and shitty in every way you can possibly imagine and it breaks my heart every time. feel free to listen to the actual track but it doesn’t get good until about 40 seconds in) frollo keeps saying it's good and right to punish sinners himself, and it's not right that the wicked go unpunished. there's a really satisfying moment in the musical where quasimodo sees him for what he is and repeats his words back to him (7:45 - 8:54, frollo is the one with the insanely deep voice) and it gives me goosebumps every time to hear that "yes you do" link to that video: https://youtu.be/HL7WZcTIgus

I honestly wrote this submission because I suffered from severe insomnia for being reminded that I might have poor taste when it comes to enjoying media since I enjoy Disney version of Frollo even after I watched other versions of this character. (I am so sorry the host yes I am that annoying anon lying in the dark little corner of your ask box. I have no other thing to do in my life so hello again) His character is different from the original novel version, and to be honest as an adoption, that is NOT necessarily WRONG. He had more struggles with his pride and his self-imagine in the Catholic framework. "Beata Maria, you know I am a righteous man, of my virtue I am justly proud" as the opening line of his villain song, clearly states his main struggle throughout the movie--pride and self-imagine (super-ego) vs lust and instinct (id). Once his self-imagine in the Catholic framework was on shaking ground, he bent his twisted sense of "righteous" to make him less painful. Tbh, the novel version used the example of Bruno d’Ast to justify his hornyness, so it's just classical Frollo behaviour no matter which version it is. (SMASH THE TABLE) HAVE YOU READ~~THE NOVEL~~ I REPEAT: HIS CHARACTER IS NOT JUST "I HATE WITCHCRAFT AND I AM HORNY AND RACIST". I REPEAT: HIS CHARACTER IS NOT JUST "I HATE WITCHCRAFT AND I AM HORNY AND RACIST". I REPEAT: HIS CHARACTER IS NOT JUST "I HATE WITCHCRAFT AND I AM HORNY AND RACIST". I am sorry for the noise pollution in your submission Google form. I should have taken my sedatives regularly. I am truly sorry. Also please don't bully me in the debate, novel/musical enjoyers. LOOK, I AIN'T YOUR ENEMY. I LOVE NOVEL/MUSICAL FROLLO, I JUST LOVE DISNEY VERSION AS WELL, I AM AS TORMENTED AS YOUR FAVORITE CATHOLIC PRIEST. I am not a native tongue, so I tried my best to express my thoughts/feelings/justification why Disney version should be a qualified candidate as well. If you tried to debate with me, I would be drowned in my poor English. Sorry again.

Javert Propaganda:

His whole deal is like, “can someone still be good even if they’ve broken the law? Can you still be godly if you’re a felon” He really believes that by upholding the law, he is absolutely in the moral right all the time. And when he realizes that’s not true, it absolutely destroys him

he is the law and the law is not mocked <3 he is also. so gay. i'm sorry i refuse to believe you're even a little heterosexual if you chase jean valjean for like over 20 years for breaking parole and/or bread theft and recognise him by his muscles and have a major moral crisis as soon as he's nice to you one (1) time also he gets called out by a child that one time?? that was fun ALSO HE UHH???? THINKS HE SCREWED UP ONE TIME AND LIKE. ASKS HIS BOSS TO FIRE HIM???? (the boss is valjean he doesn't know that yet dw abt it) also uh uhm. he jumps into a river,,,, but before he does that he feels the need to put his hat on the fence nearby so it doesn't get wet lmao he's so silly goofy <3333

[nextdoor-loser]

Hello! As y'all probably know by now, musicals are a BIG interest of mine. So I decided to make a list of all musicals I ever listened to. Mainly because I like categorizing stuff.

Feel free to use this to recommend me something (I'm trying to make to 100 musicals lol), or use this as a recommendation list for yourself (I tried to put my favorites on top, but don't take the placements to heart)

Before we start, some ground rules: I'm focusing on stage productions and concept albuns. There might be *some* movies. I'm not counting Disney or this would be twice the size.

Also, I count "listened to" as in "I listened to most/all of the songs and know enough of the plot".

• Hamilton (My favorite by far. Nothing can compare. Best thing ever. I'll never get tired of it.)

LIST:

S TIER: These are my general faves. I like most of the songs and know the plot back to back. Can probably talk for hours about them.

• Jesus Christ Superstar (not even religious, but man, this has me on a chokehold)

• Epic: the musical (not finished but it's alredy good like that)

• Falsettos

• Spies Are Forever (criminally underrated, if not any other, watch this one, it's free on YouTube)

• Hadestown

• Warriors

• In the Heights

• Twisted

• Les Miserables

• Company

• Legally blonde

A TIER: Really good musicals! Like 9/10 stuff. I think most of them are in this category.

• The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals

• Be More Chill

• Heathers

• Come From Away

• A Chorus Line

• Dear Evan Hansen

• Ryde The Cyclone

• The Count Of Mount Cristo

• Waitress

• Into the Woods

• The Unnoficial Bridgerton Musical (no, I'm not proud of myself. In my defense, it's kinda of a banger)

• Tick tick boom

• The Last 5 Years

• A Very Potter Trilogy (can't separate them)

• Chicago

• Sweeney Todd

• Something Rotten

• A new brain

• Newsies

• Grease

• Bare

• Nerdy Prudes Must Die

• Wicked

• Six

B TIER: Also good musicals, I just don't listen to them as much as the others and don't have many opinions about it.

• Anastasia

• Beetlejuice

• The Prom

• 1776

• Mean girls

• The Great Gatsby

• Some Like It Hot

• Joseph Tecnhocolor Coat

• Starship

• The Lighting Thief

• 36 Questions

• The Mad Ones

• Mamma Mia

• Matilda

• Carrie the musical

• Firebringer

• 21 chump street

• Black Friday

C TIER: They're fine. Might have some bangers, but I probably wouldn't think of them immediately when asked. Or maybe there's not enough content to justify putting them up.

• Spongebob Squarepants, the new musical

• Shrek the musical

• Dr Horrible Sing-along

• The Theory of Relativity

• Catch Me If You Can

• Beloved King (only what's available on YouTube/Spotify)

• Ordinary Days

• The book of mormon

• 35MM

• Holy Musical B@man

• Trail to Oregon

• Avenue Q

• Me & My Dick

[venomous-qwille]

Whenever you have a chance, what genre of movie/book would each of the gitm folks enjoy most? :0c

Oh boy! Thanks, these types of questions are always fun! Sunspot Mk1 - He reads detective fiction and crime drama! He does have a love for childrens books though <3

Misuta - He is a voracious reader, (he can and will read EVERYTHING) particularly loves classics buuuut he has a wicked soft spot for romance novels (both trashy and non trashy).

Fool - He does like comedy but is first and foremost a fan of theater and musicals! He knows his shakespeare back to back and is well versed in other classics as well as myths and epics!

Sol - Ah Sol. Sol is not much of a reader (he has other outlets). He is very soft for disney (which he has only been exposed to over the last five years) but that's a secret ;) Nova - Hard Sci-fi. He loves his space operas!! Also westerns :)

Clip - Has never read a book in his life :( He would probably watch horror movies just as an excuse to scare/cuddle yn.

Ruin - has yet to experience life outside Fazco daycare, it will be fun to see what he likes most :)

Bonus Sanii - only reads manga. Unironically would enjoy superhero stuff.