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10 year old Erica Sinclair asked to climb through a vent and saying "I don't have phobias" played as a joke
but then they're in a Russian lab and she's still not afraid. she's mad about missing a sleepover and Uncle Jack's birthday party
she helps Dustin rescue Robin and Steve and doesn't show an ounce of fear
she yells at Murray and clowns the adults and tells them why their plan is bullshit
she hikes up to Cerebro and helps Dustin reach Suzie
she never once is afraid, even though it's meant to be a joke when she said that
when she's invited to Hellfire, Eddie goes full dickhead senior and talks down to her thinking the kids are pulling his leg and not taking him or the game seriously
and does she falter? no! she gives as good as she gets and rips him a new one because social pecking orders are stupid and she can handle her shit
when the cops start flinging mud at Hellfire she snaps the fuck back
when they drag Lucas, Max, and Dustin in as suspects she doesn't waver in her assurance that Hellfire has nothing to do with the deaths
when they tell her it's something from before she isn't scared — she starts asking the right questions to help them win
she walks into a store that caters to people who hate anyone who looks like her and fills the cart with weapons and supplies
the only time — THE ONLY TIME— we see her afraid is when she can't get through the door to Lucas
because she might think she's better than everyone in Hawkins (she is)
she might think she can handle her shit (she can)
but she does have one (1) phobia
because she might be fierce and formidable and badass
but her greatest strength is her loyalty. she likes to act like her only loyalty is to her bottom line, to what Erica gets out of this
but these stupid weirdos earned her loyalty too
and she'll be damned if she can't save them
#I'm rewatching season 3 rn and got to the phobias scene#and I realized she really never showed fear#not until she couldn't reach Lucas#she tells him all the time how dumb he is#in s3 she literally says 'isn't it time you died?'#and when she can't get through that door#she remembers every time she ever said it or anything like it#and the guilt weighs so much#she literally throws her body against the door trying to get through#knowing Jason Carver is a creep and a dumbass and a racist#and she's only what? 12?#but that's her goddamn brother and she's not afraid of a bully#she's afraid of not doing enough#misc#stranger things#rambles#Erica Sinclair#sure she screams in the elevator but one could argue that's also like screaming in a rollercoaster I'm talking true fear
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Imagine if Machete was Muslim instead of Catholic. His name would be something like Saif سيف, and Vasco would probably be something like Dhahabi ذَهَبِيّ
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#I don't know Arabic so I can't weigh in that much but if you say so!#it seems like these mean “sword” and “golden” respectively that's neat#Machete wouldn't be able to cling to his Catholic guilt in that case#I don't think Islam has the same concept of original sin that Christianity does#I'm simplifying but it's a belief that humans are born with an innate tendency for evil sinning is part of our nature#and staying on the positive and in God's good graces requires a lot of repentance which can lead to excess guilt and shame#I could be wrong but I'm under the impression that this idea of a manufacturing error is a very Christian thing#sorry I know you didn't sign up to hear me try to talk about big theology things and I don't want to make it weird#but I find this stuff really interesting I unironically like to read and think about how religions work#and how they shape things they come in contact with#in Machete's case in particular his troubled relationship with God and his career choice are big parts of his character#and why he turned the way he did and thinks the way he does you know#answered#kachavashka#Dhahabi is such a regal sounding name#I'd steal that in a heartbeat if I didn't already have one extremely gold-coded character
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its fucking me up so much tho because like. for dapper specifically the island reset is SUCH a good thing. it gets him AWAY from the vultures and his lab. it’s given him so much to do- he doesnt need to worry about reaching above and beyond to be helpful to Painful extents because he’s already above and beyond with his knowledge and willingness the learn. He can play with birds and go exploring with his dad and it’s fresh and new and fun!!!
but now his dad forgot him. he lost his dad for a whole night and when bad came back he didnt fuckigng recognize him. dapper wasnt remembered by the other islanders on the train because bad is ALWAYS there to remember him but now his dad had trouble recognizing him when he was right in front of him. “IT’S ME DAD” god. dapper has so many distractions right now from her self-harming helpfulness, but there’s nothing that can distract her from this
#qsmp dapper#qsmp badboyhalo#i bet dapper will feel in some way responsible to fix this#to find a way to make it better#he already does so much to take care of his dad#the machines and the melotonin cake and the egginess#but . he felt so Heavy on the main island yknow#it felt like dapper was weighed down by self-imposed responsibility#or guilt#or longing#and now he’s been free to play and now his dad cant fucking remember him#mi huevito ohhhhuhhhgg
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Me reading the description of episode 30: oh, that's fine! that's not so bad! i can deal with that!
Me after listening to episode 30:
#reaction pic by @kalo-pop#so how are we dealing folks.#there is. so much. so many bad decisions.#colin for one is fucked. alice girl you're about to have soooo much guilt added on to you#teddy might not be doing too hot either so with sam that's 3 people that are going to weigh on your conscience!#most importantly though. gwen and lana. *that* was the scariest part of the episode.#gwen has just doomed them all i fear (even more than they already were)#i knew celia was up to something but i was still SHOCKED like oh my god girl you really were not going to hesitate#im *sure* we're going to hear from sam again. i'm sure. i'm just... not sure if it will actually be sam.#or if it will be all him if you get my drift#all in all a great finale! we got to the hole in the universe faster than i expected#but i guess it just feels like that bc im a tma veteran#it was much more manageable than tma's s1 finale at least lmao. i *could not* handle the worm sounds#... oh man what am i going to do on thursdays now???#we do still have the epilogue and bonus content coming but then???#it will be a barren few months#the magnus protocol#tmagp#tmagp spoilers#tmagp 30
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It’s important that the first revelation of Nissa Nissa is accompanied by some level of skepticism from Salladhor Saan and aversion on Davos’ part. It doesn’t sound right that Azor Ahai chose to sacrifice his wife for a magic sword. It shouldn’t sound right.
“A hundred days and a hundred nights he labored on the third blade, and as it glowed white-hot in the sacred fires, he summoned his wife. ‘Nissa Nissa,’ he said to her, for that was her name, ‘bare your breast, and know that I love you best of all that is in this world.’ She did this thing, why I cannot say, and Azor Ahai thrust the smoking sword through her living heart. It is said that her cry of anguish and ecstasy left a crack across the face of the moon, but her blood and her soul and her strength and her courage all went into the steel. Such is the tale of the forging of Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes.
“Now do you see my meaning? Be glad that it is just a burnt sword that His Grace pulled from that fire. Too much light can hurt the eyes, my friend, and fire burns.” Salladhor Saan finished the last grape and smacked his lips. “When do you think the king will bid us sail, good ser?”
[…] A true sword of fire, now, that would be a wonder to behold. Yet at such a cost … When he thought of Nissa Nissa, it was his own Marya he pictured, a good-natured plump woman with sagging breasts and a kindly smile, the best woman in the world. He tried to picture himself driving a sword through her, and shuddered. I am not made of the stuff of heroes, he decided. If that was the price of a magic sword, it was more than he cared to pay.
Not only does it not make sense that Nissa Nissa would agree to her husband’s request, it’s also telling how Salladhor Saan expresses relief in knowing that King Stannis didn’t actually forge Lightbringer. Because forging Lightbringer means human sacrifice. And why should one be deprived of their life, even if it’s for a magic sword? Davos is very right to be creeped out by it.
The theme of sacrifice shows up quite a bit in ASOIAF and Davos I isn’t the first or last time. The very first chapter in the series, Bran I, tackles this idea with Jon and the direwolves.
“Lord Stark,” Jon said. It was strange to hear him call Father that, so formal. Bran looked at him with desperate hope. “There are five pups,” he told Father. “Three male, two female.”
“What of it, Jon?”
“You have five trueborn children,” Jon said. “Three sons, two daughters. The direwolf is the sigil of your House. Your children were meant to have these pups, my lord.”
Bran saw his father’s face change, saw the other men exchange glances. He loved Jon with all his heart at that moment. Even at seven, Bran understood what his brother had done. The count had come right only because Jon had omitted himself. He had included the girls, included even Rickon, the baby, but not the bastard who bore the surname Snow, the name that custom decreed be given to all those in the north unlucky enough to be born with no name of their own.
Their father understood as well. “You want no pup for yourself, Jon?” he asked softly.
“The direwolf graces the banners of House Stark,” Jon pointed out. “I am no Stark, Father.”
Jon, though he may desperately desire to have his own piece of magic, would not sacrifice his siblings for it. He wouldn’t dare to deprave the girls, Arya and Sansa, of their own magic even when it might be very easy to do so. This is a pretty stark contrast (pun intended) to Azor Ahai and his Nissa Nissa. Azor Ahai’s first line of thought was to sacrifice his wife whereas Jon’s was to sacrifice himself. Sure Azor Ahai got his magic sword, but Jon’s self-sacrifice is not in vain either because he later earns his own wolf, who turns out to be even more special than the rest in the pack.
Bran IV kind of alludes to the idea of self sacrifice through Old Nan’s retelling of the last hero:
So as cold and death filled the earth, the last hero determined to seek out the children, in the hopes that their ancient magics could win back what the armies of men had lost. He set out into the dead lands with a sword, a horse, a dog, and a dozen companions. For years he searched, until he despaired of ever finding the children of the forest in their secret cities. One by one his friends died, and his horse, and finally even his dog, and his sword froze so hard the blade snapped when he tried to use it. And the Others smelled the hot blood in him, and came silent on his trail, stalking him with packs of pale white spiders big as hounds—”
Though the one we know is called the “last hero”, notice that it’s not a title but a mere descriptor; there were many heroes before him who died and he was the last one standing. There is a human toll in this legend, but it’s implied to be self sacrifice. It’s also interesting that though there is mention of a blade, it is the children of the forest’s magic that is key. This does kind of bleed into what we know about the Night’s Watch and its relation to the long night. The Night’s Watch victory was a group effort, rather than the actions of any one man.
We have several legends surrounding the long night that work, but only one involves the cost of sacrificing someone else (that we know of). This might be where GRRM is headed with Stannis and his creation of Lightbringer. Sure Azor Ahai did get his magic sword, but it doesn’t negate the steep human cost. GRRM has lowkey confirmed that Stannis is sure to burn Shireen. And rather than this sacrifice not working, I think it’s more likely that it does work. Stannis does indeed create the flaming sword. But this will be directly weighed by other (self) sacrifices made for the same purpose. Stannis’ sacrifice of his daughter won’t work any better than other characters who choose to sacrifice themselves even when knowing that they are not going to go down as individual legends; I think Jon Snow will once again be the prime example of this, as he has already resigned himself to being a shadow in history despite initially wanting the opposite. Maester Aemon was right in saying that
[…] all deceive ourselves, when we want to believe. Melisandre most of all, I think. The sword is wrong, she has to know that … light without heat … an empty glamor … the sword is wrong, and the false light can only lead us deeper into darkness, Sam
The sword is wrong. Azor Ahai is NOT one to be emulated. Rather, he should be a cautionary tale. He is not any more special for his sacrifice than what the last hero or the men of the Night’s Watch did, even though we know his name but don’t know theirs. GRRM answered the question regarding sacrifice before he even posed it. To make someone else pay the price is flat out wrong. The only true and worthy sacrifice is really that of the self.
#asoiaf#valyrianscrolls#azor ahai#the last hero#stannis baratheon#jon snow#the night's watch#didn’t put in the post but if Jon’s ADWD dream turns out to be true and he does gain his own flaming sword i tend to think he’ll get it#by giving up himself or part of himself in the process#jon is perhaps the most self sacrificial character in this series#which is why theories that dany will be his nissa nissa miss the mark almost entirely#if jon is to be a hero he will do it by sacrificing himself not someone else#he already demonstrated this in agot when he refused a direwolf and again in adwd when he refused winterfell#stannis is meant to be his foil so we could see them being weighed against each other#not to mention that jon’s adwd dream is very much a last hero retelling with references to his companions falling#and him outlasting them though there’s a really interesting reference to him killing robb and ygritte#but I think it’s more to do with killing his own desires to remain at the wall - in addition to his feelings of guilt and abandonment
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thinking about how desperately the yellowjackets are still trying to slot each other and themselves into these clean little boxes even years later. “lottie’s the crazy one” even though they all are. “misty’s the violent one” even though they all are. “nat’s the one with a fucked up romantic past that keeps hurting her years later” but they all are. “shauna’s the one who lost a baby” even though they all are. “tai’s the one that clawed her way through life despite the difficulties” even though they! all! are!
#sarah watches yellowjackets#yellowjackets spoilers#like obviously shauna was the one that physically birthed the kid and miscarried#that was a trauma for all of them#misty? that guilt is still weighing on her years and years later#lottie was so sure that they could make it work#but then it DIDN'T she's the FOREST PROPHET and she was WRONG#and then she got beaten three quarters of the way to death over it#and tai's clearly shouldering most of the burden of shauna's emotional state#they all wanted that baby so much#and it died.#(except ben. ben left the building a loooonnnngggg time ago)#yellowjackets meta
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MY HEARTTTTTT
that one sided convo is actually so heartbreaking I fucking CANT
cant help but wonder what donnie was thinking hearing it :(
#ask#probably a lot of guilt and shame#man now that i think about it raph doesnt even know donnie locks his door now because of HIM#and clearly its weighing on him so much....
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This is a difficult post for me to make, but to anyone whos commissioned me and is waiting on it, it may take a little longer than I wanted. My cat, Sammy, passed away last night and its really taking a toll on me and my mental health. Its difficult to work through but I'll be doing my best. Thank you for the patience so far with it all, and I'm sorry to ask for more of that patience. Thank you for understanding. Let me know if theres any issues regarding the wait, sorry again.
#cant guarantee ill be on top of my game. yknow#he passed in my arms#he was well loved but he was sick and there wasnt much else we could do#its been weighing heavy on me since he got sick but having him pass in my arms on the way to the vet was horrible. i cant#even begin to express how devastated i am. he was my baby. my youngest cat. but he always had health issues yknow?#i guess it was inevitable but it all feels like a bad dream#idk. sorry guys#im used to death. used to grieving. but it still doesnt feel real. or right#the last time we experienced a pet death was for our realllly old childhood dog. she lived a long time#my sammers was so young.#he deserved so much more time. he was so loving and sweet. and he had little fangs and tufts on his ears.#and hed lay over my boots when i came in the room. hed curl up against my legs and purr like a motor.#hed always be making biscuits when he saw people. with his big paws. they felt so big compared to his long lanky little body.#misha and rin (our other two cats that were around him most) have been laying with me for hours. rin slept on me all night#misha slept in sammys cat bed. like he knew#idk. im sorry#ig ill tag this for any triggers#pet death#animal death#sorry.again thank you all for being patient with me. i have unending guilt. im sorry#seraph.txt#if anyone has questions or comments youre welcome to comment or reach out. ill try and reach out too.sorry
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give me the macbeth thoughts, bestie
all of that ambition and ruthlessness and intensity of feeling relegated to a body that will NEVER be allowed to have it, that will ALWAYS be punished for it in the end. driven mad by what you did and what you cannot do simultaneously!!!
I don't play any silly games thinking there was some deeper meaning having mary play lady macbeth in canon, it was like just a slapstick juxtaposition to show her trying to take on some serious role. but this is MY circus, and these are MY monkeys, and therefore I can say whatever I want.
imho there is a significance in having a character whose defining trait is their disability, who is physically different in a way that will always see them undermined/undervalued/dismissed/etc ad nauseum, playing the role of a woman historically viewed as this pinnacle of evil, this inciter of violence, but the actual nuance of that are so murky and mired in context and morals I could go on and on and on
her ambition and her drive for power leads her to use others to commit acts of violence and to use others, even the people she loves, to have acts of violence be committed for her. and in the end the guilt of that and the potential consequences/aftermath drive her insane. but she can't escape herself. unsex me now etc etc but that isn't how it works in her world and it isn't how it works in mary's — you are what you are and you have to make do, even if your version of making do leads only to tragedy
#ataviisms#this is horrendously phrased I could put this a thousand times more neatly but take word vomit#idk idk idk I love macbeth overall the tragedy of it the abandoning of morality one moment only to be consumed by guilt in the next#guilt not only that you did the horrendous thing BUT that you even if only a little bit WANTED to do it#you WANTED the power and that WANTING was so inescapable and the pressure around you so great that it overrode the tenets of human decency#how much is love how much is manipulation how much is greed and how do you weigh your own actions at the end of it all#;;ooc.
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Growing up w a mom who both wants to talk to you about all of her feelings but also somehow doesn’t know how to talk about your feelings but also she’s your best friend and also she’s done so much for you but she ruins your day constantly and you love her but you haven’t told her that in months when she says she loves you you say “yeah” and walk away and she’s sick and you’ve been asking her every time you get up if she needs anything if she wants the bong packed if she needs water food whatever and then the one time I’m nauseous making food for myself (eating for the first time today at one pm) she leans into the kitchen and asks me to make her scrambled eggs and I said no maybe after I eat and she said okay and then went back into her room and then I took my food and went into my room and was just eating when she came into my room to yell at me and cry about me not ever helping her and I said no I can cook after I eat a little I was nauseas and she was just like [yelled through tears] no I’m making myself toast you don’t need to do anything for me! And slammed my bedroom door and went loudly crying across the house and now I’m just in my room like oh okay 👍 thanks ! So I might go to the library for a bit maybe and listen to my mommy issues playlist on the way there and sob
#lol! okay sure this might as well be how my day goes today sure#no cause she made me feel so fucking awful that I didn’t immediately fucking bend to her will it’s insane the guilt this woman can lay on#i said I haven’t eaten yet today she immediately said ‘ I haven’t eaten in three days I weigh ___ (low number for her bc she’s always keepin#me in the loop on her weight cause that helps raise children with normal relationships to themselves and their own weight#anyways#yeah !! yipppe !! and I was on the phone with my girlfriend and she had to fucking listen to my mom yell at me !!!#apparently she deafened but idk when she did but I have to feel bad about that too cause my mom yelling triggered 📞 and made her anxiety#spike and she wanted to go lay down for a while and I’m just like pissed off in my room and it’s soooo fucking annoying#I think I’m gonna just finish my Mac and cheese cup and pack up my coloring book and my iPad and go drive and check the ashtrays first maybe#I need tobacco after that I feel like I was doing good I haven’t smoked tobacco in two days I think so yay but after that. I want a bowl and#I don’t have that much rn#whatever I could make it work without the ashtrays and I could just like. stop going.#I could have self control if I wanted to. hmm… we shall see.
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My dream last night had Griff in it...
#fate rambles#it wasnt a happy kind of one too#it was like weird sort of underwater-ish type place with layers and you sink or float to layers based on how much is weighing you down#and of course griff is so weighed down by his guilt and self loathing and grief that hes hitting rock bottom immediately#and someone(probably katya lmao) is trying to get down there somehow to help him
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"You are my happyness..."
I don't deserve them. I caused them so much pain. I was so selfish and in my obsession caused them so much suffering. I was disillusioned, and I selfishly hurt them, because I was a coward, because I was a monster.
I don't deserve them.
And yet, they forgave me, they love me, they care for me.
"I know the true you, I have seen the true you. You're not the monster you see, or the selfish coward you loath. You're not the lonely and scared boy in the dark, or the hopeless and sad teenager in the rain nor the broken and suffering man covered in blood."
"You're a beautiful soul, broken into pieces and still holding together trying to ammend it's mistakes, take responsibility for them. I see, the bright and curious spirit trying to learn and grow with the world around them. And I see the kind and caring lover, who will always value everything above himself."
"I see my love. You are my happiness."
I don't deserve them. I am so much trouble. Frail sickly and so much trouble.
But I am selfish... So very selfish that I want to believe that.
I want to be their happiness, and I will do everything to make ammends, to make them happy, even sacrifice myself for it.
You are my life. All of it.
#spoilers in the tags#vulnarable tol with strong smol is my life#arlo#fannar#arlo has a hard time coping with his feelings of guilt and there isn't one day he doesn't feel crushing guilt for all the pain he caused#but he loves fannar deeply#so much he'd rather sacrifice himself to make fannar happy#even live when he doesn't want to to make fannar happy#even try to be better to make fannar happy#he doesn't care about himself#just fannar#it's a work in progress#arlo is very psychologically damaged that's why he says he's so much trouble#he knows his mental state isn't the best and that keeping him functional is a lot of work#so sometimes his will to make fannar happy conflicts with his belief that he's a burden who's just weighing fannar down#and that he doesn't deserve him#it's complicated#it's#i will live to make you happy#but alive i am such a burden that i should unalive myself
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Morality OCD sucks
#abby doesnt shut up#I’m constantly second guessing what I put on my blog and how I live my life#and I’m still feeling extreme guilt and confusion about this taylor situation#I’m disappointed in her bc I know she’s capable of great activism and has a good heart#but has no prob staying silent and associating with bigots#but then I’m like there’s only so much I can do in holding her accountable even if I try#and at this point I think it’s honestly best to move forward doing the work in my own life bc it’s#counterintuitive to call her out and not look at myself#I still love her and I’m hurt can both exist?#so it’s been weighing on me and I feel like a terrible person no matter what happens lol#and I’m not worried about the optics of looking like a bad person I’m worried about hurting ppl I love#I’m worried about what silence does#does this make sense? can anyone relate?
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Started thinking about the Amanda Waller + Ben Turner relationship again.... fuck, I'm gonna need a minute
#I JUST- SHDIAUDJSHDSHEYEYRYRYRY guys. guys#i know none of you see my vision and thats okay. i will make you see my vision. i will force you to see my vision. i will-#like jesus fucking christ oh my god. its so interesting and gives me so many emotions and just!!!#i know im not making sense bc none of my moots are sui sq fans and also like half of the content fucking me up specifically here is in my#head because i cant stop thinking about my absolute power fix it au but like!!!!!!!#also the fact i have a fix it for a comic that isnt out yet is so funny to me. its literally fucking real though. god knows we need it#may my own content carry me through the dark times (extreme villain waller arc)#anyways this fucks me up so bad you dont even know. someday ill actually explain it#dc hire me to write a suicide squad ongoing PLEASE. i could do it so good it would be so fucking good dc PLEASE 😭😭😭😭😭😭#also like this isnt me shipping them btw. like 110% not that. just to clarify.#i wouldnt even call it a friendship bc like. theyre not friends really. he has the most equal dynamic with her i would say but it still isnt#equal. shes v much his boss even though they have an understanding and respect there#like she believes and trusts in him much more than anybody really even himself. like she sees the good man and the leader even when he#doesnt. but she isnt nice about it. and there is a lot of conflict between them when there needs to be#like as much as ben is “wallers man”--the team leader she wanted from the beginning before rick flagg pushed his way in#ben i would say is still a very moral person even when lost and unsure of himself and his goodness (which is like one of his main things)#like i feel like while amanda can lean very into a “the ends justify the means” mindset in her worse moments and do bad things to get#herself out of a corner ben has like a deep and meaningful understanding of how the choices of your methods and how you act can weigh on you#like even though he was brainwashed and whatnot (thats still the story right? i cant remember) he holds a lot of guilt and baggage over his#actions and i think is able to temper amanda's worse tendencies in terms of that by calling her out when he recognizes that behavior#idk. i just really think that amanda waller and the suicide squad as a whole has lost its way without a more moral authority presence there.#like someone who can call her out and keep them more on track. which i really thing ben is and could be#i just very much am interested in their dynamic and how that would look like as equals and how i think they could help each other.#which ofc is what my wip is about and revolves around#blah#sui sq
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I think one of the other reasons I've been so dreading this trip is because I haven't actually been back to California since my gram died. Last time I was home was to see her in the hospital. Stepping back over the state line will make her being gone more real, somehow. And then I'll be going to a wedding where people are probably going to ask about her, while I'm also reminded in all the shortfalls of my own life. And I'll have to pretend everything is good because I don't wanna be the weird downer at a wedding. The entire situation is uh, to put it lightly, not something I'm looking forward to.
#dreading this trip#half convinced my car might break down#gram's death weighing heavy on me#oh and also last time I drove down was right at the beginning of me meeting/talking to d#so that's also gone to shit since then#gave up on my chosen career since then#granted my job now is technically better in a myriad of ways but not something I'm excited to talk about#i am half tempted to fake a covid infection to get out of going#but I know the guilt from not going would eat at me too#so fingers crossed my car doesn't break down#I'm gonna have to get wizard high for this wedding#which thankfully probably won't be hugely out of place at a Humboldt wedding#wish I had someone to talk to about this shit#all the feelings bubbling up when I should be sleeping to get up stupid early in the morning and drive all day#i wish I could cry in someone's lap for a while#but of course if I had someone I wouldn't be dreading this as much so catch-22 there
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I really have tried - and mostly succeeded - to enjoy the things I like without shame over the past decade that I sometimes forget how guilty I used to feel over literally everything when I was younger, including hobbies and tastes
#i was feeling this unexplained guilt while watching a turkish movie from 2004 thinking#the lead was cute#AND THEN I REMEMBERED#i also thought he was v cute in this one show from 2000s (asmali konak)#and liked the show a lot too! but at the time i/we never watched too much of it#bc i (we? as a family?) were convinced it was beneath me#this is so funny#it really is not that deep lol#but also i need the turks to weigh in: IS a young özcan deniz cute?? is he as a person gross? i am so out of the loop#also why was even 10 y/o me leaning into the arabesk vibes#like this is who i am now but id have never accepted it back then
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