#and that server has since been nuked

[moash]

i find it funny when people cite my own moash theories or meta on my posts as if i’ve never heard of them or thought of that.

[svtskneecaps]

i also just want to point out the qsmp members' commitment to like never letting the inactive members die. like dantdm logged on twice and is canonically dead and everyone continues to blame mysterious happenstance on him. spreen is canonically dead and yet people are still like namedropping him even tho the house façade he built has been demolished and also probably consumed by a mountain. they meme on kameto who's barely been on except that time he was a fed spy that was iconic as hell. they just immortalize their members and they're always so happy to see old faces come back and it lowkey makes me emotional lmfaoo like missa barely logged on for a while but goddamn nobody forgot his name bc philza can't go one day without mentioning him and mariana barely logs on but every time fit saw the homeless mariana in roier's city no matter what he'd stop dead and tell it "come home" and when slime came back to the server for elections after having logged off for the last like two months everyone was still excited to meet him bc the others had kept his memories on the server fresh and alive, maxo died canonically in the nuke and pierre pasted his face all over the server, luzu vanished for months and we never forgot him either thanks to the computers and foolish's wack ass family tree. like when purgatory teams were chosen and team red constantly joked about how it would be so over for the other teams once germán logged on despite the fact that germán had only ever logged on ONCE, the way they cheered when they snatched rubius in the split of green despite the fact that rubius hadn't logged on more than twice since march. they just keep the names alive all the time and it's like

it just makes me really happy to see. like it makes me really happy. like the admin team and the members alike are like 'no way in HELL are we letting your memory go' like damn once ur on isla quesadilla you really are stuck as an islander forever :D

[mcytegg]

hold on. hold on. what are the chances spoke's plan involve shoving the server admins specifically into a corner? like looking at what he's done so far and what he claims his plans are, it can all be tied back into server owner stuff. like okay, walk w me 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

he showed mapicc a blatant hack client w the mace while he was literally live and he never ended up being called on it largely bc it was such a shameless, blatant thing to do & mapicc wasn't Certain if it was hack so yk. w that information plus mapicc hiding the dupe glitches and time travel w the bug bombs from minute early season, spoke knows mapicc Can be lenient w others exploiting even if he himself refuses to do it as an admin. but!!! he wasn't nearly as lenient w sb, smt spoke had an issue w

i think the sb thing also ties into his plans on banning the owners bc it was during the same convo where spoke expresses dissatisfaction w how the sb mace situation was dealt w since the duped maces were exploited "legitimately" and therefore shouldn't have been an issue is when he brings up banning the owners. assuming that they plan on banning all three admins using exploits, it forces them into an incredibly tight corner where they're unable to play the server due to exploits and although they've Been stricter w exploits, using admin powers to unban themselves from an exploit permaban situation could definitely be recieved poorly by both the community and even other ccs since its def smt that could be used to accuse them of admin abusing. smt spoke already accuses them of doing and clearly Wants to weaponize against them if u take what he said to squiddo & ash during his meeting w them at face value

AND. speaking of forcing the admins into a difficult place, even him actively asking fans to fake stream snipe in other peoples chats and to post fake spoilers w typoed // lifesteal spoilers tag on twt is smt that the admins need to clean up— as evidenced by minute tweeting abt it TODAY after spoke told people to do it and tweets made at his demand gained traction, to the point that there was also an announcement in the official ls public discord server abt tagging spoilers & streamsniping. he's doing things even outside of the server that force mapicc, minute, and bacon to clean up his messes

even spoke's whole orbital strike cannon thing Can be connected to this silly theory bc although it's a legitimate plan w no exploits or hacks involved, it still forces all three of the server admins out of the role they have rooted themself in. the constant "accidental" mention of exploits and the poking and prodding at minute's heart pushed him back into a similar hero role he played in s5. while Also pushing him away from mapicc, who deeply values loyalty and aligns strongly w similar morals to spoke's, who is now being put in between multiple teammates he loves who have become enemies which has caused him to uproot his entire existence to try and reach for the freedom he hasn't had in all of s6 bc of his desire to hold on tight to the teammates he Does have who ended up lowk abandoning him anyways. and even bacon is forced to change bc he was the guy previously terrorizing spawn, but w the threat of it being nuked to bedrock it makes all of his plans null

like idk bro maybe i'm js Saying a whole lotta words and grasping at straws to see smt that isn't actually there since spoke has barely even said or done anything and i'm basing this all on things he has said or hinted at that is very likely 110% lies but i do think it'd be interesting if his main plan rly does have smt to do w forcing mapicc, minute, and bacon into difficult situations AS the server admins o_o

[kadextra]

Genuinely curious as someone who hasn't fully been keeping up with qsmp, how do we know qbad's gonna die?

We’ve been expecting it to happen for around 6 months :’) here’s a recap of it all for you

From the first week of September q!Bad has been suffering with a soul infection. back when all the egg kids went missing, he was grieving and lost the will to live. he let himself wither away, getting attacked repeatedly by monsters called “soul vultures” which tore pieces out of his soul. it gave him symptoms like colorblindness, hallucinations, and turned his eye blue

skip forward to the end of purgatory when the nuke exploded. he shielded Dapper with his body, and was the only person who got hit directly by the blast and lived (rip q!Maxo)

but the soul infection absorbed the radiation and accelerated. especially the nasty head wound hidden under his hood- look at his skin and you could see it start growing

it affected his mind- since early December he’s had lapses of memory where he forgot people, places, and his own kids over and over.

but now this long and tragic slowburn is finally reaching the climax. the past two weeks since the island reset, he’s been coughing more, forgetting more, getting weaker. his kids Pomme and Dapper made him medicine which he’s been taking to keep going just a little longer. the infection has gotten 10x worse and is consuming him completely, as you can see below

the eggs are all in despair

but his body just can’t fight this illness anymore <\3 he admitted as much to Richarlyson in last night’s stream, after their deep discussion about death with Dapper and Empanada.

This is it, he’s dying tonight or tomorrow.

q!Bad has implied multiple times that because he’s a high-rank demon creature, when he dies it won’t be a permanent thing. it’ll be something like a factory reset- which is just as painful tbh because it’ll be the death of who he once was. he’ll be wiped blank. but there is a chance he can recover, it’ll just take a lot of time. so he’s not leaving the server, it’s gonna start a new chapter of lore for this character

That’s where we’re at now :’D

[huffelpuff210]

Connection part one

You didn’t know exactly how everything had ended up this way after the split of the avengers everything seemed to go south from there you didn’t exactly call yourself an avenger you were a hacker an exceptionally good one. But after the beef that happened between Steve and Tony everything went south you were considered a threat to the government and Tony agreed since you aided Steve’s escape. So you were contained treated worse than a dog. Not getting fed regularly interrogations that led to beating the shit out of you sometimes.

But you were able to bide your time and finally make your escape you were especially good at hiding keeping a low profile you grew up on the streets until you hacked into the wrong server and caught the attention of Tony Stark that’s was how you became one of them you wanted to go with Steve but he told you it would be better for you to stay where you would be safe, you were only a teenager at the time so you could understand where he was coming from but if he knew the sort of hell you were put though.

You sighed as you opened the door to the rundown house this was one of your safe houses no one knew about except Natasha, this was your families vacation home that was until they were killed when you were only five now it has been marked as condemned but on the inside it was still livable the condemned sign was just a cover.

You were not really sure how you made it this far on foot but you finally made it. You were badly bruised, you were barely able to stand too weak and tired you knew no one would know where to find you so you were safe for the time being how long was unknown to you just depends on how fast they find this place.

Steve,Bucky,Natasha Wanda, vision and Sam were in hiding in a crappy apartment building laying low they have been on the run for five years and still keeping a low profile, they were all just relaxing while one of them stays on lookout.

“Breaking new Y/N L/N broke out of a maximum security containment facility, she is extremely dangerous” the news woman reports

“Turn that up.” Steve says clearly shaken from the news

“I thought you said she would be safe?!” Natasha yelled it hurt her deeply leaving you behind you were like the daughter she would never have.

“I thought she was..” Steve says clearly shaken

“If you have any information about her Whereabouts call…”

“We need to find her.” Wanda says

“At least before they do.” Vision says

“Let’s not jump the gun here, let’s try to think how she is.” Steve says he was feeling guilty he left you behind to protect you, learning you were in prison all this time pained him deeply.

“Where would she go if she’s being hunted.” He asks

Natasha knew the answer but would you want to see any of them you spent five years in prison and they practically abandoned you. Five years is a long enough time to change. But they had to try.

You cursed at yourself for being so short thankfully your parents were paranoid people sure you don’t remember much about them but they were convinced the world was going to get nuked and they were prepared for it. This house works off of solar panels the water and everything even the heat and air it was amazing,you were trying to screw a new light bulb in the bathroom the light turns on.

“About time.” You mumbled you take a good look in the mirror. You looked like a ghost of your former self your face was covered in bruises and cuts dried blood, dark circles under your jade eyes, your skin was pale.

Of course this didn’t surprise you, the place you were held barely fed you let alone cared about your health,

You sighed turning on the shower, feeling the hot water hit your skin it felt so refreshing

you just hopped this is the start of a new beginning.

[randomchips]

Anyways, time for my personal alternate ending:

In my head, Las Nevadas Quackity woke up and after hearing Charlie's goodbyes and going back to his casino, he suddenly is surprised by his one and only customer... Jack Manifold, that's right- Jack had been playing on the same machine, on and off, for days on end. After a quick inquiry on how long had Jack been there, he's astonished to find out that's it's been months!

They talk and the conversation, one way or another, lands on Tommy, who had recently contacted Jack about his whereabouts. This sparks a lot of interest in Q, it hadn't occurred to him to visit his younger friend...

He roams around looking for his now grown up buddy, when he sees a familiar face. It was Foolish? He looked much less put together than usual. However, when approached, FG greeted him with the same enthusiasm as always. Foolish kept mentioning a horrible and terrible incident that he had to stop recently, something about the server almost being blown up, nuked or torn up, who knows? Quackity was a bit taken a back by how much joy he felt from just those mundane conversations, it's been a while since he's indulged in small talk or catching up with others...

After exchanging pleasantries, Q finally asks Foolish for any directions to Tommyinnit. At this FG stiffens a bit but then points towards the old Prime road, it looked decrepit to say the least. Moreover, Foolish says that recently Tommy has returned to his humble home and hasn't gone out ever since. This saddens Q and he quickly makes his way to Tommy's.

Tommy looked very different from his older self, but to Q he was the same old Tomas, who he'd met on his first day on the server. They're both more than happy to have met this day, but Tommy reveals that he's planning on leaving the place very soon, he's hesitant to let go of the past since the server is all he knows now... After thinking it through Quackity decides to join Tommy for this journey.

If just for a bit longer, he wants to keep that little hope that maybe, just maybe his legacy still waits for it to be fulfilled

[rozugold]

Ok ramble time

Ok imagine you’re Tubbo. You just got your distant brother figure and your bestie off that damn mountain, though not in the most ideal way (I will make those comics eventuallyyy)

But that’s beside the point. You saved your best friend! You did something right for once! Except sike! your best friend hates you now, and you kind of hate him too (you let him know as much) then you guys stop talking. Which is fine, i mean, it’s not like he was your entire world.

You return to Snowchester! It’s a ghost town, obviously. There’s a memorial of you, decorated with fresh flowers and dusty knick knacks. The flowers are from Ranboo, he’s pretty sweet. He’s also been the one to upkeep your town while you were gone. You hang out with them a lot, they’re the only one who sticks around these days. They’re pretty sweet.

You try to go back to doing the things you did before you died. There’s those nukes you never finished making, so you work on them. And you work on them. And you work on them. And you get nothing done. Your brain feels scattered and far away, it’s impossible to focus. So you give it a break, you can afford to. It’s pretty safe these days with Dream gone, you know because you keep tabs on everyone on the server. There’s some strange things going on here and there but nothing too concerning. You hang out with Ranboo more.

Ah fuck, you two find a baby. It’s a piglin, infected but not fully zombified as it has enough thought to run up to you two for help. So you take it back to snowchester and give it potions to stop the infection. Ranboo is worried it won’t work, you tell him it probably won’t. But you reassure him that if it doesn’t, you’ll take it back to the nether to let it “live” out the rest of it’s days. (Do zombies live?) Ranboo spends the night in your attic with the piglin. He’s pretty sweet. Regardless you tell him to not keep his hopes up too high.

Next morning, it worked! You “dub thee Michael!” Ranboo is relieved. There’s a kid living in your house now.

There’s a kid living in his house now. The timeline becomes unclear at this point since I’m still figuring it out. But now that Michael is in the picture Tubbo starts getting worried. He realizes he has no way of protecting him. Maybe the syndicate come visit Snowchester and that shocks him into thinking about the nukes again. And so Tubbo starts throwing himself into projects again. And it starts getting ✨bad ✨

Honestly, It’s been really fun figuring out how Tubbo deteriorates because everything is so internal with him compared to Tommy. It’s obvious with Tommy, you could see him visibly fall apart (think his exile skins, he stops feeding himself, he doesn’t care when he takes damage) But with Tubbo it isn’t so obvious, atleast not right away. Sure his eye bags get darker and he stares off into space for a little too long. But he still looks put together. (Habitable maybe. Or a learned skill.)

Maybe he eventually gets the nukes working but they’re not as successful as he wanted them to be and that guts him. He takes it as another failure. What if he’s just cursed? Is everything he cares about forever doomed to feel like holding water in his hands? What is wrong with him?

I’m gonna share a song and explain this next part using its lyrics because I’m so ILL over it, it’s the most di!tubbo song ever. Throw on …Well, better than the alternative by Will Wood 👍

Tubbo’s feelings towards Michael is complicated… He absolutely loves him to death but he’s really apprehensive about being a dad. He has this fear that he’s going to somehow corrupt Michael and or fail to keep him safe. So he ends up becoming emotionally distant from him and at his worst he gives him up completely to Ranboo.

I think Ranboo and Tubbo get married as a joke at first. But Ranboo continues to love him so unconditionally and honestly and Tubbo catches a crush, which is absolute HELL for him at first sjdhdj. I imagine him being arospec so this crush is a completely new and surprising feeling and he doesn’t know how to handle it. So he doesn’t, and keeps playing it as a joke even as their relationship develops.

Also the repeat of “everybody’s up on everybody’s business” is very fitting for describing the server. There’s things to be developed here I just haven’t yet… I’m just thinking about the possibilities like the egg, the syndicate, las nevadas… hmmm

This song is begging to be made into an animatic because I can imagine Tubbo screaming at Tommy during this part. He was just trying to help the best way he could… yet things still end badly, and everyone ends up hurt… di!clingy oh di!clingy, they’re such a mess. A bitter, angry, grieving mess. Wait ok i wasn’t planning on writing grieving there but then my next thought was “who are they grieving?” EACH OTHER. THEY’RE GRIEVING EACH OTHER. o(-(

Ok that’s it. Phew that was a lot of writing. Here’s some drawings for your time

[supernovaa-remnant]

Since we're talking about c!dream and him being an admin and the resets, I wanna share a theory/headcanon that I've had for years now

Basically, what if the server only resets when c!dream dies permanently, like loses his final life for good? Since he's the admin and stuff, it would make sense that him being dead or alive determins the resets, the Server needs it's admin.

And like, in theory, c!staged duo are each others finals lives, no matter how many times they die, as long as one revives the other, which they always will if they can. That also fits in with the reset happening right when the nuke killed both them and not when c!cling killed only dream, since punz, his last life, was still alive then.

I haven't still been able to figure out one proper way XD would fit into this because I have too many theories/ideas, but maybe he's a piece of dream and the server that came to exist after some time of the resets happening because the memories and experiences needed to go somewhere, but there was so many of them and a lot were being completely forgotten but nothing can be Completely forgotten.

Oooh that is an interesting theory/headcanon. It’s certainly a fun idea to play around with.

Something that stands out to me is your idea of punz counting as dream’s final life which brings a lot of questions to my mind (which is good! questions are fun to ponder!), namely how would the server make that distinction? Is it just as long as anyone is alive who can use the revivebook? Is it a trust based thing? But trust feels almost too human for the server… how does the server know what punz will bring dream back? Sure punz has the ability, but why would the server have reason to believe that punz will continue to do that? How long could punz go without reviving dream before the server decides that punz just won’t do it and resets?

Idk maybe I just like the pondering, but I think those questions are fun to think about. If the server resets on dream’s final death, but the requirements for his death to be considered “final” or “permanent” are less clear cut, then what does that mean for the resets?

Your idea about XD is also super interesting because you’re right! The human mind really only can hold so many memories (I presume), so the idea that XD would break off because of that is fascinating.

In terms of this being a theory, I think that the nuke finale disproves it. As in, we know that the flash of white light at the end wasn’t the nukes but rather the reset, and we know that the nukes didn’t actually kill anyone (or we can at least presume), which means that dream was alive when the server reset.

In terms of more like au/headcanon material, though, it’s definitely fun to play around with. There’s so much about the server resets that we don’t know (and likely won’t know). There’s also so much we don’t know about c!dream’s relationship to XD and the server.

Anyway, all this to say it’s a fun idea, and I hope you have fun thinking about it :)

[akinari-kashihara]

Meh, some quick Mastodon talk since I hate it less than I used to.

Don't get me wrong tho - Mastodon's biggest issue (apart from getting started) is that many servers are run with the mentality of a 2000s web forum and you may fear the moderators. Luckily, you're on Tumblr where Matty Boy will already nuke you for being trans or whatever.

Let's talk servers;

Mastodon.Social - Don't fucking use mastodon.social. You're gonna be thrown in with every chatGPT using linux snob that is so fucking insufferable. Good luck posting on this fucking thing without someone telling you to simply build your own operating system to fix your marriage issues.

Indiepocalypse.Social - Aimed at creatives, but may feel more tailored to those working on original content than fandom stuff. It's definitely a good creative space and feels like a strong member of the wider mastodon community; this is a pro and a con. You're more likely to feel in the know, but you'll also know all the recent drama with every tech branch of mastodon.

Blorbo.Social - 🌟Blorbo is my number one mastodon instance. It was the first instance I joined that didn't make me fucking hate using mastodon. It feels a lot more isolated from the wider community of mastodon, but allows you to focus more on your fandom stuff and connect with others in fandom spaces. Currently very eng speaker heavy.

Goblin.Band - An attempt at a tumblr-like using misskey (don't worry about this if you don't know what it is) as its base. You're able to customise the look of the site to be more similar to tumblr and things have been changed to be more familiar to the incoming tumblr user. It also uses Tumblr's RSS feeds to mirror tumblr posts so you can try to keep up with people on tumblr. However, the RSS thing is patchy. Goblin is a bit weird community wise - it hasn't really formed a strong fandom community nor fallen in with the wider mastodon community. The local feed is kind of just like if you saw what every tumblr blog was posting.

Aethy - Aethy gets disconnected from the lot of mastodon instances because it has l*lish* content. There is, however, a lot of Aethy users, and they're heavily recommended because of their lax ruling and the fact if your friend is on aethy, you may struggle to connect with them if you're on a different instance.

Baraag - Don't use baraag, there's a huge alt right community on there and similar ilk. They are a similar "will come up a lot when you're looking around" but I do not recommend.

These are just some of the instances I've tried, obviously everyone recommends shopping around and finding what works best for you but that's hard. I'd watch out for anything that mentions having to abide by USA law purely because those laws are currently subject to change at the drop of a hat and I wouldn't risk it. What's legal today may be illegal tomorrow. Better to be somewhere steady.

[charles-simmons]

So, here's some of my c!disc duo conclusions, since I've been seeing people talk about it. I have a lot of fun reading people's opinions about this, so, please, feel encouraged to add yours too and/or disagree with me

c!Dream:

-What he did to Tommy was abuse and he did do terrible things in general

-No, he is not an evil mastermind or a psychopath. He's just an asshole, like a lot of people in that server. He did not have half of the control people like to think he did. And I don't think he could even be considered a villain, especially because the dsmp is not black and white, there are multiple sides to everything.

-Prison arc was completely inhumane. He was tortured, desperate for human interaction, and suffering a lot. Nothing justifies the treatment he got.

-The pain he went through during prison does not redeem him.

-His character does not revolve around Tommy, even if they're a huge part of each other's story

c!Tommy:

-He's not completely innocent. He did do terrible things. <- even if it's easier to forgive him because of his age and because of the people around him and the context he was in. I personally think his side is understandable, but it's important to at least acknowledge he did do bad things, regardless of the possible motives

-He knew about Dream being tortured in prison, and not only he didn't do anything about it, but supported the idea <- he was abused by Dream and it's not a surprise he'd act like that. But again, it doesn't change the fact he did y'know. Let's not pretend he didn't do things

-He was a child and not to blame. <- Some people might disagree, but even if he was the one to get himself in trouble a lot of times, I genuinely don't see how you could blame a teenager. Sure, he started a lot of the fights, he caused a lot of problems, he did a lot of bad stuff to a lot of people. And of course there would be consequences to his actions, but I genuinely can't see how someone can say he deserved what he went through. That kid needed supervision, I genuinely believe it's not his fault.

-Just like Dream, he is a very flawed person. Many of his decisions are reckless, selfish, and even just straight up cruel sometimes. He was not an angel, and there were times he was in the wrong. Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve compassion (again, just like Dream).

-When he said sorry to Dream at the finale, it didn't mean he was forgiving him. Tommy was apologizing for the nuke (aka. for killing them) because he had just seen that maybe there was a chance Dream could get better. He apologized bc he was killing a human, someone that had potential of becoming a better person.  

-You can't "make Tommy the victim". He is a victim.

In general:

-They're complex characters, they're not just black and white (it's easier to simplify them into a angel kid that did nothing wrong and a emotionless psycopath that's obssessed with them, but that takes away their whole complexity and it's just not true)

-Quoting tumblr user milktearosethorn (who I have never interacted with in my life but has a opinion I agree with) "They're two soldier on opposite sides, forced to fight when they were both too young. And if it weren't for that, they could've been friends, in a kinder world. That's why the finale is so good" <- I love this bc it's true and I agree.

[pizzainator]

I watched Jacks stream oh my gosh...

I thought I could handle a Dsmp stream in 2024 but nope. just- that felt SO much like just a stream that would happen in like 2021. the wandering around falling into random creeper holes, chat telling jack to get philza to help him, and to find michael, the mobs interrupting and how unplanned it all was. unscripted lore my beloved forever and ever.

the way that it's like in tommy and jacks conversation- they're talking about things in character that also relates to (presumably) their feelings in real life. just gosh...

when jack and tommy said their goodbyes and jack looked back at technos house to see the sun rising- like its so perfect in a way that the incidental roleplay always was. Like in the way I know I'm reading into it but it still works and it feels like real life when something happens and you find yourself in that moment and life looks almost like a movie- everything in it's proper place for the scene- but it's all just coincidence. the sun didn't rise because a writer wrote that it would. the sun just rises and falls and the conversation just happens to end at that exact moment.

idk just- I really felt it. It captured the feeling of peak dreamsmp that I've missed so much.

I don't even have a problem with nuke ending personally I think it's perfectly fine as an ending. How I've always seen it is: Everyones been hurt by everyone and violence begets violence so the great final act is nukes that will kill everyone that have all ready been launched so it can't be taken back. Then in the prison tommy sees the early parts of the server through Dreams pov and sees the good that was there at the start and how much that has been corrupted since and he wants that simplicity again (he and dream were even friends at one point) before everything went terrible for everyone. Dream turns his back on his plan that he's been building up to for so long cause what he really wants is the same thing as tommy. for things to be simple like at the start. but it's too late- its too far gone. the nukes have already been launched there's no going back. just the hope that maybe in another world things could've been different.

(also the added context of nuke ending being an elaborate character/relationship/map reset to setup a season 2 that never happened.)

So there's my nuke ending defense lol. I know it wasn't very popular with a vast amount of people and that's okay too.

I think ending something like dsmp was never gonna be easy or satisfy everybody, with how many individual povs there are and storylines. I always expected there to be things left unfinished. (unfinished symphony ;) Even if that's pretty unsatisfying for us viewers. (there's a particular stream I really wish had happened with foolish, dream, and eret)

idk there's a post I always remember when thinking about the ending that was like: "Maybe they couldn't write a happier ending at that time in their lives." (super paraphrasing) obviously talking about techno's passing. it's a bit assumptive but the CC's have talked publicly about how much that has affected them (of course it did). With something like that I imagine giving your minecraft server/roleplay character a happy ending is the last thing on your mind.

Todays stream felt like grief and nostalgia and complicated feelings for a time that has passed but still left it's marks on you:

“are you happier?” “I'm getting there”

like, that just says it all.

[mcytegg]

smt else i find...funny. is i actually don't know if chief OR jepexx would even be on minute's side if they heard spoke's pitch either bc the "nuke spawn to bedrock, have an unforgettable impact on the world" sounds right up their alley. if it were up to them alone, i think they'd choose spoke's side but i don't know if spoke even cares abt having them.

like tbh i feel like the person who matters most to spoke, above all else, is mapicc. mapicc is his tether to this server and has arguably Been spoke's most important person since s4 happened (whatever that means w spoke specifically)

[thatfriendlyanon]

THERE'S SEASONS OF THE DEEP GREEN?! /delighted

this might be a super basic question so let me know if you'd like something more specific, but could you like, outline the seasons for me? like, 1 or 2 sentences of pitch or summary each, kind of thing? I'd love to have the Shape of the story in my head so that the details can slot into it >:D

THERE ARE THERE ARE this is what happens when you've had this server since december 2021, lore has had time to accrue sdlkjsdg

in surprise to Nobody At All i've got a little playlist for each season, with songs in chronological order hitting the main lore events & emotional beats of the story (& trying to touch on all three characters' povs), so i'll link each of those too

SEASON 1 (playlist)

Season 1 begins with the founding of the Deep Green, when Icarus & Grond explored the cave system near spawn and did their zoning. Season 1's themes involve community, establishing relational ties, politics, & power dynamics, since it's when most members were joining, building friendships, and maybe partaking in a little bit of political treachery & blackmailing. 0:) The closing event of Season 1 was Sisyphus's trial and execution, following their accidental use of the "/clear all entities" command which resulted in the murder of every living thing. Literally nothing has been the same ever since that mistake.

SEASON 2 (playlist)

Season 2 covers Sisyphus's "atonement arc" (aka them gathering resources & animals for each player as an attempt at making amends for the murders) until their departure. Themes for Season 2 include magic (belief vs unbelief), trust vs distrust, and fraying relationships/unraveling ties. This is the season that the cavern began; Sisyphus began secretly growing skulk in a cavern under their house, Icarus began grasping for more stability & control over her friends, Sisyphus & Icarus's friendship started fraying, Kore found a camel, and the skulk situation kept escalating until Kore & Icarus staged an intervention because they were convinced their entire home was in danger. In response, Sisyphus decided to leave the Deep Green for an undetermined amount of time.

SEASON 3 (playlist)

Season 3 takes place during Sisyphus's absence. cc!Crim (the human being) spent these months working on a Secret Build somewhere else on the server, while Kore & Icarus were left alone on the Deep Green. Season 3 covers themes of reaching out to others vs isolation, absence & grief, fear vs paranoia vs support, and action/preparation/defense. Korus (<- Kore+Icarus's duo name) continued letter correspondence with Thalia* in hopes of finding more answers about the skulk/Wardens; they burned down the skulk in the cavern; they strengthened their friendship together once Icarus stopped grieving Sisyphus's departure alone in her house for like 3 months straight (<- the canonical explanation for cc!Elle taking a break from minecraft last spring XD); Icarus's paranoia continued to spiral/grow; and possibly most importantly, Korus made direct contact with the Magic. The Magic as a whole will take too much time to explain in a pitch like this, but Season 3's closing event was the "encounter" with the Magic when it directly responded to Korus's attempt at communication.

*Thalia is Crim's oc from the dream smp that they made, like, five years ago. XD through a series of events we canonized Thalia (& c!Elle & Bluebell, mine & rozu's dsmp ocs) in the Deep Green universe; Thalia & the other l'sonas live far away from the Deep Green post-dsmp-nuke-ending and Thalia writes letters to Sisyphus/the other residents sometimes. It's delightful and silly and I love it very much

SEASON 4 (playlist)

Aand this is where we're at now, babey!! We never know how long a season is going to be until some big event takes place and we all look at each other & look at the themes and go "hey guys. I think a season just ended and another one's begun." XD So I don't know the themes of Season 4 yet, but I might posit "forgiveness & grace" being one of them. The large events so far have been Korus following the Magic's direction beyond the Deep Green's walls in search of the source of the skulk (that's been continuing to spread in the Deep Green). They found Sisyphus, had multiple confrontations, went through Sisyphus's creepy memory-room labyrinth (<- the very epic build cc!Crim had been working on), got Sisyphus's painful backstory, and eventually reached the point where Sisyphus has returned, remorseful, to the Deep Green. Unfortunately during that process Icarus's and Kore's friendship has fallen apart yet again, so we've got the running joke that Icarus is apparently only capable of being friends with one (1) of her friends at any given time. XD So they're all still in the messy middle of things, but Caruphys (<- Icarus+Sisyphus's duo name) at least is slowly on the mend. We'll see where things will go from here. >:'D

ask me anything about the deep green! 💚

[simplepotatofarmer]

I recently saw re-blog about the Omela joke, and what makes it particularly layered, and honestly really funny is the fact that part of the story is the fact that the narrator introduced to child because of the fact the readers will most likely expect there to be a dangerous price to a utopia. It’s kept ambiguous if the child is actually real or if it’s just something that the narrator created because the audience expected it.

Honestly, it’s really does also add to the small problem when it comes to fanfiction believing at the biggest solution is to kill one of the Discduo to end the conflict since one can make the argument that they’re just a part of a bigger problem with the server. Like even if one of them is dead, how does it fix every problem in the server? I mean, Tommy being an exiled doesn’t fix everything, especially since there were still conflict like the butcher army. Same thing when Dream was in the prison now it’s just the egg and later on Wilbur.

I will admit it’s a bit bit of a a ramble mess based on a realization based on a joke, but I just really think that that comparison to those who walk away from Omela is such a perfect way to explain everything about the conflict and why that type of thinking doesn’t work for a long-term

yeah, that's exactly it!

c!dream believes that c!tommy is root cause of the problems on the server. and honestly? he had reason to believe that. the disc conflicts were almost all initiated by tommy (after tommy had traded the discs to dream fairly) for example. dream is solution orientated to fault. he wants to fix things and this desire gets warped into needing to control everything. but despite dream's reasons and there being some truth to it, solving the 'tommy problem' was never going to fix everything. and dream does know this because his other priorities lie with.... everything else regarding the revive book and dreamXD and the resets.

the reverse can be said about c!tommy, too. c!dream has become the symbol of all his problems because dream has genuinely caused him great distress and harm! a lot of tommy's problems do, in fact, stem from his relationship with dream. but just as many of them stem from his toxic relationship with c!wilbur, if not more of them. because dream has always been a bit of a blunt tool wearing tommy down while wilbur was much more subtle about his control and abuse. and tommy does have moments when he clearly realizes this! he does understand it's not just dream but dream is a sort of... less complicated boogeyman to point at.

neither of their problems will be solved by the other dying.

and honestly? neither would the server's problems. there's things outside of the two of them that would cause strife and unrest. not just the egg or wilbur but things like the cookie outpost and las nevadas and unethical slime cloning and people having nukes.

but i do think the server always kinda depended on the two of them being okay. tommy included here but dream especially. nothing can be right or fixed unless dream has a chance to grow and change and that honestly hinges on tommy doing the same and the finale shows that. they were so close.

(and obviously that doesn't mean either one has to forgive the other, like i'm heading this off at the pass but it does mean learning to let go and move on and be okay and at peace with yourself.)

[cleofast300]

Not to interfere with the convo but the idea of c!Tommy being their protest after nuke is very interesting to me. I remember c!dream brought up the idea of c!tommy joining them a few times in the stream but I'm not sure if he was being sarcastic or not. Same in prison arc when he said being immortal together- but likely just a way to scare c!Tommy. Anyway, I could be misinterpreting the Finale but didn't c!Tommy want c!Dream to change his mind about his plans while c!Punz wanted the plan to stay in place like c!Dream was getting pulled different ends that may create conflict.

As for exile. It was always my belief that if c!discduo was more equal as in both participants not just c!tommy expressed genuine vulnerability then there was a chance for them to form a genuine bond. Like if c!dream had a vulnerable moment. Not sure if I make sense

You're welcome to interfere any time you want anon, I love hearing people's thoughts! Yes! the idea of c!Tommy becoming their protege after the nuke is so interesting and I really like it. Specially bc it can be both super silly and have angst.

In my opinion, he was being pretty sarcastic on the first times he asked that. Like here for example, It really seems like he's laughting at c!Tommy more than a serious proposal. I think the time he was genuine was when he asked in this moment, here I do think he's really wondering if c!Tommy is on his side. And yeah the prison one most probably was to scare him or intimidate him.

About the finale, you're not wrong. c!Punz got into the conversation mostly to add to c!dream's defense of their plan. And after c!tommy gets killed and bring back he only interrumps here and the "im his friend" comment. He makes clear he's still on board with the plan, but doesnt try too hard to fight agaist c!tommy when he's starting to make c!dream consider his words about finding another way.

I do agree with this creating conflict bewteen them. c!Punz is still on board with the plan and would be reluctant to work with c!Tommy to fix things. I dont think he'd intentionally push or force c!Dream to continue with the plan nor abandond him if he doesnt choose it, but it'll probably make things tense.

Also considering what the plan was. For the bits c!dream has said and the finale, it seems in general was find a way to unite the server. When they trap c!clingyduo, they said their plan was to basically reset it to balance the server. But we can never be sure if that's the full true or not. They told it to c!clingy in a context when both were clearly acting with their cover of villians, and bc it seems like a last minute plan it to just balance the server in the moment.

Since before they werent acting with the objetive of killing and resetting the server. c!Dream a few times through the lore has say he wants to unite the server like a big family. Which it's not the same to not want to be alone and wanting it to be simple again of the finale, but they dont contradict each other. And c!Punz did knew about that goal and agreed with him on it. They also say their plan it's to know everything, that what they want it's knowledge. Because of this all, I theorise, the plan that they've been following could be a combination of both finding a way to unite the server + getting knowledge with the book and their experiments.

So I dont think the conflict would be so much bc of trying to fix things, bc uniting the server was a part of the plan from way before. I dont think c!Punz is really interested in this part but would still agree and follow bc it wouldnt change the plan. What would change it would be 1. Stopping the revival book experiments 2. Leaving their methods for c!Tommy's. Therefore I personally feel this would cause the most conflicts + the still complicated relationship bewteen c!discduo.

I totally can see conflicts starting bc of all of this. Specially bewteen c!Punz and c!Tommy with both trying to make c!Dream side with them in the discussion. Or c!Dream and c!Tommy arguing and maybe triggering the other or acting like a bit of asshole.

About exile, I undertand what you're saying. I do think a more vulnerable moment from c!Dream in some point could helped in them forming a bond there. But I dont think that's the only reason on why that didnt happen.

Taking c!Techno's interfece aside, c!Dream being cruel to c!Tommy, making him feel insolated and sabotaging his party very probably played a role. In the trident scene after the ruined party, they did have a bonding moment and that's bc c!Dream was nice. I think c!Dream being so directly mean was a big reason. Like c!Dream clearly didnt want to go that far, but he didnt understand how bad c!Tommy was. And this actions of him were just speedrunning things.

I personally believe that if, like you said, they both were honest with each for real, if c!Dream didnt let his bitterness take over him and didnt sabotaged his party and c!Techno interfere in a different way maybe they would be able to make a genuine bond there.

Tho if you have more thoughts or want to correct me or add something more about this be free to send them. I'd love to read them :D I hope this kinda makes sense

[dowhatteverer]

About The Anon Server

I would like to apologize for all of the changes that made everyone uncomfortable. I do not want to shift blame onto the new admins or anything, this was my fault.

I admitted two people who haven't been in the server for very long, one of whom hasn't even read the comic the server is for, into the administration of the void because I was shirking my responsibilities. I was stressed at being the only moderator who was awake at a certain time in a relatively large server by now, but it wasn't a problem until they came along because I had certain chats muted, which is part of the shirking of responsibilities because I assumed that somebody else would mod them for me. I had them muted because I wasn't interested in the topics, and in the case of the vent chat, I found the talking to be very triggering and uncomfortable for me so I didn't want to deal with it. That was me being lazy, I own that now. Because as a moderator it was still my job to oversee chats that had issues in them in order to protect the people in the server.

When the new people came to me about the stuff that I hadn't seen because the chats were muted, I panicked. I wanted help but I forgot that Egg and Dizzy live in different areas with a completely different time zone and when I pinged them to ask them what they thought, they couldn't answer because they were asleep. So I made Showfall and Nuke admins anyway.

I want to say now that I don't think that Showfall and Nuke did anything wrong, they just didn't get along with people in the server very well. I know everybody's really upset at them because they've gotten into some spats with people, and I've seen some people say that they were rude. I think they were just overprotective of their boundaries and as people with serious mental illnesses and trauma they are allowed to do that. It was my fault for putting people who didn't fit with the server's vibes in charge of the server and for placing them in positions of authority over a group of people who felt uncomfortable around them. And frankly I think I lost the plot of the server. I shouldn't have let people in who hadn't even read the comic or weren't interested in it in the first place.

I want to sincerely apologize to Egg and Dizzy for not waiting for their input before making a bunch of changes. Especially since Egg is the owner of the server. I was impatient and I allowed my emotions to get the best of me and in doing so I ended up undermining both of their authority and being extremely disrespectful. I am so sorry.

As for everyone else who decided to leave. I am sincerely sorry that the server has become different than how it was and I'm also sorry that it feels like you can't be a part of it anymore.

What I want everyone to take away from this is that I don't want this community to fall apart because of my mistakes. I was a bad moderator and when facing the consequences of not doing my job to the fullest, I crumbled and created a worse situation. This is not the fault of the new admins, they were doing everything I gave them permission to do. I thought the server would be better if it were structured more like a normal server, but I've gotten the feedback that people liked it better when it was messy and just a bunch of friends hanging out. And I'm very sorry for the changes made.

I am a bit busy today, but I'm going to try and fix this situation the best I can in the time I have. If you're still in the server, I'm planning on hosting something in the suggestions chat where everyone can suggest changes to the changes and rules that benefit everyone, And hopefully when we get this sorted out, some people who had to leave might come back. But you don't have to, because I just want everyone to be happy and feel like they can be a community again.