#and oh it doesn't have to be romantic. and then they get confused by loveless aros and they go
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normalize being a little bit in love with your friends
normalize being not at all in love with anything
normalize love being confusing and weird as hell
normalize love not being romantic
normalize love not being
normalize not loving
normalize loving in the wrong way
just. normalize being unapologetically yourself
#sleepyposting#i 100% should not be awake right now#i'm a little bit in love with a lot of things and people#aromantic#actually aromantic#lovequeer aro#loveless aro#this post is loveless aro inclusive#cuz it's awesome#it's like being around people who say they don't do bad things bc god says not to and rhen not understanding why an athiest doesn't do them#and by it i mean: being around people who think love is necessary to be good or a person or whatever#and oh it doesn't have to be romantic. and then they get confused by loveless aros and they go#like oh you actually do feel love you just don't call it that. oh you actually do believe in god you just don't call him that#like no actualy#god and love are unnecessary for goodness and personnenes and uh. *draws a big line around everythung* that#OKAY GOGOD NIGBT NOW <3#i primise#probanly
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Loveless
I'm late on this because the book was published in 2020, but I only heard about it in the last month when I was reading an article about asexuality in fiction but in case anyone is out of the loop like me let me tell you about this glory
Loveless is a YA novel by Alice Oseman, author of Heartstopper and Solitaire. It tells the story of Georgia Warr, freshman at Durham University, and her realization that while she's in love with the idea of romance, the actuality of a romantic/sexual relationship repulses her.
Alice Oseman herself is aroace, which makes perfect sense because throughout the novel I kept asking myself, "How does she know? How does she know?! How did she get these thoughts out of my head?"
for my fellow ace and/or aro people, let me quote some of the lines that just got me straight in the soul:
"I had a theory that a lot of people's "celebrity crushes" were just faked to fit in."
"I was disgusted by the thought of him near me. Wanting things from me. That wasn't normal, was it?"
"Oh, God, this thing is actually real, it's not just in fanfics and movies. And I'm supposed to be doing it too."
"Did I even know what romantic feelings felt like?"
"He was clearly the sort of person who I should like romantically. Who I could like romantically. He looked like a boyfriend. I loved his personality. I'd loved his personality for years. So I could fall in love with him. With a little bit of effort. Definitely."
"I thought I'd understood what all these romantic things would feel like--butterflies and the spark and just knowing when you liked someone. I'd read about these feelings hundreds of times in books and fanfic. I'd watched way more romcoms than was probably normal for an eighteen-year-old. But now I was starting to wonder whether these things were just made up."
"Straight people don't think shit like that."
"Just because I'd never liked anyone didn't mean I never would. Did it?"
"I thought all the movies were exaggerating, but you're all really out there just craving genitals and embarrassment. This has to be some kind of huge joke."
"How could I feel so sad about giving up these things that I did not actually want?"
"I felt like I was grieving. I was grieving this fake life, a fantasy future that I was never going to live."
"How was it fair that everyone got to feel that except me?"
"I never had any crushes when I was a child. Not any real ones, anyway. Sometimes I confused friendships for them, or just thinking a guy was really cool."
"For a long time, I was just dating and having sex because that's what people did. And I wanted to feel like those people."
"You've been so confused about stuff. You really thought we could be together, because you do love me. Not in a romantic way, but just as strongly."
"Oh. This is an asexual thing. I forgot other people are obsessed with having sex."
seriously the entire time I spent with this book I just kept asking "was this written for me specifically?" because that's exactly how it felt.
It is a gorgeous book that explores that bizarre feeling of not knowing the word for what you are, not even knowing that you are something out of the ordinary because we don't define ourselves by what we lack and we just expect that one day, it'll happen and we'll be like everyone else. That struggle of trying to differentiate between loving someone and being in love with them, and trying to make the former into the latter and hurting everything in the process.
It is so good. 10/10, no complaints
also there's an asshole in the university's queer pride group who doesn't think aces belong and everyone hates him so that's fantastic, aphobes fuck off
in conclusion I highly recommend it
#Laura reads Loveless#Loveless#Loveless novel#Alice Oseman#Loveless book#aroace#actuallyasexual#actuallyaromantic#asexuality#aromanticism#ace representation#aro representation#asexuality in fiction#aromanticism in fiction
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Idk if my answers will contribute to anything, but this questionnaire seems fun so let's go
1. How do you identify?
I identify with the labels aromantic, alloaro, demisexual, greyplatonic/aplspec
2. How do you feel about the following
Romance: repulsed
Touching: I don't like body contact in general, but that's my autism, it has nothing to do with me being aspec
Hugging: that's okay as long as I'm asked first
Kissing: not in the face/ on the lips. Everything else is okay (except my chest. Trans guy struggle)
Sex: great I think. Ask me again when I'm not a virgin anymore
Love: I kinda relate to loveless people. I don't feel love for anyone, not romantic or platonic or queer platonic or anything else. But I love the whole world and nature and my fandoms and everything so much that I don't label myself as loveless.
Queer platonic relationships: awesome concept. But I dislike that (some) aro people now seem to have replaced romantic relationships with queer platonic relationships in an amatonormative way. That they praise qprs so much and think every aro needs one or wants one. Just recycled amatonormativty
A significant other: don't need one. It's fine when other people find joy in it, just not for me
One night stands: valid as heck. Nothing wrong with them. I fight everyone who says otherwise
Porn (video): my demi ass doesn't like naked people I don't know, so not for me. But I'm not against them, consume them if you want, or not when it's not your thing. You can do whatever you want forever
Smut (written): smut is awesome. It's not easy to write good smut, but when you have the required skill you're basically a god
Dates/Dating: I don't date. And I don't understand the difference between dating and just hanging out. Someone explain to me please
3. What is one thing most people misunderstand about your identity?
I don't talk about my identities that often. But you can't look at my labels and know what's going on inside me, so I guess that could confuse people. Like, I'm aplspec but still want a friend with benefits. Technically I'm demi, but I still find people attractive after a few hours of knowing them, so I consider myself also alloaro. I'm aromantic but Love shipping. So I'm more complex than you'd think I guess
4. Have you encountered aphobia in your life?
I'd say no, but I encountered amatonormativity so much. Every person I'm out to supports me, but the amatonormative brain rot is real. So a person can support me, but still say it's valid that another person destroyed our plan to meet because she'll meet her girlfriend and romantic relationships are more important than platonic relationships. Why does relationship hierarchy even exist anymore
5. Anything else you'd like to add on the topic?
No hate against aces, but I'm tired that they overshadow every other aspec identity. It sucks that the aro tag is unusable when you don't want to consume ace content. It sucks that books about the queer community have whole paragraphs or even pages about being ace, but aros just get a few sentences. And it's often explained in detail that aces don't have to be aro, but we aros just get something like "oh and sometimes aros aren't ace" and then nothing's mentioned about alloaros ever again. Aces and aroaces are totally valid, and they deserve their communities and own spaces, but I just want a space for aros to exist without having to think or talk about asexuality. A space that's purely focused about being aromantic, and nothing else. I'm not even angry anymore, just so tired
The Aspec Questionaire
Aspec is such a vast category and one some folks (especially allo folks) tend to treat like a monolith. So I thought it’d be good to do a little questionnaire to demonstrate.
(Skip anything you don’t want to answer.)
1. How do you identify?
2. How do you feel about the following, one word answers are fine if you want:
- - Romance
- - Touching
- - Hugging
- - Kissing
- - Sex
- - Love
- - Queer Platonic Relationships
- - A Significant Other
- - One Night Stands
- - Porn (Video)
- - Smut (Written)
- - Dates/Dating
3. What is the thing you think most people misunderstand about your identity?
4. Have you encountered aphobia in your life?
5. Anything else you’d like to add on the topic?
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This is my attempt at a Helluva Boss revamp
Because of course a teen on the net can attempt to write something more compelling than a team of professional writers.
These are my main complaints:
-The "character arcs" are way too quick for my taste. And they are more an exploration thing than a development.
-Blitzø is an asshole that is aware of being such. But more than an asshole: he is annoying. And by the point is shown that he feels bad for being an asshole, and that we should feel bad for him :(((, he already got unbearable. Why is this man the protagonist?
-The series is WAYY too focused on Blitzø, Moxxie and Stolas. To the point that Millie doesn't seem to have a personality of her own, and she is a main character. Hell, the episode about her parents is focused on Moxxie and Blitzø with this new dude.
-The color pallete. The reds are nice. But why only get stuck with red, white, black and mayyyybe yellow? If you made color pallets for the characters, you wouldn't recognize which is which (except Stolas, and mayyyybe Loona, but with Stolas you could confuse him with his family). The better looking episodes are the ones where it looks different enough.
-Consider this an extension of the first point: Blitzø with Stolas. Is way to quick, to the point where you can't pin point when it suddenly turned into something romantic (or at least something more than sexual)
Now. What would I do?
If Blitzø is still the protagonist: the point of the series wouldn't be that they're just hitmen. The point would be that in every adventure they're going, Blitzø slowly realizes that he is actively hurting the ones who he cares, and it culminates in the point when he wants to change. Not a full redemption, he would still be as immoral as any demon, but not as jerky as he was at the beginning. Also if he is doing something minor but shitty it would be at least funny.
But there's also the idea that Moxxie is the protagonist and we see from his point of view more. Then Blitz would become some sort of antagonist that gets some development tht removes that status (based on the idea above). Imagine. A hitman with his wife working on killing people and learning more about his boss. And this version of Moxxie would be more logical, yet has a very poor control of his emotions. Smart, yet gets angry easily. And while the series progresses, we see him actually improving his emotional intelligence. Also even though he is big brain he would explain his ideas badly, which lead to hijinks and that stuff.
With Millie... Let her have a personality besides her husband. Maybe she is more emotionally intelligent than her husband, and also a street smarts sort of gal. Also Millie would be interested in more "vain" stuff, like how cities look, or how humans act, since it's stuff that seems odd to her. This could cause some sort of conflict (that gets resolved in the duration of the show),
And with Loona. Yeah. She would still be a edgelord. Someone who interacts rudely to everyone, even though the rest attempts at being nice to her (if it works or not is another thing). But I would explore more of that. Why is she so rude? We had parts of ONE episode to see that. The fact that she has no friends and was adopted just before she turned 18 is never addressed, just stated and then we never see it again. Maybe we could see more of her trying to befriend other people, yet failing since she doesn't really know how to interact with other people in a positive way. Y'know. Explore her more.
And... The Blitzø x Stolas stuff. Oh boy.
In this version, this starts with the moment Stolas gave Blitzø the grimoire in exchange of sex. Stolas is in a loveless marriage, yet he doesn't have the guts to ask his wife about divorce, mostly because of his daughter (even though she is miserable hearing them fight so badly) and social pressure (of the what will the people think if he divorces and stays with someone who is below him regarding social class), so instead he searches some sort of care with someone without telling his wife, and Blitzø is not the first person who he has attempted to have an affair with, but is the longest affair he had, therefore, he falls in love with . (It's clear in the original series that Stolas and Stella's marriage is miserable, but is not clear why they haven't divorced, even though is implied in episode 8 that they did split up, so I gave them a reason)
So Stolas from the beginning is searching for some sort or romantic -or even platonic- love (he is not as degenerate as the og series, but still has one or two weird moments), but Blitzø is just there for the book and has intercourse because he can have. And the "big moment of truth" that starts the series climax would be the point when they realize the other's feelings: Blitz realizing that Stolas is in love with him, and Stolas realizing that Blitzø is not interested in him for him, and with this, Stolas realizes too that Blitzø is truly a horrible person. And no, they would not magically fix things and end together. They would at best become friends. But the most possible thing is that Stolas shares the grimoire and there's no other situation where they both interact willingly.
Also with Stella and the "wanting to kill Stolas" thing, it would be actually explained. The reasoning behind her plan is that she wants to leave him, but is afraid of what people will think of both her and him, and has come to the conclusion that the route she needs to take is to straight up murder Stolas. Not only she would be done with him forever, but either she or Octavia would take Stolas' place as a "prince of hell".
If we are going with the Blitzø as the protagonist route, then it would be ambiguous (in between the romantic-platonic-sexual attraction limbo) , but with the series progression, it would slowly become less subtle. But with the Moxxie as protagonist, it would be more straight to the point, and Blitz would appear to be oblivious to the romantic advances.
And with the pallete thing, I tried doing something that would make the show less boring to look in the color sense. Still a red dominant palette, but not as much as before
That's all the problems I believe I would resolve. Is semi coherent, so don't be afraid to ask something about it, just don't be a dick asking about it.
Perhaps if something is brought up, I could add this below 👁👁
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Uh hello, I'm kinda questioning... so i think I need advice or something,
I think I found a label that kinda fits but I don't know if it's fair to call myself aspec/under the asexual umbrella
But I'm gonna start from the beginning so this will make sense,
Ps: this got long so I'm gonna cut some parts and make some bullet points instead
When I was 8 I chose who to have a crush on
When I was 12 I joined a very gay fandom and shipped gay people (helped me stopped being homophobic)
"But I wasn't gay"
When I was like 13 every day on the bus I was thinking of this one girl
And I was like I can't be gay
And I had a whole list on my brain of why "I wasn't allowed to be gay"
Till a friend of mine came out as bi when we were like 13-14, and I realized that if they're allowed to just be Then There's no invisible wall forbidding me
And I did too, I came out to a few people as bi
When I was 12 I had a crush on a boy, once my friend pretended to like him to see my reaction(cause it was my 1st crush while they had a different one every week) and I had deleted my feelings after a 45 minutes class, but she just told me it was a joke but, I already like, felt nothing?
I've had a couple of crushes over the years, it actually takes me a long time to figure out "Oh hey this might be a crush" and most of my crushes, they were just random people from school, that I've never talked to and I didn't actually wanted to? Like that's my crush ok. End of story, no biggie
I only had a crush on a friend once, and I never told anyone about it. This was like when I was 15, and I recently (im 17 now) found out they have an online gf and I didn't felt any kind of jealously one might expect to feel, I'm happy for them
The thing with my crushes is, fictional characters? I usually love the boys, real people? Usually Girls that look gay
I think what mostly makes me question whether I'm fully bi, is that I related a little too much to Georgia Warr from Loveless by Alice Oseman (for anyone that doesn't know the book is about Georgia figuring out her identity as aroace)
One of my main suspicions is a photo, it was from an actor I really liked a few years ago, he was shirtless and all the comments were like "😍😍🔥🔥🥵🤩hot" and the first time I saw it I was like yeah, but then I saw the same photo a week later and I was like ew why is he shirtless get dressed dude, and I was confused with the same comments I saw and agreed a week ago
Also, some of the fictional characters i love I say I'm in love with them, but I don't actually want to "date" anyone (like my friends do) and 9/10 I ship the characters with someone
And I recently found out what Aceflux is
I would explain it as "on/off sexual attraction" that's how I understand it, at least. I don't know if/how much I'm wrong. I can't find a lot about it online
When I think about it, I'm not sure what I find "hot" sometimes I see someone and I'm like oh hot but not like in a "I wanna sleep with them hot"
I'm 17 and I've never been in a relationship or anything,
And while its sounds cool and all, I'm doing fine single yknow? I'm not actively looking for a relationship like most people seem to be doing
I've been questioning with the Aceflux label for a while now, it just makes sense,
Things I've done/thought in the past make more sense if an "on/off sexuality" is an option
but I feel like a fraud if I do use it and call myself that
Google is like "mostly on the asexual spectrum but sometimes allo"
What if it's a mix? What if I'm more allo than Aceflux? Or actually I'm not even sure anymore?? Idk I think I experience sexual attraction like 10 minutes a week when I see something on the internet that seems fancy
Is there a way to measure it?
Would it be unfair to use that label?
I don't even know anymore
Also, bc I've got double questions how? Romantic people? Demiromantic? How different? Like do people get Romantic feelings instantly?how? what? I don't understand
I'm questioning everything at this point
Only my gender, which I figured out at 15, seems to be safe...for now
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i also have two thoughts. ok so first off is romana who is Extremely aro-coded imo (she doesn't understand marriage refuses to get married and dislikes being flirted with lol). she's also raised in a repressive society which teaches her to be cold and closed off rather than teaching her how to express her emotions and she was bullied and manipulated by a powerful spirit (though she doesn't realise any of this). so by the time she's an adult she's introduced to the doctor and he more or less forces her to unlearn time lord bullshit and like. they love each other (they're both aro lol). it's incredibly heavily implied (though never outright stated) and my thought is just that. romana has always been taught that love is wrong and unnatural and doesn't really understand love especially not romantically so when she learns to love the doctor (mostly as a friend to begin with) and she just... doesn't know how to handle it. and she gets increasingly frustrated until she essentially breaks down crying (this isn't canon but it should be) and yells at the doctor. and then they talk through their shit and bond and fall into... some kind of relationship lol
my second thought is about bbc ghosts, specifically sophie (who is. a side character but i digress) married against her will to humphrey (also married against his will). they're pretty much trapped in a loveless marriage because they don't know how to communicate with each other and sophie understandably does not like him very much. anyway in canon he dies but she escapes (after plotting treason) but i have an au which is like. what if they both stay around as ghosts. over the span of about 400 years they slowly become VERY close friends but as above repressive society with very specific ideals of what people should be like (particularly women in this scenario). humphrey's body unfortunately has a mind of its own and (this bit is actually canon) fucks an extremely repressive edwardian woman. no, humphrey's head is not attached at the time. anyway in this au when sophie (who is already not great at dealing with her emotions at all) finds she's furious but unable to explain why and essentially confuses the hell out of pat and mary (other ghosts around at the time) and to be honest everyone because she's very rarely outwardly emotional like that. pat's like "what's wrong? as in, shy are you reacting like this?" and she just can't articulate it at all. about ten minutes later she storms back to wherever fanny & humphrey's body (it should be noted she's been storming around with humphrey's head this entire time) & sticks his head back on his body and (to fanny, the edwardian) snaps at her because "if you don't love all of him then you don't love him at all!" anyway for the other ghosts a lot of things suddenly make sense. fanny is suitably offended and leaves in a huff. pat goes "...do you maybe love humphrey yourself?" she says "don't be stupid, i- wait. fuck, you're right." and then she and humphrey kiss. for added comedy later on alison talks to everyone about it and as it turns out she and humphrey already had sex several hundred years ago (thomas, who had to hear it, is still annoyed about it) and alison is just like. huh. you lot are idiots. which is true, they are
also. can i send you an ask about how i think romana & sophie are actually. pretty similar
HELLO OH MY GOD everything about bbc ghosts feels so Hysterical to me, i ADORE reading every one of your thoughts on it, truly. it's the energy of a background tv show from my childhood playing where i pay attention sometimes and actually get invested because oh my God.
oh man romana <//3 growing up in such a repressed environment and... learning to accept feelings 🥺🥺 ough. Ough. i consider watching dr who everytime you say to, know this (speaking of.. Where can i watch it)
humphrey shenanigans oh boy everytime you talk about him i laugh. THIS AU IS HILARIOUS FJXFJFZFJZXCH you should write it if u havent already
GOD this is all very good i love your tv show blorbos to pieces thank you
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Dalinar, Elhokar, Renarin
oh boy the big three. this is LONG so i am putting it under the cut
Dalinar:
sexuality headcanon: he is bisexual babey! but he is very much repressed and confused about being into dudes
gender headcanon: this is a cis man. this guy has never had a gender crisis in his life.
a ship i have with said character: fuck idk hes not really shippable. i think he had a one night stand with sadeas in his youth like everyone else in the fandom does. i have an au in my head that i will NEVER talk about where basically my self insert and dalinar are bathumpin. i think he lusts after random soldiers during his loveless marriage with evi. idk im very much of the opinion that in canon dlainar should never get a s/o cuz he sucks at romantic relationshiops and he doesn't really deserve a gf or a bf or anything because he has to work on himself first
a brotp i have with said character: this is so funny does dalinar have friends besides the og war criminal squad and like. havar. ah toh how could it have been a party without you. i think dalinar and navani would have ruled if they were friends like i do not want to see elhokar's mom getting as narsty as brand sand will allow with dalinar but i do want to see them strategizing together you know. why did they have to kiss.
a notp i have with said character: Ⅰ. HATE. DALINAR/KALADIN. WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT. i also. dont like dalivani but it doesnt disgust me at the moral level dalinar/kaladin does it just makes me go wow you really are fucking your dead brother's wife huh. we really do have to read paragraphs upon paragraphs about how much of a sexy milf navani is huh.
a random headcanon: before writing oathbringer he is encouraged by like. navani. to write poems to practice like idk handwriting and creative thought or whatever the hell. and so he writes poems. but theyre all really bad and they all rhyme but have really bad rhythm. they are never published but jasnah has them in whatever the roshar equivalent of a manila folder in a file cabinet is and she looks at them for inspiration when she's stuck writing another ketek for a wedding and has poet's block because it reminds her that at least she's a better poet than her uncle
general opinion over said character: dalinar is in a very frustrating place in my brain because there are very few people who share the view that he is like. doing the best he can but also like. hes not doing enough. like both can be true at the same time. and like i either see people like DALINAR SO SEXY heart eyes emoji who cares that he killed all those people and was a terrible husband. or people who are like. dalinar sucks so in my fan content i am going to make him suck in ways that he doesnt actually suck in canon because hes never done a kind thing in his life right. and both are like sandpaper to my brain but in different ways. dalinar is great but i dont trust people with him yknow
Elhokar:
sexuality headcanon: homosexual elhokar kholin. this guy is gay. this guy is the twink of a lifetime.
gender headcanon: i think it would be fun if he was genderfluid like he propbably would figure that out if he lived and was doing lightweavery things
a ship i have with said character: CAN YOU REALLY SHIP ELHOKAR WITH ANYONE⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇⁇ he doesnt really. he doesnt really have romantic chemistry with like. anyone. hes gay but nobody wants him. i think there is something to be said about him possibly having a VERY UNREQUITED thing for kaladin but room temp milk is something that i do not even pretend to comprehend. i think he's more of a "have brief quiet flings with dudes" sort of guy. i like elhokar/hoid due to tomodachi life. and i like elhokar/elliot decker also due to tomodachi life. idk. i dont really ship elhokar w anyone
a brotp i have with said character: I LOVE THE CONCEPT OF THE KHOLIN COUSINS ALL BEING VERY GOOD FRIENDS WITH EACH OTHER like obviously i like the concept of he and jasnah actually having a sibling relationship that we see and i like the concept of him and adolin being flashy bastards that get into arguments about being flashy bastards and i like the concept of him and renarin being like. surprisingly close just cuz they both have the Liking Men thing going on yknow. it is very important to me. like i know logically the kholin cousins would not all be super close to each other because there's a 15 year gap between jasnah and renarin and even the 4 year gap between elhokar and adolin is pretty big when you're a kid but i want to believe. also honorable mention for younger aesudan and elhokar being bros jess your brain is so huge
a notp i have with said character: whoever that person is who did one chapter of a moash/elhokar fic on ao3 i would love to study you
a random headcanon: elhokar naturally sits like with one leg crossed over the other but when hes in public he sits up straight and manspreads to try to project a kingly posture
general opinion i have over said character: this is ANOTHER character that nobody gets right. like everyone is either ike ELHOKAR MY LITTLE BEAN he did nothing wrong <3 or theyre like FUCK ELHOKAR FOR DOING LIKE 2 BAD THINGS oh by the way here's my favorite character who did nothing wrong and their favorite is like. dalinar or raboniel or some shit. my friends are the only ones who know and perceive the truth
Renarin:
sexuality headcanon: gay :)
gender headcanon: i think it would be fun if he had a case of the masc aligned nonbinaries. he/they renarin. this is the future we want
a ship i have with said character: literally rlainarin is so good. i dont usually read fanfiction but sometimes when im feeling sad i read rlain/renarin fic because love is real
a brotp i have with said character: see elhokar's section on kholin cousins ALSO. i think it's really important that he's friends with people in bridge four. a group of frat boys is something that can be so personal
a notp i have with said character: i started reading the books like at the same time renarin was confirmed to have a crush on rlain so every ship i see that's not that makes my brain go [doug dimmadome voice] not right! special anti-shoutout to renarin/shallan though. hatred violence.
a random headcanon: the reason he's so knowledgeable on wine is because of him spending his preteens and early teen years buying dalinar wine to earn his love :(
general opinion of said character: RENARIN IS SO GOOD. literally the power of renarin is that i have never in my life ever seen anyone who hates renarin EVER. everyone is always like renarin is a good boy :) i will say that people infantalize him a lot and i fell into this trap partially because i thought he was like 16 or 17 because i thought adolin was like 19 or 20 so id say shit like oh i want to help him study for the sat i want to go to his band concerts. nah he is 19 in twok that is an entire adult. also i think he should go just a little bit apeshit at some point i think he should be a little bit mad at dalinar. renarin rights
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I read more chapters of Loveless and more stuff that I think is worthy mention:
SPOILERS
Pip, a latina character says latinx. And as a latina I dislike it. It is just that this term doesn't work for Portuguese and Spanish speakers, but maybe it is different for latinos that were born/raised in English speaking countries. (Just use latino or latine please)
In the book there is a short talk about how being poc intersects with being queer. And since I'm a white closed ace, I'm not going to say if the author did it right. I just think it is nice this topic is talked about in the book.
Other interisting thing is a gay character being aphobic. Unfortunetely this is a thing, the lgbt community is, a lot of times, not accepting of aspec folks. And I think it is nice Alice talked about it. So, again if you don't feel like reading characters being aphobic, don't read this book. The aphobic character is framed as bad, as a "villain". But if this is not you're thing, that is not your thing.
Two thing that I forgot to put in my last post about the book:
1. How Georgia is always thinking: I know this person is attractive but I don't feel attracted to them. I never thought that. Maybe that is because I only discovered I was ace two weeks ago and I thought that just looking at someone and thinking they are good looking was feeling attracted to them. But I don't have those thoughts. It is just, wow this person is beautiful and that is it.
2. And she also says she doesn't have a type. And I kinda do?? Not in the way that with this type of person I have sexual thoughts, but I just tend to think that people who look in that certain way are more aesthetically attractive. Again, I just look and them and think: beautiful.
And now, this books it getting kinda good.
Seriously I'm so happy Georgia finally decided to talk with Sunil about his asexual flag pin. I was so tired of her trying to force herself to be in relationships, especially because she put Jason in the middle of that mess and I kinda like him. I get this is a thing aspec folks do, and this was a part of her journey. But I am mean and I didn't like her so I was just annoyed with her drama. And just asking all the time why she didn't speak with Sunil.
Btw Sunil is the only character I like. He is my fav character. Now let's talk about Sunil explaining asexuality to Georgia:
I'm gonna put quotes of the book here.
[ID: Dialogue from Loveless:
'So...' I thought about this 'That means... you don't want to have sex with anyone?'
He chuckled. 'Not necessarily. Some asexual people feel that way. But some don't'
Now I was just confused. Sunil could tell /.end ID]
And this is relatable. I also was confused about this. The difference between looking at someone and thinking about doing sex and just wanting to do sex. So yeah, nice.
[ID: Dialogue from Loveless:
'Some asexuals still enjoy having sex, for a whole variety of reason,' he continued. 'I think that's why a lot of people find it confusing. But some asexuals don't like sex at all, and some are just neutral about it. Some asexuals still feel romantic attracton to people - wanting to be in relationships, or even kiss people, for example. But others don't want romantic relationships at all. It's a big, big spectrum with a whole range of different feelings and experiences. And there's really no way to tell how one specific person feels, even it they openly describe themselfes as asexual.' /.end ID]
I liked this part, I think it explained the ace spectrum quite well. I mean is the first time Georgia has a real contact with what asexuality means.
[ID: Dialogue from Loveless:
...didn't understand. 'Asexuality means I'm not sexually attracted to any gender. So I don't look at men, or women, or anyone, and think, wow, I want to do sexy stuff with them'
This made me snort. 'Does anyone actually think stuff like that?'
Sunil smiled, but it was a sad smile. 'Maybe not in those exact words, but yes, most people think stuff like that'
This shook me. 'Oh' /.end. ID]
I also didn't believe when I discover that happened and books, movies, series do not exaggerate when they portray sexual attraction. Like, it is just so weird to think that people just feel sexual attracion for strangers. Really, how? How can you look at someone and have sexual thoughts/desires about them???
Sunil is homoromantic. That is all I needed to know. Now I'm oficially shipping him with Jason. Is this because they are the only characters I like in this book? Yes, but I don't care.
[ID: Dialogue from Loveless:
'So romantic attraction is different from sexual attraction?'
'For some people they feel like different things, yes.' said Sunil. 'So some people find it useful to define those two aspects of their attraction differently.'
'Oh.' I didn't know how I felt about that. What I felt was so whole - it didn't feel like two different things.
'Jess- she's aromantic, meaingn she doesn't feel romantic attraction for anyone. She's also bisexual. She won't mind me telling you that. She finds a lot of people physically attractive, but she just doesn't fall in love with them.'/.end ID]
I also think it is nice Alice made sure to say asexuality and aromantism are two different things and people can be one without being another. They are not the same thing. They come from the lack of two different types of attractions. And it is nice we have our mc, who is obviously aroace, a gay ace character and a bi aro character. Different aspec people. And just a warning, Georgia has a aphobic(?) reaction to it. She thinks it is sad Jess is aromantic and cannot love the people she feels physically attracted to.
This is not like a deep analysis, but overall I liked it. It is a good first contact with asexuality and aromantism. But Idk maybe people feel other way??
Best regards,
Me.
Ps. I hope I did the image description is right.
#loveless#alice oseman#georgia warr#pip quintana#asexual community#ace#ace character#aro character#aroace character#aphobia
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