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The dog days are over.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#The childhood flashback is one of my favourite scenes in MDZS and yes I am disapointing myself in how little I am covering it.#If it is any consolation...I'll be bringing JYL's piggyback scene into another comic later on.#There truly is something so specific and yet resonant in the way our bonds as children feel so deep.#But the world doesn't stay as small as it does when you are a kid. The problems you argue about get bigger and more serious.#You still hold so much love for this person despite how much you want to throw hands with them.#To have such a complicated history with someone and then fall apart...You always think you have time to heal the wound.#Why wouldn't you! You've never had anything but time with this person. A brother not in blood but in true and genuine bond.#And then the fucker dies! It's horrible and sudden and the last words you exchanged were cold and awful!#What do you do with those dead end feelings? What do you do but grieve bitterly and angrily?#There is no resolution for all the love you wanted back. There will never be an opportunity to bridge the gap between you.#Someone you loved died thinking you hated them. Because you thought you had more time.#If anyone dares say Jiang Cheng didn't love WWX I'll be the first to fire up the powerpoint presentation on why he absolutely does.
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MDZS AU where Jiang Cheng realizes that Lan Sizhui is the Wen orphan that Wei Wuxian took care off during the Burial Mounds arc, decides that's close enough to qualify him as Nephew, declares that no Nephew of His (much less a surrogate son of Wei Wuxian's) is going to be raised in the Cloud Recedes, and immediately launches into a custody battle with Lan Wangji.
But since neither Jiang Cheng or Lan Wangji can acknowledge that Sizuhi has any connection to Wei Wuxian, both begin steadfastly and stubbornly insisting that he is a Cultivator of peerless potential and skill and he belongs in their sect thank you very much, and would clearly be very unhappy in the other's. This confuses the hell out of the already mystified Cultivation world, who had barely adjusted yet to gossiping about Sizhui being Wangji's illegitimate child by mysterious love affair.
(Eventually the common consensus in the rumor mills is that both JC and LW where in love with Sizhui's mother and both believe themselves to be Sizhui's real father.)
(LW couldn't care less what gossips say, but JC has to bite his tongue till it bleeds to avoid telling anyone the truth in a fit of anger.)
(It was Nie Huaisang who put that rumor out in the first place, partly to troll JC, partly because, in a way, it's a little true.)
#MDZS#mo dao zu shi#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#the untamed#Jiang Cheng#lan wangji#lan sizhui#wei wuxian#Wangxian#nie huaisang#mdzs shitposting hour#thoughts that come to me in line for take out#in the end they settle on joint custody#half the year in the cloud receces half the year at lotus pier#but not after first re-litigating every point of contention in the 'wei wuxian should have come with ME' argument#poor sizhui is just confused and a little overwhelmed by the whole thing#being assigned nephew by Jiang Cheng is an honor and a horror at the same time#just ask Jin Ling#also he dosen't feel worthy of all this attention#but in a weird reverse self fulfilling prophecy sort of way#with both LW and JC to train him#he does end up one of the best cultivators of his generation#then WWX comes back and complicates things EVEN FURTHER#but somehow LS's joint custody situation is enough to prompt a Jiang Sibling reconciliation#and eventually LW begrudgingly agrees to live a few months out of the year at Lotus Pier#everyone is happy but the family dinners at first at awkwarddddddd
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I came across a fallen tree I felt the branches of it looking at me Is this the place we used to love? Is this the place that I've been dreaming of?
#mdzs#mdzs fanart#jiang cheng#sometime during The Thirteen Years of wwx's death#do you ever feel nostalgic even though you're mad at someone? yeah that feeling
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Drawing a really old meme
#I told Cerusee that there should be a zhanchengxian of that meme#a quick break from my other drawing#Zhanchengxian#lan wangji#jiang cheng#wei Wuxian#i think it's funny#i know there's a continuation of this where the boyfriend is hugging the mareep and while that is funny to draw#i don't feel like drawing more than this#mdzs#i'm sure someone's already done this. i just didn't see it XD
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No one understands Jiang Cheng like I do except that’s the point. Jiang Cheng’s character is only truly understandable by the reader. And you have to make an effort. The narration fights you at every turn. The characters themselves aren’t interested in doing any heavy lifting. Wei Wuxian is too tired and hurt. Lan Wangji can’t let himself see anything but the mirror of his failure. There is no convenient Wen Ning to blurt out the truth for him. None see him clearly. There is only Jiang Cheng, his words, and his actions.
#not entirely happy how I worded this still#the narration in mdzs really feels like it’s trying to spoon feed you conclusions that are at times just not it#I’d call it a mark of bad writing BUT in Jiang Cheng’s case with the twist at the end it feels like it’s intentional#like the audience is let in on one last punchline without being aware that the joke had started#maybe I’m being insane the ppl who hate Jiang Cheng are right and there’s nothing deeper there I’ve played myself#jiang cheng#lan wangji#wei wuxian#wen ning#mdzs#Jiang Cheng himself doesn’t help either
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the untamed + text posts
#theuntamededit#theuntameddaily#mxtxnet#asiandramanet#cdrama#usergege#userkareena#userrenee#cdramsource#cdramedit#jiang cheng#the untamed#i feel i haven't giffed for my blog since forever#stuff that isn't xz i mean haha#i think the last time was early jan? just feels like it's been long enough that i can't gif anymore#so i tried#and of course it had to be jc#*#tutp
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Crazy that one of the underlying takeaways from MDZS is that you should be punished for believing what people show you.
Jiang Cheng was never told anything about wwx's actions and repeatedly watched him break all his promises to him and YMJ (even after he, JC, gave up himself and YMJ for wwx, he did not receive the same in return from his own knowledge pool.) Yet, he is very suddenly expected to be remorseful and grateful when Wen Ning reveals the core transfer. The world JC lived in had these truths: WWX isn't helping to rebuild our home, training our disciples. He has become a drunk and is actively undermining the sect and what little authority I've been able to cultivate, which is devastating enough when I am the only young war hero/sect leader excluded from the great sects' sworn brotherhood allyship. When I (JC) try to find out why he's doing this and stop him, he brushes me off and makes light of it. I continue to tolerate it anyway because he's wwx and I love him. Then, instead of putting in the work he should be to save our people he turns around and saves the Wens, at great expense and danger not only to our sect but himself, as one of the only people I still have left. When I tell him he cannot have both he chooses them. I still make sure he knows he's loved and belongs with the Jiang (by bringing our sister to see him before her wedding) even though, by all accounts, he has foresaken us on what feels like a series of whims. Then, he kills our brother in law (he never gives me an explanation or excuse.) Then, when I and everyone he's pissed off confront him, he gets our sister killed, goes crazy, and is torn apart by his own ghosts. Somehow 13 years later after picking up all the pieces he left behind and raising the nephew he orphaned and rebuilding the sect he abandoned (alone) I am simultaneously expected to be remorseful for not being grateful to him all these years for something I never asked him to do or knew about, and which I was actively tricked into and repeatedly lied to about. In the adaptations where I don't immediately fall on my sword and punish myself in the epilogue (seclusion in CQL the donghua) the fanbase determines I am a terrible horrible person for it.
This post is also tangentially about Lan Xichen taking the heat for JGY's actions even in MXTX's writing (abandoned by LWJ at the height of his pain, entering seclusion.)
#anyway I have a lot of Feelings about how JC is expected to prostrate himself to receive forgiveness#specifically with regard to how he 'wronged wwx' who did so much for him#even though he is actively living in an entirely different world/perspective than wwx where wwx didn't do shit#and actively caused him so so many problems so many times#and he was the one repeatedly giving up his safety to protect him#like I totally understand why wwx thought that was the best way to handle things its very in character#but that doesn't mean he was right#and it is in fact BOTH of them that needed to do things differently if things were to work out better#it really isn't as simple as 'jc should have trusted him' or 'been there for him' because he did#jiang cheng#mdzs
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You know that scene in Turning Red? What if Jin Ling saw that lost and traumatized younger version of Jiang Cheng…
#mdzs#jiang cheng#jin ling#spreading jiujiu feelings and crying about it#I'm tired y'all and my emotions are everywhere
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Something about Liu Qingge and Jiang Cheng both carrying around physical objects of their loved ones so they can return it, but the Receiving never quite having the same impact as the Returning. LQG carrying around Shen Qingqiu's fans until he can take it back, except SQQ's already forgotten about it/gotten a new one and no longer has the same use for it. JC carrying suiban around on his back until he finds Wei Wuxian, except WWX can no longer use it. There is no real relevance for the object on the receiving end. Not anymore, at least. And it's very. Hmm.
#you could argue wwx had use for chengqing#but we kind of dont see what he feels about All That theres no comment from him#liu qingge#jiang cheng#svsss#mdzs#liushen#hey maybe this was a liucheng thesis all along???????#scum villans self saving system#mo dao zushi#wei wuxian#shen qingqiu#shen yuan#yunmeng shuangjie#yunmeng bros#the untamed#twin prides of yunmeng#chengxian#gaya rambles
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its that time of the month, jiang cheng LETS GET IT!!!!!
#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#jiang cheng#lan xichen#xicheng#JIANG CHENG PERIOD CRAMPS BC IM FUCKING SUFFERING TOO 😍😍😍😍😍#projecting my feelings to my fave character done right (wish all we have lxc taking care of us 😒😒)
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rewatching the scene of jiang cheng yelling at wei wuxian after unmasking him in qinghe is destroying me. first of all absolutely every single angry cruel thing he says is actually a bid for connection and a plea for reassurance, so jot that down. secondly he is soooo jealous of both lan wangji and wen ning (because of the way they have chosen or been chosen, respectively, by wei wuxian) and not trying to hide it even a little bit. thirdly he keeps referring to their shared history and to things that wei wuxian should remember about it and even explicitly (passive-aggressively) brings up wei wuxian's promise that they would be together forever??? and clearly wants wei wuxian to come home so bad?? and yet has never ONCE even ALLUDED to the fact that he lost his golden core because he would do anything to keep wei wuxian safe?? like that is a card he could be playing if he wanted wei wuxian to choose him (which he clearly does) but he never plays it? even through the end of the show he literally never ever ever plays that card???????
#even in guanyin temple HE NEVER EVEN SUGGESTS THE EXISTENCE OF A CARD???????#god DAMN can someone please discover the antidote for feelings about jiang cheng#put me out of my misery!!!!!#the untamed#jiang cheng#they're brothers. they are BROTHERS#my posts#f
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the untamed (2019) // sophocles, jean anouilh, trans. lewis galantiére: antigone
#jwy’s eyes filled to the brim with tears as the whole of the gentry demand his brother’s end and swear on his demise RUINS me#i mean. his brother in law is dead his sister widowed and her barely one month old son without a father#but that doesn’t matter. not to jwy#still he doesn’t want his brother dead#still he doesn’t say a word as the others degrade and defile that brother#still he doesn’t lead his men to draw swords or ready bows on that brother#still he wants to shield that brother to defend his honor and at a moment he feels the other is worth none#and what’s funny is that his brother is those things - rebel and traitor - those and other more awful names#jwy to some degree agrees. maybe more so#really no one has been as or more wronged by his brother than he has#first with the murders of his family and the fall of his home to being abandoned for the same wens to blame for it#so yes he is a rebel and a traitor and more but still he is his brother#being betrayed by your brother doesn’t mean he’s not your brother. maybe he’s more your brother for it#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#yunmeng bros#the untamed#mdzs#<3
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"Leave. I want to be alone."
"Please don't make me"
"I wont repeat myself."
"At least look me in the eyes when you send me away. Your Highness."
#fenglian#xie lian#feng xin#heavens official blessing#heaven official's blessing#tian guan ci fu#tgcf#anyways i cried several times while brute forcing this#bonus points for the sad jiang cheng parents divorce music i was listening to#they make me so happy but also they make me miserable#SEVEN SEAS CALL MEEE#IM FREE ALL SUMMER#“i feel like drawing the danmei book ilustrations would be so fun HOW HARD CAN IT BE”#answer is VERY hard
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When Jiang Cheng says something he shouldn't have said.
[ID: A MDZS comic. Jiang Cheng angrily shouts, "I wish I didn't sacrifice myself to the Wen for you!" Wei Wuxian looks stunned. "... What?" Then he looks furious. "You did what?!?"
Wei Wuxian grabs Jiang Cheng by the collar and growls, "C'mere you little shit. Say it again. What did you do?" Jiang Cheng, sweating, goes, "Nothing," and Wei Wuxian pleads, "Jiang Cheng, please..." Jiang Cheng looks down and puts a hand over Wei Wuxian. "Wei Wuxian..."
Jiang Cheng looks up with an earnest expression. "It's all in the past, it doesn't matter anymore. Let it go. (Or something.)" Wei Wuxian looms over him and scolds angrily, "Don't you dare use my words against me!" End ID]
#they'll cry about it on the floor. preferably with an audience. later#mdzs#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#crack#i think it's funny#i wish i don't feel the compulsive need to draw my dumb thoughts...
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Jiang Cheng & Wei Wuxian | missing wwx
#theuntamededit#theuntameddaily#cdrama#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#cdramaedit#the untamed#asiandramanet#mxtxnet#dailyasiandramas#cdramasource#twin heroes of yunmeng#mdzs#*#*th#what's this? idk but i had the gifs#and also i feel missing wwx is the jc experience
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the idea of jiang cheng “adopting” or even having any magnitude of amicable/favourable relationship with sizhui—wen yuan—after discovering him instead of lan wangji or during any other period of canon is extremely absurd and offensive to the point of hilarity. some people mistake jiang cheng’s hostility as being solely directed towards wei wuxian (often thought to be attributed to his prior “love” for wei wuxian turning incredibly sour post-yanli’s death) but no, jiang cheng didn’t let go of his resentment for the wens, either. even after the genocide that he led and was a part of. he was still hateful towards the wens.
“And,” the proprietress added, “I’ve also heard of another person who was frightened away.”
“Frightened away by what?” Wei Wuxian asked.
Surely, this person couldn’t also have coincidentally run into Jiang Cheng using his whip on someone. Just how diligent was Jiang Cheng in his arrests, and how frequently did he lash people?
“No, no,” the proprietress said. “It was his bad luck too, I guess. His surname is Wen, and of course, Sect Leader Jiang’s mortal enemy is also named Wen. He hates every person in the world who bears the name Wen, and he grits his teeth at the mere sight of them, clearly wanting to skin them alive. So of course, his face was not a pleasant sight…”
so honestly, i think a person like jiang cheng could never reasonably set aside his hatred for the wens to “look after” wen yuan when he couldn’t even do so atleast 15+ years after his grievance with the wens began (the only valid reason he has to hold against the wens was the lotus pier massacre and that too, the wen remnants had no hand in). this is also besides the fact that jc knew wen yuan was amongst the wen remnants when the siege happened.
#honestly i feel offended on sizhui’s behalf whenever this scenario is discussed because it’s not fluffy; it is *insidious* to consider it#also anyone who compares jc-sizhui’s hypothetical relationship with wwx-jin ling’s is an idiot because they are absolutely different#wen yuan#lan sizhui#canon jiang cheng#wei wuxian#mdzs#mdzs meta
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