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Oh my fucking GOD ok so I just "read" Lonely Place of Dying and...
Ok first off, Tim's first appearance as Robin is actually fighting 2face not Bane but whatevs, this CHILD THIS 13YO CHILD IS *LITERALLY*...
Like this tiny twat is just DAMNED AND DETERMINED to MAKE Bruce get a new Robin, to save Bruce and Dick when they're in trouble, like. LORDY CHILD. AND HE'S FUCKING DOING OK.
He lands a punch on 2face puts a tracker on him digs bruce and dick out from under an exploded building and goes with them to the next fight where he warns them of an attack and saves himself from the same attack thanks to quick thinking and at the end he's tying up 2face himself like timothy istg wtf.
AND ANOTHER THING
So in all the fics Jasons like HOW COULD BRUCE GET A NEW ROBIN SO SOON HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT THE RISKS and like its bruce he wants to murder for it... but LITERALLY bruce is the one who fights this the LONGEST like panel after panel he's saying "no, stop, robin is done, its too dangerous, i wont put another child in danger". And Tims just saying BATMAN NEEDS ROBIN over and over in every imaginable way.
And like this little shit who WAS in the batcave with alfred weaponizes alfred's fear for the others to get him to drive tim to the site and then the two of them as a badass grandpa grandson duo like 2shot 2face (temporarily), and then despite dick dramatically leaving the cave going ROBIN DIED WITH JASON in like 5 pages as he watches Tim hes like. "Damn hes good. Damn. Look at him go. You know what, hired." And bruce is the FINAL HOLDOUT even though he agrees to like train tim, he would not have if it weren't for Tim's beating him over the damn head with BATMAN NEEDS ROBIN and then the other two braincellholding family members agreeing. So literally Bruce is the last person Jason should be angry at 😂😂😂😂😂
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THIS COMIC?
#sprite said#sprite read#jason todd#tim drake#batman#alfred pennyworth#lonely place of dying#istg#TIMOTHY#i need these fics PLEASE#i want jason showing up at wayne manor with his guns and righteousness#screaming at bruce HOW DARE YOU#and bruce just sighs#bc he is so so tired#gestures behind him at tim and dick#who had adopted tim way before bruce ever did#and hes just like#you wanna tell them no?#please i beg you TRY IT
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Dick thinks that just because he’s a grown ass man, Harvey won’t climb a chandelier after him to get him down like he did when he was young. Dick is very wrong.
#au where harveys still two face and literally nothing changes except he and Bruce are married and also raise the batboys together#I just want Harvey wrangling these feral birds like a tired father#especially dick I just know he was an absolute nightmare as Robin. ‘I want a bat burger please’ ‘dick i kidnapped you’ ‘:(‘#*sigh* do you want fries too?#harvey dent#dick grayson#two face#dc two face#text post#dc#dc comics
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Danny as Fenton takes a hit that no human boy should survive while in a different city (im going crossover here) and just transforms into phantom and pretends to be all sad that he died. Just for a moment. He then proceeds to kick the baddies ass. Claims he got ghost powers and fucks off. Imagine if Captain America or Batman saw this while failing ti protect him, hell or any hero type. Danny doesn’t think much on it and just goes on with his week. Continues being Fenton of course but what if he runs into whatever hero, but out if costume, saw him do that.
“How are you here? And alive?”
Danny holding a smoothie:”uhhhh I made a miraculous recovery”
He just shrugs it off and goes about his day. It isn’t until he finally gets some sleep later that night that he wakes up in a cold sweat realising he now knows their secret identity. “Oh well it’s neat I guess” starts to go back to sleep only to bolt back up “oh god now they know my secret identity”
Meanwhile said hero is too busy trying to figure out how to help this random kid to even be worried about the fact that they outed themselves. Someone else probably points it out to them and has to explain it twice before it gets thru.
#danny phantom#crossovers#dp x mcu#dpxdc#dp x dc#I like to use batman a lot cause his need to protect these kids probably makes him a little stupid#like imagine him in the batcave looking into fenton now and nightwing comes in starts asking about it#only to have to find out that bruce basically told the kid hes batman#except bruce is tired and worried so he isnt getting it#no B I mean like how does bruce wayne know the kid died. only batman saw it#if you are trying to make some sort of joke it’s not working. now please excuse me I have to figure this out#a sigh and facepalm#B imagine what the kid is gonna think when bruce wayne asks him how he is alive but batman watched him die.#slowly bruce stops typing and leans back from the computer#he freezes#eyes widening#a soft but sharp intake#oh#yea oh B geeze you must be tired if it took this long for you to get ut#bruce with his head in his hands realising he just messed up big time#maybe he should get more sleep after all#as for the mcu I would like to think it was hawkeye or hulk#I like hulk cause it’s also a bruce but I like hawkeye more. guy is very comfort character#clint just kid I saw you die now why don’t you explain that#danny giving him nothing till clints like come on it’s kinda messed up letting me think I let a kid die isnt it.#oh poor me loosing so much sleep watching a young boy become a ghost. I could hardly go on#danny rolls his eyes laying it on a little thick arent we old man#gasp! I will have you know I am only (insert haskeyes age here)#geeze you are waaayyy okder than I thought
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I'm doomed by BATLANTERN.
I don't know how it happened they are one thing swear, I came to stay. I'm not afraid, the ring chose me!!!!
#batlantern#sorry for the bad lantern ring joke#I rarely ship Batman/Bruce with someone for like Talia and Selina though I just sigh and bear with it whatever canon it is#Don't ask me how else I came to stay#batman#green lantern#hal jordan#bruce wayne#i have a vision#i love this ship sm#ao3#doomed yaoi#dc comics#dc ships#bruhal#batman x green lantern#shipping#heroes#batfamily#DC#friend to lovers
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What about combining Fae Dick and Eldritch Jason?
Except, Bruce is genuinely clueless. He thinks both his kids are baseline human - guy has no clue how normal kids work, lol.
So when Jason 'dies', Dick is mad at Bruce for letting it deteriorate that far, but he isn't too grieved. He knows Jay will turn up sooner or later, the only question is how pissed he is going to be.
That's the main reason Dick staying back to support Bruce doesn't work - Bruce can tell Dick isn't anywhere near as cut up as he should be over his kid brother dying. He acts the part really well, but Bruce has known him for years and can tell when he's faking grief...
Now I can’t help but imagine Bruce and Alfred brokenly telling Dick about Jason, and Dick just being like “oh boy, ohhhhhh boy, that’s just… super inconvenient. Like, it couldn’t have come at a worse time.”
Alfred: … young sir, this is a shock, but we must all stick-
Dick: well duh it’s a shock, he’s been badgering me about the play at the theater next week for three months now. Do you have any idea how pissed he’ll be that he’s gonna miss it?
Alfred:… I’m not sure you understand the gravitas of the situation. Perhaps we should call Miss canary to-
Dick: oh I understand alright. You have any idea how much time Jay’s been spending on the upkeep of his body? Called me vain when he spent at least two hours each day arranging each atom to conform to human growth norms. The audacity. But no, seriously, he’s going to be so pissed…
#Bruce and Alfred totally think Dick is in denial#or just plain up never cared about Jason at all#meanwhile dick: ok I think I gotta take care of Joker or my pretty forest is in danger#also wenn he collection of teeth#Jason is petty enough to eat them if he feels Dick didn’t properly avenge him#*sigh*#fae dick grayson#eldritch jason todd
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Tim suffers from a situation where he occasionally commits thought crime (thinks about how killing someone would be easier/how he would like someone to be dead/plans out how to kill someone) but does the right thing in person, and doesn't kill people and will act heroically to save even the lives of villains and people he hates. Which gets him cancelled as lacking in morals and being 'two seconds from killing at any time'. While someone like Jason, who commits actual crimes in person but validates the reasons for doing it in his head, gets lauded for why killing drug dealers is excellent and should be morally correct.
Maybe it's a bit law and justice and rules follower of me, but thinking the bad thoughts and still doing the right thing is a better approach than doing the bad thing while telling yourself it's for the right reasons actually.
Actions are more important than what you say in the privacy of your own mind. That's the bit other people can see and interpret.
#am I annoyed at yet another round of 'Tim would kill everyone in a second' jokes#when he's the only character who gets what is canonically a known bad alternate future attributed to be his morality#have you looked closely at Batman 666 for Damian is all I'm saying#because that's exactly the same sort of bad future#or how many Dick Elseworlds just involve Dick taking people out (The New Order; DC v Vampires; etc)#let alone (sigh) Bruce and just for starters everything about the Dark Multiverse
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headcanon that tim is the most emotionally mature and competent of all the robins but he doesn't seem like it because he is best at examining and identifying his emotions and what's causing them and stuff, but he just doesn't. He starts to feel any kind of big emotion and he's like 'nope, not doing that right now' and he packs it up in a mental box and puts it away to be thought about later (he never thinks about it later). Like he could sit and think for five minutes and have such a deep understanding of himself but he just says 'no thanks' instead.
#its extremely unheathly#he explains this to dick and dick is deeply concerned#tim explains this method to his therapist and the therapist just sighs deeply#he explains to bruce and bruce is just like 'thats sounds about right'#tim drake#red robin#batfam#mine
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Damian definitely gives off ‘my father will hear about this’ vibes. And his family definitely lets him know it when they do a harry potter marathon
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Damian: why do you all keep looking at me when malfoy speaks?!
Jason: hmmm idk… but does it. aggravate you?
Damian: YES
Tim: will perhaps your. father hear about this?
Damian: *unintelligible angry noises*
#bruce just sighs and shakes his head#incorrect batbros#damian wayne#jason todd#dick grayson#tim drake#batbros#batman#bat brothers#batfam#batfamily#incorrect batman quotes#incorrect batfamily quotes
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You made the unexpected turn into Trolls and i decided it looked interested and followed you! Still haven’t actually watched anything, just kinda immersed myself in the fandom.
the trolls world is just ripe for nonsensical world building, amvs (we callin them fancams now? i'm not sure), and lore mechanics... and then shockingly, trauma dives.
like! because of the kind of media it's in, there are some horrific and tragic implications that are only glanced at, simply left untethered. there's not enough time to cover 2 decades of trauma in an hour thirty minutes for little timmy. But I Have The Time. I will sit with those implications.
and then!!
they get to have their cake and eat it too because of that very same media.
of course they're going to be dancing and singing with the people who only seconds ago tried to eat them! that's just what you do!
of course they're going to tell the people torturing them to death that they deserve to be treated with kindness! everybody does!
the picture it paints for me is of these like. incredibly anxious little trolls, with a whole culture around an almost toxic kind of positivity with very big troubles, and even bigger hearts. and that's like. joey kryptonite. they almost got me back in the first film, but i was mostly satisfied with the character arcs. so i didn't feel the need to break out the fandom playdough.
and then the third one came in with a steel chair like 'hey what if branch was just one part of an entire tragic family. what if they ALL had decades of trauma because of a bad decision they made as teenagers, which permanently skewed the trajectory of their lives. what if they needed some space to define themselves outside of their Band Titles (and by proxy their role in the family) and were then punished for that decision by the narrative, denying them the chance to reunite again. what if a promise sat forcefully broken for just as long and yet the bond didn't disintegrate. what if the love was still there.'
and i never stood a chance
#joey babbles#anon#trying to get back into the groove of being unhinged about fandom things on main#even if there isn't always art attached#sighs.#like yeah that the heck#did not expect these kind of intense emotions from the glitter fart series#JD experiencing the horror of the troll tree being empty#bruce having to grapple with the idea of putting down roots somewhere else. just hoping that this time - they're not yanked out of the dirt#clay and viva trying help a group of frightened survivors prepare a space/method to trap and kill their pursuers. liKE YIKES#floyd with [REDACTED]#branch wearing the vest for all three movies. OH my god....#trolls
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The Bat-Family’s utility belts but they’re like Mary Poppins’s bag and they just pull out a lamb out of that tiny pocket somehow.
#‘I wish we had a stroller right now’ says Clark one time while carrying a baby they just saved#and Bruce promptly pulls out a giant stroller from that little teeny tiny mini pocket on his waist#every time a new hero teams up with one of them they’re just absolutely confuddled but the day oners just sigh and tell them to get used to#it and not to question it because literally NO ONE knows and it’s been over three decades for some#dc comics#comics#batfam#robin#batgirl#batman#nightwing#redhood#spoiler#dick grayson#bruce wayne#jason todd#damian wayne#tim drake#stephanie brown#dcu#mary poppins
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i think it would have been funny if tim, after discovering his bisexuality and thinking that was the 'unique feature' he brought to his iteration of robin, mentioned this to the rest of batfam, only to find out they've all been some degree of queer this whole time.
#jason would be bewildered#and then has to ask tim how he DIDNT know. because jason's pretty notorious for having boyfriends that cause issues for the family business#ie: having them all on social lockdown for WEEKS after jason decided his current relationship was serious enough for him to reveal#himself as robin... he broke up with that guy less than a month later#and dick never let him live it down#and then they have to have the bruce conversation with him#which pretty much shocks tim beyond what he thought his body was capable of handling#“i thought.. he just didn't ever have a girlfriend because of the whole batman thing?????”#dick would recount it to bruce later on and he'd just sigh#this is all in my head again guys ignore me#jason todd#dick grayson#tim drake#red robin#nightwing#red hood#batman#bruce wayne#batfamily#batfam#robin#dc comics#dc#gothihop speaks
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hc that one thing everyone in the batfamily knows without doubt is: alfred knows everything. hidding anything from alfred is a waste of time and energy, because he always just knows. so they simply don’t. they dont need to tell him, but they dont need to hide it, he always knows anyways.
however, the thing is alfred is just a regular old man who spends all of his time cleaning, cooking and making sure they dont die. he doesnt have time to be figuring out what the bat ninjas he has for a family is hidding so most often than not he doesnt know. it doesnt help that no one in the family ever tells him anything, because they expect him to just know. he just has a really really good poker face and an inability to be surprised by much so everyone just assumes he already knew once he discovers anything.
#alfred pennyworth#batman#batfam#he also doesnt know the batfam believe he knows everything#and he is really tired of being the last one to find out literally anything about their lives#bruce didnt even told him about batman#he found out a few weeks after on one of the first particularly bad nights where bruce just crashed on his bed wearing the batsuit#he blinked twice and then told bruce to remember to wear proper sleepwear next time#he found the batcave one day when he was cleaning and bruce just walked by him and walked in the cave#the sigh he left after realizing he had more to clean couldve heard from space#at some point much much later he started assuming every minor under their roof was just another child of bruce#(to be fair that is correct like 85% of the time so his logic is pretty solid)#he is convinced he is the grandfather of at least two heros in any superhero/vigilante group that existed#the batfamily needs better conversational skills#batfamily#robin#batgirl#dc#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#stephanie brown#cassandra cain#duke thomas#damian wayne#bruce wayne#dc titans#teen titans#young justice#dc outlaws
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Do you think that Bruce, having lost his parents very early, has a very romanticized view of his own parents? You know, when you're a kid you remember something like that but... Things sometimes are not like they looked like. I ask this because more and more adaptations are appearing in which Bruce's parents were not nice to him or were even criminals. And to a certain extent, I kind of like it because most of the rich people in Gotham are criminals to some extent and I kept wondering why the Wayne's were so good... But I don't know if that's the case in the comics' Canon timeline.
Oh yeah I definitely think Bruce idealizes his parents, and especially his father. Multiple canonical comics have shown that his parents weren't perfect, not by a long shot; they loved Bruce, but they were also busy people with issues of their own. Meanwhile, Bruce was clearly an anxious child, deeply affected by his parents' occasional neglect... and his father, Thomas, didn't much like Bruce being so "emotional". There's more than one comic in which Thomas scolds Bruce for it, and Bruce has reactions that speak so much towards a desperate need for validation from him. Let's just say, it makes a lot of sense to me that Bruce ended up exhibiting certain toxic behaviors towards his own children. And that he internalized an idea of masculinity and fatherhood that's not the healthiest, either. Someone recently asked me about Bruce's traumas in childhood, and you'd be surprised how many are connected to his parents, and specifically Thomas; here's a link if you're curious (I cite many sources for the examples above).
Overall I'd say that in canon, Thomas and Martha Wayne aren't downright shitty horrible parents, or anything of the sort. Yeah, other adaptations basically made them criminals or abusive, and suggested that Bruce just repressed the bad memories or overwrote them (like in Batman: Damned, for example) but... I think the current picture suggested by canon is more compelling. Bruce's parents loved him and they tried their best to be good to him, but they were also flawed. The darkness that Bruce exhibits on more than one occasion was there in them too, as multiple alternate Universes show. Flashpoint has Martha turn into the Joker and Thomas into a brutal and unforgiving Batman. Batman/Superman #18 shows us a world in which Thomas was killed, but Bruce and Martha survived, with Martha establishing herself as a powerful person in Gotham's underworld, targeting criminals and villains because of her obsession for keeping Bruce safe. And I think all this is how it should be, Bruce's parents should be portrayed as complex individuals with a darker side too, simply because reacting to his parents' murder the way Bruce did isn't something anyone would do. For him to react so strongly, to dedicate his life to never healing and refusing to let go... tragically, it makes so much sense that before all that, Bruce deeply craved his parents' love and affection, but wasn't getting it enough. It makes sense that, if you take a child with insecure attachment who's already deeply hurt by any sign of neglect from his parents, and you have his parents die in front of him-- the ultimate form of being left behind, being abandoned-- he wouldn't respond in the healthiest of ways. It follows that he'd end up defining himself by that trauma, and forever fear loss.
#[sigh] there's a reason the Batfam is so big after all#man's need for connection is a black hole that never gets filled#it's only equal to his fear of losing the connections he creates. hence the seemingly contradictory reality#of Bruce having so many people around him but being so distant and avoidant#Bruce's character at the end of the day is just. 'fear of loss vs. fear of being alone: FIGHT'#asks#bruce wayne meta#bruce wayne#batman#my meta
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HC that during Tim's time as Robin, Bruce was working a late night case so Tim brought him coffee and complimented him on a breakthrough.
And Bruce responds with, "Thanks, dad"
The two of them don't talk to each other for the rest of the night.
#Tim mocks him all the time by saying 'thanks dad' randomly and Bruce just sighs tiredly#tim drake#bruce wayne#tim drake headcanon#bruce wayne headcanon#batfam shitpost#batfam shenanigans
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Jason opens his mouth to retort when his phone starts ringing.
And not any kind of ringing, no. It’s the fucking Spooky-Scary-Skeletons song.
This is a goddamn nightmare. He should have stayed in bed.
He has exactly two options.
One, not pick up.
Which would be a good option, the best option, if it were anybody else. Because Jason knows the fucker isn’t above trying to ring up the manor itself if he feels slighted.
Two, pick up. And suffer the most awkward birthday congratulations since… well, last year.
Jason glares at each and every curious Bat watching him from the sofa as he excuses himself and heads into the hall, pressing the green button with a long suffering sigh.
“What?”
“It has come to my attention that you have not yet contacted my daughter for your name day well wishes.“
Jason thunks his head against the wall.
“I’m busy.”
“I am aware,” Ra’s says smoothly, and Jason just knows the bastard is stirring his sinfully expensive blend of tea with some golden spoon, “And yet this has not stopped you before.”
“Is there a point to this call?”
“Yes. Do make sure to call my daughter soon. She is being quite insufferable.”
Righteous indignation rises inside Jason like hot coals.
“She isn’t—“
“She has disposed of three potential tutors since this morning,” Ra’s cuts him off, and Jason’s mouth snaps shut, “Yes, I do consider this to be insufferable. And your brother has brought it to my attention that the likely cause of her irritability is your lack of communication.”
“I’m busy.” Jason repeats, but it sounds petulant even to his own ears, “Look, I’ll call her as soon as I get out of here, ok?”
“Make sure that you do. Finding instructors is a difficult enough task without my daughter culling half their numbers before they even stepped across the threshold.”
“Maybe mom wouldn’t have to dispose of them if they were skilled enough to evade her.”
“Oh, some of them were,” Ra’s says drily, “But it proved to be for naught when she decided the your brother’s pets hadn’t had enough sustenance for the day.”
…so, maybe Jason should have called.
— silly little outtake of chpt X of What You’re Longing For (you claim to abhor)
#what you’re longing for you claim to abhor#silly little comedy outtake#I’m almost sad it ended up being to cracky to keep in the story#oof#I just wanted to include good grandpa Ra’s#but suddenly it turned into a sitcom#*sigh*#jason todd#batfamily#batfam#dick grayson#bruce wayne#robin#tim drake#red hood#Damian wayne#fic#fic rec#snippet#Drabble#sneak peek#outtake#ra’s al ghul#talia al ghul#batdad#batbros#bat boys
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wait sorry i'm still thinking about fanon and the "no metas in gotham" thing and i have to dunk on bruce in sb94 #85 for a second. every time i think abt this line i just
this is one of the most egregious issues re: bruce being shitty about metas. it's also frankly kind of ooc in that... like. this guy? is supposedly friends with superman? and wonder woman? etc? lol? but in the doylist context, it's simply that batman is being written antagonistically, to show kon being a good friend to cass by standing up to him when he's being an asshole.
that being said. it's absolutely wild to me that there are people who act like bruce being an anti-meta prejudiced raging asshole is a chill and normal quirky trait that's perfectly acceptable when even when it's shown up in canon, it's received pushback immediately from characters around bruce:
or like in batgirl (2000) when he's being controlling over cass, clark shows up to tell him like. dude. chill the fuck out.
idk where i'm going with this exactly, i guess i'm just kinda thinking of how [white] fandom often does not engage with the implications of forms of bigotry that don't have 1:1 parallels in reality. like yeah metahumans don't exist in real life but. i'm sorry man but a man telling his prized possession of a daughter "i don't want you near his kind" re: a boy he considers dangerous is... not the sort of thing that exists in a vacuum. like... does the racism metaphor really have to be spelled out even more blatantly than that for people to realize it's, like. right there??
and i mean. i don't think the people going "oh lol bruce hates metas XD and everyone in the batfam is just chill with that haha" are intending to be like "yeah bruce is a racist dickwad and the rest of the bats are chill with that". i don't think they even realize that the way bruce, when written as being anti-meta, speaks about metas has direct parallels to real-world racist arguments. but that's also kinda the exact problem. why do you not realize this...
#rimi talks#this is the crux of my issue with the ''people can turn off their critical thinking brains if they just want to have fun!!!!'' thing#bc that turns into WHITE ppl can turn off their critical thinking for fun.#the rest of us get to see white people going haha batman sounding like bob ewell!! how fun and quirky!! and just. sigh#this is rambly and disjointed im sure i could articulate it better if i wasnt migrainey today but alas.#kon#bruce#cass
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