#american bbc ghosts

[ghostyclay]

I just started watching the amrican adaptation of bbc ghosts and i fucking hate it.

Especially Isaac. He replaces the Captain as the new gay character who's in the military. However, unlike the Captain, being gay becomes his whole personality. Every joke turns into "oh, haha, get it, he's feminine because he's gay!!!".

The reason i loved the Captain so much, was because he WASN'T a stereotypical depiction of a gay man. He technically fit male gender roles (strong, authoritarian, stern, fit, literally in the military) despite being queer. Sure, there's jokes about him finding men attractive, but they are the same as the jokes about Thomas's crush. He doesn't get turned into some stereotypical caricature of a gay guy. He has a couple moments like that, like when he played the fairy godmother, but he doesn't constantly get portrayed as feminine just because he's gay.

Isaac however? Any joke related to him is tied to him being gay. Even the military stuff. He finds out that Hamilton is way more famous than him, and of course, the thing that bothers him the most it that there's a musical about him. (get it? Because obviously gay men love musicals. And girls like pink and boys like blue.) Hell, even when he sits, he does exaggerated fem poses.

Especially with the American adaptation, it just feels like they turned an amazing depiction of a queer character, with a personality outside of their queerness, into a very flat and stereotyped one.

I don't mind fem depictions of gay men. There IS gay men, who behave exactly like Isaac. And, this is a comedy show that relies on stereotypes: all ghosts are some sort of stereotype.

However, I'm sick of media trying to frame it as "gay man = feminine". There's so, so many queer characters who are portrayed as inherently "different". In so many shows, lesbians are always butch and gay men always feminine and it's framed in a way that suggests that they are gnc BECAUSE of their queerness, and not in addition to it, and i hate it.

Its just a way to enforce gender roles despite queer identities. Because if a woman likes other women, that must mean shes similar to a man, right?

What about straight gnc characters. Why do we rarely see cishet characters break gender roles, without it being depicted as something bad? (the few examples of gnc characters in popular media that i can think of, are like, guys who out on a dress and got made fun of because of it.)

Can we please stop with the whole "boys are blue, pinks are girls and queer people are gnc!" shit? It's really annoying. And it frames queerness as something different, something that fundementally changes/affects a person's whole personality. Like seriously. Do you not think that the depiction of "same gender attraction = your whole personality is different" is really really fucking weird? I know that it has historical context and everything, because many gay man do behave stereotypically feminine (either as a subtle hint at their queerness, or just because they are already a "deviation" from the norm, so why not say fuck you to the whole system and live your life however you want?) but. But please please please stop pretending like queer people are inherently different from cishets. That just gives people an excuse to be homophobic.

(feel free to add your own take, im sure there's plenty of other interesting perspectives on this that are different from mine, but be nice about it! I wanna have a discussion, not an argument.)

[icarusdiesatdawn]

WAS ANYONE GONNA TELL ME THEY ARE MAKING A GERMAN GHOSTS SERIES OR???????????

[scrimbly-mc-scrombly-iii]

some video essays I thought were really good/interesting (tagging the fandoms and movies involved)

The Postmodern Horror of TikTok’s Encanto Discourse

How the Music Spoils Sweeny Todd (and why that’s a good thing!)

The Lion King 1 1/2: Judaism, White Pride, and Paranoia

Monsters University and Disability

The Trans Boy Meets World Episode

The Queer Subtext of American Psyco

Women are Meat | Silence of the Lambs is a a movie about Womanhood

The anti-establishment undertones of Horrible Histories

The Internet Folklore of Creepypastas

Unpacking Moral Orel | An Under-appreciated Masterpiece

How Doki Doki Literiture Club Perfected Psychological Horror

Puss in Boots and the Three Villain Types

Images that Make You Kill Yourself

Issac Higgintoot: lost in adaptation (note: this one is about BBC Ghosts btw.)

Did FNAF Ever Have a Good Story?

[natjennie]

i dont have this as a coherent argument but there's something about bbc ghosts that is just so much more. genuine? than the american one. and I only watched like 2 episodes of the cbs one but still. to me i think it suffered from that marvel-ification "he's behind me isnt he?" wink wonk cheesy like. exaggeration in a way that wasnt purposeful or sincere. the whole everyone is beautiful and no one is horny situation. whereas in bbc ghosts the whole show is a little bit rough around the edges and ugly and imperfect in a way that makes it infinitely more endearing. I'd rather watch a theater production where someone occasionally misses a cue but the people care and have something to say, rather than a perfectly airbrushed and photoshopped one that talks a lot and says nothing. yknow?

[player188654]

Years ago I orphaned my entire ao3 page (like 40ish fics) and to this day I regret it

[jewishdragon]

im still here

kinda been doing a lot of self care the last week for obvious reasons

but also focusing on my phd work

anyways im gonna binge the american version of BBC ghosts

[pebble-person]

Tried watching the American version of Ghosts again. It's worse. Definitely worse. But in, like, an *insulting* way. They removed every subtlety! Do they think my American brain was incapable of comprehending that Captain was in the closet without him making stereotypical jokes about it every three sentences??? And they made Fanny younger and "hotter". For why? Hhh. Agh. Argh. I need to make art of the original BBC series.

I miss Kittie.

I'm gonna draw Kittie.

[plainlyraine]

"This fic was written by an american," I whisper, reading about gay british people

Little does the trash goblin in my brain know,

I am also an american

[sparemintss]

chat,,,, hear us out. Canadian Ghosts. CBC Ghosts. give me a sitcom with a Canadian Filipino from the 30s or 60s. give me more indigenous ghosts (Ojibwe, Anishnaabe, Metis, Cree, Haudenosaunee , LITERALLY ANY IM ONLY NAMING ONTARIO NATIONS BECAUSE I LIVE IN ONTARIO) rep. give me a wwi captain who is the reason why the geneva conventions were put in the first place. give me a fuckass quebecer, one trudeau lookin ass motherfuck.

GIVE IT TO MEEEEEEE . CBC LISTEN TO ME AND DONT MAKE IT OFFENSIVE .

[yonderghostshistories]

Idk yesterday I got bored and decided to take pics of my 2 bookshelves (from the main living room and the middle room respectively) filled to the brim with books, DVDs and CDs (among other things) that I own/have got, and then I thought it’d be cool to show y’all my lovely collection of things.

Here’s my 2 Exquisite Collection of Things I have (mostly consisting of my special interests, both former and current <33)

(From the Main Living Room shelf)

Items Found:

Specific Labels for the things which are featured on my shelves :

(F) = Films

(TVS/MS) = TV Series/Miniseries

(CD) = Compact Disc(/s) (aka CDs)

(CT) = Cassette Tape(/s)

(B) = Books(/s)

(LP) = Live Performance

(Z) = Zine(/s)

#1 : (from top - bottom) (Left; Top Shelf)

DVDs including; “American Friends” (1991) (F), “Holy Flying Circus” (2011) (F), “In The Earth” (2021) (F), “A Field in England” (2013) (F), “A Liar’s Autobiography” (2012) (F), “Remember Me” (2014) (TVS/MS), “Vanity Fair” (2018) (TVS/MS)

#2 : (Middle; Top Shelf) “Torchwood : Tropical Beach Sounds & Other Relaxing Seascapes #4” (2020) (CD)

#3 : (from top - bottom) (Right; Top Shelf) DVDs including; “Psychoville” (2009-2011) (TVS/MS), “The League of Gentlemen: Live Again!” (2018) (F) (LP), “The League of Gentlemen Are Behind You!” (2006) (F) (LP), “The League of Gentlemen’s Apocalypse” (2005) (F), “The League of Gentlemen: Live At Drury Lane” (2001) (F) (LP), “The League of Gentlemen : The Complete Collection” (1999-2017) (TVS/MS)

#4 : (from top - bottom) (Left; Bottom Shelf) Books including; “A Kind of Spark” by Elle McNicoll (B), “My So-Called Bollywood Life” by Nisha Sharma (B), “Submarine” by Joe Dunthorne (B), “Baby Love” by Jacqueline Wilson (B), “The League of Gentlemen : A Local Book for Local People) (B) (a Tie-in Book for the TV show), “Ghosts : The Button House Archives” (B) (a Tie-in Book for the TV show)

#5 : (Bottom) (Right; Bottom Shelf)

“Be Funny Or Die” by Joel Morris (B)

(From the Middle Room Shelf)

#1 : (from top - bottom) (Left; Top Shelf) CDs & DVDs including; “Spot The Loony” (2015) (CD), “Spot The Loony” (2001) (CD), “Shanghai Knights” (2003) (F), “Harlots” (2017-2019) (TVS/MS), “Imagine Me & You” (2005) (F), “Monty Python : The Movies” (2006) (F), “Monty Python’s Flying Circus : The Complete Series 1-4 (1969-1974) Fully Restored in HD” (2019) (TVS/MS), “Queer As Folk : Definitive Collector’s Edition” (1999-2000)(TVS/MS)

#2 : (from top - bottom) (Right; Top Shelf) Books including; “Graham Crackers : Fuzzy Memoirs, Silly Bits and Outright Lies” by (Monty Python’s) Graham Chapman (compiled by Jim Yoakum) (B), “The Life of Graham : The Authorised Biography of Graham Chapman” by Bob McCabe (B), “Calcium Made Interesting : Sketches, Letters, Essays & Gondolas” by (Monty Python’s) Graham Chapman (edited by Jim Yoakum) (B), “OJRIL : The Completely Incomplete Graham Chapman (Unpublished Scripts by Monty Python’s Pipe-Smoking Genius)” by Graham Chapman (edited by Jim Yoakum) (B), “Ghosts : Brought to Life (The Making of a Classic)” (a BTS Tie-in book for the TV Show and that looks into the making of the show itself) (B), “There and Back : Diaries 1999-2009 (Volume #4)” by Michael Palin (B)

#3 : (top & across) (Left; Bottom Shelf)

Includes; “Peter Falk Tries on Hats” (a Zine about Peter Falk) by Ren Wednesday (Z), The Michael Palin Diaries Volumes #1-#3 (in chronological order; “The Python Years : Diaries 1969-79 (Volume #1)”, “Halfway to Hollywood : Diaries 1980-88 (Volume #2)”, “Traveling to Work : Diaries 1988-98 (Volume #3)”) (B)

#4 : (top - bottom) (Middle; Bottom Shelf) Books, Zines & DVDs including; “The Little Guide to Monty Python” (B), “High Precision Ghosts” (a Zine about Graham Chapman) by Ren Wednesday (Z), “A Liar’s Autobiography: Volume VI (#6)” by Graham Chapman (B), “A Liar’s Autobiography” the audiobook cassette tape from the 1980s, recorded by Graham Chapman (CT), “Medieval Lives” by Terry Jones & Alan Ereira (B) (a Tie-in book for the TV show), “Erebus : The Story of A Ship” by Michael Palin (B), “Spy” (2011-2012) (TVS/MS), “Murder Rooms : The Mysteries of The Real Sherlock Holmes” (2000-2001) (TVS/MS), “The Pythons Autobiography By The Pythons” by Bob McCabe (B), “Great Uncle Harry : A Tale of War and Empire” by Michael Palin (B)

#5 : (side and top - bottom) (Right; Bottom Shelf) Side (DVDs) includes; Hunderby (Series 1) (2012) (TVS/MS), Hunderby (Series 2) (2015) (TVS/MS)

Top - Bottom (DVDs) including; “(Monty Python’s) Graham Chapman : Looks Like A Brown Trouser Job” (2005) (F) (LP), “Mongrels” (2010-2011) (TVS/MS), “Romance With A Double Bass” (1974) (F), “Simon Magus” (1999)/“The Nine Lives Of Tomas Katz” (2000) (F), “Bunny And The Bull” (2009) (F), “Treacle Jr” (2010) (F), “The Taming Of The Shrew” (1980) (F), “It’s A Sin” (2021) (TVS/MS), “Do Not Adjust Your Set” (1967-1969) (TVS/MS), “At Last The 1948 Show” (1967) (TVS/MS), “The Terror” (Series 1 & 2) (2018-2019) (TVS/MS)

Anyway, that’s it for what’s on my shelves!! Do let me know y’all’s thoughts on my shelves full of stuff, and let me know which is your personal favourite thing(/s) from my shelves and why!!

[roseofithaca]

Thomas: I just listened to one of those Suffragette speeches! Did you know that women are told by society what they can and can't do?! Just like I was told I couldn't perform my poetry to the King!

Thomas: Mary, have you ever considered what it must be like to live as a woman?! The challenges those poor creatures face?!

Mary:

[ineffablelunatic]

"I study AP Lit"

"I study AP Biology"

Yeah well I study AP Havers

[naughtylilotter]

so distraught that i decided to speed-binge through bbc ghosts bc i wanna watch it again but it's literally too fresh.. i should have savoured it ;_;