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Laios gets a new perspective on Chilchuck's scars
it's done! I hope you like it!!
!! If you're interested in more scarred Chilchuck content, please check out the amazing fanfic by @turtles-allthewaydown aka smallwars on Ao3, "To The Dogs" right here !!
I started this comic and then while scrolling through tumblr I found their fic link and couldn't believe how on the same wavelength it was lol. My comic holds no relevancy to this fic, they just coincidentally have very similar themes. (Though i did add the canine bite scars inspired by the fic, so there's that)
(okay that's the imporatnt stuff, now a warning for infodump incoming abt my thoughts on scarred Chilchuck lore)
the fact that Halffoots would be used as bait for monsters has been haunting my brain since I heard it. All I could think about was how long Chilchuck has been an adventurer and how even the parties that didn't use halffoots as bait probably weren't that careful with them. Chilchuck gets so defensive about and is constantly reminding people that he doesn't fight, a habit that definitely didn't spring up outta nowhere, and we know he's gotten hurt and/or died plenty of times just disarming traps.
Falin is a talented healer, but not everyone is as good as her and scars would linger. Perhaps the healer wouldn't prioritize him because of their opinion of halffoots, or seeing picklocks as unnecessary. Or since healing is fueled by calories and Chilchuck canonically doesn't eat very much to remain underweight, his body is more difficult to fully heal. Thus >> more scars than the others
But Laios always saw Chilchuck as an equal, he saw picklocks as necessary, valued his skill, and respected his need to stay out of combat. So it probably wouldn't occur to him that other tallmen didn't behave that way, also him growing up around hunters who were scarred and being a fighter he'd probably not linger much on them at first.
Senshi would pick up on it right away though given he expects based on Chil's height that he's a kid.
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watching the anime because i can't concentrate enough to write but. no one's voice actors match how i picture them lmao. although sungwon cho is damn close and putting his whole dick into it so no complaints there
#although i'll be honest. chilchuck is probably accurate i just picture him sounding more middle aged lmao#halflings would sound like that. im in denial tho#mylife#im also pretty sure prozd's narrating the show lmao and he's doing well at that#i am coming around the chilchuck because like. i mean it is accurate. and funny#no wonder senshi thought he was just a kid#dunmesh
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I like your post about chilchucks marriage a lot!! I just wanted to give my personal opinion on how I see it.
Even tho chilchuck is mature enough to admit when he's wrong, I would say that he's not very good at telling people just how much he cares about them. Even if he does work and acts of service that prove his love, he still routinely fails to verbally or physically show love to others. So personally I wouldn't blame his wife for leaving, to her it was probably : my husband gets hurt -> he's never home to help me with 3 kids -> he never tells me he loves me and doesn't hold me -> this isn't a good fit for either of us.
I also think we as the reader have the advantage of knowing the person chilchuck has grown to be post divorce, we have very little insight into how he was before he was blindsided. And I would assume being left alone had a big impact on who he is now and that he probably changed quite a bit in that time, he grew because he had to become his new self on his own, and that new self had to be someone who would serve his needs post divorce and learn from his mistakes.
that makes sense, I think especially his difficulty expressing his care through normal ways is probably a part of it. (though I wanna correct that like based on the troll excerpt and other material we see w them, it seems like he was there to raise the kids. Marcille’ s vision of him not being around often was based on the fact that she’s only known him after he had nothing tethering him down anymore, and thought his kids were way younger than they were)
The thing is she definitely knows he loves her, and given their relationship, almost certainly is very familiar and not too bothered by The Way He Is. The way I see it, it’s more like:
life with best friend turned husband going great -> our kids move out -> he starts taking more jobs, leaving longer, and is always coming back in a horrible state -> these days I worry if he’ll make it back, and he’s cagey about what he’s even doing -> his habit of being very closed off is quickly going from endearing to frustrating -> the meeting his coworkers only made me more uneasy (could be because his coworkers were sleazy, or because she felt like they knew him better than she did) -> things have changed -> you know what? Fine. I’ll leave, that’ll snap him out of it for sure.
#dungeon meshi#dungeon meshi spoilers#chilchuck#ask tag#My own feelings on it is that marcille got a lot of the barebones stuff right#but the details she added and feelings she projected onto Chilchuck’s wife#Were not accurate and were really more influenced by her being younger and less mature/experienced than Chil and his wife would’ve been#I think subconsciously he probably did get more hypersensitive to other peoples subtle signs that something was off#But I’m doubting he made any conscious effort to change and actually probably regressed as a person quite a bit following the abandonment#I’ve sort of covered my interpretation of their relationship in my comics before#I think very much that her leaving was largely an ignorant/selfish decision (for a fair reason but still)#Her not really thinking about how he’d feel for a variety of reasons#but I also think that when ppl take marcilles vision as accurate they sort of forget that#Chilchucks wife is a middle aged woman#Who’s known him her whole life#they’ve stuck by each other through thick and thin and had already raised three kids together#So I think her reasons for leaving were probably slightly more mature and pragmatic than marcilles story
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See the issue with trying to figure out chilchucks 'real/human age' via math is that it ignores the fact that that's not how biology works. the 'dog years' concept is not scientific or at all an accurate way to compare species ages
#rot posts#debated going into why its not accurate at all and is kinda a meaningless thing to try and 'convert' but#my phone died while writing the first attempt at this post and i dont feel like retyping it unprompted#hello i am irl laios in the sense that my autism is for knowing things and specifically about animals and how things work#and im tired of the like. age converting via math bc its not. how it works...#chilchuck isnt the equivalent of a irl human 35 or 33 or 50 year old or whatever and he literally cannot be#bc he 1. has not lived that many years and 2. isnt human and thus has different developmental milestones#this isnt meant to be like. angry specifically also im glad ppl are having fun im just intense about these things making sense.
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Broke: Chilchuck Tims is child coded.
Woke: Chilchuck Tims isn't child coded, he's a middle-aged, divorced man with grown up children.
Bespoke: Chilchuck Tims cannot be accurately described as either "child coded" or "not child coded" because he is a deliberate commentary on the idea of "child coding" itself.
Chilchuck, and half-foots in Dungeon Meshi in general, are given significantly more neotenous proportions and appearances (e.g. larger heads and eyes, rounder faces) than the other races. This is not universal for depictions of hobbits / halflings in Tolkien / D&D inspired fantasy fiction. Compare Chilchuck relative to the "tallmen" (humans) in Dunmeshi to how small races are drawn in something like Legend of Vox Machina (many of those characters are gnomes but whatever) or in basically any official D&D art. It was an intentional artistic decision to make him look like that. This is reinforced when he's temporarily transformed into a tallman (human) and in addition to becoming much taller he gains features that make him look more visibly middle-aged (stubble, eye bags / wrinkles, a more oval face) that he doesn't have as a half-foot. See also Marcille's transformed form and supplemental drawings of what all of the main party would look like as other races. However they do NOT look indistinguishable from actual children as portrayed by Dunmeshi's artstyle and have distinguishing features e.g. larger ears.
Chilchuck is frequently mistaken for a child in-universe, or treated / perceived as one even by members of other races who know he's a half-foot, and he hates this. His infantilization and that of half-foots in general isn't just a running gag, it's a significant plot point and source of discrimination. Like when the party gets impersonated by shapeshifters copying everyone based on the others' memories of them, and most of the Chilchuck clones look and behave more childish than the real one, and they almost get away with it, even though his party should know better than to think of him as a kid.
The narrative consistently takes the position that the people infantilizing Chilchuck are wrong, and are being ignorant/racist.
Conclusion: Chilchuck is definitely not "child-coded" in the way that a 700 year old shapeshifter that looks and behaves indistinguishably from a little kid for contrived reasons. However, he is intentionally designed to make it seem plausible for people who know he's an adult to still not fully believe it and this can make the viewers fall for it too. Which I guess is "child-coding" in a sense. But the message the work is trying to send is very clearly "Don't decide that grown-ass adults are equivalent to children and treat them like children because they have physical characteristics that remind you of a child you dipshit."
While hobbits aren't real and Chilchuck's traits that get him mistaken for a child are exaggerated compared to the vast, vast majority of real people, infantilization of grown-ass adults due to ableism, racism, or just people being dumbasses who forget short people exist is a real issue, and if you start shit with people for shipping Divorced Dad Chilchuck Tims with other characters or whatever you are displaying the exact attitude that's being criticized.
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Addendum to Dungeon Meshi Age Calculations, and Thistle's age estimate...
This is sort of a sequel to two posts of mine, How to Calculate Comparative Ages of DM Characters and How Old Is Thistle?
I've seen some people claim that the age scale between elves and tall-men where elves age 5 times slower than tall-men can't be used accurately for elves that are very young or very old. I've also seen people claim that the half-foot age modifier is wrong.
I'm not a mathematician, but so far I have not seen any actual evidence that the 5:1 scale doesn't work, and a good amount of proof that it does, and I think the confusion about half-foot aging is a translation issue.
Please keep in mind, information about Marcille's age does not apply to any of this, because [SPOILERS].
WHAT ABOUT VERY YOUNG ELVES?
Here's something we know about the babies from the different races, which comes from Ryoko Kui's blog:
1 year old elven, dwarven and gnomish babies can only lay on their backs. Tall-man and half-foot 1 year olds can both stand, though the tall-man is not as good at it as the half-foot.
This lines up with real-world development milestones, human children can usually stand on their own somewhere between 9 to 12 months. Half-foots age faster than tall-men, so it makes sense that the half-foot would look more balanced and steady while standing.
A 2 year old elven baby has just gained the ability to sit up, while the babies of other races are walking or running. Normal human babies can sit up with help at around 5 months.
2 divided by 5 equals 0.4, that's 40%, and 40% of one year equals 4.8666666 months. That's 5 months.
I think it's very likely Kui herself is using the 5:1 ratio in order to calculate her elven ages in order to get this very specific 5 month developmental milestone to line up this way. So we can confirm that any elf over the age of 2 years old should have an age that is calculable with the 5:1 ratio. I also think it's not crazy to assume Kui may be using the numbers I calculated in my age post to work out other character's ages as well, since she's clearly doing it for the elves.
LET'S TEST IT WITH HALF-FOOTS
Human children learn to run between 18 and 24 months, so around 2 years old, like the chart shows us. 2 years divided by the half-foot age ratio (1.1428571429) equals 175% because they grow faster than tall-men.
175% of 2 years is 1277.5 days... Which is 3.5 years. So a 2 year old half-foot has the maturity of a 3.5 years old human child. 3 years old is when human children are expected to run and jump easily, and climb stairs without help.
That sounds about right to me, since the half-foot child in the drawing looks like they can confidently run around without balance issues. One foot is off the ground, and their arms are pulled in closer to the body than the tall-man child's arms.
Meanwhile the tall-man child is more unsteady, both feet firmly planted, standing with their arms held out as far as they can go to help with balance.
DOESN'T 29=50 FOR HALF-FOOTS?
Kui says that Chilchuck would be about 50 if he were a modern day human (which he isn't, he's a medieval half-foot), and then she says that half-foots in the time of Dungeon Meshi only live to be about 50 years old on average.
I'm pretty sure she's telling us that if Chilchuck were a human in our world, he'd be past middle-aged, and then for contrast, she tells us that most half-foots in Chilchuck's world die by age 50. Not that Chilchuck's 29 years is equivalent to a 50 year old modern human.
Chilchuck is 29 years old, and he had his first child at age 13. The average age of death for half-foots is 50, then that means middle-aged for a half-foot is 25.
Chilchuck is 4 years older than that, which makes Chilchuck past middle-aged. It does not make him developmentally the same as a 50 year old modern human though.
Using the numbers I've worked out, a half-foot would be developmentally 50 years old when they're 44.
Kui says that although Chilchuck wants to retire from going into the dungeons, if he did, it would be premature... Just like it would be premature for a 33 year old to retire.
In the real world retirement ages are connected to the average age of death. As that number goes up, so does retirement age. Because modern humans live until around 72, as a global average, retirement age is somewhere in their 60s.
So since half-foots average lifespan is 50, a normal age for Chilchuck to retire would be in his 40s.
WHAT ABOUT OLD ELVES?
The average age of death for tall-men is 60, however we know that tall-men can live into their 80s because Marcille's father did.
The average age of death for elves is 400, but they can live up to 500 years.
There's no reason to think that DM tall-men aren't like real world humans, and can't live into their 100's if they are lucky and wealthy enough. Even in the real medieval period, some people lived into their early 100's.
The thing that makes average death ages low in real life is usually issues like high infant mortality, starvation, war, lack of medical care, and lack of sanitation.
In the real medieval period, the average age of death was 30 not because people dropped dead at 30, but because SO MANY children died young that it pulled down the average. In medieval times, if you managed to live to 25, you had an average of 23 more years of life ahead of you, which is 48 years old.
I think Kui raised the average death age to 60 for tall-men to account for the fact that even tall-men have access to more advanced medicine and healing magic in DM, so infant mortality isn't as high and the adults live more than a decade longer.
The elves naturally have a longer lifespan since they live 5 times slower than tall-men. However they also probably have a far more advanced society than any of the other races in Dungeon Meshi. Fleki calls the Eastern Continent a "primitive land", and it's mostly populated by dwarves, gnomes and tall-men.
If elven culture was developmentally the same as tall-man culture, I bet elves would only live to about 300, which would be 60 for them, maturity wise.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
80x5 is 400. That seems correct to me, a 400 year old elf would be considered elderly and getting close to the end of their life. An 80 year old tall-man would be considered VERY old, having lived past average expectations... But those expectations, as I said before, are based on poor living conditions, not biological certainty. 100x5 is 500, so the two maximum ages (100 and 500) also line up when you use the 5:1 ratio.
POSSIBLE MAXIMUM AGES FOR OTHER RACES
Using the same math, if gnomes and dwarves had the same culture as tall-men, they'd only live to be 150-ish instead of 240/200...
This is only a theory, but dwarvish and gnomish maximum possible ages should probably be around 250, if you multiply their age modifier (2.5) x100 like I did with the elves.
The current difference between their average age of death is probably attributable to lifestyle and cultural differences (gnomes use a lot more magic, and so they live longer).
Then, just to do the rest of the races:
Half-foots and orcs theoretical maximum age is 88. Ogres theoretical maximum age is 94. Kobold theoretical maximum age is 81.
Keep in mind, these numbers are based on the idea that "around 100 years old" is the oldest a human being can get. The oldest human to ever live survived until they were 122 years old... But obviously that is rare, and happened in the modern era.
Point is, there's wiggle room at the top end of the age limit, for some of the races that may be a matter of extra days or months, for others it could be an extra decade or two. But I'm using 100 for simplicity's sake.
Sorry for the long post! I hope this answers people's questions, and if I messed something up let me know!
#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#dunmeshi#theories#dungeon meshi and aging part 2#chilchuck#chilchuck tims
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I need someone to make a modern dunmeshi au but with everyone as like ,their "tall men"/Human ¿¿ versions, with their respective human ages and heights equivalent and everything. Why?? Biblically accurate chilshi. I just want tall face hair Chilchuck and Senshis 40-50yo exceptional Old Man Yaoi
#please#ill pay (broke)#chilshi#dunmeshi#if the phrasing is incomprehensible for this one im so sorry sometimes i dont know english#españoles ayudenme coño#senshi dungeon meshi#chilchuck dungeon meshi#senshi#chilchuck#senshi x chilchuck#dunmeshi au#dungeon meshi au
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I haven't seen anyone try and figure out which dopple-ganger/shapeshifter was created by each person in Laois party so here are my theories as to who I think each one was!
Starting with the Laois'! The tallest one I assume would be how Chilchuck sees Laois, he sees him as pretty capable in many aspects as a leader he just recognizes that Laois is a complete dolt when it comes to people.
The most clueless Laois would most likely be how Marcille views Laois as she's the one most freaked out about eating monsters and is constantly on edge about eating them moreso than Chilchuck.
That leaves the last Laois standing the leftmost of the panel, he generally respects Laois and probably finds Laois more pleasant than the others as he also enjoys cooking monsters as much as Senshi does so his version of Laois is more put together than the other Laois.
Next is Marcille!
This Marcille is definitely how Senshi views Marcille, he was already opposed to how carelessly Marcille uses magic disrupting the dungeons ecosystem. He was even more appalled knowing Marcille uses ancient magic.
My guess as to whose Marcille was eliminated in this round was Chilchuck's version of Marcille due to process of elimination. The only person who had looked deeply into Marcille's grimoire is Laois so it makes sense that his version of Marcille is the one with the more accurate grimoire and Laois was the least phased by the fact Marcille uses black magic.
Chucklefuck next!
The first Chilchuck and Senshi were eliminated instantly and found out to be Laois' version of them. Hilariously Laois finds Chucklefuck to be an angry and uptight fella.
The other versions of Chilchuck are harder to tell. My only guess to who sees Chucklefuck as a cutie is Marcille as she adores Chucklefuck and she's been around Chilchuck longer so she most likely knows how his tools look like? Then again there was the chapter with Senshi working with Chucklefuck so maybe he got a closer look at them then and Senshi see's him as a boy than the age he actually is. SIgh, this one could go to either member.
Alrighty! Last but not least Senshi!
The Senshi with the less accurate version of his pan and paddle is most likely Marcille's version of Senshi. She doesn't really help with cooking monsters so she doesn't see Senshi's utensils as much as the others.
That leaves handsome Senshi being Chucklefuck's version of Senshi. Especially since he was the one to point out the differences between Senshi and himself and then couldn't tell the difference between the real Senshi and Handsome Senshi. I guess Chucklefuck shares his daughter's admiration for dwarves haha
#marcille#laios touden#delicious in dungeon#marcille dunmeshi#laios dungeon meshi#senshi#dungeon meshi#chucklefuck#chilchuck tims#chilchuck#chilchuk dungeon meshi#delicous in dungeon#senshi dungeon meshi#dunmeshi#dunmeshi spoilers
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autism and media. spoilers for criminal minds, my hero academia, and dungeon meshi.
okay so, i'm an autistic person, and i've seen portrayals of autism (both implied and explicit) and they've had.. a range of quality overall.
in explicit examples, i've seen only a few. spencer reid comes to mind first- the autistic savant with an eidetic memory and a penchant for seeming robotic. i, personally, was heavily influenced by this guy- i did (and kind of still do) enjoy criminal minds after all. however, spencer's existence as one of the first explicitly autistic characters that was seen by a wider audience. the show was insanely popular, but in the later seasons (mainly after he was sent to prison) many of his autistic traits seem to fade away. of course, he is a traumatized man who was on high alert for a WHILE, but one would expect he wouldn't lose many of his core personality traits. personally, i think these were written out since his traits weren't seen as "popular", since autistic people can offend those they love or say the wrong thing on accident and it seemed too weird.
second, my hero academia. i don't think any of these characters are explicitly autistic, but i haven't watched in a while. mainly, i see deku and tamaki as autistic (although bakugo, aizawa, and shigaraki are.... suspicious) and i believe my views on these two are mainly influenced by the rest of the fandom, so here goes. overall, i think the characterization of these two lends itself directly to their emotional or anxious nature. most media i see with one or both of them severely dumbs them down to these traits, with tamaki getting the brunt of this treatment. most don't seem to remember that both of them are strong for their age, smart, and have faith in their quirks. even if tamaki might seem pessimistic about fights, he's just that- pessimistic. he's much more inclined to believe he'll lose because if he does, he's prepared to do what he can to help whoever comes after. deku is emotional, yes, but who wouldn't be? he's a teenager who's been told over and over again that he's a failure and he'll never achieve his dream, and suddenly, he's being helped by the #1 hero to become the person that he thought was unattainable. i think horikoshi's representation of them is alright, it's just mainly the fandom that compresses them into "uwu anxious cinnamon rolls too sweet for this earth" instead of remembering they're multifaceted characters, and damaging their own interpretations of real people in the process.
in dungeon meshi, i don't know if they're explicitly autistic (however laios and falin are HEAVILY HINTED AT so.) but the representation of autism here is incredible. in the series, we see laios fuck up with shuro (and, notably, we see the fandom sweep it under the rug because laios is white) while he has real, genuinely close relationships with others (marcille is like a sister to him, and chilchuck's his best friend) so we know he is a multifaceted character. he's also tied to the tendency of autistic people to be interested in fringe interests, or alterhuman circles. he thinks (like many others) that he's weird enough to people, so he throws all caution to the wind and goes all-in on being weird. i know that when i realized i was "too weird" for others, i just stopped caring, and that's how i got into many of my favorite things- like OFF, house of leaves, etc etc. if they thought i was weird then, i don't really want to know what they think i am now, especially since i'm out here playing obscure meta rpgs or reading books that require me to flip them around.
overall, i think the representations of autistic people in media have a long way to go. there is still a critical shortage of autistic poc in media, and many representations of autism are still influenced by the savant stereotype we see with spencer reid (see: the good doctor) and there's still a variety of symptoms that haven't been shown accurately yet. i'm very proud of where we've come, though- now, i can see an incredibly accurate portrayal of myself in laios, but there's still many autistic people who haven't seen someone they can relate to on the silver screen.
#waxing to you guys#autism#actually autistic#autistic things#autistic experiences#autistic community#laios touden#laios dungeon meshi#dunmeshi laios#delicious in dungeon laios#dunmeshi#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#criminal minds#spencer reid#spencer criminal minds#my hero academia#mha deku#bnha deku#deku midoriya#izuku mydoria#izuku midoriya#bnha izuku#bnha#mha#mha spoilers#boku no hero academia#tamaki amajiki#mha tamaki#bnha tamaki
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Marchil crumbs masterpost
Because I can and I will. Someone already made a tiny one way back but I lost it idk if it was here or on reddit… And we’re so small that we have no tag… I can’t credit you sorry marchil warrior you are not forgotten. I’ll definitely updating this whenever I find a new crumb. We’ve already reached the 30 pics cap part 2 coming soon. They do interact a ton I suppose. As always it’s not because I put moments on here that I’m saying they’re inherently romantic blablabla.
Part 2 - part 3 - part 4 - part 5 - part 6 - part 7
My vision: Unstoppable force vs immovable object. Corrupt (money) bitter divorcee and corrupt (magic) hopeless romantic. Emotional constipation vs emotional intelligence. Streets savvy vs prestigious academic. Girl with the longest lifespan possible who has trauma over loss x guy with the shortest lifespan who has trauma over past romance. They would take their romantic interest to the fricking grave. Halfling vs elf. Emotionally distant vs clingy and needy… Not that Chilchuck doesn’t seek her attention plenty ngl. By all means they are so incompatible and yet their dynamic is so delightful, opposites certainly do attract if Kui’s to be believed because these two constantly drift towards each other.
To me they're the embodiment of "If we want the rewards of being loved we have to submit to the mortifying ordeal of being known". Oh actually that'd apply to Laios and Dunmeshi as a whole as well-
She’s his worst nightmare. Opening up to someone?? The audacity to ask that of him. She raises his blood pressure to dangerous levels. He would risk his life for her.
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HIS WORST NIGHTMARE (what he needs). She's classified as a friend who won’t shut up btw Notice how on the dating sim chapter cover, the clicky hand is always on the choice he ended up choosing in canon except for two, Falin’s and Marcille’s. Meaning he may have hesitated on it, on telling her she was pretty? She’s front and center~
It’s notable that Marcille is the main victim of his teasing, he criticizes Laios and everyone plenty but teasing is done much more towards her than anyone else, and we can see that it is something he enjoys. Perhaps one of the things that put him in a good mood the most, besides alcohol and laughing at others in general lol. Here’s a post compiling a lot of that teasing: link
He often confronts her about things and teases/insults her but it's always without any real animosity, sometimes having problems with her actions but never disliking her.
She craves his approval? More likely than you think.
Chilchuck having a sparkly flustered Marcille on his mind and failing to pull her ponytail so she'd give him her attention the right way, then being devastated when she claps back lol. For as much as he teases her, she’s very much able to stand up for herself when it goes too far and to challenge him on some flaws he may have.
Marcille’s canon shapeshifter of Chilchuck is the most convincing one/last one standing! In which he was nicer because Marcille still had some trouble not seeing him as young and thus innocent. Which besides the whole age thing, her having an accurate but nicer version of Chilchuck in her mind is pretty flattering lol
In the earlier chapters they stick by each other the most, often sharing knowing glances and judging the other together. They share this complicity and "wow finally someone sane in this party" energy that none of the others have in quite that way. Comrades in disgust.
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He cannot escape her gossip, she will not rest until she knows all and has met his family and romanticized his life and relationships. She’s the one who pushes Chilchuck to be more open about himself the most. Which, we do also see her being jealous when Chilchuck opens up more to others instead of her, like pic below. Moreover, we see that she’s able to read him like a book to the point that it freaks him out!! Oh the horror of being known… Relationship goals, freak him out bc you understand him so well Oh can I just point out as well that they're the only ones who saw each other's succubus. Like wow knowing each other's most alluring form? Dayum
When doing her theory about what happened between him and his wife, the pictures where her roleplaying as his wife, like literally with her being a half-foot like in the changeling chapters and the mini chilchuck for a baby lmaooo. Which I just now realized that means Marcille’s question about if his wife has blonde hair is valid, we technically don’t know if he already liked blondes or if it’s an acquired taste. Give me a sec to recover from that-
But yeah Marcille is so people-obsessed that she catalogues every little detail about someone, like how Chilchuck complains when he has to wait after someone… She notices things and takes them in stride even if they’re flaws. (In first page, it's the bottom row middle panel)
She wanted to sleep in his bed when Izutsumi was being clingy and she didn't want to sleep alone <3
Here he goes to her to either help her stay upright or comfort her… Uncharacteristic of him but very sweet. What are you gonna do if she collapses on you big guy, collapse along in a show of solidarity?
He's been shown to make sure Marcille stays safe a few times as well, like below. No I will not accept "she's the healer of the party" as a full explanation. He really does get an arc, from not wanting to be anywhere near the battlefield to sticking by his party members. Unlike Laios, Senshi and Izutsumi they both tend to hang in the back in battles, I love how they often strategize together as well.
The reverse is also sometimes true. Especially with how non-shy Marcille is with physical contact, interestingly she's way less delicate about saving others than him lol.
He’s the only one shown to flinch when she makes a noisein the bath which leads me to think he’s the one most flustered by the whole Marcille changing and bathing close by thing, it prob doesn’t help that he has great hearing but yeah, he seems to be hyperaware of her presence in those instances and overreacts.
"Come with me and braid my hair every day!" Meanwhile Chilchuck is fighting for his life holding her at an arm’s length
I can’t believe this is on his ADVENTURER’S BIBLE DESCRIPTION like that thing is one big paragraph about his whole character and you allotted that important limited space for this. Kui do you hear yourself
Part 2 here
#Dungeon meshi#marcille donato#chilchuck tims#marchil#Marcille x chilchuck#Chilchuck x marcille#Funny story before I knew there was already a good ship name (marchil) i was using every other iteration like marchuck and chilcille#Shipping crumbs#i’ve never multishipped as much as for Dunmeshi it’s kinda wild#You will never know my next move never know what ship i’ll talk about next#This ship is so ancient and has survived the war for me. Ok peepaw let’s get me back to bed#Oh and pls don’t come for me for calling Chil money corrupt I don’t mean it that seriously i swear. Just in the money > friends sense#That we saw a lot from him at first#i got so much laimar crumbs while looking for marchil ones too. man these are tedious and tiring to make tho#i am every dunmeshi fan afraid of shipping's worst nightmare#does that make the community chilchuck and me Marcille
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incredibly amusing to me that by half-foot terms chilchuck is actually considered pretty tall and masculine, so when tranformed into a tall man he looks visibly older and taller than laios. in turn, half-foot laios looks much younger and feminine compared to chilchuck, representing the difference in the perception of ages between the races.
very interesting, right?
which in turn alludes me to this image.
behold! biblically accurate chilaios.
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can i say something... (<- guy who is saying it regardless) for the record this is not at you or at the person who reblogged! but concepts such as a maximum lifespan are inherently kind of dependent on outliers by definition, and we have no information on how the existence of magic and monsters or the conditions of the world affect things like infant mortality or early death due to adventuring and so on, let alone how those factors impact one race as opposed to another--so i don't really think there IS a way to calculate age equivalencies that's going to give us an an absolute and dependably accurate answer, and that's probably why chilchuck's stage in life was compared to that of a modern human for our reference. it's fun to run the numbers but realistically any estimate we come up with is going to be based on a lot of guesswork and assumption, whether we like it or not, especially when so much of what even the characters know about their world is shown to be based on incomplete or incorrect information
Guessing is fun!
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Cooking some food, so while I wait on that to finish. Lemme give yall some potentially cursed Voice Headcanons I had for the Dungeon Meshi gang before the anime came out.
Laois & Falin: Honestly, the anime nailed it...mostly. Consider it personal bias but I gave Laois and Falin some country accents in my head. Either Alabama or West Virginian depending on the day. They just seem like they got some "Country Bumpkin" energy.
Marcille: Considering I still read her name as "Mar-Silly-A" you might expect me to have given her a french accent, but no. I always read her voice kinda like a slightly higher pitched and panicked version of Asami's from Legend of Korra.
Senshi: A soft spoken Gimli, with no specific accent outside of fantasy dwarf. (I know it's based on a real accent, but fantasy dwarf is not the same as real scottish) I watched too much Lord of the Rings and now it's the default way all dwarves sound in mah brain.
Chilchuck: Before learning he was a middle aged man, Anime voice is pretty accurate. After learning he was a middle aged man, for some reason MoistCritikal (current youtube name Penguinz0) and I can't explain why.
Itsuzumi: Catra. Literally just Catra from She-ra. They have a similar "Fuck yall, I got mine!" Energy.
Bonus!
Thistle: Like a more pissy and bratty 9S from Nier automata. Listen, both are twinky sad boys I could carry like a football if I wanted.
Chimera Falin: I don't think she speaks, but I assumed she would make grunts and noises like a mix of the Deathclaw in Fallout and bird trills due to the mix of Dragon and Harpy features.
Kabru: Beastboy. From the OG Teen-Titans cartoon, not Teen-Titans Go. He just looks like the kind of dude to have a naturally disarming sound to his voice. (Would you expect a beastboy sounding person to be schemeing?)
#modeus's autistic ramblings#humor#headcanon fun#dungeon meshi#laois touden#falin touden#chilchuk tims#senshi#marcille donato#kabru of utaya#itsuzumi#thistle dungeon meshi
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I cast vicious mockery!!!
You’re a short motherfucker and nobody likes you 🪈 (short!) 🎶
Everybody says “look how fucking short that guy is” And it stops you from forming meaningful relationships 🎵 ✨
When you were born everybody thought that you were just a head but then the doctor said “Wait! This stupid motherfucking, tiny, short ass baby got a tiny, little itty-bitty body and I hate it-“
🪈 🎼
(Lyrics from Perception Check by Tom Cardy)
Get rekt peepaw <3
"Vicious Mockery only works if the insult is accurate, you know," Chilchuck rolls his eyes and goes back to cleaning the bar, unphased, "I was a big baby, as far as half-foots are concerned. I've always been bigger than other half-foots in my age group. I've never been embarrassed by it."
"...Your singing could also use some work, by the way."
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just finished catching up with your beautiful fic and i realized bout chilaois that is especially prominent in your fic that i adore is how often its portrayed laios at THE downbad one, like that man cannot stop staring at that half-foot...!! which i feel is pretty accurate cause that dogboy has a lot of love to give lol
as a short trans king myself whos getting up there with age, i am in love with your interpretation of chilchuck so much and see myself alot in him. his whole thought process and self reflections are fascinating and hes so close on some things and yet so far, "hmmm oh geez chil i wonder what the whole sir thing can be about hmmm"
i'm not sure where i'm going with this, i just wanna gush about your fic and how its my fav dunmeshi fic and it means alot to me and thanks for sharing with the rest of us freaks
WAUGH... THANK YOU ANON...
i'm also a short trans guy, and i'm also chilchuck's age! i wouldn't say i'm projecting on him overmuch (laios gets more of that than chilchuck does), but i've definitely shaped some of how i've had him think of himself based on my own experiences with gender and sexuality. so it does genuinely mean a lot to me when anyone can identify with his struggles.
it was important, for me, to try and craft a believable trans narrative for him, not only based on my own understanding of being transmasc but on how i understand him as a character. it's been really fun to try and make this tale that's emotionally fraught but also will, eventually, be affirming. i think he gets caught up in his own insecurities so much that sometimes he can't plainly see how the people around him won't see things in the same negative way that he does.
he has a ways to go on healing from everything he's been through and accepting that he's worthy of love and forgiveness, and soon enough i hope to start demonstrating that laios is just as "broken" as he is, but in his own ways. and then they can start healing together. (there will be some hardships and drama, too, but i love a good "and they survived it together" story.)
i hope you continue enjoying it!!! and thank you for reaching out :3
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Caught up to chapter 56. if we assume the numbers Chilchuck has given us are accurate (and he could be lying but bear with me), and hes said hes 29, and that halffoots mature around age 14, and he has three adult daughters... do you see what im getting at here?? Chilchuck and wife fantasy high school sweethearts is what im getting at here
#sorry everything about this is SO cute to me#but yeah like. are the girls triplets? i get the sense theyre triplets#but even with the strictest counts here a 14yo kid would have been born when he was 15#which is maybe the equivalent of humans falling in love and starting a family at 20#which is a little ridiculous in our day and age BUT ALSO consider: chilchuck could be a grandpa
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