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the tudors (2007-2010) / wolf hall (2009) / henry viii & the king's men (2020) / eustace chapuys to the emperor (june 1535) / the other boleyn girl (2008) / the downfall and execution of a tudor queen (2023) / eustace chapuys to the emperor (april 1536) / henry viii, stratford festival production (2019) / wolf hall (2009) / elizabeth i & her enemies (2017) / the mirror & the light (2020) / becoming elizabeth (2022) / the mirror & the light (2020) / the tudors (2007-2010) / the mirror & the light (2020) / the tudors (2007-2010)
#'she sees who is the master now' top ten cremuel freak moments#wolf hall crit#web weaving#(repeating the sources is kind of ...well. repetitive#but for the purpose of critique; necessary#altho you can argue this is just cromwell sort of...calcifying? callusing? over time. whatever the word is#but if he truly believes that elizabeth is going to 'live to thank him'......#again idk if this is intentional lol#mantel going 'not hardly' with that line from margaret pole#i don't think she meant them to be connected tbh#bcus that sounds more like plausible deniability for himself.#elizabeth won't remember (you were not yet five). but/so she'll live to thank him#granted. he has no reason to expect she would ever become queen#he dies before even the 1543 act so as far as he knew it wasn't possible 1536-#but you know. what she would have learned from parker and alesius... maybe even kat herself. despite cromwell's patronage#not hardly#i think it folds into his 'i will protect the gospel better'#it's not guilt or even really the suggestion of guilt. he is very explicitly not thinking about anne as he promotes her daughter's educatio#had elizabeth indeed lived to 'thank' him... hmm. delulu. but entertaining it....#i mean; it's almost impossible. she would've thought of him as mary thought of cranmer. if not even more intensely . because what was#done to catherine and mary was not equal to what happened to anne and by extension elizabeth#there were similarities but it was not on the same level
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daniel ricciardo | enchanté nyc pop-up december 2024
#daniel ricciardo#dr3#he was really very unfairly adorable in this interaction#but I did have an LOL at the guy being like yeah we do a lot for red bull show runs#like...my guy...have you not read the news? have you been offline for 3 months while making this?#you really went yes let me talk about redbull racing to daniel ricciardo in the year of our lord december 2024#'idk if you saw on the redbull page recently'#brother he definitely did not see that on the redbull page recently...#desperate to see his individual beard hairs again#longing for high quality video footage of this man again#could not think of a caption...between side profile and intent listening face i was overwhelmed and went basic#also - were the comments on that video always turned off or did people get shitty?
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TELEMACHUS AND ANTINOUS. FINALLY
#throwing a tiny bit of (NOT FULLY THOUGHT OUT AND VERY MUCH A WIP) info about them here for u guys#i was trying to figure out what the fuck antinous could do in this au#and then i was like oh wait monster hunter. obviously#so hes a monster hunter lol#<- this is actually sorta funny because the temporary odysseus lore i have is that he used to be a monster hunter at one point#and then he got bit on the job or something lol#aughhh this is very embarassing to admit but this whole au in my head is very heavily inspired by the danganronpa fic out for blood#so i will admit. i just stole hajimes backstory from that fic#btw you guys should read that fic. even if youre not into danganronpa it doesnt really rely on canon at ALL and its very good#anyways as a temporary thing i dont really think borrowing that matters#anyways monster hunter antinous just seems like the natural conclusion here idk idk#i dont really have a solid story in mind in general so im not worrying about how different aspects interact atm#anyways telemachus thoughts now#hes obviously still penelope and odys kid so. funny vampire/werewolf hybrid thing lets talk about that#so i imagine he takes after odysseus in MOST things. he is for all intents and purposes mostly just a werewolf#but ahh. ok i dont know werewolf lore so im gonna explain it#(its very much again just based on one really good danganronpa fic i read)#i think when turned its sort of like. a blackout blind rage. very little complex thought involved. just kill and maim etc#<- not getting too into it bc of tag limits. lmk if you want me to ramble about how werewolves in this au work though#anyways i think since telemachus isnt a full werewolf this doesnt fully apply to him#he may or may not have violent instincts but he could probably resist them and hes at least semi-aware when turned#anyways i think penelope dresses him. thats why hes so fancy. very much giving off heavy vampire energy despite barely being one#is he immortal* like a vampire? we dont know and were not gonna test it hopefully!#also he could probably drink blood he doesnt HAVE to though and he doesnt like the taste really. penelope does not get it </3#ok done rambling in the tags now time for art tags#doodles#epic the musical#epic monster au#antinous#telemachus
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i think im in too deep w charmander duo. bc i was thinking abt how flame thinks very little abt bans, and how theres a genuine possibility he helps the Guardians ban people not even bc he thinks bans should matter, but just like for fun bc he doesnt think of it that seriously. which led me to thinking "wait but pangi could help him change his mind ^-^" nd now im just thinking of an au where pangi does Just That .
#lifesteal spoilers#charmander duo#pangi#flamefrags#i gen think only losing mane or pangi could help change his perspective tbh#i don't see pangi doing this realistically but that's why its an au :D#bc to me in this au its like worst case scenario of flame banning more than just already banned players#maybe not at the end of s6 but approaching the end#so thats why i think pangi would be more okay banning himself to help flame see things differently#i think hes aware zam and derap seperately will Not let him stay banned too bc zam is zam#and derap would stop at nothing to revive pangi like theyre buddies!!#but he would at least say he wont come back to emphasize how permanent it is and how no matter who is banned#it will matter to at least one person. itll impact SOMEONE. just like pangi is intending for his own life to matter to flame#tho if pangi did ban himself i think itd upset zam and derap a lot ToT#like esp if its for the guy whos been banning other people. even if it does change flame its like#itd feel like a loss nonetheless for the team intent on keeping everyone alive#esp bc its someone derap actually cares abt#sry idk if zam cares abt pangi like that which is why im focusing on cringe and charmanders#LOL#ik empires are a thing but zams way of treating pangi def doesnt show his care tbh#like the only people who actually seem to value pangi on ls is derap and flame#and even they would never choose him first#but they care enough that I think pangi being banned would impact them the most#sorry for angst posting on christmas#it might happen again#later#it depends. im in a Mood.#n e ways! im gonna nap before my social obligations ^-^
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Wait ok so this might not mean anything and someone probably has already pointed this out but…
When Will is painting, i just realized the first color we see is green (Byler: 💛+💙=💚)

Then the next color shown is blue, Mike’s color

Red is shown next which he’s painting in the dragon…which makes think that’s foreshadowing to Mike getting really close dying in season 5.. bc of the red symbolism and painting the villain of the piece

#idk i’m reaching again lol#i just found it interesting#not everything is intentional but is it???#byler#stranger things#byler endgame#mike wheeler#will byers#mike wheeler is gay#byler canon#stranger things season 5#byler colors#byler proof#byler theory#mike wheeler theory#stranger things 5
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i think eridan would be mildly baffled by superliminal but appreciate it for the ways it parallels the stanley parable. so eridan and sollux can sweetly kiss in the somnasculpt dreamscape as a treat for @erisolweek <3
#tmos has art#eridan ampora#sollux captor#erisol#erisolweek#erisol week#this one is intentionally a little rougher around the edges. the intent is 'i woke up feeling sick and threw away my first take at this' lo#like. there were 4 other screenshots i was debating on using + a joke about eridan telling sollux to shut up while dr glen pierce is talkin#and also an iteration where there was no screenshot but drawings of different places eridan very obviously finds mesmerizing to look at#regardless! ended up looking at the screenshot in here again and i was like. wait. kissy chair :)#and the song probably playing on the phone is. man idk i had a few i can imagine would be playing#memory palace by stone cold fox. quiet eyes by duster. bicycles in sleep cycles by a great big pile of leaves. etc etc lol
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Rewatching The Bear 2x03 is actually crazy and feels so clarifying because like...
The ep starts with Carmy speaking at Al-Anon about fun, and how maybe he needs to have more of it. He acknowledges that fun is complicated for him because as a kid his family tended to ruin things for him, even though this was often unintentionally done. He says that he thinks if he had more amusement or enjoyment in his own life then it would be easier to provide that for other people. (Big note here that part of the purpose OF a restaurant is to provide amusement and enjoyment for people. Then add in Luca's conversation with Marcus in 2x04 about how the best food comes from being open and inspired, and spending time in the world. So Carmy having fun could theoretically make him better at his job.)
Anyway, Carmy gives that spiel at Al-Anon. Then we get a brief interlude of Syd looking at articles about recent restaurant closings and being stressed.
And then we're immediately back with Syd and Carmy cooking together in his kitchen. She fucks up a dish again, and he suggests they stop cooking and do a palate reset.
Like... this all happens within the first five minutes of the ep. This man has been musing about how he needs to have more fun.... and then he suggests spending the day eating in the city with Syd..... ergo that's his definition of fun. This is literally him making an attempt at doing something for amusement or enjoyment!! He planned this!! I fully believe he had this idea even before Sydney fucked up the dish. This man said I need to have more fun and you know what would be fun? Spending the day with my business partner eating delicious food. So he sends her home with plans to meet in an hour.
And then. AND THEN. Claire calls. First of all when she asks if he's busy, he looks at the white board and the very first thing on the To Do list is "call fridge guy" so like. lmao. I love foreshadowing. And he literally is busy!!! Not with unpleasant tasks to do but with something FUN. Something fun that he planned FOR himself.
And what is it that Claire asks him to do? Is it something fun? No. She asks him to HELP HER MOVE her mom. Like, the least fun task in the history of anything, the thing that people historically HATE being asked to help with. And he doesn't look excited about it! He looks torn. He looks...weird idk. Like ohhhh it's actually so crazy that Carmy bails on a truly fun day with Sydney in order to do a manual labor favor for Claire.
This is so ripe for analysis you simply cannot tell me it doesn't mean anything.
Carmy thinks about how he needs more fun, plans a fun day for himself, and then, when someone he tried to avoid asks him to do a not fun favor, he says yeah, I'll do that instead.
#Almost like he feels a sense of obligation.#Almost like he's self sabotaging.#Almost like Claire's connection to his past to his family to Michael is... allowing his family to ruin something fun for him yet again.#idk I'm not completely married to that bit but the material is definitely there!!#anyway this is my first post-s2 sydcarmy analysis but certainly not the last!!#this show is nuts everything is so intentional and carefully crafted I'm having a field day#apologies if this post comes off like I'm yelling I kind of am bc I was so excited while writing it lol#the bear#the bear meta#sydcarmy#sydcarmy meta#the bear s2#chefs kiss#sydney adamu#carmen berzatto#sydney x carmy
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not to beat a dead horse but there's something kind of illuminating and warmie yet sad about the fact that Taylor's parents are attending Travis' game with her and regularly. I know the "you never saw--" joke is old, but the idea that [redacted]'s family did actually occasionally attend events with Taylor (including at what it seems may have been a difficult time), but after a certain point she herself didn't/couldn't attend his in turn, never mind her family, and it's just a testament to how different things are now, how different her life is, and frankly how integrated their family life has become. Idk I'm just really happy for popstar bestie because I feel like this is probably everything she ever wanted and didn't know she could have at one point.
#i should probably delete this lol#like-- he just wanted nothing to do with her in public#I know we've said it a million ways and it's more nuanced than that#and we know how hurtful that was *for her*#(again even though it was more nuanced than that on the page)#but I keep thinking of her parents in situations like this because they had to watch it happen#and now they've got a regular spot at their son in law's event and they're embraced in the fold idk#(shut up I'm using the term in a general sense miss me with the legalities bla bla bla)#(I'm sorry but that's what they all are to each other for all intents and purposes now)#like it goes both ways: it shows how serious she and [redacted] were and how much his family considered her one of their own#but by the same token how difficult it must have been for her to keep herself (and her family) so separate from anything having to do#with him in the name of propriety or rules or whatever the fuck else#like the breakup is obviously the two people involved but it's also breaking up an entire support system idk
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hiii hello so we are just going to go out on a limb here and ask if it'd be cool with you if we wrote some kind of fanfic based on / set in what we understand to be your post canon setting for isat? we might just spend a bunch of time thinking about scenarios within it rather than write any actual fanfiction But we have definitely strayed into Wanting To terrain so we wanna ask before we get too caught up in the idea. your take is awesome and we know we've been putting our thoughts in our reblog tags but at this point we are runnning out of "normal words" there are emotions only poetry masquerading as prose fanfiction can convey now. anyway totally understand if not Have a good day !
oh absolutely go right ahead!! It's my thought that i make fanwork in a communal sense so, if it inspires other people that's kind of the ideal outcome LMAO. But yeah go nuts!!
My musings on postcanon are vague at best and lightly self-contradictory anyway so its not exactly a 'setting' anyone could Fuck Up since 1. its not really Mine per se (it is a fanwork. and to me fanworks are just kind of... for other fans?? to me?? idk lol. like i didnt make the canon lol im not staking claim or authority on anything it feels weird) and 2. i think like the only solid 'plot points' in my perception of postcanon i bash dolls together in is like. Loop came back only a couple months at max while the party was still travelling around After picking up Nille (ambiguous vague timing) and they and Siffrin are going through great pains to obfuscate loops identity because theyre sure that for some reason they are paranoid revealing this would be Bad. and then just all the shit i detailed re: isabeau torment nexus. so like. these three posts (x) (x) (x). and uh. yeah thats like it. i dont keep a clear order of events in my head at all i just think its fun to maximise polycule disaster bullshit for whats probably outright Months before resolving it into "oh okay theyre together now its okay guys dont worry" in whatever level of romance through qpr that you please. which as someone who thinks the whole party is just gonna fall into some weird fucking extended qpr-polycule inevitably im sure u can assume my thoughts are similarly. vague as hell and mildly contradcictory. again.
anyway uhhh yeah go nuts show nuts (optional) have fun the above is to just hand you more posts to feed to your Mind Maw and have ideas about if you want them since generating ideas in other people is What Poasts Are For 👍👍👍
(edit: oh i am reading more of ur tag rambles that i missed just now. :) i like your thourts and reads!)
#lucabytetalks#idk !! rambled again for no real reason besides to hopefully assuage any fears that id be against you doing whatever the hell u want.#like im not an authority here have funnnn play in the spaaace and i basically never peruse ao3 and dont read much fic#(which means for all intents and purposes: if you dont want me to see things i probably wont. but if you do i dont mind being tagged)#(this extends to anyone and everyone btw)#i do have other rambly ass text posts under my lucabytetalks tags between my ask answers and random posts so if youre willing to dig i have#other random scattered thoughts. but thats entirely optional you do not have to do that im just telling u bc sometimes i didnt#fandom tag them. so uh. yeah. lol. sorry if my more niche bullshit is harder to find#isat spoilers
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i told this girl that i hooked up with (yeah i've mentioned this multiple times but also i'm bothered) that i don't like texting and get overwhelmed by it because she was texting me constantly and it was making me uncomfortable bc i said that i just wanted to have sex and she like didn't text me for 2 days but she texted me yesterday and it annoyed me and i'm also annoyed bc she invited me to this punk festival and i like never said i wanted to be friends and also told her that i don't really listen to punk music lol so like why did you invite me and idk what to do
#like i was already a bit icked out before i told her to not text me as much which my fault but now i'm even more icked out i kind of don't#want to see her again and i feel bad about it#the sex was like pretty decent but tbh im more of a one night stand person rn#and it's also like every other person is into biting nowadays it loses its novelty after a while#idk i feel like she assumed a lot about my intentions and i like want to clarify them but also#IDK i just feel bad when i have sex with someone once and drop them LOL#diary
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ushering in the new year with hot cocoa & my kitties should honestly be my personal tradition this rocks
#like I have work tomorrow i work in healthcare so holidays don’t affect my schedule lol#but regardless I think this is a nice way to usher in the new year#I’ve spent many new years days hungover & don’t get me wrong it’s fun to get drunk I love alcohol#but also#something nice about ushering in the new year with softness & intention rather than raging yknow?#idk if that makes any sense lol#I read that in Japan they go to bed early so as to greet the new years fresh & rested#& idk there’s just something nice about that#to me#yknow???#I mean I’m about to open champagne but like I’m not gonna get drunk#again. healthcare job. normal workday tomorow lol#Damon & Church
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Seth Rollins sacrificing his body at wreslemania mention Seth coming out in a black vest black pants black T-shirt…… girl last time I saw u in a similar getup u were hitting your brothers in the back w a chair……
#me constantly Is That A Shield Reference#with most ppl I’d be like yeah that’s just bc it’s the storyline I’ve been so invested in I’m just reading into things obviously lol#but both I think Seth is so intentional about his outfits (me yapping about king troi again but that man fucking Gets It)#and also I mean. he did the thing at mania so it’s Not Just Me#idk where I’m going w any of this. rambling in the tags. I need go go to bed#wwe#seth rollins#shield watch
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sometimes i think a little bit about how the Wyrm's ultimate Evil Ploy on Elora was to grant her heterosexual marriage and then not only does she turn that down but she and two lesbian knights defeat the evil AND THEN the Power Of Love comes in to save the heterosexual marriage guy but its literally just the power of his sister saying hey come back i miss you. and, dear readers, i find myself going insane a little
#like okay its most likely not that deep#but i remember losing it at the willow finale like oh my god#the end of the world is brought forth by a straight wedding. i mean thats gotta stand for something right#also kinda iphigeniacoded of elora to go to a marriage thats also her sacrifice#gonna be real with yall i saw a silly post of like kit and jade reacting to the Crone Kiss as like haha lesbians seeing straight kiss#and it just reminded me of that insane bit of idk maybe semi intentional#metaphorism#many thoughts and feelings about this. might be worth looking into more#lol the lowkey bisexual boorman confirmation before the fight too...... its almost like....... theres metaphors and allegories happening#again no doubt im being more deep abt this than necessary#tbh im just really fixated on the wedding. truly couldnt have done better if i was writing some kind of fancy play about heteronormativity#in fantasy settings#yeah#whatever#willow 2022#my shit
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Am back drawing again hrbhrhrrhrhehhr this is my progress after one 8h day and this would normaly not take this long but I'm making her for spine so that she will move!!!!
#Fini#my ocs <3#ill also make her hubby#rhis is suposed to be splash art for my hypothetical gacha game (HYPO) where i put all my ocs in#it feels soooooo good to finaly do art again#ill proba cintinue the SPL honki au on my main idk#im being very self indulged with bitg oc art n honki au hehehehehe#bzt hey i draw for me and me alone well exept i also acecept requests but that too is for the adrenelin i get from ppl reactibg to my art#simething somthing doing good is still good even with selfish intention somthibg somthibg#i cant spell lol#dyslexia fir the winnnn
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Desperately trying to make sense of Alex's motivations in Season Two and you know, I do eventually have to wonder if maybe Alex wasn't actually lying in the majority of those tapes.
Like, we tend to assume that Alex's motivations have been a consistent throughline since the college years, but do we actually know that that's the case? Do we know for sure that Alex was acting in deliberate, calculated ways in 2006; or could it be that he's telling the Truth on those olds tapes when he says he's blacking out and can't remember what's happening to anyone? After all, if we're assuming that Season 2 Alex's motivations are the exact same as his motives in Season 3, then it doesn't make any sense at all that he spend months working with Jay to try to find Amy; Season 3 Alex would have attempted to kill Jay like, on sight just to get things over with as quickly as possible and contain the spread of contamination as best as he could.
But, maybe, if Alex really had been separated from Amy after the events of the 04-04-10 tape, and if he really doesn't know where she is, then maybe that could make things start to make more sense. Maybe he really had been watching Jay's channel, and seeing Jay start going through the same things he went through in college without things devolving into violence and disappearances, and wondered if things maybe could play out differently this time. Maybe he really did send that tape to Jay to ask him for help, maybe he really was just trying to find Amy.
But then, instead of actually being helpful, Jay makes it extremely clear that he's a lot more interested in stalking Alex than he is in finding Amy. Alex asked for help, and instead there's a bunch of masked dudes on Jay's heels that keep attacking him, Jay is breaking into his house, stealing his things, leading the Operator right to him all over again, keeps trying to get other people (namely: Jessica -- if Alex is being honest when he says that his call reassuring her that Amy had been found was an effort to make Sure she stayed away from everything that was happening) involved; and instead of anything getting better, instead of anyone finding Amy, things are just getting worse all over again.
It's not until after the incident at the tunnel that things seem to start rapidly devolving. Rather than a calculated attempt to finally follow through with his need to curb the spread of contamination, this is very clearly an outburst of rage and terror. Alex's "I told you not to follow me" line in conjunction with Jay speculating that Alex didn't know who that guy was, to me, pretty firmly seems to speak to Alex having mistaken that stranger for Jay. From his point of view, Alex knows that Jay and totheark know where he live, have broken in before, he suspects that Jay stole a key to make it easier to get into his house, and he's been followed on the daily for months -- Alex is sitting at the tunnel because he doesn't know where else he can go without being constantly surveilled, hunted, and assaulted. And instead of getting a moment by himself to breathe, Jay followed him out there all over again (it feels like Alex looks directly at the camera in Jay's footage of him from this day; he knew for a fact that Jay was there), and then to make matters worse now 'Jay' won't even keep his distance anymore.
So Alex lashes out. And it's not until afterwards that he looks down and finally recognizes that this wasn't Jay -- it was someone completely innocent. Things have finally reached the low point he was at in college all over again; maybe even worse this time. If Alex doesn't remember attacking anyone in college, but he was at least partially conscious of it this time, then things have reached an entirely new rock bottom, they've reached an absolute point of no return.
He has no idea what happened to Amy, and he's spent months trying to find her with no hint of where she could be; he doesn't know where Jay actually is or what additional trouble he could be causing at this point; he does know that now innocent people are getting caught in the crossfire (in regards to the stranger in the tunnel, and also Jessica now that Jay has her phone number, and the untold number of people Jay got involved when he started posting videos to the Marble Hornets channel); things are spiraling out of control and there's no one left to ask for help. The situation isn't getting better, it's getting worse; things aren't getting easier to handle, they're just getting more out of hand; the negative impact is spreading and who knows how much further it can still go?
So, Alex decides to go scorched earth. He disfigures the body with the rock either to hide evidence or to make sure the guy would actually stay dead and not just get back up to start his own cycle of contamination in a few years. He tries to give Jay one last chance to back off, and Jay instead admits he's been talking to Jessica, acts obstinate and lies about not having Alex's spare key, and then breaks into Alex's house a second time (minimum). If Alex doesn't stop him now, who will? Alex met with Jay planning to kill the others, and then himself, so he could put a stop to this once and for all and keep things from getting any worse than they already were.
Maybe it makes a lot more sense if, rather than being a strangely incomprehensible detour on what should have been a straight path, the events of Season Two were the breaking point that put Alex on that path to begin with.
#N posts stuff#idk!!! I've been thinking a lot lately about the tendency to take Characters at Face Value; when they tell us things we tend to#automatically believe them despite what evidence we might have to the contrary. & like when it comes to deciphering what#went down during the college film project it's mostly totheark that posits that Alex was Definitely Lying and Definitely Acting on Purpose#(even Jay is largely ambivalent - wondering which way it leans and basically saying it could go either way)#but. do we KNOW that they know that? Do we Know that they're Right when they claim that? Or are they just Assuming based off#of their own rage and animosity towards Alex due to what happened? Do we Know for Sure that Alex Was Lying in s1?#i don't know if we do!! And so without Knowing that for sure; how can we speak to Alex's motivations in season one OR season two?#now TO BE CLEAR: I am not saying this in an attempt to claim that Alex is somehow completely innocent of all guilt and that like.#Jay is the 'Real Antagonist' of the series - not at all my intention. this is just More of my usual 'look. Everyone in this series is#all kinds of Morally Grey; no recurring character in this series is free of guilt they ALL have unique fatal flaws & trends towards#antagonism that makes things worse and dooms them all' shtick - a la 'everyone Thinks they're doing the Right Thing but No One Is'#BUT i Am wondering if this Does help to like. clear up some of the ambiguity/uncertainty of Season Two - and even Season One - and#lets the series as a whole read a little bit clearer? idk i know that Jay does Claim to think that Alex was bullshitting him#the whole time & was Actually planning on tying up loose ends the whole time but AGAIN it doesn't make Sense he'd wait so long#idk - Am i making sense? does any of this track? i'm trying to figure it out; i am open to comments on the subject to help#i haven't rewatched season 3 yet today and so maybe there's stuff in there that contradicts this whole theory lmao but i'm taking a break#and just posting this anyway; we'll see what happens lol#marble hornets#mh lb
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Idk about all of you but it never sat right with me when people portrayed Dutch as evil, manipulative and money driven ever since begining. I mean pre-canon pre-gang begining.
I think if it really was that way there would be no way the gang would trust him that much and that blindly after making so many bad and dangerous decisions. I know from expierience that emotional manipulation can go far but not that far. I simply cant see the younger him as the giant asshole that he becomes during the second game. I believe that, in order to achieve this level of trust and loyalty he mustve really loved all of them.
In a way, i think he also loves them during the course of the second game in his own, twisted way. I think he truly wanted to get them out of the trouble he caused, but had no idea how, and with his own paranoia and whispers about traitor in the gang, he kept making desperate decisions that in the end, resulted in even more trouble and suffering.
Now, i know there were no traitors in the gang (not counting Micah) and if he got his head out of his ass he would probably realise that but sometimes i think about how he mustve felt, thinking that someone that he loved, raised and gave so much to, would turn back on him and the rest of their family, let them die for a pile of cash, not even realising he himself was doing exactly that, but that feeling alone would be enough to drive someone crazy.
Combine this with the grief he mustve felt for the fallen members and the fact that none of this has ever happened before Blackwater, he must have thought that him failing and showing weakness would be the reason someone would betray him and it would explain his insane plans and attempts at regaining control over the situation, only realising just how wrong he had been when he saw Arthur dying at his feet.
Im not apologising him and DEFINETELY not trying to paint him as innocent. He did manipulate Arthur and many others during the game but i think it came from a different place then just wanting money. And of course he wanted the money, his greed was one of the many reasons the gang ended the way it did but there were deeper reasons as to why he wanted them so desperately, besides just for the sake having them and i choose to believe it was because he really wanted to provide and have enough for his family to live comfortably.
I just think the way he acted during the second game was, as tragic as that sounds, mostly out of fear of losing the people he saw as his family. Not even realising it would be that fear that would eventually kill them all off.
#dutch van der linde#red dead redemption 2#rdr2#if you dont agree and think he was bad just because he was bad then alright im fine with it i could be wrong idk#i just like looking at certain characters and over analysing them and hes my current victim of this#i also think that he is the perfect exaple of that “path to hell is paved with good intentions” or however the saying goes#im not an english native speaker so im not sure i remember that correctly#i also have a theory on why hes such a monster in rdr1#but i have nowhere to play that game so i cant be sure if my theory actually matches up#idk man this game is making me feel things once again#and to that i respond by trying to make myself even sadder with there theories lol
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