#aegony

[saltywinteradult]

jon*rys shippers be like ”you hate jon*rys for being incest but then you ship jonsa!!! hypocrite!!!” actually i hate jon*rys because dany is abusive to jon and a tyrant in the making. hope that helps

[sherlokiness]

i have both seen foreshadowing from jonerys and jonsas, in your opinion, what's the biggest difference between them?

Hi, anon, thanks for the ask.

I think the biggest difference between us is that the greatest gotcha moment for their ship falling in love comes from a prophecy. They're so insistent that bride of fire+sweetness must mean a marriage for love between JD. Mind you, it's the same prophecy with a sword of Damocles hanging over its head called a "treason FOR LOVE." The betrayal is 100% for sure what we know has something to do with love. FOR LOVE of who?

Coincidentally, what I consider the gotcha moment for jonsa has something to do with betrayal too but it concerns a very important choice by Jon. I think it's under the "subtle and obscure" clues GRRM talked about.

Wed to Ser Loras, oh . . . Sansa's breath caught in her throat. [..]She could only imagine what it would be like to pull up his tunic and caress the smooth skin underneath, to stand on her toes and kiss him, to run her fingers through those thick brown curls and drown in his deep brown eyes. A flush crept up her neck.

Here's Sansa imagining drowning in her future husband's eyes.

"You have your mother's eyes. Honest eyes, and innocent. Blue as a sunlit sea. When you are a little older, many a man will drown in those eyes."

A man will.

Longclaw seemed heavier than lead in his hand, too heavy to lift. The man kept staring at him, with eyes as big and black as wells. I will fall into those eyes and drown.

Jon said I WILL.

No, she was one of mine, gods love her, black hair and these sweet big eyes, you could drown in them. Yours

Long dark hair and blue eyes you could drown in, and he had.

When she had been presented to him, Cersei had almost drowned in the depths of his sad purple eyes.

Not could or had or almost. He WILL.

three treasons will you know . . . once for blood and once for gold and once for love . . .

"I remember the Undying. Child of three, they called me. Three mounts they promised me, three fires, and three treasons. One for blood and one for gold and one for …"

She's just short of the word love. So close.

sIt is not me she wants her son to marry, it is my claim. No one will ever marry me for love.

Don't worry, sweetling, Jon will. Once he refuses to marry Dany in favor of Sansa then that becomes a metaphorical "knife into the heart." Words were knives and his sister is his heart. Will he also literally do it in the books? Maybe. One way or another, Jon will stab a knife into Dany's heart.

[worthyheir]

Have we got the challenge for you?

[dinastiatargaryen]

[celestialkisses]

Top 10 Ships (fail)

Rules: Without naming them, post a gif of the ten of your favorite ships (any media), then tag ten people to do the same.

ty for tagging me @lonelyvampx 💕 ✨

fail bc i’m annoying and picky about ships. one of these is extremely controversial, don’t worry about it.

@aegondisforever @aegonisdrunk @dr-aegon @pearlcrumbs @angelspitxx @my-patronus-is-a-coconut @aegonie

[starsandstars]

Aegon? More like aegony, fuck

[sherlokiness]

Finally someone else clocking in that Jon's howling doesn't do anything to lessen Dany's hunger(for power). She's gonna die a disgraceful death for being too power hungry. This can be an aegony hint (albeit negative) because Jon will beg Dany to stop but she would refuse. It still doesn't foreshadow true love though cause clearly even if Jon loved her, Dany's love for him is cheap when compared to the Iron Throne.

[sherlokiness]

I'm living for your tags. Yes, I'm also of the opinion that Shireen will be wrongly perceived to be the reason Jon was brought back to life. I don't buy that he's DEAD DEAD and the reason he'll be darker is because he was betrayed by his black brothers. He has always done his duty to the Watch and what does he get in return for his honor and duty? A stabbing session. Fuck it all.

Politicking I'm expecting from him aside from Pol!Jon is making a suitable match for Arya like Robb. They will be going on a War and it would need alliances. What better way to build alliances than marriage? Arya will have a one night stand with Gendry as rebellion premarriage and that's how they become canon but without the wedding. Jon will be a villain in the eyes of some of the readers because of his inevitable betrayal of Dany. Add to that if jonsa becomes canon, it would seem like Jon betrayed and got rid of his auntie(who btw will want to marry him) just to end up marrying his cousin. Jonsa,funnily enough, is what will label Jon as a villain and justify Dark Daenerys. Why shouldn't Dany burn KL when it was Jon who deceived her first? Nvm that he wouldn't have to decide to do that if she wasn't a power hungry tyrant in the first place.

ppl who genuinely think that jon should just be a king-consort who doesnt interfere with politics and just lets his wife do all the dirty work should consider themselves opps bc were not reading the same books im sorry to say. ppl r so obsessed with making jon out to be some ambitionless wifeguy and a lapdog and thats literally so annoying bc thats a completely different guy!!! ur making up a guy in ur brain!!!! he joins the nights watch bc hes ambitious bc thats the one place where bastards may rise high hes daydreamed and pretended to be the lord of winterfell as a child hes been groomed by joer mormont FOR leadership and IS a leader now and when stannis offers jon winterfell and val he WANTS it he wants it so bad but refuses it to lead the nights watch. if u dont want that then u dont want jon idk what to tell u

[sailorshadzter]

https://www.tumblr.com/jonnelsansa/722513942441754624/imagine-if-instead-of-aegonys-pathetic-sex-scene?source=share here is my prompt <3

i realize only now that ive kind of fucked up the timelines???

so uh.... lets pretend i didnt lol

also its softer than you might have intended it to be. but i enjoyed this prompt a lot!!! so thank you!!! <3

send me prompts

He’s falling, faster and faster, into a dream of the past. 

Memories all around him, ones that do not belong to him, but ones which paint a picture for him that he should have seen coming all along. 

In another room, she stands just before him, just out of reach, yet somehow just within. “Sansa…” Her name on his lips, it sends chills down her spine. He wonders just how many times they would be in this same place before it became something it always should have been, something they both wanted, but something they could never have. He’s been away all these long weeks and he’s thought of little else beyond her- every waking thought, every dream, always full of her. She smiles, head tilting, red hair a waterfall across a shoulder; she’s beyond perfect, beyond anything he’s ever wanted, ever deserved. 

“... one flesh, one heart, one soul, now and forever…” There are no cheers as the silver-haired groom leans in to tenderly kiss the woman he stands before, a woman who he recognizes even though they’ve never before met. He sees in her the sisters he loves- Arya, in color and spirit, Sansa in grace and build. It’s his aunt Lyanna, the beloved sister of his father, the one who died far too young. She’s smiling as she draws back, the man’s hands cupping her cheeks as they stare into one another’s eyes, as if there wasn’t another soul around them.

If the silvery hair wasn’t enough of a giveaway, it’s the colors of his clothing that tell him all he needs to know. This man was Rhaegar Targaryen and this was not a kidnapping, but rather, a marriage of love. True love. 

Every moment without him… It’s been a long and lonely road, his absence forever in the back of her mind. Everything was a reminder of him- the desk where he’d sit on the edge, leaning in to talk with her. The soft furs of his bed, somehow far more comforting than hers ever could be. The warmth of his touch when she’s had another nightmare… She takes a single step closer to where he stands, the gap between them all but a hairsbreadth. “Jon…” His name is soft upon her lips, the sweetest sound he’s ever heard. They’ve been here before, of course, time and time again. She can’t help but to wonder which time will be the last. 

He’s the first one to reach out, all so his fingertips can trace the soft curve of her cheek, ivory skin warm beneath his touch. All he wants is to take this a step further, to take her into his arms and hold her- not as a bastard brother might hold his sister, but as a man holds the woman he loves. Jon knows it’s wrong, was he no better than Lannister scum? But… He cannot help it, cannot stop it. The feelings course through him each and every day, the warmth of her presence, it all brings him a sense of peace he can never put to words. A sense of peace he never wants to lose, never wants to let go of, no matter what the world around them might say. 

This was where she’s longed to be all this time, all these weeks without him. Now that he’s returned, she’s not certain she can ever let him go again. “Don’t go…” She whispers and he lets out the breath he didn’t realize he’s even been holding in. That’s when he opens his arms and she sinks into his touch, knowing there was nowhere else she wanted to stay.

The dream changes again and he knows he stands in Dorne. 

There is his father, younger than Robb or Jon, rushing up the stairs of the stone tower, following after the screams from within. When he follows after, he comes into a blood soaked room, the only inhabitants his father, a maid, and a woman he once again recognizes as the aunt lost to death. “Ned… Is that you…?” Her weakened voice breaks the silence as Ned Stark sinks to the floor beside her bed, uncaring of the blood that stains his knees and hands. “It’s not a dream?” Lyanna asks tearfully, her quivering lips curving with a smile at the sight of her big brother. 

“It’s not a dream, I’m here,” his father’s voice is not as he will come to know, but young, full of worry. 

Their exchange is heartfelt and sorrowful, their pain palpable. Bran watches from where he stands as the single maid brings the baby close, offering him to Ned without a single word. Somehow, someway, Bran knows what’s happening before Lyanna speaks again. “His name… Is Aegon Targaryen.” She cries softly, looking into the face of the son she will never get to know. “Protect him Ned, please… Robert will kill him if he finds out…” She whispers, weakening, tears wetting her cheeks. “Promise me, Ned…” It’s all she can say now, over and over again as she sinks further and further into darkness. “Promise me…” 

Ned nods, a single tear escaping; it would be his greatest promise of them all. 

He knows they cannot do this.

“Sansa… I…” He murmurs into her hair, breathing in her ever familiar scent, finding comfort in it, even now. Somehow, she knows, she understands, as she always does, for she’s the one who pulls away, knowing perhaps as well as he did what would certainly follow if she didn’t. It was all he wanted, but he knows that it can never be, will never be. Only in the sweetest dream could she be his as he wished. 

“The first meeting is early tomorrow,” she reminds him softly and he blinks, but smiles, a chuckle escaping as he gives a single nod. Tomorrow, everything they’ve worked for, everything that Jon has fought for, would finally begin to pan out. The alliance he’s sought, the fruit of his labor, will all come to a head tomorrow with the first meeting between Winterfell and the dragon queen. “You should sleep,” she goes on, thinking of the many sleepless nights he’s surely endured over these last few weeks, for had she not experienced them herself?

Jon nods, but even when he turns to go, he hesitates. 

Somehow, despite it all, he cannot bring himself to go. “Good night,” she whispers, stronger than he ever could be, and he knows… He has to go. And so he leans in, tenderly brushing a kiss against the top of her head, wishing with all of his heart that it might be her lips. And then… He’s gone, leaving her to sink into the nearest chair, her sorrow falling from her eyes faster than she can wipe them away.

Outside her door, Jon curses, wishing it didn’t have to be this way.

[dinastiatargaryen]

[raffaella-cerullo]

fanart of young rhaenyra x harwin looks so similar to aegony. another reason to hate it.

[sherlokiness]

Jonsa was so hated that every leak was deemed credible/plausible only if they were made by a non-Jonsa. Every theory by a Jonsa was automatically disqualified.

Villain Dany? That's only your theory bc you're a Jonsa. Jon betrays Dany? Again. That's cause you're a Jonsa. Jon choose Sansa over Dany? Jonsa. Queen Sansa? Jonsa.

It's so ridiculous that like those plot points were theorized by Jonsas yet the ship we were so sure about didn't happen. Curios though why our endgame ship is almost perfectly compatible with such endings. Like can you blame us? 🤡🤡🤡

How does the fact that Jonsa is widely considered a crackship and vehemently disliked by the majority of fandom (including fellow Sansa fans) affect Jonsa shippers? It’s a genuine question. Because I think Jonsas make a few points but when fandom is so overwhelmingly united either in favor of or against something, I do believe there’s reason for that

I wasn't around back when the Huge Backlash against jonsa shippers became a thing, so I can't speak authentically about the experience.

It's mostly the abject absurdity of how vehemently dismissive and insulting "enemies" of the theory of jonsa (not merely the ship) treated jonsas, though, that I see remembered and reflected in this corner of the fandom.

Simple disagreement isn't the issue. The abject hate is. Though the refusal to even consider a number of the theories on their actual merit within the fandom is pretty ridiculous. The hints jonsas consider credible follow the same pattern of foreshadowing as, say, RLJ, but somehow very few people doubt that theory. Or get rape threats over it. So the effect is mostly that there's less interactions with hostile factions of the fandom?

Which is sad for them because jonsas have a lot to offer.

In spite of how united the fandom is in dismissing Jonsa theories, they were mostly proven right by the show. Villain Dany? Sansa as an important character in a final leadership position? Girl in Grey? Sansa being instrumental in regaining Winterfell? Sansa and Jon forming a close bond? Sansa reconciling with Arya and forming a strong team? Northern independence?

It's disingenuious to claim Jonsas have no business making predictions because they must be wrong, because they are supposedly incapable of correctly interpreting the hints in the text or in the show. They were not. They were usually right. That's what convinced me of the theory. The evidence.

They weren't even wrong about Jonsa being an option in the show, considering the numerous intentional visual parallels created between Jon and Sansa and canon romantic couples (as opposed to the parallels created between Dany and canon villains), and the weird chemistry between "brother and sister" noted by a number of reviewers. The show ended up going in a different direction in a very erratically constructed final season that most would agree didn't bear the hallmarks of consistent storytelling. So the one thing jonsas got wrong was jonsa itself. In the show, anyway. ("Show, derogatory.")

Still a good average, no?

So maybe the idea that the fandom being united against the theory of jonsa does have a reason. Maybe it's that they hate that it contradicts many other theories that have been popular for a very long time. And that have been proven wrong.

I have nothing against people who don't ship jonsa. I have nothing against people who have given the theory thought but have plausible reasons to disregard it. I have nothing against people who don't care about it at all. But I do absolutely laugh at people who call it a crackship and then support theories with far far far less collective evidence behind it.

[sherlokiness]

The greatest scam the aegonys ever pulled was making the fandom think JD will be this requited true love. This is a popular nine year old meta which has a blatantly false premise. Jon, in fact, did not describe the air as sweet. That was Val/Dany. 💀💀He could not taste even a hint (all is cold) of sweetness when he's with her. I'd have to agree with the last line tho. It really is making a connection about how JD will feel abt each other.

"Which denotes the pleasure he feels at being around her" Ma'am what pleasure?

Her breath was white as well … but her eyes were blue, her long braid the color of dark honey, her cheeks flushed red from the cold. It had been a long while since Jon Snow had seen a sight so lovely

Now this Val is a pleasure.

This is also in line with the wolf howling passage. They zeroed in on the words sad and lonely and went "uwu she's sad and lonely she won't be anymore when they're together"and ignored that those feelings did nothing for Dany's hunger(for power.) Those feelings didn't change anything.They got blindsided with Jon's betrayal and Dany's power hungriness.

[sheepfulsheepyard]

jon: my real name is…aegon targaryen

daenerys:

jon: not to be confused with my brother, aegon targaryen

[tluohsalohcin]

GRRM writing about most Targ history: Madness, consequences of inbreeding, abuse of power, weapons of mass destruction, tyranny, fantasy version of white privilege, imperialism, anti war discourse...

Them: oMg yEeEeS tArG rEsToRaTioN!! fIrE aNd bLoOd!!! jOnErIcE 🙌🙌❤!!! dAniElLe iS tHe rIgHtFuL kWeeN!!! dRaCaRyS!!!

[kadarakey]

That’s the thing, Jon and Sansa’s relationship already has a foundation (shared memories, love, trust, common desire to keep Winterfell safe, they even unknowingly agree on a name theme for their future children). We know they are each other’s type looks-wise. And that’s without Jon’s possible pre-GOT crush on Sansa. When they meet in TWOW, the chemistry will be new but believable.

In contrast, Jon and auntie have one book, at best, to meet, form any sort of believable connection and get accustomed to each other’s cultures and world views (which are… different). “I cannot stand seeing people burnt alive.” “Too bad, it’s one of my hobbies.”

Jon and auntie are doomed by Jon’s parentage reveal, Jon and Sansa are blessed by it ✨

Do you think Jon will love Sansa or D in the books?

I think Jon already loves Sansa as part of his family, even if they weren't as close as he was with the other Starklings. I think they will be the first Starklings to meet again, and that fact will be important to deepen the bond between them that already exists and even evolve into something different, like romantic love.

About his aunt, unlike a big part of the fandom, I never saw the "hints" and "parallels" (more like antiparallels) and "foreshadowing" of their romance in the books. That blue flower in D's visions is more about Jon and his true parentage (and even any daughter of Winterfell), than true everlasting love between Jon and aunty. I don't even know if they will meet in TWOW. According to the author, D and Tyrion will meet in the last part of TWOW and they both are in Essos. So I suppose Jon will meet his aunt in ADOS and I don't know if there's enough time to develop deep feelings between them, no matter the nature of those feelings.

The show did two things that aren't good for their predicted "true love/romance/affair:" 1) enemies to lovers trope, that the author doesn't like very much; and, 2) a repetition of Jon's involvement with Ygritte, that we already know that it did not end very well after the 8 chapters they shared . . . .

It is possible that D will be attracted to Jon, before or after his true parentage revelation, because, after all, Targs usually marry each other, but the fact that Jon's claim to the IT could be stronger than hers can make them enemies more than lovers.

Kit Harington was asked if he believes Jon will be able to love again after D and he said: "I hope so," and he is the one that is pushing for a sequel about Jon Snow; so, I doubt that D will be his one true love or something like the shippers believe.

Thanks for your message :)