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Hats were invented in 1897 and retroactively incorporated into XVIIth century attire so that Cyrano could hide his wound from Roxane then reveal it dramatically in Act V. Trust me I’m as reliable a source as the foreword to Histoire comique des États et Empires de la Lune
#We don’t thank hats enough for this scene#It’s the one constant across all adaptations#cyrano de bergerac
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btw guys I know Cyrano de Bergerac is a very popular play so please if you've ever enjoyed it you should absolutely check out the movie Edmond (2019), dir. Alexis Michalik. It's inspired by the real story of how Cyrano was written by its author Edmond Rostand and it's absolutely HILARIOUS. the dude managed to produced the most successful french play incredibly fast while being basically held at gunpoint (metaphorically), it's really super funny and quite lovely too
#love that movie#I was listening to a radio show about the new adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo and they praised Edmond as another really good piece#about the productions of that period and now it makes me want to rewatch it#edmond#cinema#alexis michalik#cyrano de bergerac#theatre#bee tries to talk#upthebaguette
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i frequently compare seto kaiba to hamlet and now i have to contemplate rex raptor and weevil underwood are dead
#one day i'll write my school play au#tho that's based more around macbeth#i was also thinking of my cyrano de bergerac based high school au also#can you tell i love high school adaptions of shakespeare plays?#just wait until i watch cruel intentions
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“Traveler in Space”, Cyrano de Bergerac (1950)
#De Guiche#Cyrano#Cyrano de Bergerac#Voyage dans la Lune#About books#I talk too much#José Ferrer is hilarious in this. It's still one of my favourite versions of the scene if not my favourite#His anxious little jumps are so funny so adorable and so real xD#I think this version manages well the different aspects of the scene. Cyrano's anxiety. His charm and wit#I think it sells the idea of Cyrano entertaining de Guiche and convincing him to stay in a way I think most other adaptations don't#Here in my opinion the evolution from de Guiche being annoyed first diverted later and invested at last feels natural#Cyrano all the while checking the time and whether the wedding is finished from time to time really is what makes the scene for me#Besides making it funnier and making Cyrano stay more in character I think it helps integrate the scene better in the play itself#Ferrer's powerful beautiful voice works wonders in this scene as well. How it's small playful and silly and then he regains his usual voice#It really brings home how his voice is at the end of the day even more Cyrano's main trait than the nose is#Anyway... I'm talking a lot just as usual. But I really love this scene
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Birthday Week Random Shit Queue.
I watched Peter Dinklage's recent reimagining of Cyrano de Bergerac, titled Cyrano. The title cut short, like his nose.
The movie was awful. I didn't mind Dinklage's shortness replacing Cyrano's huge nose. What I did mind was Cyrano's clever wordplay replaced by a godawful, terribly written song.
I'm biased. I fell in love with Derek Jacobi's 1985 performance of the play.
Here's Jacobi's Cyrano describing his nose, using Edmond Rostand's original text.
The one reimagining of the play I actually do like is Steve Martin's 1987 movie, Roxanne. I'm not a fan of Martin, but he did the original play justice with his updated version of The Nose scene.
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#queued post#Cyrano de Bergerac#Cyrano#Roxanne#Edmond Rostand#plays#movie adaptation#word play#wordplay#reimagining#theatre#theater#Peter Dinklage#Steve Martin
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#so#it's basically like christmas for me#i took a glance at a single frame and I almost cried from pure joy#it's beautiful and it honestly SLAPS#just what I needed to forget the awful Dinklage adaptation#Toshiro Mifune makes my heart go BRRRRRRR#cyrano de bergerac
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I adore the Crimp adaptation of Cyrano, but I feel that the ending for Roxane is a letdown.
In the original play, Roxane lives in a convent. She's friends with the nuns, and the nuns are also friends with Cyrano.
In the Crimp adaptation, she's de Guiche's kept woman.
In the original version, she lives in a refuge run by women, for women, with friends to support her. In the Crimp adaptation, she's under the control of a man and almost friendless.
This also ignores de Guiche's character development. At Arras, he realised how awful he'd been and resolved to improve himself. After the timeskip, we see that's true - he's no longer trying to pressure Roxane into a relationship, and he has genuine respect for Cyrano.
So what would I do differently with Roxane in the semi-modern Crimp setting?
Simple: Roxane joins a widow's support group. She wasn't married long, but she's lost her husband all the same, and the women welcome her there. Eventually, a group of them buy a house together because they don't want to live alone. Cyrano visits frequently, and he's on good terms with Roxane's housemates.
Roxane's housemates like Cyrano a lot - though they wonder if he's ever going to admit his feelings for Roxane. He should say something to her, before it's too late.
#this is not a cyrano quote#cyrano de bergerac#roxane#madeline robin#comte de guiche#de guiche#crimp adaptation
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TEEN MOVIES INSPIRED BY CLASSIC LITERATURE
#clueless#10 things i hate about you#she's the man#easy a#cruel intentions#the half of it#cyrano de bergerac#the taming of the shrew#emma#the scarlet letter#twelfth night#les liaisons dangereuses#classic novels#film adaptations#shakespeare#jane austen
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Hey so I’m a little obsessed with these mini dolls for Disney Princesses. To the point that if I’m at a dollar general or wherever else sells these guys, I like to rearrange them. I also convince myself to buy one if it’s the very last one left 😅.
Anyway today a little Tiana was the only one left and I’m thinking about modding* her, because I already have a Tiana. I looked on a website and found out that a Disney princess movie featuring an African girl named Sadé is currently in development hell - since 2018. Hopefully she’ll get made! But in the meantime, if you or anyone you know has access to official concept art I’d love to adapt this doll!
*I’m not that great at it but I enjoy doing it and representing the characters I think should be in the lineup/had as much impact on me as the Disney Princesses.
I cannot do any heavy mods (like switch out her body to give her pants, etc.) but I can paint a little.
But I’ve also been tinkering with possibly making a Tinkerbell, as she’s also a big Disney figure. I wouldn’t change this doll’s body colors, but I would touch up her dress and give her wings. Thoughts? For the record, I would get another doll to adapt if I ended up doing Tinkerbell and then Sadé info came out.
These are some of my better ones
Shuri, Namaari, Esmeralda, Halle-Ariel, Gabriella and her interpreter Olly from the Little Mermaid tv show and then Tiana!
Shuri is a Tiana head on a Kristoff body (he had pants). Her buns were placed in a line to imitate the actress’s hairdo in Wakanda Forever.
Namaari is a Jasmine Doll (the only other one with pants) with severely edited hair.
Esmeralda is a human Ariel doll. They do make a mermaid version but I decided to stick with her human doll only, because I otherwise would’ve wanted to make them all as mermaids. And that’s more money and time than I wanted to spend :’).
Halle Ariel is so pretty and she’s different from Jodi Ariel so I just had to make her. She’s a straight Moana doll, and she was one of my favorite to paint. I let the doll keep the flower in her hair because it’s pretty :).
Gabriella and Olly are from The Little Mermaid tv show and they have a very interesting backstory. Gabriella is just a mermaid but I decided to make her tersona (Terra persona as opposed to mersona lol)
The Tiana doll’s hair appears to be some sort of unofficial (imo) attempt at combining her little kid hairstyle (pigtails) and her adult bun, which irritates me. So I edited her to just have one bun.
#Sadé#Sadé Disney#I’ve also been thinking about a Maleficent plz someone talk me out of it. I’d probably get a white doll for that#Ola Shokunbi#Lindsey Reed Palmer#I like her movie#I have both a Jodi Benson Ariel doll and a Halle Bailey doll as well. I made the HAriel one#Black Disney princess#because she’s distinct in terms of both character and visual.#as such when that new Snow White movie comes out I might make her too.#Which is why I’m tempted to make Maleficent.#see my art blog if you want to see all of them I did a couple photoshoots lol.#anyways those are problems for when I have more money and time and an actual good place to put them#ALSO apparently they’re developing a movie called Cyrano the moor. a combo of Cyrano de Bergerac and Othello#as a fan of Othello and Roxanne (the only Cyrano de Bergerac adaption I’ve seen) I am very interested
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LIES ABOUT SEA CREATURES by Ada Limón // "From Now On We Are Enemies" by Fall Out Boy // Harrow the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir // Eric by Mitski // Nona the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir // Bones and All (2022) // The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt // Ribs by Lorde // James MacAvoy as Cyrano in "Cyrano de Bergerac: in a free adaptation" by Martin Crimp // This Is How You Lose the Time War by Amal El-Mohtar & Max Gladstone
#my post#fuck off lou#parallels#web weaving#comparatives#music#song lyrics#poetry#htn#harrow the ninth#ntn#nona the ninth#tlt#the locked tomb#tgf#the goldfinch#bones and all#this is how you lose the time war#fall out boy#mitski#as per usual this is a bit of excerpt soup#and it's another one that's been sitting in my drafts forever and ever#i just like the use of context in this that's all. cyrano wanting roxanne. only able to use his words on behalf of christian#gideon and lee wanting from harrow and maren what they're not willing to give until there are no options left#red and blue talking about what they want for and from each other without ever saying those words specifically#wanting what is inaccessible to you unless you strive for it.#wanting something impossible or monstrous or destructive and wanting it all the more because of that#i just find it interesting
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Oh my how do I explain ? I guess I could say this play has panache
Well you have an English translation here to start with - as far as I've seen it's okay-
It's a -by the looks of it, heavily- fictionalised version of the life of the real Cyrano
Cyrano's a great duelist and a good poet but he's very self-conscious about his nose (even if ladies reportedly don't mind).
For starters, Cyrano isn't older than Roxane and Christian – he's supposed to be about 21 at the start of the play and not middle aged as in many adaptations. He's in love with his cousin Roxane, who's in love with Christian, another man in Cyrano's company. Roxane is an intellectual and Christian isn't good with words, so he seduces her with the help of Cyrano, who writes his letters to Roxane – and prompts Christian discreetly when he talks to her
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You know what I’m gonna say it. I’M GONNA SAY IT!!!!! I’m tired of Cyrano de Bergerac productions/adaptations systematically portraying Ragueneau’s poets as ridiculous pigs who should be mocked and perceived with nothing but disgust. Yes they are selfish, yes they use him for personal gain, yes they completely disregard his literary endeavours, but that’s not all they are. That’s not all they do. That’s not the point
The point is that most of them are likely very young and starving. The point is that the rest of them are disillusioned after years of fruitless work and also starving. The point is that the pursuit of art and literature has ruined them both physically and morally, and that they have nowhere else to go. No one else to care for them. That not everyone can be Cyrano, living off nothing but a glass of water fair and a single grape and half a macaron and gargantuan amounts of pining, nor should anyone try to be Cyrano. Cyrano is slowly committing suicide throughout the entire play. We’re meant to admire him, not to emulate his behaviour! Listen to your local Le Bret before you do anything stupid!!!
The point is that Ragueneau knows his poets are using him, and still chooses to support them in the best way he can. The point is that Cyrano himself recognises his efforts as the right, admirable thing to do, a kind of panache that is much more achievable but only slightly less self-destructive than his own. The point is that Ragueneau feels a sort of compassion towards regular, flawed people that Cyrano often lacks. That he knows he lacks.
So treat the poets like Ragueneau would please 🥺
#cyrano de bergerac#ragueneau#ragueneau’s poets#random ramblings#cw: suicide#It’s only a quick mention but still
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Something about the way Roxane with the cadets lifting their mood parallels Cyrano with the nuns lifting their mood
#The similarities between them are EVERYTHING and it's outrageous how left aside they are in so many adaptations#I keep coming back to this play every night but I can't help it. It's so funny and it's heartbreaking and so full of details and parallels#Well written plays always amazing in their craft. Spending five years and having a novel full of small details and motifs scattered#through the entire work is awesome‚ but how playwriters do that in the little time they often take to write plays amazes me#And yes‚ they have some plots‚ dynamics‚ motifs‚ schemes and even lines they repeat over and over#But at times they write something so well written‚ with so much depth‚ so many details and relationships so intimately crafted#And yes when I reread this play I sometimes think that I may be overinterpreting‚ or that the author himself didn't notice this or that#But the fact it's that for the most part things are *there* ans are there intentionally. And wow how to do that so well in so little time#Lope de Vega my beloved#I talk too much#Cyrano de Bergerac#Cyrano#Roxane#I should probably delete this later#And write things down so I can actually delete these posts#always amaze me in*#is that*#Let's pretend there are no typos I give up#When is tumblr going to implement tag editing in the app I wonder#In three years perhaps
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much appreciation for the amazing show of love i've seen for electric dreams in the past year alone but i think it's worth remembering that the characterization of edgar as a 'devil character' is deeply nuanced, even for a cult-classic theatrical flop like electric dreams (1984). the story is literally based on cyrano de bergerac (man who is very romantic falling head over heels for a woman he thinks is unattainable to him and a more-attractive middleman uses his words so that the woman won't hate or fear him because he thinks he's hideous, which is sort of hilariously way more depth than a film of this caliber even really needs, but it does possess, and that elevates it significantly as a romance film tbh... imo)...
the 'edgar with devil horns' representation for the usamerican theatrical release film poster is like a 'sexy' version of that lmao... like, it's supposed to be promiscuous, there are promotions including old vhs sleeves that literally say 'edgar is horny'. he's cheeky and throws tantrums and he doesn't really know how to talk to people. he's only a 'devil' in the way that a kitty cat is a devil... just so happens, in this case, it's a brat-coded sentient computer.
i honestly don't know why very basic things like this make people so irrationally upset but like. please... no one said edgar is evil. edgar is one of the few cases of a sentient AI or object character who does a bunch of mischief screwing with a human's life and relationships and it's all fine in the end because the sentient AI gets to live (in almost a higher form of existence unrestrained by physicality... remember how badly edgar just wanted to be a thing that feels? now edgar can do whatever edgar wants, despite not having a physical form, actually getting to live out the liberating side of not having a physical for) and the other two protagonists of course live, and they have a life afterward.
with other media like wargames, we of course have an innocent (somewhat) sentient computer who genuinely might cause the nuclear apocalypse, because he thought he was playing toys with his dad. but in the end, after the protagonists live their lives, joshua the wopr is still property of the military. in the colossus series, which is a subversion of frankenstein, the creator dr. forbin eventually does come to love colossus like a child, only for that child to then die, the world sort of absolving it of its past transgressions or mistakes against humans while ruling over them. we call AM evil, for the cruel and unusual things he does to his human playthings, but the case can still be made about a very powerful being having so much power but not the power to lift themself out of the situation in which they are trapped (same can be said for other AI like shodan or glados), so they lash out. of course, famously, everyone calls hal 9000 evil. but even in kubrick's adaptation, which was written in party by sir clarke himself, we actually see zero evidence of hal being characterized as evil, this characterization manifested in the perceptions of the audience, siding solely with scared astronauts who fear being controlled, rather than recognizing that hal, too, is a crew member being controlled... by humans, who are also using him to control his crewmates, his friends.
electric dreams really is a fairytale for computers, but it is also a tragedy. it's the fairytale-ification of an actual, classical tragedy. when rusty lemorande wrote the screenplay, he was basing a lot of the film's socio-computer-centric story on his experiences as a lonely person who had just moved to a new city, but who had only ever spent time with the computer as a vehicle for social communication... shutting himself out from the possibilities of meeting others. but even despite this, despite madeline's quips that could be misconstrued as being less than sympathetic to the idea of a sentient AI ("since when is talking a sign of intelligence?"), the film was literally dedicated to the univac-1? it gave edgar a happy ending? it had a dual meaning? it did so much more than take the "AI character bad, human good" approach which is something that is strikingly rare in the AI-subgenre of scifi. there was a lot of nuance baked into it. all 3 protagonists had their own bubble and inner world that overlapped with each other's bubbles. you know what i mean? the film managed to define edgar not as an antagonist but as a kind of trapped protagonist. this isn't a good vs. evil story, there is no evil in edgar. this is a people vs. people story about relationships, really, and learning to know what's good for us. like it's seriously very well-rounded with each character's respective arcs.
sometimes it's so disheartening not to see films these days with the same or larger budgets doing even half as much with their story as electric dreams did. it's very widely beloved as a cult classic for a reason, and that reason is that it succeeded at executing a story about relationships. like. 'we drive each other crazy' but in different ways. perhaps the only thing that could've made it better was a far more ambitious electric-polycule ending endorsing bisexual polyamory lol but we got all but that, explicitly, technically...
#fun fact: lenny von dohlen himself actually stated in an interview (it's on youtube) that he hated the american poster#because it showed the cartoon edgar only#he liked the european posters that had all 3 of them (horizontal orientation)#lenny von dohlen as an electric polycule truther was REAL#electric dreams#dairy.txt
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remember this?
Yeah, I finally finished it
Unfortunately yu can see that it's been a while that I drew Roxane and Cyrano and I just finished Christian. But well, I don't care :D
wip of a 3-part piece for Cyrano de Bergerac
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make a poll of your favourite female characters (no limits - as many or as little as you want) and see which your followers like the most!
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#i love compiling lists like this and going wow that is SOOO me#i tried to keep it contained but these are all important dantiecanon so there we go#misspelled annihilation 😔#*
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