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My thoughts on the champion!Patroclus au are so disorganized I have not slept, but know that the main reason for its existence is that fictional men are infinitely more attractive when sweaty and covered in blood
#i mean i have other reasons#like the study of wrath#and this idea of achilles training zagreus to defeat the champion (by death) and by proxy he will be killing patroclus#and also something aristos achaion something If he truly is the best of the Greeks then why doesn't he come up here and kill me himself? Etc#open invitation to flirt through battle by student proxy#patroclus before stabbing zagreus through the chest: tell your mentor i expected better from aristos achaion#achilles: oh i see how it is
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The thing that gets me giddy is the fact that Logan goes from "Do I know you, bub?" to "WADE! You don't have to do this!"
#i love me a grumpy old man that chose his favorite disaster boy and stands with him#mr rock bottom mcwhiskey dick of the claws imprinted on an equally disastrous boyfailure#YEAH LOGAN YOU DO KNOW HIM#YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE HIM BY TOUCH ALONE#BY SMELL#YOU WOULD KNOW HIM BLIND#BY THE WAY HIS BREATHS CAME AND HIS FEET STRUCK THE EART#YOU WOULD KNOW HIM IN DEATH#AT THE END OF THE WORLD#did i really just. quote#madeline miller#patrochilles#patroclus and achilles#deadpool and wolverine#deadpool#wade wilson#poolverine#wolverine#logan howlett#deadpool 3#deadclaws#deadpool 2024
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on love, even in death
Madeline Miller The Song of Achilles // Rainer Maria Rilke The Notebooks of Malte Laurids Brigge // Romeo + Juliet (1996) dir. Baz Luhrmann // Richard Siken "The Torn-Up Roads," Crush // Keaton St James (@boykeats) Matthew 19:12 // Lana Del Rey Born to Die // @/alessia.trunfio (instagram) // Florence + the Machine I'm Not Calling You a Liar // Michael Cunningham The Hours // System of a Down Lovely Day // Richard Siken "Planet of Love," Crush
#on love#on heartbreak#on death#poetry parallels#web weave#madeline miller#the song of achilles#tsoa#rainer maria rilke#the notebooks of malte laurids brigge#romeo + juliet#romeo + juliet movie#baz luhrmann#richard siken#crush#keaton st james#lana del rey#born to die#florence + the machine#i'm not calling you a liar#michael cunningham#the hours#system of a down#lovely day#achilles x patroclus#poem#spilled poetry#spilled thoughts#poetry#spilled ink
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I feel so unwell
The sadness on Apollo's face too... Oh I am sooo not okay
#a final farewell...for he knew Hector was doomed to die 💔#will I ever stop being sad over Hector's death? No actually#like wtf was Homer thinking#I'm actually feeling so upset being reminded of Hector's death and I feel stupid for that aksjeks#Hector I will always love you 🥹#Achilles#Apollo#Athena#Hector#mine#vase paintings
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DEATH in the ILIAD: an Infographic
(originally 2014, updated slightly for 2023 - hey it's almost as old as Homer's Trojan War was long!)
#tagamemnon#iliad#homer#homeric#ancient li#greek myth#greek myth comix#greek mythology#achilles and patroclus#achilles#paris#troy#trojan war#infographic#death in the iliad#illustration#comix#statistics#information
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how the Trojan War really went
Achilles: My boyfriend just died!
Odysseus: oh thats so sad. Diomedes, lead the charge.
#epic the musical#epic the troy saga#patrochilles#patroclus#achilles#epic odysseus#odysseus#the odyssey#patroclus death#epic headcanon#epic hc#trojan war#the trojan war#hear my headcanon#headcanon#greek tumblr#ancient greek#ancient greece#mount olympus#helen of troy#hector of troy#trojans
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Nestled in the heart of the California Institute of Abnormal Arts, lies the preserved body of Achile Chatouilleu, also known as 'the Clown Corpse.' Achile Chatouilleu was once a performer in the circuses of France, before he met an untimely death under mysterious circumstances.
Dressed in his original clown costume, complete with painted face and garish attire, the Clown Corpse evokes a mix of dread and curiosity. Visitors who dare to approach him often find themselves entranced by the lifelike preservation, a true marvel of mortuary science.
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ngl I'm a bit obsessed with the idea of Achilles's divine counterpart being the protector of youth. Because Achilles himself is a young man and will remain forever a young man, trapped by death in that state of his life without ever growing old
So, in a way, he represents young men in war
Then I think about Patroclus and how he was basically Achilles's death, he basically was the reason Achilles died along with war
That's why I think if Achilles is Apollo and Hector is Athena, then Patroclus should be Ares
He's the glory of the father, the kind of glory that you can only get by dying in war and being immortalized in songs, He's the thing that kills young men like Achilles, the thing youth like Achilles will kill and die for without thinking
#ramblings#the iliad#greek mythology#achilles#tagamemnon#trojan war#patroclus#patrochilles#Patroclus and Achilles' relationship as an allegory for how young men romanticizes war and glory my beloved#stop with representations of dead Patroclus. I want more representations of Patroclus as death itself
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My taste in books: sad queers being unhinged.
#books and reading#book characters#the atlas complex#the atlas paradox#the atlas six#dark academia#these violent delights#the raven cycle#novacaine#the masters of death#if we were villains#the secret history#nicogideon#victor frankenstein#vicious#a lesson in vengeance#vengeful#evervale#summer sons#in memoriam#gauntwood#sirens and muses#plain bad heroines#bunny mona awad#carmilla#raskolnikov#interview with the vampire#the traitor baru cormorant#the picture of dorian gray#the song of achilles
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I cannot fix him and he will make me worse, sorry
#our flag means death#ofmd#literally what happened to stede#also#the magnus archives#tma#loki#the iliad#achilles#star wars#anakin skywalker#baldurs gate 3#bg3#astarion#love wins 🥰#added sorry to show that i know its wrong <3#birdy chirps
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Why did Apollo favor the trojans in the Illiad?
So, dear Anon, I've been thinking about how to answer this question since I got it a couple days ago and I think I kind of want to make something clear before I get into it.
The Iliad by itself as a poem only covers some of the events that occur in the final year of a long protracted conflict that had been brewing for at least two decades and was an active war for ten. Within the space of the Iliad itself, the motivations and affairs of the major players are often referenced but there are many, many parts of the story that are not there because they belong to a different story cycle that has been since lost or was never recorded with words. In the space of the Iliad Apollo's motivations are questioned a lot - his pride is questioned by Poseidon who thinks Apollo should be just as angry at the Trojans as he considering Apollo was treated equally as poorly by Laomedon while they worked together. His honour is questioned by Hera who chastises him for taking the Trojans' side when he'd proclaimed that Achilles would live a long life and prosper at Thetis and Peleus' wedding. His own sister calls him a coward for refusing to fight when Zeus gives permission for the gods to go wild on the battlefield. For all that there's this image of Apollo in the Iliad as some staunch and unwavering protector of the Trojans, believe it or not, I largely think of Apollo as neutral in the war.
Which, I suppose, comes back to the question - why did Apollo favour the Trojans? The truthful answer is that I don't know. The Iliad and all its connected stories isn't something I've done enough research on to have an answer or a reference to an answer off the top of my head. The reasoning I'm aware of is that Apollo was a Patron God of Troy and really a god doesn't need any reason besides that to protect his people but it's not like Apollo abandoned the Greeks either. Calchas is the biggest example of that I can point to - descended directly from a priest of Apollo and one who attributed his mantic power to the god, Calchas was pivotal in ensuring the Greeks even got to Troy in the first place.
From a personal perspective however, I think Apollo was more dedicated to the house of Priam than he was the city of Troy itself. Apollo's affection for that house and all its members ran deep - from his admiration of Hecuba and Hector to his love and attempted courtship of Cassandra to his blessings given to Helenus, Deiphobos, Cassandra, Troilus and even his partnership with Paris - Apollo loved the house of Priam. When you think about the times Apollo lashes out against the Greeks, it's generally because they've done some nonsense to earn his ire. The plague was caused by Agamemnon disrespecting his priest, his aid in the slaughter of Patroclus was because he didn't respect him, his minor grudge against Diomedes too was because he tried to test Apollo's mettle and well, the less said about Achilles the better. Apart from his obvious favouring of Hector in the skirmishes, Apollo doesn't really oppose the Greeks. He has a ton of reasons to by the time the Iliad rolls around, including avenging the death of two of his sons, but he remains mostly satisfied with conducting his father's business and overseeing the war from a somewhat professional perspective. To me, it's always been less about Apollo caring about the fate of Troy as a city itself and more about him just really wanting to protect the people in the city that he's come to love and respect.
Of course, I encourage you to take my words with a big tablespoon of salt - like I said, I don't really know enough about the facts in particular to give a solid, confident answer but I can give you my interpretation of it. Maybe consult someone like @littlesparklight for a more comprehensive and grounded response 🤔
#ginger answers asks#Thank you so much for the question even if my answer was somewhat lacking lmao#For the record btw Apollo doesn't stay mad at Diomedes forever either - he pretty much drops it after the Funeral Games#and helps him get rid of the cursed ass Palladium when he goes to consult an oracle about it lmao#Apollo just generally doesn't fuck with people who have too much hubris for their own good#Like he r e a l l y hates that#But Apollo more or less went wherever he was called and did whatever needed to be done#to keep the war flowing and progressing the way it should#I always find his lack of retaliation against Achilles to be a point of extreme interest#Yes he eventually aids in Achilles death together with Paris but Apollo refrained from getting vengeance against him for years#Depictions of Apollo being held back when Achilles assaults and kills Troilus always ALWAYS intrigue me#And it's always what I think about when I hear people talk about Apollo hating the Greeks or favouring the Trojans#Apollo didn't have any beef with his family at that time and he certainly didn't care enough about any particular human to go against his#family - he says so himself when Poseidon is goading him to fight and yet I cannot help but think about how he kills Neoptolemus#Interesting man indeed#apollo#the iliad
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“And perhaps it is the greater grief, after all, to be left on earth when another is gone.”
#bazpangoart#death note#l lawliet#lawlight#light yagami#song of achilles#I’m sorry#hurting my own feelings
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in the darkness, two shadows, reaching through the hopeless, heavy dusk. their hands meet.
love letter to fanny brawne, john keats // orestes, euripides // wait for me (intro) ("hey, the big artiste"), hadestown // ghost photographs - doug and brenda, angela deane // les misérables, victor hugo // achilles come down, gang of youths // how to become a myth, nikita gill // romeo and juliet, shakespeare // lovers of valdaro // song of achilles, madeline miller // i will follow you into the dark, deathcab for cutie // planet of love, richard siken
#web weaving#poetry#books#tsoa#song of achilles#patrochilles#hadestown#orpheus#eurydice#orestes#les mis#les mierables#grantaire#enjolras#enjoltaire#achilles come down#romeo and juliet#death cab for cutie#shakespeare#nikita gill
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Finally read the epic of Gilgamesh. The relationship between Gilgamesh and Enkidu was compared to that of Achilles and Patroclus in the introduction.
Ah yes a great friendship indeed
Yes I know technically they came first but it’s so patrochilles coded my heart can’t handle them.
One followed the other and left first, two parts of a whole yet fated to be separated, violent grief and questionable decisions…
And historians say they are ✨best friends✨
#homoerotic corpse cuddling#fellas is it gay to love your bestie like a wife#and grieve so intensely you go mad with obsession#Achilles’ obsession with revenging Patroclus’ death at the cost of his own life and humanity#Gilgamesh’s obsession with immortality after having a mental breakdown over Enkidu’s death#the iliad#the epic of gilgamesh#achilles#patroclus#patrochilles#gilgamesh#enkidu
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I saw a Troilus post and that made me have Feels™ all over again. Something that particularly upsets me is the image of Troilus being dragged by his hair to Apollo's altar:
Like even putting aside the fact that Troilus, apart from being Apollo's son, is also a suppliant to Apollo here and to harm anyone in a god's temple is already an unforgivable violation of the sacredness of the place-
Troilus was a little boy or a youth at the most. His hair was most definitely sacred to him. It would have been cut and dedicated to Apollo, the protector of boys, if he had reached his adulthood. But he got dragged by his hair to his death, as if he was an animal being sacrificed to the god. Achilles didn't simply kill Troilus, he deliberately violated everything Troilus would have held sacred to him - his hair, his body, his god's temple...
Achilles had previously killed Tenes as well, another son of Apollo, despite Thetis very clearly warning him not to do so. So all of this was him knowingly spitting in Apollo's face, if you think about it.
#Troilus#Achilles#and he had the gall to accuse Apollo of being the most hateful of the gods#the fucking audacity of this bitch#like no shit Apollo would hate you#and this is also why I always prefer Paris being the one to kill him#because being killed by a god is an honor in itself#and Achilles has earned himself an inglorious death#also to clarify this isn't an attack on Achilles' fans#I don't mind if anyone likes him#i also find him interesting#tbh I'm not as affected by Tenes' death as i am by Troilus' death#it's entriely because of the brutality that Troilus was subjected to#in a place where he was supposed to be safe#it doesn't help that we have quite a few ancient artworks showing the scene of death#ugh#mine
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What is your opinion on old man yaoi? 🤔✨️ ( and by old man yaoi, i mean Lambert/Rodrigue )
i like it! i like the idea of rodrigue being engaged to his wife since infancy (like glenn!) and they love each other as friends (i also imagine she was best friends with lambert's first wife and she was the one who introduced them)! though i do believe lambert likes women too and really was in love with patricia/anselma! i imagine lambert being the kind that falls in love very easily (and with more than one person at the same time) and that would be a torment to rodrigue lol
anyway, i'm a multishipper at heart so there are very few ships i won't at least consider ;)
#ask me stuff#ask me about ships#i love talking about ships#rodrigue achille fraldarius#lambert egitte blaiddyd#lambrigue#forgot to tag#felix's mom is a super cool woman in my mind#though she's a bit rude like felix#i think her relationship with rodrigue became more difficult after glenn's death though#i imagine she unconsciously blame rodrigue a little
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