#abaddina cr

[scriptmyworld]

abaddina is a milf. perhaps even a gilf.

[undead-knick-knack]

Not another person getting lost in the Ludinus sauce ffs

[marvelousbelladonna]

Successful scry on Chetney and Team Wildemount

[numbfandom]

I want all the wacky old women of Campaign 3 to hang out together. Jirana, Morri, Abaddina, etc

[somewhatsentientspellbook]

I FUCKING CALLED IT

Abaddina still has the remnants of her Hishari beliefs underlying her worldview - she still hasn't unlearned the teachings of her cult

[somewhatsentientspellbook]

First of all, pretty much everything here is exactly my thoughts. I wanted to double down on the interesting ways Abaddina has behaved since her appearance.

Naturally, she has a very negative view of the gods. She sees them as oppressive, corrupt, and parasitic and seems fully on board with whatever plan Ludinus has been cooking. Abaddina frames the retaking of the village as a good thing for the community. Still, part of me couldn't help but notice how Matt described her immediately after the Dawnfather's temple was dismantled. He made sure to mention how the spirits and Abaddina were both emboldened by Hearthdell's victory.

Abaddina (as a druid tied to these elemental spirits) has much to gain from the downfall of Exandrian religions. If she gains strength alongside those spirits, it could lead to a subconscious desire to help them by any means necessary, even if it means hurting other magic wielders.

If that interpretation is accurate, it would be a fascinating look into how even the more positively viewed spellcasting classes can fall victim to the commonly seen 'magical superiority complex.' We usually associate this with the evangelical divine casters and the academic arcane casters, though not the overlooked nature-based casters.

What I'm trying to say is I think Abaddina may be prioritising the source of her own magic for a reason (whether that be knowingly or not). I wonder if there will be any other mentions of the potential underlying reasons for why Abaddina would want the gods to fall.

someone's gonna have to explain the reasoning behind "Prime Deities Bad" to me like i haven't spent an inordinate amount of time projecting western religious trauma onto this fantasy setting

[pitviperofdoom]

I think one of the big reasons the current arc of CR stresses me out so much is that it reminds me of real-world political messaging that makes me genuinely angry.

Campaign 2 gave us several tastes of the plethora of world-ending threats that Exandria has sealed away behind divine enchantments and protections, so every time Campaign 3 characters talk about how killing all the gods is probably fine, I think about people who shrug off news of global climate change because what's all the fuss, it's just a little hot weather, stop blowing things out of proportion.

And now here's Abaddina spouting off the same "sometimes you have to destroy society to rebuild it better" horseshit you hear from armchair liberals who talk big but don't think about the real people who will have to suffer the real consequences of that destruction.

[captainsspnanon]

C3E60 - reaction

Sooo.....Sam wearing the die costume just guarantees they all roll a shit ton of 20s, right? I know this happened at least once in C2 as well, did it happen all three times he's worn the outfit?

I have MIXED feelings about this episode.

Let's start with the negative first. Not to quote from the shitty parts of the internet, but I'm really starting to get tired of every PC and NPC basically being anti-gods. I know it's different continents than the previous campaigns, with different themes and subjects, but there's just a feeling of Wrongness that 99% of the people in C3 hate the gods, where in C1 and C2 we as the audience had such positive experiences with the gods. It's a level of disconnect that IS story related, but at the same time feels so jarring that at times it's been pulling me out of the story and really being like 'seriously wtf this isn't supposed to be real world religion stuff'.

Have we EVER seen *missionaries* for the gods before?? In any of the campaigns? Maybe I'm forgetting, but it seemed like in C1 everyone was pretty much worship and let worship, let the non-worshipers not worship and no pressure from anyone, EVEN in Vasselheim. C2 had the legal and illegal gods in the Empire, but I don't recall anyone making non-worshipers have to worship the approved gods. No one without religious faith or inclination was pressured to have it. I suppose there was pressure in the Dynasty, but if I recall we really only saw it from Essek? If I'm remembering correctly, then I think it could have been more of a political thing than an actual religion thing. Better to be considered to be worshiping the Luxon than to vocally be neutral or against, just for respect in court. I don't recall seeing the everyday citizens of the Dynasty having a pressure to believe.

My mom joked at the beginning 'christian missionaries' and I immediately shut it down because CR doesn't do that, but then this episode pretty much DID do that, and it felt super SUPER weird and out of place. Again, it's Issylra, where we haven't been before, but to suddenly have this come in after two and half full campaigns, it just feels Off.

Yeah, that's my only 'negative' of my reaction to this episode. I'm really looking forwards to when, hopefully in another 60+ episodes, I'll be able to look back and fully see what Matt was building to and leaning towards, but right now, I cannot see the bigger picture.

OKAY, LET'S TALK POSITIVES.

I'm now 100% sold on Bor'Dor. Whatever I was feeling last episode that had me not connecting? GONE. Bor'Dor is fantastic and I love him. Deni$e is constant hit after hit, no losers here only winners. Very much interested to see what Emily's been hinting about with Prism. Private goal that she's hoping the group will help her with? Considerable interest in theft, to the point of thinking of it as the first option? Building resentment of having to study for her magic versus the scorcerers who are getting it with ease (nicely creating an interesting parallel with Ludinus)? LOVE IT. WANT TO KNOW MORE.

LOTS of lore drops in this episode, but it didn't ever drag for me. Voices from Matt threw me a little bit, the guards at the end were basically just Xandis's voice, and my mom pointed out that Proleff's voice was very very similar to Donnie Boy's. I suppose this is the eventual downside of watching all the campaigns, really starting to notice Matt's repeats more and more. ON THE OTHER HAND THAT STRONG BAD WAS SO PERFECT OMG.

I suppose I should have counted this as a bit of a negative, but a lot of the Abaddina stuff also felt...Off. Well, admittedly, this is coming from a white woman, but something about her physical description just hit a little to close to Mystic Native for me to be super comfortable with it. Being too sensitive? Likely! But it was there.

The more she spoke, the more it felt really cult like, scarily close to the US political landscape at times. Especially because the way she was describing it almost made it sound like she didn't have a problem with the gods per se, just their followers, until Ludinus's speech and suddenly she's a true non-believer and gods much be destroyed. My mom speculates that there was some sort of charm from his voice, I don't know.

.....Also was I the only one who thought that the elemental spirits (i'm not even going to try to find the proper names for them) could be the titans?? I could be WAAAAY off here, but it struck me hard.

The rebellion reminds me SO MUCH of the Knights of Requital from C2, and it's so funny that we're getting something that was so early C2 now in the 60th C3 episode. I think it was Utilitycaster who mentioned that now with the party split they are able to do more low-level campaign stuff that got skipped early on in favor of the Ruidus plot, and yeah - it really is feeling like that, but in the BEST way.

Next episode is going to be CHAOS, and may be LONG. I am expecting lots of casualties, sadly. I wonder if Matt will actually have the 60ish villagers participate, or if there's only going to be a handful that actually ever hit initiative.

[marvelousbelladonna]

Ashton talks to Abaddina a little bit about their past

[marvelousbelladonna]

Laudna HAS had a tough existence and being away from her emotional support Imogen is not helping