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mooniety · 2 days ago
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i would like to provide an explanation or answer to your question about why fans of the ship enjoy metasusie in a nonchalant way: it's not because we ignore canon, it's because that's how we individually perceive canon & the headcanons we formulate surrounding our interpretation of it!
a lot of people, including me, like to see the "what-ifs" even though they'll probably never happen --there's a reason why alternate universes & fan work for crack ships exist!
& when you consider the fact that multiple people with diverse backgrounds ship the ship, you will inevitably see different interpretations of the ship rather than an echo chamber of ideas
metasusie shouldn't be restricted to a toxic one-sided relationship just because a few people prefer it that way --even the concept of "toxic & one-sided" itself can be interpreted differently, ie. what if meta knight had more control over the relationship than susie. sure, i don't think many would like to see that (or maybe they would) but it IS a valid interpretation of metasusie!
even if people are ignoring canon for the sake of shipping a ship, there's no reason why they shouldn't --people are allowed to & should be able to explore morally subjective/gray topics & ideas as well as see what they want to see instead of feeling at fault for wanting to go beyond what's canon or interpreting it differently from the majority
besides the whole canon part though, i feel that other things should be addressed within your original post, specifically this argument:
"That, or they're sometimes homophobes who want to latch on the first heterosexual ship they see. They make those two stereotypical depiction of both genders. Those, are the absolute worse, for obvious reasons, and albeit they're not the only ones who turn Meta Knight and Susie into people they're not, they always do it in the worst possible way : making MK a strong, masculine knight character who can't feel pain and Susie a cute, feminine and smart scientist who needs to be protected and can do no wrong, so the pink character and the blue character are the most gratingly stereotypic ship to ever exist. I see it often, wether intentional or not. It's so wrong and sexist in both way and is probably the worst iteration of the ship to ever exist. Men can feel pain and have trauma, and women can do fucked up things for fucked reason and be fucked up."
although you argue that metasusie fans are being homophobic & sexist (i know you've stated in multiple reblogs that you're not judging the fans & instead the ship, i'm going to be blatantly honest: this part of the argument IS a judgment of the fans rather than the ship itself), the argument itself is homophobic & sexist, here's why:
labeling people as homophobic for enjoying a heterosexual ship --homosexual people can in fact enjoy heterosexual ships, & it's not limited strictly to people who identify as heterosexual or bisexual. gay & lesbian people can enjoy heterosexual ships, just like how heterosexual people can enjoy gay & lesbian ships
implies that it's sexist or wrong for women to be feminine &/or men to be masculine. it is not wrong for women to be feminine & men to be masculine as much as it's not wrong for women to be masculine & men to be feminine
i imagine you don't actually view these topics as rigidly as you present them based on statements such as "Men can feel pain and have trauma, and women can do fucked up things for fucked reason and be fucked up" & "Altough I like it (moderatly), I just don't understand why you'd ship that over stuff like Metadedede, where the characters have an at least friendly relation in canon," but complex topics such as gender & sexuality really can't just be simplified into "it's homophobic to enjoy a heterosexual ship" or "it's sexist for women to be feminine/men to be masculine" as these statements completely go against the concepts they represent
i understand that it's much easier to carry out your argument this way, but ultimately it just doesn't work & basically placing a bandaid on a stab wound --it just doesn't cover everything & can make things much more worse.
please still feel free to share your opinion, but please don't throw around harmful labels that cannot be proven/can be disproven if you're genuinely curious why people ship a ship the way they do because it's fairly simple to answer: that's how the person interprets canon as well as making what they want to see, just like how you want to see one-sided metasusie being treated in a serious manner! (you could also make content for that depiction of the ship as well, especially since there seems to be an reasonably sized audience for that)
you might not like other people's interpretations of metasusie & canon, but without variability & different takes, there wouldn't be any new ideas
i hope this reblog doesn't come off as antagonistic, passive aggressive or accusatory, i just felt encouraged to write this after reading through your reblogs with shippyo & gaining a better understanding of your stance regarding the ship through your responses to them. i wanted to provide an answer for why people enjoy metasusie the way they do as well as share some of my own grievances with your post since homophobia & sexism are topics i believe that should not be treated so lightly --i felt that they were being used for the sake of making an argument sound correct rather than any genuine concern for possible homophobia &/or sexism. i especially don't want to see these same homophobia/sexism arguments used in a future post against the ship by people who are just blatantly looking to create discourse
Guys, I really need to rant about Metasusie rn. Like, I don't dislike thoses who ship it, but I have such an absolutly visceral hatred for the ship itself my hands are literally trembling right now. If you dont wanna hear me rambling about how much I hate it, then just pass. Chances are I won't be very polite and organised.
So as time progresses I keep seeing more Metasusie. I feel like now's a great time to remind people why this ship is so controversial in the first place by explaining why I and so many others dislike it. Here I go...
Okay. First off. Why the heck would you ship two characters if the only thing we know ever happened beetween them is one of them at the very least ordering (possibly more) the other to be captured, modified and enslaved against his will, and the others time we see thgem together, he literally can't interact of his own because of that, while she is either about to force him to exterminate his own friend, or she is straight up presenting him like he's a non sentient toy she's about to sell ??? Along with fact that Susie calls MK an it in the second cutscene , and that the only time we ever see them interact in game (albeit possibly not canon) is him running away from her, and her chasing him ?! The fact that some people wiew that as a cool starter to a ramantic relationship is is worrying to me.
I feel like some people ship Metasusie out of spite, if that makes sense. They see a ship that's hated on a lot and they want to play devil's advocate. I understand, really (my own "devil" has black, torn off wings) . But even then you still have to consider what makes the devil hated in the first place. There's a lot of wrong in this ship you just can't ignore.
Most of the fans ship them for natural reasons ; because they look cute together, or because of their common points, and they usually just ignore the implications it has. This is understandable, again, but, if you want to ship those two in a cute way, you have to staight up rip away all the unethical stuff. To do that, you have to undermine Susie's terrible actions (or pretend it never happened), to make her cute, to ignore her character. In other words, you have to woobify her. For Meta Knight, it's no less bad, because he's a victim of mechanisation, like many others, and implying it was'nt that important is just kinda dumb (If that was the case, why would the Haltman company be the game's villains anyways ?) . When I say you can't ship those two in that way, I mean that you have to either mischaracterize them heavily, or retcon what happened beetween them to make it work.
That, or they're sometimes homophobes who want to latch on the first heterosexual ship they see. They make those two stereotypical depiction of both genders. Those, are the absolute worse, for obvious reasons, and albeit they're not the only ones who turn Meta Knight and Susie into people they're not, they always do it in the worst possible way : making MK a strong, masculine knight character who can't feel pain and Susie a cute, feminine and smart scientist who needs to be protected and can do no wrong, so the pink character and the blue character are the most gratingly stereotypic ship to ever exist. I see it often, wether intentional or not. It's so wrong and sexist in both way and is probably the worst iteration of the ship to ever exist. Men can feel pain and have trauma, and women can do fucked up things for fucked reason and be fucked up.
This ship has yet another infortunate message. The Haltmans are obviously a metaphor for colonialists. A colonialist having romantic relationship with a person who was colonised, is basically what this ship is. And if you know the slightest bit about that in history, you've probably understood why I feel so icky about this ship, knowing this is a possible comparison.
There's also those who ship one sided, fucked up Metasusie. This is maybe the one of the two only ways to ship those two without mischaracterisation, and the only one I actally like. Not only because I love angst, but also because it actually acknowledges that the slavery, the kidnapping, the mind control, the colonisation, all of that, is fucked up, and that it should'nt be a relationship. (My own interpretation of this, if it interest you, is that Susie has such horrible trauma with her father that she does'nt know what a healthy relationship is anymore. In the absence of her father, she goes to the only person she has a speck of admiration for, and thinks it's love. In her skewed idea of love, the partner has to follow blindly what she says and constantly be under her control, so when he resists, she just think he needs to be "tamed" more. Meanwhile, MK is traumatised and just wants to escape. Eventually she learns that it's more coping than loving and leaves him alone.)
Altough. Some of those people treat the ship, in its unhealthy form, as a good thing. To them Soos and MK are inhuman people who love by hating. But like, unheatlthy relationships are not a good thing. I only like toxic Metasusie if it's treated as a bad thing.
Finally, some shippers actually give both Susie and Meta Knight character arcs, where she comes to understand she is wrong and he learns how to forgive her/cope with his trauma. Not my cup of tea, but honestly, that's based. Altough I like it (moderatly), I just don't understand why you'd ship that over stuff like Metadedede, where the characters have an at least friendly relation in canon.
That was long, but in the end, if I can't understand fully why it's shipped, I can stand Metasusie if it acknowledge both character's flaws and and Susie's terrible actions. It does'nt happen often however, as most instances I see are sadly just idealised, woobified, mischaracterised versions of them randomly loving eachother without context. I won't (and can't) stop people from shipping them that way, but I'll keep being against it.
Wow, after this, I actually kinda feel better. I ended up being more polite than I thought, too. I guess I needed to get this out of my chest somehow...
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aliensupersyn · 11 months ago
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Love, Isolation, and Heavenly Restrictions
"Love is worthless" Sukuna vs. "I don't have a heart" Maki.
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NOTICE: This was written after the end of 251, weeks before 253's serialization.
TLDR: My case for why Maki will play a pivotal role in killing Sukuna, and showing how her character arc has led to this exact moment. In other words, she's gonna humble the King of Curses. Skip to section four if you don't care for a summary of their combined arcs. Here's the reddit thread if you're into that sort of thing.
I. Fate
Love and isolation have been major motifs throughout JuJutsu Kaisen, mainly concerning Sukuna and Gojo; both these characters satisfy a fateful premise in jujutsu: the existence of the strongest sorcerer of a generation or era. Sukuna, Kashimo, and Gojo all hold the title of "strongest sorcerer" for their respective eras, and for the sake of this post, I will call it a fateful role.
I say fate because Tengen and the omniscient narrator refer to fate as something real that connects certain roles throughout the different eras. For example, it has been Kenjaku's fate to be stopped by a six eyes user.
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Toji's existence as an anomaly beyond the power of jujutsu allowed him to break the chains of fate and change the world. By killing the star plasma vessel, something fate was constantly protecting, he opened the doors for Kenjaku to complete his ludicrous plan of merging all Japanese citizens with Tengen.
II. Visual motifs between Toji, Maki, Gojo, and Sukuna
The main (obvious) connections between Toji and Maki:
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While Naoya was an idiot, his comparison between Gojo and Toji was not random and should be acknowledged. He recognized the two of them as being the pinnacles of strength. Though, Naoya did not have the sense to understand what Toji and Gojo represented: jujutsu and the rejection of it. Naoya could never occupy the space that Toji and Gojo did. Not only due to his lack of power, but also because he doesn't have the same Heavenly Restriction that Toji and Maki share. Moreso, Toji and Maki represent the antithesis of the strongest sorcerer by being the strongest beings beyond jujutsu sorcery.
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Toji, and Maki by extension, have been narratively connected to Gojo, who satisfies the fateful role of strongest sorcerer. Toji's connection to Gojo mirrors Maki's connection to Sukuna. The backstab in 251 seals this connection between the two pairs (will come back to this).
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Gojo thinks of the last time he's ever feared loss, and remembers Toji. I believe Sukuna will have a similar moment where he fears loss by Maki's hands which will mirror this page.
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Gege has left little crumbs throughout the story connecting Toji and Gojo, depicting Toji to be the antithesis to jujutsu, and finally connecting Toji and Maki. While that's commonly understood, I don't think enough people respect the fact that Toji, Gojo, and Maki's connection meets Sukuna in the end. Gege has tied all four of them together in the narrative, and that's sure to have some major payoff.
III. Love and Isolation
Yorozu, Kashimo, and Gojo all misunderstand Sukuna as being lonely, the latter two projecting their feelings of dejection onto him.
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Gojo and Kashimo's sentiments were useless, as Sukuna completely rejects love and calls it worthless. He's not lonely because he's the strongest, he's the strongest because he's alone! Sukuna has evolved past being a human who needs love and he does only what satisfies his own desires. He eats what he wants, he kills what he wants, and he makes anything his own amusement if he wishes to. Sukuna represents a completely selfish outlook that takes and rarely gives. The only thing Sukuna gives is death, and even that he withholds from people who do not interest him.
While Maki appears as being cold, she still cares for her friends. Even before her and Mai made up, she still showed love for her sister, but refused to belittle herself for the sake of their relationship. Maki represents a person who refuses to allow love to hold her back.
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Even though Maki gained new powers after Mai's sacrifice, she still could not reach her full potential because she was modeling herself after sorcerers, which she can never be. Maki and Toji can see curses, but relying on her vision only held her back. Her last fight with Naoya was about her finally breaking away from jujutsu's holds and becoming free. First she cleansed her family tree, her namesake that literally connected her to jujutsu, then she freed herself from thinking like a sorcerer altogether.
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Finally, she became a demonic fighter. While she appears cold, she still cares for others. She doesn't regret Mai's fate, but instead embraces it and their relationship. Maki's still a heartless fighter, but one who can express care and concern for her allies. She's selfish enough to refuse to allow others to hold her back, but loving enough to protect those she cares about. Sukuna similarly refuses to be held back by love, and therefore cannot be lonely. Maki exists somewhere in the same realm of being loveless, but not nearly as much as Sukuna.
While the two of them share a heartless attitude and a monstrous demeanor, they exist as complete opposite beings. Sukuna's the greatest and strongest model of jujutsu, and Maki's the absolute antithesis of sorcery. Both of them stand alone in their respective extremes, and again, are alone because they are the strongest. Maki's vision of curses, her last remaining connection to jujutsu was hindering her ability to grow stronger; she was blind to her own abilities because of sorcery. Gege makes it obvious that Toji and Maki break the rules of sorcery. Meaning, Maki will be Sukuna's downfall.
IV. Maki's Advantages Over Sukuna
Toji and Maki are the only two of their kind to ever exist. Therefore, Sukuna has never fought a being, a monster like Maki in his entire life. Megumi never found out about Toji or his abilities, so Sukuna still does not have a reference for Maki's abilities. He may be able to recount Megumi's fight against him, that's very limited information, especially because Toji was not full strength. Maki has the element of surprise.
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Maki's backstab leaves many questions. The narrator specifies that Sukuna should have been able to sense a sorcerer performing the backstab, but he failed to sense Maki; she is not a sorcerer, but an anomaly, a monster who is not beholden to jujutsu or sorcery. Sukuna's lack of awareness could be because he's been weakened, but he's failed to notice Maki before.
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Many people misinterpret this panel to be Sukuna surprised by Maki's aura, but I disagree and argue that he's shocked that he cannot sense her. Both Yuji and Sukuna are suprised by her sudden appearance. Due to Maki not having any cursed energy, Sukuna cannot sense her power and will be forced to rely on sight to find her. Yet, Maki needs neither sight nor cursed energy to fight curses. Maki senses the air's temperature and density, a sight only she possesses that gives her an advantage over curses.
Also, Sukuna sensed that Maki was a problem and thanked Uraume for possibly taking her out:
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The top four seek to stop the merger and sever Megumi from Sukuna's body, and Maki possesses a sword that severs souls! Sukuna has been worn down until his cursed energy matched Yuta's, who's now number one since Gojo's died. Keep in mind that Gojo was worlds ahead of Yuta, so Sukuna's power has plummeted and he needs time to recover.
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Sukuna's inner monologue in 250:
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Maki has the Heavenly Restriction, the sword, the sight, and the timing needed to be able to face Sukuna and possibly even defeat him. Gojo, Kashimo, Higuruma, Yuta, and Yuji were all a means to an ends to weaken Sukuna until Maki could come and clean up (I'm exaggerating).
Maki's entire character arc has been about her clashing with Sukuna. Maki, the monstrous human w/o CE vs Sukuna, the monstrous once-sorcerer with the most CE. Their fight will be about both their ideals and powers. Is strength truly isolating? To what extent does the monster cast aside love? Can monstrous strength be used to protect others?
Edit:
Sukuna's domain may be the only one that works on her (and Kenjaku's but he's dead) because they don't have barrier mechanics. As pointed out by SwimmingStreet8981, "Sukuna showed that he cuts absolutely everything in his domain. He turned buildings to dust without even trying."
Either Gege restores Sukuna's domain to turn the battle once more, or the domain battle with Gojo was for the sake of the top 4 not having to worry about Sukuna's domain. I think the latter tbh.
Questions for their battle:
Now that Sukuna's down to two hands and one mouth, and Maki might be the fastest person in meta at this moment, how much deep shit is Sukuna in?
Will the soul splitting blade be the key to stop the merger? How does that even work against Sukuna?
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companionplanting · 2 years ago
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This shitty Harry Potter game has been making my blood boil so let me get personal real quick.
I am not Jewish. This body is not Jewish. Didn't grow up with Judaism, or practicing any of those beliefs.
But for the majority of our life on this Earth, for whatever dumb reason, people believed we were Jewish.
I was beaten to a pulp, made fun of, called names for years on the simple fact that people thought I was Jewish. Teachers would not intercept. No adult would try to stop it.
"They're just expressing their own personal beliefs."
This followed me from when I was about 5 or 6 all the way to my adulthood. I would have everything threatened towards me, people trying to come to my house to hurt me.
Of course over the years they found more reasons to try and hurt me (being queer and disabled for starters). But from the very beginning people hated me because they assumed I was Jewish.
Despite this, I will never fully be able to understand actually living as a Jewish person. I was never Jewish and I don't practice any similar faith.
But when I hear desperate calls for help from actual Jewish people, begging and pleading to not give money to antisemitic bigots who will fund efforts to hurt them, I unfortunately still (on some level, not entirely) understand where they are coming from.
JK Rowling is not the only one you will support if you buy the game. You will support the game devs who share the same exact views.
The only difference between Hogwarts Legacy and donating directly to antisemitic causes is you're getting Nazi Propaganda The Game out of it.
I do not care if this makes you feel bad, because it should.
-🍂 & ☣️
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sharonisthebettercarter · 1 year ago
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Thinking about what you said, I think it's highly probable Madelyn Stillwell raped Homelander when he was 14 or 15.
That's around the age he got stuck at, right?
I think fandom is probably right about her doing it as more of a means to control him than anything, but I think you're probably right about this making it worse and meaning she did much more than has been shown to us on screen.
Regardless, I think this would have to be the case and I would say is even implied, but you are absolutely right that it shouldn't matter why someone decides to be a child molester.
They're still a child molester and whatever reasoning they have, the act is still vile and inexcusable. There even being debate on that in fandom just seems like grooming apologism and abuse dismissal because of favoritism towards Madelyn.
But the results and actions are ultimately the same in the end. It's also implementing a clause to make it mutually exclusionary when it could very well be both.
In the final scene, she swears to him that she loves him but is afraid of him and Homelander thanks her for finally being honest with him before killing her.
What if she was being honest or at least believed her own words when she said she loved him?
And the other scenes between them never struck me as a one time deal or the first time something like them happened. He does look off put in some ways and not quite uncomfortable, but almost like he's regressing when he's with her. Like she maybe used to do that sort of stuff more frequently and hasn't lately.
The scene where they're finally together struck me as more regression too. He immediately apologized to her and she consoled him like it was something that has happened before and she was used to it from him. Even the words she used and the way she said it and the way things were.
"My special sweet boy." "You did good." "That was so lovely."
Do people really believe this or similar can't have happened before with the things she says? To me, they indicate the exact opposite of that thought.
The scene looked almost like it was his first time, and obviously not hers. But the only way that really makes sense is if he is experiencing a moment of regression, possibly to his actual first time with her.
The scene feels like mother and son incest after years of abuse where she's deliberately causing his regression and enjoying the power it gives her over him.
She's a predator and this to me is made pretty clear if not explicit.
OOOH~<3! my darling anon, i wish i could fucking kiss you<3!
you just put into a word exactly why i could never get behind the homewell ship or the homewell type elements being used in other ships in fics that were supposedly trying to *heal* him. easy way to get me to check out for a fic because you *CANNOT* use elements from someone's trauma and abuse, legit full on *exploit* them, and *then* dare to call it or frame it as *healing* and expect it all to be hunky dory, that is just not how that shit works. (at least speaking in terms of medical accuracy/no wonder this shit is so triggery for me, this ain't supposed to be fuckin' disney--)
obliviously or dismissively predatory, so not even in the fun way...
and i want to be clear here, because this isn't me trying to tell people to not like the ship or elements or stop making content for them or whatever the fuck else. i don't care if people have or indulge in toxic guilty pleasure ships or stories here and there (literally have my own), but i always think we should be self aware of our own shit (plus ranting is sometimes good for the soul~<3) and it really *really* shows some people just are not in this case.
i *also* know people don't always mean to set up that way, part of it is a major problem with society (i will get to that~) and the only way for people to be aware is to be *made* aware, butt~
"--you think love is to prey, but i'm sorry i don't pray that way!"
"once i ran to you, now i run from you, this tainted love you've given--"
1000% correct. madelyn, regardless of what happened *off screen* between her and homelander, what we *did* see of her is enough to confirm her as a *predator*, and this was *before* diabolical added to the story behind them. she is extremely predatory as a character, set behind a narcissistic 'mother knows best' filter and a lot of it has nothing to do with homelander.
look no further than starlight~<3
this woman attempted to get a victim of rape to have 'discretion' about what happened to her, TO HER FACE. and every step of the way, tried to bully starlight into 'line' for the company. literally using narcissistic abuse--guilt tripping and shame, questioning her core values, fucking gaslighting (all things we see homelander copy oh deary me what an *odd* cowinkidink!! I WONDER WHERE HE LEARNED IT FROM.)--among others with a 'motherly' frame and 'it's just constructive criticism' (BITCH NO IT AIN'T!!) to manipulate her into doing what vought wanted/what was best for the *company*, NOT for annie.
hell, i'd wager she fucking hired starlight *specifically* because they thought she'd be an *easy* target.
she was *vulnerable*, nearly alone in that big city. her only relative/support system was an extremely religious mother who was *pushing her* to push through any pain or abuse and still wear a smile *for vought* and *for her* because of *fame* and *fortune*, framed as *for annie* when no it def wasn't. (i do like that starlight's mum actually becomes self aware of this and tries to amend the trust she broke, but i digress)
her tapes and everything they showed us about starlight showed us a wide eyed, bright eyed girl who was *hopeful*--but also naive... and as much as it pains me, that would have made her more susceptible to vought's machinations.
and i think the main reason annie didn't completely fall down the vought victims rabbit hole is in part due her truly good nature<3, but also because she met *hughie* (side note, notice how every time hughie and starlight have a falling out or separate from each other, they both start to get *worse*. butcher also tends to swoop in--)
it doesn't get talked about enough, but butcher pulls the same kind of bullshit with hughie (honestly probably why i could never quite feel right about butchie, do still like it but i do prefer it if butcher catches some guilty complexes causa hughie lmao), another good kid who's just had something monumentally traumatic happen to him and is in a super fucking vulnerable place where he'd be easy to manipulate for whatever it is butcher has planned.
he scoped him out and *saw* that, something to *use* to his advantage. and recruited him as such. like a gotdamn predator.
the wrench in his plans (as well as madelyn's) came in *hughie meeting annie* because they *gave* each other a solid support system because they were both good people, dealing with trauma, who found each other~<3 (always a hardcore hughielight shipper)
and butcher even *knows* this, he *knows* annie actually *honestly* and actually HELPS hughie and ruins his plots for him, so of course that mofo is gonna keep trying to ruin everything and break them up. if madelyn had ever discovered hughie, she probably would have done the same shit if in her own faux 'concerned mother' way.
BUTT... you are absolutely right in saying that fandom is highly dismissive or even apologist of what madelyn did to homelander (like they are with fuckin' everything that happened to him honestly) and it doesn't matter what reason she had to abuse him, what should be looked at is the fact of the matter.
did she abuse him? yes or no
the answer is yes, period. asking if she was actually attracted to him or just wanted control becomes a moot point after that, she *still* fucking groomed him. people can go ahead and debate the other factors, but the least they could do is acknowledge the first bit and not use the others to try and deny or 'lessen' the gravity of what she did.
i blame part of this on ableism and victim blaming, but also with how dismissive people *still* are when it comes to male victims of just about anything. christ, we still have people in fandom who have watched the show and *refuse*, not hyperbole, they downright *REFUSE* to acknowledge that homelander could have *any* semblance of victimhood whatsoever. despite the fact that he was literally tortured as a child and fucking groomed and we are given glimpses of these facts on screen, they'll deny any form of nuance and paint it as completely black or white, because he became... pretty much the only thing that fate allowed him to become.
that's not limited to this site even, it's prevalent pretty much in any part of the boys fandom across the web. (which is ironic given the series exists to challenge this sort of thinking)
but how often do we still see cases of a male *child* being sexually assaulted by an adult woman and the fucking judge going, "wElL sHe'S cAnDy So He PrObAbLy LiKeD iT"?
thankfully, not as often anymore. but if i'm honest? TOO FUCKING MANY (once is fucking too many) and the thought is still INSANELY pervasive. and again, it leads back to the question.
did she abuse him? yes or no
it doesn't fucking matter if the kid 'liked it' or not, MA'AM, THIS IS A FUCKING CHILD--
*children can NOT consent*
or in homelander's case, an emotionally stunted extremely mentally ill person. and ALSO a child at one point.
*likewise, mentally ill/special needs/disabled people and informed consent is an issue all its own. all of these are among the most vulnerable to abuse and the least likely to get justice for it*
if madelyn had been a man, nobody would question this. (who am i kidding, i'd like to think that but i am well aware there are apologists of all kinds that would not give a shit and be equally gross about it.)
and you are def right, it *feels* 1000% like *regression* in the scenes he's with her. and now that you mention it, the scene where they're together?? oh, fuck me. anon... that is *dark* and it fucking hurts but you may be right.
it *was* absolutely the first time *we* as an audience saw them together, and i think that may skew the perception about. there *was* absolutely an effort to regain control over him in that instance. but the things she said and the way it plays out... no
plainly, just no... it *does not* feel like the very first time that has happened... it feels like something that is *rare* between them. but definitely something that's happened *before*, and perhaps something she maintains as *rare* specifically to keep a hold on him. (could this be one reason for the diabolical episode?? to further implicate this?)
and even his use of doppelganger hinted at this cause think of it.
a 'madelyn' that is *just* for him, *only* the parts of her that... gave him attention, the bits he *liked*. what she more than likely fed to him as *scraps* to keep him crawling back for more. but because it was never genuine, the confusion from the ratio with abuse was thrown off, and the entire illusion that it ever meant anything was shattered prior (along with stormfront manipulating him), well...
"i give you all a boy could give you, take my tears and that's not nearly--"
down to his hatred and jealousy of teddy. we have to imagine what things were like before she had him but i get the feeling homelander got a lot more attention before then. it was well over 20 years and people honestly think in all that time *nothing* else happened??? things were 'normal' and then boom, *random* mommy kink??? hell, even the kid was maybe just as much a means to 'reset' the balance and help her maintain control as he was for future profit for vought.
OW.
yes. madelyn is a predator. homelander is her groomed victim. and i don't think it gets mentioned enough in this discourse, but one of the biggest reasons predators prey on the vulnerable or even want to make a fucking victim of someone is *because* of the power trip it gives them over that person. (hell, homelander fucking does this *specifically* because it has been done to him his entire life!)
and *even former abuse victims* may not realize it when they pull this sort of shit. i'm not gonna dive into that because it is a fucking *depressing* can of tapeworms, but let's just say i've been there, i know people who've been there, and i know people who know people who've been there. so this shit is a big fucking problem for people when we don't notice it and massively persistent circle jerk of perpetuation.
but it's still fucking predation, it doesn't make a difference if it's done by someone with power/control kink, narcissistic disorder or 'mommy/daddy dearest' vibes, pedophilic disorder, etc. it still fucking harmful and victimizes someone (especially when they are unaware/cannot consent to the powerplay OH FUCK--)
goddammit... i just realized the problem lmao... PISS. POOR. BDSM ETIQUETTE. GOTDAMN.
and trauma management i guess.
basically, people tag dom/sub or top/bottom when they should be tagging a 'control' or 'abuse kink'. dom/sub play relies on the informed consent of both parties while 'control' relies on the lack there of (informed consent) from the 'sub'. and in homelander's case, this shit is particularly bad. (readers need to be given informed consent too!! always tag yo shit y'all!!)
which to be fair, ain't exactly the fault of the ship itself, but more so the lack of awareness/common dismissal on it. it's really hella normalized/often advertised as 'just a quirky lil guy with a mommy kink' when that's not even remotely the only thing at play here and it goes way deeper and darker than that. you toss in homelander's other traumas and it's just... it's a goddamn mess.
and now i understand why i am so incredibly grossed out by fics that push homelander through more of this nonsense (or worse) with a new person (any person) and never bother addressing the trauma he has *directly* related to this shit. (because my traumas directly deal in the control shit yayyyyyyyyyyyyy~... UGH--)
well.
call me a pussy if you must (i am a pussy and a cunt and a dick and an asshole, i wear it shamelessly~<3) but i just ain't all that interested in fics that only exchange *handlers* for homelander instead of actually help him (when that's what they'll claim to want to do). seriously, lining him up with another 'madelyn' of all things just leaves me wishing he could *get away* from his shiny new abuser (because that is what she was, and would ideally be the inevitable outcome anyhow!)
homelander needs at least *one* honest *friend* who genuinely doesn't want anything from him to help him unblur the lines of informed consent that madelyn intentionally muddled *before* he can even make informed consent when it comes to this shit, especially if we wanna *actually* heal that boi (all he's had is more people capitalizing on it over and over if not just people with no clue of the minefield they were navigating)
he'd need to be able to experience true *independence* and *agency* before he decided they were things he actually wanted to put in someone else's hands or 'give up', so to speak, both of which would come *after* healing.
and if i'm indulging in toxicity with him, i'ma make him *get back at his abusers*~<3, give him a chance at some revenge porn for once and make it so much worse for *them*, not the guy who literally never had a chance or got to breathe his own breath (and def tagged properly of course).
but of all the whack ass takes i could see in the sea of fandoms, ANYONE in that position over this boi (or any character in similar situation) as he is *unhealed* is *NOT* his ally and doesn't give an honest shit about him, it's 100% all about *control* over him (which i know is a huge kink for tons of people and hypernormalized in society, especially heteronormativity, but again, trauma central for me so it'd be really fuckin' nice if people learned the difference and also started tagging this shit~<3)
fun for some, but not for me.
i've always generally preferred push/pull powerplay that purposely leaves the question of 'control' open/eventually balances it and helps empower and individualize both characters to be the best versions of themselves, i want them to learn and grow together. positive masculinity/femininity and emotional maturity are way more of a turn on for me and i want these bois and gurls and inbetweens to graduate to *men* and *women* and fairly *reasonable adults* when i write them, while preserving their core personalities and the things that make them *them*.
i also don't view 'bottomhood' as 'punishment'/something to use to deliberately rob a person of control/self determination (as much as we may joke about it, and also that is just rape with a pretty veil that at least deserves to be properly tagged) and i normally focus on empowering them just as much if not more than my tops so it's just damn weird to me to see that kind of mentality get popularized on any character and leik.
gotdamn, first off, what the shit, and second, i realize getting to the places i wanna go reasonably and responsibly takes hard work and pretty intricate writing but please lawd satan tell me i ain't the only one to feel this way, PLEASE!?
but very good point about it possibly being both/more than one element here. control is more likely to be *one* reason, but not *the* only reason and it could very well be a factor of both attraction and need to/getting off on the idea of controlling him (which still stems back to attraction, honestly, even if she didn't feel it towards him the sense of him being a child, it would still mean she feels it towards him in the sense of him being vulnerable which is just as awful, honestly.)
and i do think his stunted emotional maturity is 100% indicative that something *very* specific happened to him around that age (*maybe* she waited till after the debut??), but among all the other trauma, that is actually a question worth asking. why *then* and not any of the other times? he's got no shortage of trauma for his brain to pick from, so what the hell happened then?
as far as it feeling like incest? lil bit, yeah (if pseudo, which obviously we know it's not but i do think the vibe there is actually intended), suffice to say that madelyn is to homelander what billy's father was to him...
and y'know... i gotta admit, knowing this i am surprised we don't see all that much of butcher being shipped with his father because that and homewell are pretty much the same thing on opposite spectrums.
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH--
have fun y'all, as always butt leik... have fun responsibly--gawddammit i never thought i'd be *that* old fart but i guess i am... well i can still be fun about it... tipsy bartender is fun lmao<3<3<3 (altho these subjects are decidedly less fun... *sigh of the long suffering*...)
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capoteera · 3 months ago
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Dear anon, I’m sorry but no.
You can and should absolutely call them out, yes it’s clear something is off and they need help- which is way beyond ours to provide, yet some of the stuff you wrote anon is just down right cruel. Calling people losers and saying they will never find love like that as well, that no one will adore them… you can’t call out people for saying horrible shit while saying equally horrible shit.
You wanna defend Alba from their disgusting shit? do that, but don’t let your defense of her become equally as disgusting. To literally wish a miserable and lonely life on someone (no matter the horrible shit they say)- what you are doing is a form of dehumanization- it’s the exact same thing (dehumanization) they are doing to Alba.
And reminder there are in the fandom pro Alba ppl today who were saying similar nasty shit capt and co are saying… are they not worthy of love too?
And I am only responding because I used to be deep in a similar obsessive angry “she’s awful/narc/bad dresser etc” just with a different celebrity partner many years ago (I was not as bad as capt and co, but bad enough that it’s weighting on my conscience today). And yes my life was empty and lonely and a ton of other shit - that was my dumbass way of escaping my problems, but you know what? comments like yours at that time always drove me even further down the funnel. You know what was one of the things that did break my cycle? When I saw posts and comments analyzing behavior like mine but were doing it with some compassion.
The one major thing I have learned from my experience is that: no one is a loser unworthy of love.
And I can’t believe I am out here defending that group, but here we are.🥴😒🤦‍♀️
I was too and I can very much say that anon was correct in everything they said. They are sad pathetic losers. That group in particular are losers sorry
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pronounmelon · 9 months ago
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So I was tryna figure out: how would the Younique staff fit into my little story?? Several of the characters have pretty cute looks, I didn’t wanna throw em away or make them terfs
well, solution!! For at least a couple of em, anyway.
reminder that TERFs literally CANNOT ALWAYS TELL that people are trans… they are so often wrong it is comical. A TERF bar could more than likely let in trans women without knowing or batting an eye… in my rewrite, Younique only profiled Ginger, Cherish, and Kaiya because they were so open and proud. Often why TERFs pick us trans folk out to begin with!! If you’re too proud, too open, too showy, they’ll try to take ya down. It sucks, but it’s why I’m so proud to be me. I’m so proud of my transgender siblings, because everyday we face the worst from society, and here we are, still standing.
I did change up Shanzay and Parniya’s styles quite abit… god, you can tell that there’s only *one* kind of lesbian Rusty thinks should exist. The diversity of women is a beautiful thing, and I wanted to show just how differently these two butch lesbians can present themselves, because there is more than one type of butch lesbian. (RUSTY.) People should dress how they’re comfortable, however the amount of characters were supposed to like who have the exact, plain style bothers me. People look different, even those within the same subcultures and similar presentations. I want to highlight that!!
Anyway, on to the character bios!!
Shanzay Binti Meriam!! Malaysian-Australian She/They, Transfeminine lesbian
Shanzay used to go to Younique with her girlfriend Parniya regularly, speaking with other regulars who took no issue with their trans identities. Shanzay is a confident woman who runs women’s martial arts classes with her girlfriend and her mother, Meriam. Unfortunately, after learning of the hateful incident at Younique regarding the GAP gang, Shanzay, Parniya, and several other regulars were horrified to learn of the hateful nature of a staff member of Younique. They took the issue to the owner, only to learn that this is standard behavior for the staff, and that a large majority of the staff are loud and proud transphobes. Shanzay and Parniya felt completely horrified that their less cis passing sisters went through this, not to mention that they had given their patronage to such a hateful business. They rallied many Younique regulars to take their leave, and to give their support to the GAP gang, giving their money to the PayPlease fund that would eventually help the girls open up GAP, their trans friendly nightclub. Shanzay now works for GAP as a bouncer, and is good friends with Kaiya particularly, bonding over their shared pride and love for their families.
Parniya Amira Gallus!! Iranian-Australian She/her, Transfeminine intersex lesbian
Standing at nearly 6’8, being transgender and intersex, and suffering from chemical burns at a young age, Parniya is not a very average looking woman. She is very quiet and mellow, and doesn’t wish to draw much attention to herself. Because of her wallflower nature, it’s no shock that the transphobic staff of Younique looked right past her and her girlfriend Shanzay whenever they walked in. Parniya identifies as a butch lesbian, though she still embraces her feminine side often. After finding out about Younique’s transphobia against the GAP gang, Parniya was particularly shaken. Even after rallying other regulars to leave with her and Shanzay, Parniya doesn’t go out nearly as often anymore. She wears much more makeup now, perhaps in an attempt to pass more, like she believes she will run into Younique staff again. Parniya does remote graphic design for GAP, and as a result is well acquainted with Theodosia, and has quickly become good friends with her. They bond over a shared love of old princess stories, as well as their passion for art and other women.
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mrs-monaghan · 2 years ago
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No one is changing fucking narratives. Think about it you dumb idiots. You're in the closet, in a homophobic country, trying to live your best queer life in a glass closet. You leave enough hints about your sexuality & the person you love. Hickeys, GCF Tokyo with a queer love song. People either believe it or don't. And one day you're enjoying a significant COUPLE HOLIDAY in korea, with said partner you did all the above things with & the next thing you know its spread all over the internet.
Now I understand why Jikook are doing what they are nowadays. They were caught together on a couple holiday without members, by locals & since then, Jikook's public outings have stopped. The way JM even tried to downplay White day, which might have worked had he not posted JK on White Day before they were caught out, but still, the fact that he even felt he needed to play down the holiday & even stopped going to that place, should throw up major flags. They've always been able to leave room for deniability, but it's hard to explain a couple day outing. Seems it scared them into becoming more private. That & we have JM's mail stolen & privacy breached around the same time. Jikook obviously felt they could go out & didn't worry cause for the most part their privacy is respected. And now that they were, they been cautious since. This wasn't some premiere outing with two friends & cameras on a random day. We are talking 2 people who have spelled it out they are queer, who are rumored to be dating, who were caught out on their private time together, on a COUPLE HOLIDAY with no other members of BTS & it spread all over the internet. The only duo of BTS rumored to be dating and they are the only two caught out together on a real couple holiday. Yeah, its a big damn deal.
I just know Hybe and The members said something to them day. If they police Jikook during random photoshoots like we've seen or interject, when they are just having fun together, oh you know they came down on Jikook that day & they probably got blamed for it, even tho its not their fault someone took a pic and posted it. The timing of WD & Jikook's public outings coming to stop, is too perfectly timed for it to be a coincidence.
If I had a shilling for everytime someone said coincidence in regards to Jikook I would be a millionaire 😂😂😂😂 when are we gonna give this word up and accept there ain't no such thing as coincidence with these 2??
You wanna know what a coincidence is? This.
JK splashes Jimin 13 times. Their favourite number. Now that, is a coincidence. Because JK would have kept going had Jimin not asked him to stop. That is how u use the word coincidence.
JK using There for you a "gay" song for GCFT is NOT a coincidence.
Jimin appearing at the exact same lyrics during GCF Saipan is NOT a coincidence.
Both Jikook being from Busan, is a coincidence.
This, was NOT a coincidence.
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Them wearing plasters on their fore fingers during a fan meet for no reason was NOT a coincidence
The J on JK's hand been directly ontop of the M is NOT a coincidence.
Jimin having a moon tattoo and JK having a sun tattoo is NOT a coincidence.
Jikook recounted once how they saw ghosts when they still lived at the dorm in their early years. JK said while showering he thought he saw a ghost but it turned out to be RM. Jimin said one time when showering he thought he saw a ghost but it turned out to be Suga. Everyone on twitter was like "aww what a coincidence! You are me i am you" Meanwhile I'm just over here like; Guys, 👏🏾they👏🏾were👏🏾showering👏🏾to👏🏾ge👏🏾ther. Their stories were too similar, that's literally the only explanation. HELLOOOO!!! Y'all give young Jikook too much credit 😂
Jikook posting at the same hour, same minute, exact same second is NOT a coincidence
JK coming live on white day and Jimin showing up in the comment section was NOT a coincidence.
Jikook having moles in the same spots of their bodies, that's a coincidence.
This. Is NOT a coincidence
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They👏🏾sleep👏🏾to👏🏾ge👏🏾ther!!👏🏾
JK allowing an account kookminaredating into his game was NOT a coincidence.
Y'all catch my drift.
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Sorry anon, I saw the word coincidence and went on a tangent but u are correct. With Jikook, coincidence should be used very lightly. And yes to the rest of your ask. 💜💜💜💜💜
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olasketches · 9 months ago
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Hey, I am asking you because I think as an artist you can answer this better.. So I have seen people saying yuuji , wasuke, jin and sukuna look the same. But isn't it just artsyle of gege except for their hair.. Because I have seen most manga characters look the same face wise except minor differences. For example, these people were calling hazenoki the guy who fought kenjaku before takaba and kashimo similar to gojo... By their logic they should be related too.
hey anon! Thanks for stopping by, I’ll try my best to answer your ask.
yuuji, jin and wasuke don’t look the same but they definitely look similar in some ways due to them being related. sukuna also share some similarities with them and yes, the hair seems the most obvious and common charectaristic that ppl tend to notice first but then inumaki had the same hairstyle in volume 0 and he looks nothing like yuuji, sukuna, jin and wasuke. in case of hazenoki, kashimo and gojo, there are some similiraties in their design but to be honest hazenoki’s face reminds me of that one guy from demon slayer who I don’t even know the name of lol and kashimo KINDAAAA reminds me of pre unsealed gojo (he has such a baby face imo), which is probably why gege modified gojo’s design later on and gave him more sharper features. the thing is that when you want to have characters who are closely related to each other to share some similarities you would focus on their facial features the most. I would say that what makes yuuji, jin and wasuke look so similar to one another other are their eyes.
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yuuji could change the colour and length of his hair and he would still probably look similar to his grandpa and father. In sukuna’s case I would say that he shares the most characteristics with wasuke.. but the thing is that the facial features don’t have to look exactly the same. the trick is to get their likeness right to have the viewer associate these characters with each other. hazenoki, kashimo and gojo don’t really have that cause they all have at least one distinctive facial feature that separates them from the other two. like hazenoki and his thick eyebrows, kashimo and his sharper eyes (similar to yuuji actually and YET they look nothing alike cause the don’t have a likeness to each other the way yuuji, jin and wasuke do) and gojo’s white eyelashes. 
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so when you want family members to look related BUT NOT THE SAME (unless their indentical twins) you would focus on their facial features the most (hair colour and hairstyle can help but that’s not what determines their likenesses), but then again it's really not about drawing the exact same features in the exact same way but drawing them in a way that makes them look very alike. I think you can think about it like when you draw a pair of eyes on a small piece of paper and then you stick it to different surfaces that have similar shapes like a balloon and a ball
and then there characters who have similar designs but don't look like they're related to one another cause of this one or two very distinctive facial feature that separates them from the other.
the thing is that, gege is not only a writer but he's also an artist and I feel like the majority of the fandom mostly associates that with his art style alone. art is so much more than just art style tho. it's also what the artist wants to convey through their work. as an artist myself, I believe that he's very much INTENTIONAL about the way he draws and portray his characters. he wants his readers to make certain connections just by the way he designs them (or makes them act or draws their facial expressions). for example the majority of the fandom knew that there must be some relation between sukuna and yuuji's family, not only because of kenjaku but also because they look like they could be related. and this was deliberate on gege’s part.
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lunar-cerulean · 3 months ago
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I should be asleep but I have been reading Over Heaven tonight and I was reading over the last of Dio basically saying he chose to impregnate/let go of wicked women he has been with because he equates wickedness to strong drive to victory and pursuit of happiness which is basically what Dio’s “heaven” is in concept.
IF NOT ALREADY OBVIOUS THIS INCLUDES MAJOR SPOILERS
I am making this whole text post and I am 99% certain no one will read this but at least I’ll have to here to reference back to one day.
Okay so in my AU Dio still has his heaven plan but it is vastly different in execution than the canon. Same concept, different solution sort of deal. So in the canon and in the novel (because novel goes off the canon) Dio needs to find this friend who puts the will of “god” (which would be him) above that of himself or others. How this friend would help him achieve heaven via his code for living, I haven’t read that far or drawn that conclusion. There’s the whole cryptic stuff of the fourteen words and over 36 souls of heinous sinners stuff. I do away with all that in my au, it’s a little more cut and paste and “logical”.
So the premise so far (and very likely bound to change) is Dio wants to achieve “heaven” as some sort of state of true happiness and evolution in power in which he can control fate, therefore eliminate any reason to have paranoia. Dio doesn’t have an exact means to above this, he just knows he is pursuing an end result. He is traveling and looking for a potential friend that would have the ability he needs for this, believing at times he is fated to “bring heaven” and will meet the person he needs to meet because of that whole gravity stuff.
On his travels, he listens to some local myths and legends and becomes curious, going to a village in the mountains (have not determined exact geographical location but within Europe), curious if this “monster tyrant” they talked about was a stand user or something. Cue Reyna (my self insert wahhh). She is a stone mask vampire like Dio, and not a stand user currently. She too like Dio wants to achieve something like his concept of “heaven”, something she thinks of as “paradise”. Whereas Dio’s “heaven” is more of a mental state of being, Reyna’s is quite literal as she literally wants to rebuild the entire system of how life works to be catered to her way of living. To any Christians or those who have read the Bible, you’ve probably heard of the terms “new heaven and new earth”. While completely unintentional, Dio and Reyna’s ideologies pairing is similar to this in a way, one being associated with the spiritual way of things and the other being physical.
Unlike most of Dio’s experiences, he doesn’t have easy influence over her. Reyna has been with other vampires before, she is well aware of charisma and manipulations and is naturally wary of Dio instead of enthralled. This comes as quite a shock to him. As I stated in opening paragraph, Dio values wicked people for their determination. This doesn’t explain much, but to explain why would need a whole post of his own because we would have to delve into his childhood and relationship between his parents which has lead him to this conclusion. Reading Over Heaven, it seems Dio did not pursue women for sex, they presented themselves to him and most of them were his food and he let some of them go… he did not keep any of them nor does it sound like he pursued any. Now we know Dio has a serious rizz game, he doesn’t even need to hypnotize most people. This is lost on Reyna initially, she doesn’t present herself to him. Dio sees her power, smarts, and is curious to know more about this mysterious vampire who thwarts him which leads to him pursuing her as an individual. Through being persistent and playing along with her, they are able to learn more about each other’s goals and Dio learns of her desire for more power, tempting her with the stand arrow in agreement for her to ally herself with him to pursue mutual goals. She agrees. After obtaining a stand, Reyna eventually moves to Cairo to work with Dio on their plans since achieving “heaven” (in this case securing the future and obtaining the power to rewrite fate) would also lead to “paradise” (recreation of the physical world). At first they live separately and would meet to discuss plans. The more Dio thinks about using Reyna, the more he realizes how he may achieve his heaven. Just as Pucci and Dio (honestly I have no idea what actually happened) had their stands come together and create MIH, in this AU, Dio considers the possibility of fusing his willpower with Reyna’s to create a stand stronger than both theirs combined, believing that this willpower could “will heaven” to be achieved. By this, Dio is thinking in less abstract terms like what happened in Stone Ocean… he’s thinking about impregnating her. This also leads to more thought because it’s not as simple as just getting her pregnant and sending her off to live life, he feels the need to groom this potential heir into the person he needs to “will heaven”. To create the “best” environment to groom his child into “greatness”, it would be ideal to collaborate with Reyna, especially because she would have beef with him if he didn’t stick to their alliance. Also because of Dio’s terrible childhood and relationship with his father, he is a little disturbed at the thought of having a child and being absent. Dio wants to be a good father but understand that his definitions of good are vastly different than definitive good.
And even if Reyna did cooperate and agree to get pregnant, there’s the whole “how” question to answer too because female vampires (by the logic of their universe) are infertile. Well… luckily for Reyna’s will power now manifested in her stand, her desire to bring about “paradise” and have her own children (to elaborate I would need a whole post on Reyna’s backstory 😭) was so strong it literally rewrote how her body works (“paradise” at small scale). So she is actually able to get pregnant, but neither she nor Dio know yet because they haven’t tried and yes up to this point they have had zero wahooing with each other. Eventually… this is something Dio does discuss with her, seeing as he cannot woo her with his looks alone, he may as well be straightforward and make her think she gets something out of it. Well.. they agree. They get down to business and this requires Reyna to be over a lot to the point she just eventually moves in and lives in Dio’s mansion now. After such relations, this is where the relationship could very likely get more complicated, however I like to leave things ambiguous to the readers, more like I’m observing Dio and Reyna instead of defining their relationship. For certain though, after consummating this new aspect of their alliance, Dio has undoubtedly become more possessive of her. As said in first paragraph, Dio did not pursue but was pursued, and thus didn’t care or keep any of those women. This is different. Dio pursued Reyna and probably because he made the choice to pursue, he wants to keep her. Now for what reasons, it could be many. He is invested into her just as he is invested into Pucci (Pucci still has a role in this AU of mine but not as big as the canon).
Once Reyna gets pregnant this also makes their dynamic develop more. Dio becomes even more possessive. He eventually doesn’t even let her leave the mansion anymore, and either directly or indirectly serves her wishes. He now has to take care of her now that he has made her dependent on him. As she grows deeper into pregnancy, Dio actually keeps Reyna with him in his room when they sleep to monitor her, seeing as she does get sick. Whether he actually cares for her or just cares for his precious cargo I leave ambiguous for you to determine (and I personally like to believe it’s a mixture of both). Regardless, he becomes accustomed to her presence and comes to expect it. He doesn’t get rid of her, he has chosen to keep her. And for her own agenda and reasons, Reyna allows it.
If you read this I super appreciate it. Please please please give me any feedback, criticism is welcome too. I just hope you guys think the concept is within reason and also a cute premise. I want to stay true to Dio’s character for the most part and find a way to write a partnership without it going into the deep end of out of character stuff.
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little-world-of-sofia · 4 months ago
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"...When allistic people declare that everyone is a little autistic, it means they are close to making an important breakthrough about how mental disorders are defined: why do we declare some people broken and others perfectly normal when they exhibited the exact same traits? Where do we draw the line, and why do we even bother doing so? If an autistic person benefits from more flexibility at work, and more social patience, why not extend those same benefits to everybody?"
Wow. Page 38, Unmasking autism.
I think the problem lies on recognizing diversity. It's okay when it's them and everyone, but when creating "benefits" (which in truth are merely equalization, rather than benefits) people with disabilities are put in a special place. And allistic, or better yet, neuro typical people don't like that.
On a similar note, i can find similarities with racism. Maybe a radical comparation, but let me explain myself. Here in Brazil we have special places, positions and things like that dedicated to black people, as a form of historical reparation. Does it work? Yes. Could definitely be better, but it works to some extent. We call it racial quotas. Now, how do you think white people see this? As a privilege. As something that shouldn't exist, that everyone should have the same chances, but in believing that they fail to notice that black people are, in the majority, not in the same position as white people. When slavery was abolished here, black people were pretty much thrown in the streets, we got together in the outer places of the city. With jobs that pay poorly, that when we got jobs. I'm including myself because I myself am black, and I know how life is in those places. I was there once.
As consequence, in time, black people were, mostly, in poor positions in society. White kids could go to school, study, in time graduate. Black kids? At 14 they'd be working because the house would need money. They didn't have an option. Even in irregular jobs (jobs not recognized by law that, of course, doesn't follow the law related to workers rights).
This happens to this very day. Sure it's better, sure there are more black people in good places. But the majority? Not so much.
How can someone say that a black person and a white person get the same chance? That's beyond me, since that's clearly not the case.
And that's exactly what I see when I read that paragraph. Yeah, it make sense neuro typical people won't be able to see the needs of neuro divergent people. They see the world through their own lens, not ever looking beyond it or taking a step back to try to think how is like to be in the place of someone so different than them.
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totaleclipse573 · 1 year ago
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Random Eclisper/Whispclipse rant woohoo 🎉
I started shipping this when I realized Eclipse and Whisper share many similar and personal things, specific to them. Starting with something VERY specific only to them, both have experienced the loss of people that were like family to them, the cause of both major losses being tied to Shadow in some way (Team Dark/GUN for Eclipse, and the Shadow Androids for Whisper.)
Being able to bond over this similarity could lead to trust and understanding on both ends, strengthening their bond with one another even just as a beginning friendship. When talking about her past with the Diamond Cutters, Whisper clarified they had been betrayed and killed, with Whisper being the only survivor and was left feeling extremely guilty over their deaths because of it. Sound familiar? It should, because nearly the exact same thing happened to Eclipse, where the Black Arms viewed Shadow as a traitor to their kind, and he killed the remaining of their species, leaving Eclipse feeling betrayed and hurt.
What's nice about these two is the fact that they could both apply to the idea of two tragic characters who need to learn to heal from the past, and deal with their traumas, which they can do together by understanding each other's sides of the story. 
Moving on, they're a perfect example of the opposites attract trope, which I ADORE when done right. Their personalities clash, with Whisper being silent, introverted and somewhat lacking in self-confidence. Eclipse, however, is loud, brash, egotistical and EXTREMELY confident. Eclipse can be the one to give Whisper the encouragement she needs when she needs it, meanwhile Whisper can be the one to help restrain him from making quickly-thought-out or rash decisions, (besides Shadow of course,) helping him learn to not be so impulsive.
They are literally "completely and utterly feral x the only one with some chill" and that makes some room for character development between them both. Also, something that is moreso based on my personal observations of both characters, Eclipse would be a talker, while Whisper would be a listener. Although, if the roles were to reverse given the situation at hand, I believe Eclipse, having shown to be genuinely caring towards the people he trusts, wouldn't mind being the listener if that's what Whisper needs him to be.
And lastly, just something cute that might've been obvious, they both care for a group of wisp (or in Eclipse's case, the Dark Arms, but those are just wisp with Black Arms DNA so it's the same thing lol,) that they have grown to love like family and would do anything to protect. Plus I think it would just be cute if they're literally just minding their own business while Whisper's Wisp and the Dark Arms are out in the background causing chaos, and when somebody comes to ask what's going on both Whisper and Eclipse are just like "it's fine."  Eclipse has wisp parenting experience and so does Whisper XD
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ix-c-999 · 8 months ago
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Hihi!! I followed you from the soulbonding anon ask, its nice to see other people with similar experiences. May I ask what its like for you? I've only been able to talk about this with one or two other people and I'm terrified of overstepping boundaries or misunderstanding something hff im trying to understand myself a bit more but also stay respectful about it- I've seen quite a bit of syscourse already and its stressful ;w;
Hello! Thanks for your message and your interest!
Firstly, I should explain that I (Vyvian, the original host of the system) don't actually identify as a soulbonder, although I don't really have a problem with people thinking of me as an unintentional one as long as they think of me as a non-created system first.
What happened in my case was that, at more or less the exact same time, 1. I was removed from a formerly abusive situation and placed in an isolating one, 2. I started self-shipping with my main F/O (F.ord Pr.efect from Hit.chhiker's Gui.de), and 3. my system went into total dormancy.
(Note about my system: we're traumagenic and have never fully intentionally created an alter, so we're very different from the rest of the soulbond community in that regard in that our experience can be explained by a psychological process our brain already does. You can see why I don't really consider myself part of that community.)
Anyway, because of how lonely I was (both from the isolation and from my alters not being around anymore), I leaned very very heavily into my self-ship with Ford and coped by imagining him with me constantly. With my self-ship friends and on the blog I ran at the time, I talked about him like he was real, e.g. "Ford and I went to the store today" or "I showed Ford this meme and now I'm showing you".
Every so often, though, I'd have moments where I dissociated and where the house I was living in seemed unfamiliar to me (I had just started living in it, but I'd been familiar with it for months before then). These were accompanied by an intense sense of alienation, unfamiliarity, non-humanity, and being trapped - things that Ford canonically feels as an alien from Betelgeuse stuck on Earth but that I just chalked up to dissociating while feeling weird about my new living situation.
About eight months after fully beginning to self-ship, I had a manic break in which I was compelled to write a series of spiritual Documents. My F/O is notably non-spiritual and I was too consumed by the mania to imagine him on purpose.
At the most intense point during the break, I involuntarily felt Ford's presence as intensely as I would feel someone physically next to me (I've never felt it that strongly before or since) and got the impression that the spiritual ideas I was writing about could be viewed psychologically as well (which is more in line with what Ford would say). This was immensely helpful, as I believe that, had I not incorporated psychological views of spirituality into the Documents, things could have gone a lot differently for me in ways I wouldn't want them to.
Some members of my system think that Venn split during this incident but didn't knowingly front until the rest of my system came out of dormancy. Some think that it was a major event that contributed to his development as an alter but that that wasn't the event that brought him into existence per se. Some think that Venn is a literal spiritual gift from Betelgeuse (our guardian star) and that Betelgeuse gave him to me at the moment when my mind would be the most receptive to accommodating spiritual entities.
Either way, Venn either continued to form for the next few months or else had already split and extremely covertly co-fronted with me some of the time. I was still imagining Ford around me as a fictional character and I recall that it became easier and easier to imagine him, to the point where I didn't need to consciously do it anymore.
My system fully came out of dormancy last June after about a month of me feeling like they could come back. I correctly predicted that my system's new lineup would include a Ford fictive induced by self-shipping. I was not able to predict some of the ways in which he would very quickly diverge from my already canon divergent characterization of him, nor that he would become the new host of the system (to the point where, for a while, I was only a co-host as opposed to a secondary host. My system now has two hosts and two co-hosts.)
I think the fact that I imagined Ford with me CONSTANTLY is what contributed to Venn becoming a host. If my brain is used to Ford as a constant presence, it makes sense that the alter of him would be constantly around. However, some of the members of my system who attribute a spiritual explanation to Venn's existence think he's a host because he's a spiritual entity and therefore behaves anomalously compared to other alters.
A TLDR to your question about what it's like: I imagined my F/O with me constantly and treated him like he was real with no expectation that it would lead to an alter in my then-dormant system, and then when my system came out of dormancy, it included a fictive of him that became a host.
As you can see, I'm unable to speak to the experience of intentionally creating a non-physical entity, and the involvement of spirituality is ambiguous at best. So I hope my base of knowledge is still helpful! If you have any additional questions and feel comfortable with it, feel free to DM me (which goes for anyone reading this)!
(Additionally to your thing about discourse: I would recommend a system in your situation to follow tags like "endo safe" and "endos please interact", as well as "pluralgang" which is intended to be endo-friendly, although I'm not sure if you identify as a system and thus how useful those suggestions would be for you. In general, I recommend occasionally looking at the tag "endos dni" for the express purpose of blocking everybody who uses it.)
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apothekosm · 8 months ago
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Belief & Apotheosis (a multi-part headcanon)
With this collection of words & references, I am hoping to provide both context and a 'mechanical understanding' to the following statement:
Ana'Hira fashioned herself into a God over the course of her life by rewriting her 'status' in the eyes of the universe, through sheer overwhelming belief.
By referring to herself as such (A God) and by getting others to believe that she is such (A GOD), she became as such (A GOD!).
Certain actions & events had to transpire in order to create the perfect conditions for Ana'Hira's ascension to be possible, of course, but an overwhelming majority (about 90%) of the 'evolution' from 'cosmic clone' to 'universal host' to 'divine being' came from within. A simple mantra of 'I believe in myself.'
To get there, i first need to take you here:
Skrull Religions & The Last Members of the Skrull Pantheon (or, Part One: The Book of Worlds)
In the eyes of the Skrull, RELIGION has often taken a huge, huge backseat to science and military might after the original printing of the Book of Worlds (The Skrull version of a Quran/Legendarium/Litany of Prophecies) was lost during the destruction of Skrullos by THE GREAT HUNGER. (An event PROPHESIED in the Book of Worlds, mind you)
[It's important to note: The Book of Worlds is much more similar to the Quran than a Bible or the Torah, because The Book of Worlds was written by The Gods themselves. It's not 'stories being told by those inspired by the actions of the divine, but a pen-to-paper transcription of the word(s) of The Gods themselves.]
Without the dedicated word of their Gods available for perusal, most Skrull cultures fell in line behind those they believed ordained by Gods: The Emperors, The Empresses, The Cosmic Cubes & The Super Skrulls.
Anyone with the might to rule was followed, as the base idea that 'their might was ordained by the Gods' still prevailed even if the more intricate and subtle lessons of the religions were fading over time. However, some houses, families, and even entire planets (separate from the Throneworld, though they may be) held tight to the idea of the Old Pantheon; to the worship of Kly'Bn the Eternal, and Sl'gur't, of Infinite Names.
Two Skrulls, born millions of years ago, that became THE First Two (and in the eyes of some, ONLY) Skrull Gods.
Millions of years ago, at the conclusion of the Skrull civil war between the three sub-species (Deviant Skrulls, Prime Skrulls, and Eternal Skrulls), after the Prime Skrulls had been exterminated, Sl'gur't the warrior queen of the Deviant Skrulls led her people against the last Eternal Skrull stronghold. When she found the last Eternal Skrull (Kly'bn) who was kneeling at an altar, he persuaded her not to kill him but to let him be their guide and proclaimed his love for her. The two were elevated to godhood because of the truth of his words. The two of them indirectly supported the creation and expansion of the Skrull Empire. They conquered and enslaved the pantheons of the conquered races, numbering nearly 1000 pantheons.
Now THAT THERE IN THE MIDDLE, that's the bit! The important bit. Kly'bn & Sl'gur't ascended to divinity and ruled over their people, literally uplifted into the realm of Gods, simply by finding the TRUTH in Kly'bn's words. A 'truth', mind you, that was simply:
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(For a non-pontificating translation: You've killed everything on this planet that is not like you. But the entire universe is not like you. With myself here, as the pinnacle and mould for what Skrulls should be, I will guide us all to the subjugation, destruction, and conquering of the universe around us.)
And that Truth was enough. Seriously. That was it.
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At that moment, every Skrull in the 'Empire' held the exact same thought: These two beings will lead us into our future, they will sit in the stars, eternal and infinite, and light the way for our species forevermore. I love them, as they love me... My Gods.
And that was enough.
The Power of Belief transformed two, otherwise ordinary individuals, into eternal (they lived MILLIONS OF YEARS after these panels. MILLIONS.), powerful (they fought Hercules' God Squad in a 2v5 and almost won), GODS.
And if it was possible for them, even when the Empire was statistically at its least populated? Then it could be possible for any child of Skrullos, should the right conditions be met...
ENTER: Ana'Hira. (or, Part Two coming soon!)
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saralayne · 1 year ago
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Sacrifice 🩵💜
Lucy returns from her first long, deep UC mission and has made a decision.
Lucy had been on a deep OC Op for 8 months. No contact with anyone from Wilshire. Not Grey, Angela or Nyla. Not Tamara. Most importantly, not even Tim. The love of her life. She hadn’t been able to hear his voice. See his face. No contact. This had been a type of lonely she had never experienced. She had never truly been in love before. There were many nights in the past 8 months where Lucy cried herself to sleep. Lucy excelled with UC missions. Truth be told, she had loved it since she was a rookie. This was a path she always wanted to explore. It was never a question. Never a doubt.
Until…
She had something worth coming home to every night. The man she wanted to spend the rest of her life with. Her forever. It all changed for her. Lucy was as confused as ever.
Lucy and Tim made the decision TOGETHER that she would follow through with her dream to work UC. A deep mission. It’s something she needed to do for herself. The thought of Lucy away for that long, with no contact. No way to know is she was safe. If she was hurt. It gave the feeling of knots in Tim’s stomach. He would be holding his breath for 8 long months. But she needed to see this through. Lucy had wanted this opportunity for a long time and he was going to support her, not be her downfall. Lucy knew that Tim wouldn’t be able to not dwell on his past. What he went through with Isabel. Lucy and Isabel were very similar with their chosen career paths and the desire they both had for UC work. There was one defining difference of which Lucy repeatedly assured Tim. Their ending would not be the same. If Tim ever sounded the alarm, Lucy would walk away. No questions asked. For Lucy’s part, if she EVER felt she was heading down a dark hole in anyway she would be DONE. She was NEVER going to let UC work change her. She made a promise to not only Tim but herself. She would walk away long before UC got the best of her. Of them.
It had been 7 months. 220 days. Tim worried everyday. He would wake up thinking of his girlfriend. The love of his life. Wondering what she was doing at that exact moment. They had a shorthand for a long time. He missed her gorgeous smile. Her captivating brown eyes. He just missed her. Tim had settled into his routine now. Long hours with Metro, which he didn’t mind most of the time. In his downtime, it consisted of going for hikes with Kojo. He had stayed at Lucy’s the majority of the time. As hard as this was on him, it was also hard on Tamara. Not wanting her to be alone while at the apartment. Tim wanted to be there if she ever needed him. It was not only a promise made to Lucy but he had also grown very fond of Lucy’s puppy. Tamara wasn’t only Lucy’s roommate. She was family. Even going as far as becoming their unofficial daughter. If he didn’t stay at the apartment, he made sure Tamara knew he was just a text or call away. Day or night.
Tim had been on an Op with Metro. Walking into Wilshire he felt all eyes were on him. Angela was staring at him. Instantly feeling he couldn’t catch his breath. Had the worst happened? What he had been dreading. Was she hurt? He wanted to keel over to his knees at that very moment. As he walked over to Angela he felt his life was about to change.
“Lopez. What’s going on? Is it about…? Please tell me she’s ok. She’s safe”
“Tim. Take a breath. She’s safe. She’s ok”
Tim looked around the room and saw everyone smiling.
“IT’S OVER Tim”
“WHAT!?! What do you mean…It’s over?”
“I mean it’s over. We just got a call from Lucy’s handler. All of those ass hats have been captured. Arrested. In custody. They will be going away for a very long time. He said they were just waiting for all of them to be in custody, to ensure her safety. She is safely on her way home now. Should be here in the next hour”
“I can’t believe it. Lucy’s coming home. She’s coming home to me. I have thought about this moment for the last 7 months. Replaying it in my head over and over”
Tim’s tough exterior came crumbling down. He was only soft with Lucy. Occasionally Angela or Grey. He made a point to continue with his rough exterior with his Wilshire colleagues. He did have a reputation to uphold. However, on this day his emotions got the best of him. Tears falling down his cheeks simultaneously.
As he tried to hide his emotional wall. It all came crumbling down.
“Tim, it’s more than ok to be emotional. Stop trying to be the tough guy. We all know that guy left the building when Lucy came into your life. Especially since you have been together. She changed you. Tim it’s been 7 months. I would be worried if you weren’t emotional. Having no contact with the woman you love. C’mon Bradford. Just let it out”
“I’m scared of the unknown. How this affected her. I know what she promised me. She will need to decompress for a while. Even not knowing the details, I know this is a reality. But all I wanna do is to hold her in my arms. Hell, even having the chance to close my eyes to her and wake up in the mornings to her”
Just over an hour later, there she was. Standing before him. Those gorgeous brown eyes. Teary eyes staring at him. That big smile he had missed so much was more bright than ever. Lucy never looked more beautiful. He immediately saw a difference between Lucy and Isabel. Isabel would come home looking like she was in shambles. Distant. No brightness. Lucy had sunshine illuminating over her.
Lucy dropped her bag and made a beeline through the station. Jumping into Tim’s arms. Tim wrapped his arms around her, tightly. He had never held anyone or anything that tight. Buried his head deep into her neck. Giving her a soft, passionate kiss. Both Lucy and Tim made sure to never pack on the PDA at work. But right now in this moment somethings mattered more.
“BABY. You’re home. I have missed you so much”
Before, he could stop himself he uttered those magic words he had felt for years.
“I LOVE YOU, Lucy Chen. I Love You so damn much. Thank you for coming home to me”
“Tim. I Love You so very much. Actually, more than anything. I’m so happy to be back into your arms again”
Later at home, their home. Tamara had returned and the three of them had a tear felt reunion. They ordered Lucy’s favorite take out and watched a movie. One of the girls favorite. Tim could not have cared less. He would watch chick flicks till the end of time. As long as he was with his girls everyone is safe.
Later they laid in bed after a passionate couple of rounds of love making. Holding one another as if it was their last day on earth.
“Tim, I need to talk to you”
“Luce get some sleep. We have lots of time to talk once you get a good nights sleep. Please, baby. You need rest”
“No, Tim. I need to say one thing. Please listen to me”
“Of course I will, Baby”
“I don’t want to do deep UC work”
“WHAT?!? Did the Op not go well? You don’t have to go into details right now. Until you’re ready”
“No, it went ok. I mean there was some close call moments and it was draining. But that’s not what I want to talk about right now. I realized, it’s not for me anymore. Yes, it was the dream for so long but it’s different now. That was when I didn’t have everything to come home to. I remained focused while undercover. When I wasn’t, in my hotel room. When I was Lucy. I hated it. I just wanted to be here in our home. In your arms. I lost the passion for it. I lost the love for deep UC work. I LOVE YOU. That’s the only LOVE I need or want”
“Luce. I love you for that. I will always support you with any path you take professionally but I promise you, I’m ok”
“Tim, you may be but I’M NOT”
“I still wanna pursue detective work. Just not deep UC work. Little Ops here and there, sure but nothing where I’m gone for months on end. I want US. Maybe even starting a family in the near future. What makes me happy. What gives me joy. The thought of it being us, Tamara and Kojo. With the prospect of adding a baby to our family. That’s what I want. I’m sorry. I know this is too soon. We haven’t been together for that long. That’s how I truly feel”
“Luce. First ‘our home’ never sounded so wonderful. You are my home. I feel this right here is our home too. Second, there is absolutely nothing I want more than to start a family with you. Sure, we haven’t been together for that long but I have realized I have been in love with you for years. I was just too stupid to admit it to myself. I’M ALL IN”
“I Love You, Bradford”
“I Love You, Chen”
As Tim closed his eyes. He knew without a doubt. He had already bought a ring while she was away. Very soon, this beautiful woman laying beside him was going to be his wife.
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eowyn-igneelcheshire · 3 days ago
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Okay so I'm tired and this is going to be a lot of rambling so bear with me here. Just finished watching season 2 of Ancient Apocalypse and there's a point where they're talking about the Mayan Calendar(s) and how there's one specifically designed to track the changing into a new age. One of the anthropologists talked about how according to Mayan mythology we are in the "fourth sun" or fourth age which they believed started in I think ~1300 BC (he said an exact year, I don't remember what it was but it was around the same time that Ancient Egypt as well as several other cultures around the world suddenly started ramping up into the major societies we remember them as today), and they said that the "apocalypse" that was supposed to happen in 2012 might not have been a prediction of the end of the world like we originally thought, but a prediction of the end of the current age. They also said that this change could be taking place over the course of an 80 year time span, rather than just being instantaneous.
In the myths there was this story about the gods trying to create people and a sun so the people could survive. This is a really short summary of it but basically one god would volunteer to become the sun and people would live happily for a while, until eventually something (usually drama between the gods if I remember correctly) happened that would cause that god to destroy the world and step down, then the world would be rebuilt and another god would take over. If I remember correctly, they said around the time the fourth age is said to have started the earth is theorised to have crossed paths with the shrapnel(??? Definitely not the word I'm thinking of but it's the only one coming to mind) of a broken meteor, which might have caused people to seek shelter underground as the falling pieces of the meteor would have made it too dangerous to live aboveground. So that was how the current age began, it wasn't a world ending apocalypse but a lot of things changed, and most likely the previous ages also actually began in very similar not-world-ending-but-still-a-massive-change ways. Now we're supposed to be going into a fifth change, which is marked by massive world changes which we're seeing a lot of in California being constantly on fire and parts of North America that previously did not snow getting lots of snow... I had a point to this and I've forgotten what it was...
Basically, it's just really fascinating, the Mayans were probably right and we just misunderstood what they meant, and Ancient Apocalypse season 2 is really good you guys should watch it. I haven't seen season 1 since I started watching it with my moms after they'd started season 2 but we're going to rewatch it so I can see it.
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baxterkairos · 11 days ago
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LUKE 24:25, ELLEN G. WHITE ON CHRIST’S COMING, SDA’S FINAL REJECTION
God’s prophets have been entrusted with the prophecy concerning the end of time (Amos 3:7, Hosea 12:13, Daniel 2:28-29), particularly the coming of Christ, for it will surely be revealed to His people.
Hence, those who teach that Christ's return would not be known are evidently characterized as false prophets, whom the people should distrust (Matthew 24:3, 24, 26).
Christ’s return was being correlated with the days of Noah, whereby the probationary time had been made known to all beforehand (Genesis 6:3, 4T 308-120 years, predicted event).
Thus, only those who refused the given time were being perished by the flood (Matthew 24:37-39).
The argument most often brought forward by rejecters of Christ’s coming is that “No man knoweth the day and the hour… (Mark 13:32).” GC 370, 371
Nonetheless, the word “KNOW” was used in the same sense by Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:2: “For I determined NOT TO KNOW [MAKE KNOWN] anything among you, save Jesus Christ...”
Thus, men will not make known the day and hour, even the angels, and neither will the Son alone, but with the agreement of the Father and the Spirit.
Ellen White, being regarded by the Seventh-day Adventists as a prophet due to her Biblical gift of prophecy, was fully mindful that there is an appointed time of Christ’s coming, as it was shown unto her in a vision.
“…you distinctly declare that you were SHOWN THE DAY AND HOUR of Christ's second coming… I HEARD THE HOUR PROCLAIMED, but had NO REMEMBRANCE of that HOUR after I came out of vision.” 1SM 75, 76
Consequently, God allowed the day and hour to be forgotten, since it is not for them to know His appointed time (Acts 1:7), but rather for His appointed people in our time.
The majority had been under a strong delusion, as they believed that God’s appointed time would be given exactly on the day of His coming (GC 640).
“The sky opened and shut and was in commotion... And as GOD SPOKE THE DAY AND THE HOUR of Jesus’ coming... The Israel of God stood with their eyes fixed upward, listening to the words… of Jehovah...” EW 285
God’s words written by His prophets were not always in a chronological order, for it is profoundly illogical to assert that God’s appointed time will only be given on the day of His return, as it holds no relevance to His people.
Herewith, comparing the preceding passage to the other writings of Ellen White, God precisely gave the day and the hour of His coming through a vision, soon after the 1844 disappointment.
“The light behind them went out, leaving their feet in perfect darkness… SOON we HEARD the voice of God… which GAVE us the DAY AND HOUR OF JESUS’ COMING…” EW 15
Ellen White had thereby knew that after the great disappointment in 1844 God’s appointed time would then be gradually unfolds in these last days before Christ’s comes.
GC 359, 360
“ARE WE NEVER TO KNOW THAT PERIOD… where it is said that the WORDS were SHUT UP to the TIME of the END (which was the CASE IN HIS TIME)… and KNOWLEDGE' (regarding that TIME) ‘shall be INCREASED.’ Daniel 12:4.”
“But NO MAN… has ever attained to a full understanding of the great plan of redemption… Even the PROPHETS who were favored with the special illumination of the Spirit DID NOT FULLY COMPREHEND the import of the REVELATIONS COMMITTED to them. The meaning was to be UNFOLDED FROM AGE TO AGE…” GC 343, 344
The Seventh-day Adventists had clearly misunderstood what God conveyed through Ellen White in her writings, as they believed that there should be no preaching of a definite time.
This leads to their final rejection of God’s appointed time, similar to the Jewish church, which has cursed all who attempt to compute the time of Christ’s coming (GC 378).
However, knowing the exact day of Christ’s return, definitely involves a mathematical computation.
COLOSSIANS 4:3 …that God would OPEN UNTO US A DOOR OF UTTERANCE, to SPEAK the MYSTERY of Christ…
The word “UTTERANCE” in Strong’s Greek #3056 means “a COMPUTATION, concerning doctrine.
God will hereby curse all who became fools in remaining defiant against the truth of God's appointed time clearly foretold by His prophets, just as the awful destruction of Jerusalem in the past (Luke 19:41-44).
LUKE 24:25 …O FOOLS, and SLOW of HEART to BELIEVE all that the PROPHETS have SPOKEN:
Christ gave the exact year of His return, 2026, in the date of the First and Second Destruction of Jerusalem.
586 BCE – FIRST Destruction, 70 CE – SECOND Destruction
BY USING CONCATENATION:
586 + 7 = 5867 (flipped figure of 5786)
The Hebrew year 5786 precisely corresponds to the year 2026 in the Gregorian calendar.
The children of light, who have not despise the prophesying of God’s appointed time in accordance with the scripture, precisely knew the day of Christ’s return (1 Thessalonians 5:20-21, 2-4).
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!
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