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frisiunia · 8 months ago

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Papyrus is autistic!

I believe that Papyrus from Undertale is autistic. And now, I'm going to prove that!!!

With arguments!

AND REASONS!

LETS GOOOOOOOOO!

Oh, and I confirm that Papyrus from Undermourning has ASD.

Before we start...

I just wanted to state that autism is the whole spectrum. Every person with autism is different from each other, just like neurotypical people are different from each other. People can't be more or less autistic and no one checks every single known symptom. Because they're many different symptoms and as I've said - it's the whole spectrum.

+Autism is not an illness. "Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder marked by deficits in reciprocal social communication and the presence of restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior." (definition from: Wikipedia)

Reading social cues

So people with ASD tend to have difficulty with understanding some social situations and other people's emotions or completely misinterpret them. I want to also clear out that the austitic actually understand the basic emotions and how they look. Like smiling when you're happy, crying when you're sad, yelling when you're angry. But they can have problem with reading more complex ones.

However, worse understanding of social cues do not seem to aply to Papyrus that much BUT there is a reason I want to speak about it. You can get a feeling that Papyrus is more taught in this sphere rather than naturaly understanding things like this. You see, people with ASD can learn like normal people. So they can learn about social interactions like how to better understand emotions and react in certain moments.

For example, Papyrus understands that it's a nice thing to bring your friend a gift when you visit them. You can see it on the hang out with Undyne. But it feels more like Papyrus sees it as a rule rather than thinking if Undyne likes the gift. He just takes her word for it. On the hang out with Undyne, he is also able to notice the tension between Frisk and Undyne. But the way he reacts also feels like he learnt about this kind of situations and how he can deal with them.

Also after training with Alphys when he phones Frisk, you can see that Papyrus is aware that something is wrong with the doctor. He just doesn't says it outloud. It's even something that I have a problem with. I see that something is wrong with a person but I don't have courage to be straightforward about that because I'm not sure if I'm interpreting things correctly.

The situations where Papyrus actually seems to misinterpret social cues is when he's insulted. He always twists insults into something nice. It can be either because of very solid mentality that autistic people can have (in Papyrus case it's belief that he's the greatest and people would have no reason to insult him) or that he's actually aware that things others say aren't nice but he learnt that this is a way to deal with such situations. I personally think it's the first reason. Maybe it's because I myself tend to have very solid and hard to change beliefs.

Communication

So Papyrus is communicating very well, isn't he? And isn't autism a disorder that makes people unable to communicate properly?... Well, it's not like this. As I said, autism is the whole spectrum. And some symptoms can contrast with others. Some people with autism can have lower empathy and some can have higher empathy. Communicating is also one of those cases. Some people in spectrum may have difficulty with it but for example I'm communicating verbally very well. I even have very wider vocabulary (at least in my native language).

Actually, we can say that Papyrus has Asperger Syndrome which is a disorder in autism spectrum. I myself have Asperger Syndrome. Said syndrome is characterized by for example... very rich vocabulary. You can definetely say that Papyrus does use many different and fancy words. Just go through his dialogues in game!

You know what the autistic can be bad in? Lying. I personally never lie. I just find it one of the worst things that can be done. And Papyrus? He definetely dislike lying either. When he asks us about our clothes and we are being honest about it and won't change it later, he doesn't lie to Undyne and shows relief that he didn't have to lie to anyone. When we lie or tell the truth but change our armor, he lies to Undyne and visibly doesn't feel good about lying to his friend.

Hyperfixations and repeatability

Hyperfixations are very often in ASD. People with autism often obsess over very specific things.

Papyrus' hyperfixations are definetely puzzles and cooking spaghetti. Like, puzzles are the way he tries to capture Frisk with. He has bookshelf with complex tomes about puzzles creation. He's resposible for most of the puzzles we have to solve in Snowdin. About spaghetti, it's very obvious. This is the only thing Papyrus is cooking and you can see it's something he enjoys a lot even despite his food probably isn't too tasty...

Papyrus doesn't cook anything besides spaghetti and you know what autistic people often like? Repeatability. The autistic often stick to routine and plan their day. I myself like repeatablity and dislike unexpected changes. That's also what I have such solid beliefs that takes time to change and I believe Papyrus has the same. Now is about something else. First of all, Papyrus' clothes. Accoarding to Sans, Papyrus has been wearing the same clothes for months and didn't even take it off to shower. Sounds familiar... I MEAN-! I don't wear the same clothes for months, only for a few weeks and I take them off when I'm taking a shower. Papyrus' case is very extreme. Nonetheless, it proves my point.

We also can see his dislike to unexpected changes and unwillingness to try new things which are also often symptom of autism. I won't even explain it. I'll just put here parts of Papyrus' interview:

Stimming

There's not so many examples of it and the examples can be a little forced but I wanted to mention it anyway.

"Self-stimulatory behavior is the repetition of physical movements, sounds, words, moving objects, or other repetitive behaviors." (Wikipedia again!)

So stimming is used by people mostly to calm down but it's also very often symptom of ASD and also ADHD. For example, I can sometimes start moving back and forward without even noticing when I started doing it.

So does Papyrus stim? Well, here are my examples:

Stomping feet; Papyrus has animation where he does it. He repeatedly stomps his feet.

"Papyrus is rattling his bones."; it's one of narrator texts that can appear in Papyrus' battle which can also be read as stimming.

I understand if this argument was not very convincing. It was more an expansion than anything.

Childish?

Okay, okay Papyrus definetely does have some autistic traits but what if we're digging too deep into this? What if the point of his character was simply being childish? After all, he act like a child at times. He's gulliable as he proved with Flowey. He reads children picture books and he probably doesn't even read them by himself. Sans reads him bedtime stories. Besides books for children, Papyrus also has figures in his room and his bed looks like a bed child would sleep in...

No. Papyrus isn't childish. No, no, no, NO. It's often for autistic people to for example watch cartoons or sleep with plushies even when they're adult. Hell! Neurotypical people do that too.

Yes, Papyrus is naive. But people with ASD can often have problems with trust being little or too trusting.

So no. Papyrus is not childish. He's autistic. I hope I've been able to convince ya to this.

Thank you for reading<3

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thunderbone · 7 months ago

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It's not really a birthday drawing, but this drawing is like a birthday present, you know. Furthermore, this drawing is dedicated to all autistic people in the world, as this drawing continues the series of autistic characters that I created. The first drawing in this themed series is a wonderful art that I won from my friend, Tururs, in a art raffle. So if you want to see this art, click here: https://www.tumblr.com/thunderbone/746660868952064000/english-happy-world-autism-awareness-day-this-is

Anyway, I decided to share with you a book that I've been planning to write for a while now. This book is a sequel to Alice in Wonderland, as well as being a "modern version" of the story. My story was inspired by Hook (1991) and Disney's live-action Alice in Wonderland.

This beautiful and wonderful drawing was made by Nicolai, also known as ahdortable on Instagram. In this drawing made by Nicolai, Alice was inspired by American McGee's Alice, while Jack was inspired by Tsaiko Tails, a grown-up version of Tails created by @tsaikonautz, also known as IndigoBeatss. Thank you very much for drawing Alice and Jack/Sunset Fox, the drawing was amazing 💖 If you want to see his drawings, click here: www.instagram.com/ahdortable/

The story revolves around Alice, a 20-year-old girl who lives with her older sister, Elizabeth, and her younger brother, Peter. Their parents died when Peter was 3 years old and Alice was 11 years old, so Elizabeth had to take care of her two brothers. Alice has Asperger's Syndrome, which is already a reason for Elizabeth to be super protective of her.

Because of her atypical mental and emotional condition, Alice is seen as childish and unreliable by her sister, who believes that she is not prepared to be independent and live her adult life because she does not understand anything about the outside world and its dangers, beyond the fact that she has great difficulty expressing her own emotions and recognizing or understanding the feelings and intentions of others.

Because of this, Alice tries to prove her worth to Elizabeth, believing that she can live without depending on her. Alice is very close to her younger brother, Peter, where he loves her very much and sees her as a mother figure, just like Elizabeth. One day, the 3 siblings were traveling on vacation, and headed to a nearby city. However, a deer appeared in the middle of the road, where Elizabeth tried to avoid it but the car ended up overturning.

After the accident, Alice ended up waking up inside a teapot, which, to her great surprise, had been shrunk by the Mad Hatter, who soon returned her to her normal size by giving her a cupcake. The Mad Hatter, the March Hare, the Sunset Fox, the Dormouse, the twin siblings Tweedledum and Tweedledee and the Cheshire Cat are reunited with Alice, which leaves her confused at first.

They explain that when she was a child, she once visited Wonderland, where she befriended them. Furthermore, she helped them defeat the Queen of Hearts, as everyone was already tired of her tyranny and her cruel, dictatorial kingdom. Alice remembers a little of this, but she thought everything that happened was just a dream. However, after Alice left and never returned to Wonderland, the Queen of Hearts devised her plan to get her throne back and take revenge on Alice for ending her reign of several years.

It was the queen who made Alice return to Wonderland with her siblings, where she captured them. Alice's old friends barely saved her before the arrival of the Queen of Hearts' subordinates. To make matters worse, Alice's friends are fugitives from the law, as the Queen also wants to take revenge on them at any cost. Knowing that Wonderland and her siblings are in great danger, Alice, with the help of her friends and the White Rabbit (who works for the Queen of Hearts but is secretly on the protagonists' side and is their informant), went to try stop the Queen's evil plans.

During the adventure, Alice gradually remembered her adventures in Wonderland as a child and her friendships with the Cheshire Cat, the Mad Hatter, the hare, the dormouse, the twins, the rabbit and the fox, the latter who soon becomes her best friend.

There are a few more details that I thought of for this idea, such as the fox. This character does not exist in the original Alice in Wonderland story, he was invented by me. His story is very sad, you know.

His name is Jack and he lived in a forest inhabited by anthropomorphic foxes. However, he has autism, which is a bit serious. I mean, he's not like people who have very severe autism, who are very aggressive, have difficulty speaking, learning, relating to people... He doesn't have this type of autism, which unfortunately is a stereotype , where people think autistic people are retarded.

Let's just say that he is very impulsive, allowing him to do things without thinking twice, in addition to being irritated very easily, and can be a little aggressive. Furthermore, every late afternoon and early evening, Jack became agitated and very anxious for no apparent reason, where he was unable to sleep several times, in addition to being extremely frustrated with his own confusion. Because of this and the fact that he was very different from other foxes (since he was autistic), he suffered a lot of prejudice, being called crazy by many, in addition to receiving the nickname Sunset Fox.

And the worst thing is that no one in Wonderland knows what autism and other types of mental disorders are, which only made the situation even worse. At one point, Jack is abandoned as a child by his parents, who did not accept him the way he is. That poor little fox lived alone for some time, in need. Until one day he was found by the Mad Hatter and his two best friends, the March Hare and the Dormouse. The Mad Hatter decided to adopt that fox, because he felt very sorry for him, saying he understood his pain.

However, the Mad Hatter didn't really understand what Jack was going through, because the Mad Hatter doesn't have autism and he thought Jack was crazy just like him, and having autism is very different from being crazy. In short, the Mad Hatter didn't know what it was like to suffer bullying and prejudice for being different, for being born with an atypical mental and emotional condition.

Despite this, the Mad Hatter went to help the boy. Jack then lived with his adoptive father and his uncle and aunt until then, drinking several cups of tea and living many surreal adventures. Jack loves the Mad Hatter very much and sees him as the father figure he always wanted, as he accepted him the way he is. Jack met Alice when he was 10, while she was 7. When Alice returned to Wonderland, Jack was very happy to see her again.

Throughout the story, Jack opened up to Alice about his atypical mental and emotional condition, and to his great surprise, she understands the prejudice he suffered for being different all these years, as she also has autism just like him. Yes, Jack finally met someone who is just like him and who knows what it's like to live with a mental illness that affects his life. But both will learn that it's okay being different, where both will have pride of their autism and will being positive about being different.

At that moment, Jack started to fall in love with Alice, but he didn't want to admit his feelings to her or anyone else, because he knows that his love for Alice would never work, since she is a human and he is an anthro animal. As the story progressed, I imagined Alice and Jack having a lot of chemistry, where she would also fall in love with him. In the final stretch of the story, he confesses his love for her, but they don't stay together.

Another thing I thought about is that while the other characters have special powers or abilities, Alice is the only one who doesn't have any of these. However, she uses things from Wonderland to her advantage, such as sweets (cakes and cookies) and non-alcoholic drinks (juices and soft drinks) that have the ability to make her look giant or small.

She's like Mario when he eats specific mushrooms to become giant or have super powers, as well as picking up things like that little cape that turns into a superhero cape so he can fly. Another thing I thought about is the possibility of implementing a stalker villain who will make the protagonists' lives hell until the end. He would be like Nemesis from Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (1999), where he would be the biggest son of a bitch in history, second to the Queen of Hearts.

I imagined him being the Jabberwocky, a monster from a poem in the book Alice Through the Looking Glass (sequel of the original work, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, also written by Lewis Caroll). In my version of this monster, he would be a type of dragon, just like his counterpart from Disney's live-action Alice in Wonderland (2010). He would probably be a monster created by the Queen of Hearts, being programmed to eliminate all the protagonists, including Alice. That's why he chases them until the final stretch of my story and he's definitely going to make everyone angry at him, lol

Furthermore, I also imagined Alice being a rocker/metalhead girl, like me XD That explains why she was wearing a punk leather jacket lol Anyway, what do you think of my story? What should I improve?

Português (Brasil)

Não é bem um desenho de aniversário, mas esse desenho é como um presente de aniversário, sabe. Além disso, esse desenho é dedicado à todas as pessoas autistas no mundo, pois esse desenho continua com a série de personagens autistas que eu criei. O primeiro desenho dessa série temática é uma arte maravilhosa que eu ganhei do sorteio do meu amigo, Tururs. Então caso queiram ver essa arte, cliquem aqui: https://www.tumblr.com/thunderbone/746660868952064000/english-happy-world-autism-awareness-day-this-is

Enfim, resolvi compartilhar com vocês um livro que estou planejando escrever já faz algum tempo. Esse livro é uma continuação de Alice no País das Maravilhas, além de ser uma "versão moderna" da história. A minha história foi inspirada no filme Hook: A Volta do Capitão Gancho (1991) e o live-action Alice no País das Maravilhas da Disney.

Esse desenho lindo e maravilhoso foi feito pelo Nicolai, também conhecido como ahdortable no Instagram. Nesse desenho feito pelo Nicolai, a Alice foi inspirada na Alice de American McGee, enquanto o Jack foi inspirado no Tsaiko Tails, uma versão crescida do Tails criado pela @tsaikonautz, também conhecida como IndigoBeatss. Muito obrigado por desenhar a Alice e o Jack/Raposa do pôr-do-sol, o desenho ficou incrível 💖 Caso queiram ver os desenhos dele, cliquem aqui: www.instagram.com/ahdortable/

A história gira em torno de Alice, uma garota de 20 anos que vive com a sua irmã mais velha, Elizabeth, e seu irmão mais novo, Peter. Os pais deles morreram quando Peter tinha 3 aninhos e Alice tinha 11 anos de idade, onde Elizabeth teve que cuidar de seus dois irmãos. Alice tem Síndrome de Asperger, o que já é um motivo pra Elizabeth ser super protetora em relação à ela.

Por causa de sua condição mental e emocional atípica, Alice é vista como infantil e não confiável por sua irmã, que acredita que ela não está preparada pra ser independente e viver sua vida adulta por não entender nada do mundo exterior e seus perigos, além do fato dela ter muita dificuldade em expressar suas próprias emoções e de reconhecer ou entender os sentimentos e intenções dos outros.

Por causa disso, Alice tenta provar o seu valor pra Elizabeth, acreditando que ela pode sim viver sem depender dela. Alice é muito próxima ao seu irmão caçula, Peter, onde ele a ama muito e a vê como uma figura materna, assim como Elizabeth. Um dia, os 3 irmãos estavam viajando de férias, do qual se dirigiam para uma cidade próxima. Porém, um cervo apareceu no meio da estrada, onde Elizabeth tentou desviar mas o carro acabou capotando.

Após o acidente, Alice acabou acordando dentro de um bule de chá, que para sua grande surpresa, ela havia sido encolhida pelo Chapeleiro Louco, que logo fez ela voltar ao seu tamanho normal dando à ela um bolinho. O Chapeleiro Louco, a Lebre de Março, a Raposa do Pôr-do-sol, a Arganaz, o casal de irmãos gêmeos Tweedledum e Tweedledee e o Gato Risonho se reencontram com Alice, o que a deixa confusa de início.

Eles explicam que quando ela era uma criança, ela já visitou o País das Maravilhas, onde ela fez amizade com eles. Além disso, ela os ajudou a derrotar a Rainha de Copas, pois todo mundo já estava cansado da tirania dela e do seu reino ditador e cruel. Alice se lembra um pouco disso, mas ela achava que tudo o que aconteceu era só um sonho. Porém, depois que Alice foi embora e nunca mais voltou ao País das Maravilhas, a Rainha de Copas arquitetou o seu plano de conseguir de volta o seu trono e se vingar da Alice por ter acabado com o seu reinado de vários anos.

Foi a rainha que fez Alice voltar para o País das Maravilhas com seus irmãos, onde ela capturou eles. Por pouco, os antigos amigos da Alice a salvaram antes da chegada dos subordinados da Rainha de Copas. Pra piorar a situação, os amigos da Alice são foragidos da lei, pois a Rainha também quer se vingar deles a qualquer custo. Sabendo que o País das Maravilhas e os seus irmãos correm um grande perigo, Alice, com a ajuda de seus amigos e do Coelho Branco (que trabalha pra Rainha de Copas mas secretamente está do lado dos protagonistas e é o informante deles), foram tentar impedir os planos malignos da Rainha.

Durante a aventura, aos poucos a Alice foi se lembrando de suas aventuras no país das Maravilhas quando criança e de sua amizade com o Gato Risonho, o Chapeleiro Louco, a lebre, a arganaz, os gêmeos, o coelho e a raposa, este último que logo se torna o seu melhor amigo.

Tem mais alguns detalhes que pensei pra essa ideia, como por exemplo a tal raposa. Esse personagem não existe na história original do Alice no País das Maravilhas, ele foi inventado por mim. A história dele é bem triste, sabe

Ele se chama Jack e vivia em uma floresta habitada por raposas antropomórficas. Porém, ele tem autismo, que é um pouco grave. Quer dizer, ele não é igual a pessoas que têm autismo bastante grave, que são muito agressivas, têm dificuldade na fala, no aprendizado, em se relacionar com as pessoas... Ele não tem esse tipo de autismo, que infelizmente é um estereótipo, onde pessoas pensam que autistas são retardados.

Digamos que ele é muito impulsivo, deixando-o fazer coisas sem pensar duas vezes, além de se irritar muito facilmente, podendo ser um pouco agressivo. Além disso, em todos os finais da tarde e início das noites, Jack ficava agitado e bastante ansioso sem motivo aparente, onde ele não conseguia dormir várias vezes, além de ficar extremamente frustrado com sua própria confusão. Por causa disso e do fato dele ser muito diferente das outras raposas (já que ele era autista), ele sofria muito preconceito, sendo chamado de louco por muitos, além de receber o apelido de Raposa do Pôr-do-sol.

E o pior é que ninguém no País das Maravilhas sabe o que é autismo e outros tipos de transtornos mentais, o que só piorou ainda mais a situação. Em um dado momento, Jack é abandonado ainda criança por seus pais, que não o aceitaram do jeito que é. Aquela pobre raposinha viveu sozinha por algum tempo, passando por necessidades. Até que um dia ele foi encontrado pelo Chapeleiro Louco e seus dois melhores amigos, a Lebre de Março e a Arganaz. O Chapeleiro Louco resolveu adotar aquela raposa, pois ele ficou com muita pena dele, dizendo que entendia a sua dor.

No entanto, o Chapeleiro Louco não entendia de fato o que Jack estava passando, pois o Chapeleiro Louco não tem autismo e ele achava que o Jack é louco assim como ele, sendo que ter autismo é muito diferente de ser louco. Resumidamente, o Chapeleiro Louco não sabia como é sofrer bullying e preconceito por ser diferente, por ter nascido com uma condição mental e emocional atípica.

Apesar disso, o Chapeleiro Louco foi ajudar o garoto. Jack então passou a viver com o seu pai adotivo e seus tios até então, tomando várias xícaras de chá e vivendo muitas aventuras surreais. Jack ama muito o Chapeleiro Louco e o vê como uma figura paterna que sempre quis, pois ele o aceitou do jeito que é. Jack conheceu a Alice quando tinha 10 anos, enquanto ela tinha 7. Quando Alice voltou ao País das Maravilhas, Jack ficou muito feliz em vê-la de novo.

Ao longo da história, Jack desabafou pra Alice sobre a sua condição mental e emocional atípica, e para sua grande surpresa, ela entende o preconceito que sofreu por ser diferente durante todos esses anos, pois ela também tem autismo assim como ele. Sim, Jack finalmente conheceu alguém que é igual à ele e que sabe como é viver com um transtorno mental que afeta sua vida. Mas ambos aprenderão que tá tudo bem ser diferente, onde ambos terão orgulho de seu autismo e serão positivos por serem diferentes.

Nesse momento, Jack começou a se apaixonar pela Alice, mas ele não queria admitir seus sentimentos pra ela e pra ninguém, pois ele sabe que o seu amor pela Alice nunca daria certo, já que ela é uma humana e ele um animal antropomórfico/furry. No decorrer da história, eu imaginei a Alice e o Jack tendo muita química, onde ela também se apaixonaria por ele. Na reta final da história, ele confessa o seu amor por ela, mas eles não ficam juntos.

Outra coisa que pensei é que enquanto os outros personagens tem poderes ou habilidades especiais, a Alice é a única que não tem nada disso. Porém, ela usa coisas do País das Maravilhas ao seu favor, como por exemplo os doces (bolos e biscoitos) e bebidas não alcoólicas (sucos e refrigerantes) que tem a capacidade de deixá-la gigante ou pequena.

É tipo o Mário quando come uns cogumelos específicos pra virar gigante ou ter super poderes, além de pegar coisas como aquela capinha que vira uma capa de super herói pra ele voar. Outra coisa que pensei é a possibilidade de implementar um vilão perseguidor que irá infernizar a vida dos protagonistas até o fim. Ele seria igual ao Nemesis do Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (1999), onde ele seria o grande filho da puta da história, ficando atrás da Rainha de Copas.

Eu o imaginei sendo o Jabberwocky, um monstro de um poema do livro Alice Através do Espelho (continuação da obra original, As Aventuras de Alice no País das Maravilhas, também escrito por Lewis Caroll). Na minha versão desse monstro, ele seria um tipo de dragão, assim como a contraparte dele do live-action do Alice no País das Maravilhas da Disney (2010). Provavelmente ele seria um monstro criado pela Rainha de Copas, sendo programado para eliminar todos os protagonistas, incluindo a Alice. Por isso ele os persegue até a reta final da minha história e com certeza ele vai deixar todo mundo com raiva dele, rsrs

Além disso, eu também imaginei a Alice sendo uma garota roqueira/metaleira, que nem eu XD Isso explica o motivo dela estar usando uma jaqueta de couro punk rsrs Mas enfim, o que acharam da minha história? No que devo melhorar?

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