#We'll never have Paris

[ughhhdavid]

Thinking about colin's misogynistic comment and how homophobia and misogyny fuel each other and feed off each other and how they're so intrinsically connected and how a gay man crossed a line and made what he thought was a throwaway joke as a way to deflect from his queerness but still participated in the harmful culture that most greatly affected a queer woman who has been a victim of said culture since she was 15 and how it directly lead to him being discovered by his best friend who has made homophobic jokes in the past and ughghghhhhh

[sprqpointintern]

me after seeing keeley stand up for herself and refuse to be slutshamed or blamed for something that wasn't her fault

[tomlinfonda]

3x03 || 3x08

[providing-leverage]

Fuck the Issac and Colin scene did something to me. I'm going to be thinking about it all week. I really hope Colin runs to tell Trent about it, because the alternative is him holding it in all to himself.

I also want a Trent and Issac scene. Just. So bad. I don't know what would happen in it but I want them together.

Plus I think at the end, Colin should get his hair cut.

[oliveoomph]

Keeley & Jack

Ted Lasso - s03e08 - "We'll Never Have Paris"

[lunar-years]

Argh it makes me so mad, that could have been the perfect time to finally save the waste of time plot of the pr business, I have no idea what the writers were thinking, did they really think they were doing something good by devoting a huge chunk of screen time of the football show with all of their fave characters to just one of the characters on her own failing to do the thing she is good at. It could have been the moment for Keeley to finally show her PR talent we know she had, to make some big meaningful post online about body autonomy and respect, to decide by herself to go for it without Jack and her money. Instead no, she tells a few people she isn't ashamed (great, as she shouldn't be, That at least is the Keeley we love) then does nothing until one person in her life apologises and doesn't act like it was her fault. Then she continues to do nothing and gets dumped by Jack. It could have finally made that whole plot line have a point, but no!

I know very little about Keeley Hazell but since people say she has a similar background to Keeley-the-character and was one of the inspirations for Keeley, it boggles my mind that SHE wrote that episode. Like...what? 😭

anyway yeah it's definitely one of the episodes I most had a problem with in s3. The only two things I really like about it is that it absolutely did showcase Juno's acting chops (the weight of her emotions are SO visceral in that episode and that's all thanks to Juno, she did amazingly with material that, let's face it, was pretty shit) as well as Jamie showing up for her + the JamieKeeley hug. But even both of those pros could have been SO much more impactful if they'd written the episode better.

Then there's the stuff I didn't mind in itself because it was in-character bad (or in Jamie's case, misguided) behavior in an intentional way (imo) which is the comment from Roy, Jamie apologizing for something that very much wasn't his fault, and Jack being a jackass. However, I came to mind them later because:

Roy needed to name that mistake in his big apology letter to Keeley or else it doesn't work. Why the fuck did they have him say it then. Ughhhh. It's so shitty that they never have him state WHAT the hell he's apologizing for, not even just about this but about everything to do with the breakup (i mean, if we want to talk about accountability....)

Meanwhile Jamie getting his wires crossed about accountability in that way makes sense for him as a character, and I also do not necessarily think it's Keeley's job to reassure and comfort him there, and I further understand why she wasn't in the right state to do so, anyway. But there should have been some follow-up afterwards where it's made clear it WASN'T JAMIE'S FAULT!! i can't begin to tell you how much I loathe that the prevailing narrative online the next day was "🥺awww Jamie's finally taking responsibility for his actions and finding accountability!!🥺" gross. Jamie was a victim of the leak, too.

i have the minority opinion of not really minding that they made Jack a rich entitled bitch who cares more about her own optics than she does Keeley. 🤷‍♀️ But it was admittedly really hard to watch Keeley beg Jack to take her back an episode later. And the fuck of it all is that i don't even necessarily think that is out of character for Keeley (she's clearly in very bad shape mentally at that point), but the fact that her headspace is never made explicit or explored in any meaningful way...atrocious! what's the point of putting her into these situations if we don't even get a deep dive into her head about it. ugh.

And then there's the stuff that was just straight up stupid and or horrible to watch, like Keeley being bad at her job for some reason and that truly terrible rebecca keeley scene and the even more terrible after school special locker room psa where the players delete every photo they've ever put on their phones 🙄

[illiana-mystery]

Every Time Fred was a (Medical) Doctor

[boardchairman-blog]

**Shots of the Episode**

Ted Lasso (2020)

Season 3, Episode 8: “We’ll Never Have Paris” (2023) Director: Erica Dunton Cinematographer: Vanessa Whyte

[friendraichu]

im getting very strong vibes that ted and michelle getting back together is the show's endgame, which isn't my preferred outcome but i suppose it's probably what would make the most sense (and would be really nice for henry). ted has grown into someone that doesn't need to be relentlessly optimistic and is more willing to express his genuine feelings and it seems like michelle might be falling back in love with him.

[ughhhdavid]

It's him!!!!! 💖💞❤️💕💘❤️💓💗💝💘💖💕💞

[sprqpointintern]

[laserpinksteam]

Film after film: We'll Never Have Paris (dir. Simon Helberg, Jocelyn Towne, 2014)

The premise of this impressively drab and typically self-deprecating rom-com is that its protagonist has a relationship with Lynskey's character while thinking that another woman, who "looks like a model," would not find him attractive. The problems start when she seemingly does. Then he has a change of mind and chases Lynskey to Paris, where he tries to persuade her to get back to NY and to the relationship with him. And he eventually wears her down! Ivey, Light, and Molina provide some sharpness in typical-parent cameo roles. As a writer, Helberg hits predictable notes, which is perhaps why he does the same as this film's lead actor. For a better display of his talent, check a more recent series, Poker Face.

[jopzer]

okay. i have finally finished my rewatch and i think i've finally made sense of my thoughts vis a vis ted and jamie's relationship.

i think it's very interesting that the exact moment ted pulls away from being directly involved in jamie's development is when he realizes that what jamie needs is a father. like in season one and arguably the first half of season two he is very hands on in trying to get jamie to realize his potential/the error of his ways but like. things are noticeably different after he sees him and james through the door, and then after wembley they do not really interact again in a meaningful way until mom city. roy literally picks it up as ted sets it down, like. he can't be what jamie needs he doesn't Want to, he can barely even handle what he feels for henry like we see in mom city, he's not picking up a bonus son you know

i really do think it's a very interesting way to handle their relationship specifically. they're so so intertwined in their character arcs and they're constantly setting each other's off but they can't really meet in the middle because ted can't/won't connect with him on that level. they're a son without a father and a father without a son and they can't click into that relationship because ted pulls away from him the minute it becomes clear that's what jamie needs, and we see it come full circle and see why in his monologue during mom city

[oliveoomph]

Juno Temple as Keeley Jones

[oflightningandstars]

I think we're at 3...??? Ted Lasso episodes in a row that made me cry???

...Actually, looking at the list of episodes it might be more like 5

[illiana-mystery]

2014