#Warren hate

[throughthelookingmax]

I wanted to reblog this because I love Tangent’s take on Max being a lesbian (I found this because I was trying to find the game quotes on Max being romantically disinterested in Warren). I kept reading and I loved everyone else’s input on why Max is actually a lesbian!

As someone who has had this headcanon for years but could never understand why (and was too scared to say anything about it because I’d get shunned for it), seeing so many people present all of the evidence that I always believed in but could never figure out how to explain, it makes me so happy!!

And then OOP MY GF AND I JUMPSCARE 😂 Man, I feel so honoured that people are using me and Chloe’s cosplay (and the original art that we recreated) to further point out confirmation that Max is lesbian! I feel like I’m serving my community 🫡

But holy shit! Max was forced a male love interest in DE by Square Enix! That makes so much more sense! I mean, DE isn’t canon to me, because of how much they obliterated Chloe’s character and turned her into someone she’s the exact opposite of (I also believe that they ruined Max’s character, although not as bad as Chloe’s). But it makes sense as to why Vinh is such a scummy character, in the hopes that no one will WANT Max to be with him, to get around the forced male love interest.

Thanks, SE! You destroyed what Max Caulfield meant to all of us!!!

Unpopular Opinion Time

I’m going to say something that I know some folk are going to disagree on… but I honestly feel that Max Caulfield is a closeted lesbian instead of being bisexual. And I think there is sufficient information in the game and with Max’s journals to verify this viewpoint.

First, it’s important to explain something: you can be lesbian and still have had sex with men. There are lesbians who were married to men for years before finally accepting the truth about themselves… just as there are gay men who were suppressing the truth about themselves and then after a decade or more and having had kids, divorcing their wives because they were gay all along. You can be lesbian and not know it… all you know is that something is wrong. You know that you should be happy with a guy and can even have the most decent boyfriend or husband in the world… and yet it doesn’t work because you are not wired that way. It happens.

These women (and men) were raised to believe they were straight. They were raised to believe they should be dating someone of the opposite gender. They can end up having families and yet have that niggling sense of something being wrong in the back of their heads. This is because of a concept called heteronormativity or the view that heterosexuality is the default sexual orientation. You can be raised believing you’re straight (or cisgender for that matter) and never quite understand why things feel off. 

Now let’s look at Max Caulfield. Folk like to claim she’s bisexual because of the pseudo-romance angle with Warren Graham and with Max’s claims of being attracted to “skater dudes” but that the attraction isn’t mutual. Yet when you see Max interacting with the skaters of Blackwell, she knows pretty much nothing about them and outside of the whole “I’m into them” never seems to show any actual attraction toward them. It’s a line that falls flat. It’s like the writers decided to check the box “likes guys who ride on skateboards” and never went anywhere with it… or at least it might seem that way until you find out that Chloe Price was into skateboarding… Max’s best friend who she is increasingly crushing on as the game continues. It’s reasonable to ask how much of Max’s attraction to “skater dudes” is because she is into Chloe skating but doesn’t realize for a while that she could be into Chloe. 

Max’s relationship with Warren is more complicated. There has been claims that Warren’s romance angle (which never was that strong a path in the game, especially when compared to that of Chloe) was added in because of a strong positive fan reaction to Warren. Even then, there are enough actions that Warren takes that honestly are disturbing that honestly, Warren is not a good match for Max. The boy photoshops a picture of Max with him and keeps it in his gym locker - a place that Max is unlikely to ever see it, but also a place where other guys will see it and thus give Warren “bragging rights” about Max. He also has a date lined up with Brooke but asks out Max and then if the player has Max accept Warren’s date invite will call Brooke while Max is still around and cancel the date with Brooke and state he’s going with Max instead. He even instigates fights with Nathan Prescott, likely in an attempt to “show off” to Max and to be her “knight in shining armor.” 

A much larger factor as to why I just don’t get a sense of Max being into Warren is her journal. I half-suspect some fans don’t bother reading it which is a shame as it gives a lot of important details about Max and her thoughts and views. Most important to this is her early comments about Warren in which outside of considering him “dark and witty” she shows no attraction to him. In fact, on the first day of the game, her journal has this specifically to say:

We talked about Warren and Dana implied he likes me. Ew.

Damning words. Seriously, she went “ew” over a “dark and witty” guy “liking” her. Another torpedo in the water has this comment in Max’s journal if she accepted the date with Warren: 

Hope he doesn’t make a lame move on me… (Not that he would, egomaniac.) Warren and I do have a lot in common, but he’s like a supercool geek brother…

First, she doesn’t think Warren is into her. In fact, even entertaining that thought has Max calling herself an egomaniac. But what’s especially damning is the fact she considers Warren a “supercool geek brother.” I’m sorry, but Max went beyond Friendzoning Warren. She brotherzoned him.

The closest her journal has to suggesting Max is at all attracted to Warren is her journal entry if you didn’t kiss Chloe and do kiss Warren: 

Considering how insane my life has been this week, kissing Warren in the middle of a deadly storm didn’t seem to be that strange. It felt like we were flipping off the cruel universe… and if I was going to die, I wanted one kiss from a boy I cared about.

Honestly it’s not much different if you also have Max kiss Chloe (though the line changes to “I wanted one kiss from two people I truly cared about”), and honestly if she thinks about Warren as a brother then obviously she’d still care for him. So the whole bit of Max being into Warren really starts to fall apart when you take a long look at the facts and Max’s journal.

Another interesting bit can be found in Max’s journal if the player has Max not kiss Chloe… and it’s this line: 

I would have, but I didn’t like being dared like it was some big deal. Maybe I am scared. Of what? I think I’m too young for marriage.

Later, again if Max hadn’t kissed Chloe, when she returns from her first timeline alteration trip she writes this in her journal: 

I’ve never been so glad to see Chloe in my life. The second I saw her blue hair and that beautiful pissed off face, I kind of regretted not kissing her when she double dared me. Maybe if she had double dog dared me…

And Max’s final entry in the “didn’t kiss Chloe” setting is thus:

Maybe that’s why I hated watching Chloe being so cruel in the nightmare, calling me names and trying to hurt me… I was surprised that it was like a physical pain in my heart. Is that the power of love… or friendship?

Is that the power of love… or friendship? Max asks that in both settings, in which she kissed Chloe and where she didn’t. It’s much more obvious when Max is busy kissing Chloe on that third day (and seriously, Dontnod should have included an option for Max to say “then don’t back away this time!” if you have Max Rewind for another kiss three or more times).

The argument for Max being into guys is at its heart as flimsy as that of Chloe being into guys because she has condoms in her wallet. Yet the condoms can be explained away as used to keep sex toys sanitary (yes, women can get STDs from other women if they’re not careful!), and Max’s “interest” in guys can easily be seen as “expected” of her. Given that Max can literally step out of Chloe’s closet to protect Chloe… Life is Strange can easily be seen as Max’s coming to terms with her own lesbianism and stepping away from an easy and expected life to embrace the unknown with the woman she loves by her side.

[femslashspuffy]

Just started thinking about how much I hate Warren and I started a small text to my friend about it and it turned into an anti Warren hate letter he's the most vile character on the entire show I hate him sooo much

[a-narcissists-warren]

I wanted to draw something like this but i forgot and then i rewatched the episode again today so :3

[happyvoltz]

my fav american girls

[cupcakeshakesnake]

Guardian demon (contractually obligated; involuntary)

[eva-birdman]

Double Jacobis' misadventures on the Hephaestus

[saturday-byte]

Goobers :] cropping is kinda shit but shhh you didn't notice

(reblogs > likes !!)

[sanctuaryblur]

Day 14 - Oc appreciation!!

They’re so stupid I love u Colin and Michael 😭😭😭 Mads is holding me at gun point rn plz send help

Fun fact the alien meme was the one of first like Michael and Colin core posts Mads sent me!!!!!!

[feltcreature]

i hate him

[xxplastic-cubexx]

HAVE U SEEN THAT ONE CHERIK DEVIL AND ANGEL COSTUME HALLOWEEN ART THAT ONE COMIC BOOK ARTIST DID ON TWT

NO CAUUUUUSSE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HOW FAST I MADE THE WHOLE THING MY HOMESCREEN: THE ARTIST IS JOSH CASSARA AND I OWE HIM EVERYTHING

the fuckin sillies chat i cant STAND them……

[givingairtomymouth]

Kudos to all the Zutarians, it takes resilience to constantly defend a perfectly fine non canon ship from people who did not understand the concept of "ship" to begin with.

[eddzzworld]

Kepler drawing

[longmaxsilvarg]

"or whatever" i just know he was shitting bricks when max didn't immediately agree to dinner

[himboscum]

hello grahamscott nation,,, i am missing exposure like crazy

do NOT talk to me about the background i Dont Know

[rozeliyawashereyall]

Guess who made these after trying to draw a hunter but it looked so off they made headshots of their faces with their headcanons infused so they'll feel better.

It's me. I'm them.

I have so many more headcanons for the hunter trio—but until I know how to word them properly without sounding insane it's staying in my bunker.

Do I tag Reedmace and the VAs?? I'm tagging Reedmace and the VAs.

@capitalmaudios @dayspriteofficial @obsidian-lantern @magebunkshelf @atonalasmr

[whatsjulietslastname]

expending on the mlm pricefield thing (and i’m not talking about double exposure anymore), i think if pricefield had been one of the first mlm pairing to be openly queer in video games history, it would’ve been way more of a big deal back when the game was released and years later. i also think little to no people would be debating whether their relationship is platonic or not, and people would’ve been way faster at jumping to the conclusion that you were homophobic if you thought they were.

historically, the most popular mlm pairings (i’m thinking johnlock, kirk and spock from star trek, merlin and arthur, all the h*rry p*tter and marvel gay ships) have a way bigger fanbase and are way less denied than the wlw ones (i’m thinking supercop, emma swan and regina mills, betty and veronica from riverdale etc). (for the record, i looked up “queerbaiting” to make this post and have examples, and found like a dozens of mlm pairings and always the same few wlw ones…) AND it is way more socially acceptable to say “those two women have a platonic relationship” whereas, if you do the same with johnlock, for instance, you WILL get an angry twenty paragraphs long reply about how there was nothing platonic about it (even though John Watson married a woman).

my point is not “he married a woman so he wasn’t queer” my point is, whenever one part of a wlw pairing has a boyfriend, or a man who she shows a glimpse of interest in (*cough cough* Warren Graham *cough cough*), it is IMMEDIATELY used as ‘evidence’ that this character cannot be queer since she can be in a heterosexual relationship — which is an argument that, again, you will practically never find directed at a gay ship. and, again, the few people who do use this argument against mlm pairings are called ‘homophobic’.

AGAIN, i am not saying that you cannot ship Warren and Max or are homophobic if you do, i’m saying that if Chloe and Max had been two guys, people would’ve been so focused on them, on Max’s diary’s entries, and the two possible kisses they can share onscreen, and the flirting and implications in their relationship, and Chloe’s obvious attraction to Max, that grahamfield would’ve had a way smaller fanbase — or no fanbase at all. and people would’ve absolutely disregarded the fact that you can make Max romance Warren (who is a girl in this scenario). they would’ve seen Warren’s nearly one-sided flirting, and would’ve immediately gone “she (Warren) is in love with him (Max) and he doesn’t give a fuck” (and the kiss in the Two Whales would’ve been collectively ignored by the entire fandom, as is Mary Watson, or Pepper Potts, or Tonks, or Ginny Weasley).

but BECAUSE Max and Chloe are girls, people are still debating whether she is even queer or not by saying “if i make her romance Warren she experiences no attraction towards Chloe and therefore is straight” which is false, because the attraction is HERE. all you, as a player, get to decide is whether or not Max acts on it. and no matter how much evidence there is that Max is indeed romantically interested in Chloe, you will NEVER convince those people, because to them, the moment a woman and a guy interact in a non-platonic way, this woman has to end up with said guy, no matter how queer-coded her relationship with another woman is.

and now that pricefield is broken up, people who would’ve been rioting if it had been guys are calling people who are rightfully upset ‘dramatic’. just try and imagine the reaction of the Sherlock fandom if Sherlock was returning without Watson because “they argued off-screen and decided to stop seeing each other”. those guys aren’t childhood best friends, are never romantically involved, their fandom hasn’t been begging to have a glimpse of them together for ten years, and yet i can’t even imagine how angry people would be. all this fandom was asking was to at least not destroy Max and Chloe’s friendship, and look where we are now.