#Wagner coup
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madame-helen · 1 year ago
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lilhawkeye3 · 1 year ago
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gotta be real, did not have “titantic kills people” and “another Russian coup” on my bingo card for this century…
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lautesschweigen · 1 year ago
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whimsicallywiddershins · 1 year ago
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The best part of all of this is that if Putin flees Russia, he will be arrested for war crimes. If the coup succeeds, and he stays in Russia, he will probably be arrested for war crimes. There is no place for him to hide.
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generallemarc · 1 year ago
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Gotterdammerung running update:
Ramzan Kadyrov, the brutal leader of Chechnya, has denounced Prigozhin as a traitor and has said that his personal militia will be sent to join the fight.
An earlier post I made regarding Wagner announcing that "there will be a new President" was in error-that post was made by a Wagner-associated Telegram account, not one of the ones known for sure to actually be run by Wagner directly. So they might still be trying for the "the emperor is misled by his wicked advisors!" ploy.
There was a confirmed shootdown of an An-26 transport plane by Wagner. This was the aircraft they claimed belonged to the Ministry of Defense. It's not clear yet if any personnel were being transported or if it was just a cargo flight.
The British Ministry of Defense has said that, given how relatively sparse the fighting in Voronezh has been so far compared to the distances being covered by Wagner units, it is likely that some units had remained "passive" and "acquiesced to Wagner". Whether that's in reference to regular-ass police and Army conscripts or more powerful units is unknown, as we don't even know what units are where rn.
I saw a report about the 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade(which is based in Moscow Oblast) refusing to leave their barracks as part of the mass mobilization of forces in the area, but I can't find any other mention of that anywhere rn.
I'm going to bed, and will hopefully be back online at 2pm central time. I'll keep doing these tomorrow, and for as long as this situation keeps having new developments every 20 minutes. Please pray that whatever the outcome of this is will lead to an end to the war and, God willing, an end to the oppression of the people of Russia and occupied Ukraine.
Remember that doge meme about coming back in time to warn us about something happening on June 23rd, 2023? Yeah, that's both way funnier and not funny at all now.
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ivovynckier · 1 year ago
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Prigozhin should have used a mushroom when he was still Vladimir's caterer.
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triquizzies · 1 year ago
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this timeline man
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anarcho-neoliberalism · 1 year ago
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judoippon · 1 year ago
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Damnit Perun you can't just drop a one hour video at 10pm on one of the most interesting things to happen in the war all year
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maximdorky · 1 year ago
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This past week's news has been a pretty golden week for all kinds of rough chuckles. (Related, over the past 24 hours: Привет, я Евгений Викторович Пригожин, а это Джекэсс. )
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bloodbank4050 · 1 year ago
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lesmotsquinousmanqueny · 1 year ago
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Freaking mental that russians rise up not against the war but because they don't have enough amunitions in the war to kill ukrainians.
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generallemarc · 1 year ago
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Gotterdammerung running update:
This is what I've been able to piece together of the major events that happened as I was asleep. I'm leaving out alot of minor encounters and claims that I couldn't confirm visually.
Wagner's units had made it to the border of Moscow Oblast, though that's not the same thing as the city of Moscow(like how Mexico City is surrounded by the State of Mexico)
At least one more Russian helicopter was shot down, for a minimum total of four(probably more, but I'm only reporting things I have personally seen visual confirmation of)
That An-26 that was shot down was stated to have had three people on it, meaning that it was probably on a supply run and not carrying Shoigu or Gerasimov themselves
Kazakhstan had apparently been considering shutting down its border with Russia, and if they're smart they still are.
Putin made calls to the leaders of Belarus, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Turkey, probably to try and assure them nothing was going to happen to him
There is at least one visually-confirmed instance of Russian Army forces attacking a civilian truck(it blew up, but I can't tell if it was an airstrike or a tank shell or what), and I guarantee there are more that will soon be verified.
Saw a claim that Wagner released a bunch of convicts from prisons in Rostov to join their ranks, but I'm not sure A. if that happened or B. what will happen if that happened now that the deal has been made.
Oh yeah, that fucking deal. We literally do not know what it was. All we know is that Lukashenko brokered it and that it made Wagner turn back around(for the moment). Tellingly, there's been no word at all on Shoigu or Gerasimov.
It is possible that, right before that happened, the 217th Parachute Guards Regiment(in Russia paratroopers are seen like Marines, being more elite than the regular army but not quite special forces) went over to Prigozhin. I'm seeing multiple sources claim that, but the video provided as evidence is of a guy speaking in Russian and I can't find a full translation.
As I was writing this, one of the accounts I follow for up-to-the-minute info posted a claim from a Russian source saying that part of the deal was giving the Wagnerites immunity from prosecution for the events of the past day. No confirmation, but it would make sense.
What in the actual fuck is this clown world.
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kneedeepincynade · 1 year ago
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In my personal opinion, Prigozhin was not wrong in his actions. The ministry of defence behaviour towards wagner pmc and the war has not been up to standard,causing a lot of unnecessary casualty and dragging this war much further than neded. But prigozhin actions were done in a moment of national crisis and put the Russian nation in great peril. Those who quote the October revolution or "turn the imperialists war into civil war" neither undestand the book after the title nor undestand the reason of the russian Civil War. Zyuganov position against a possible wagner coup and maintaining national unity was the right position to take. I don't believe Prigozhin has been paid to the West, mainly because of the flimsy evidence to support this.
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anarcho-neoliberalism · 1 year ago
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Top is the reaction to Prigozhin's telegram announcing his mutiny, bottom is the reaction to Prigozhin announcing the end of his mutiny and is departure to Belarus
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jh1nlemon · 1 year ago
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Una domenica - 25 giugno, al quanto insolita.
Risveglio lento, saranno state le 9.30 passate, aggiungendo la routine di controllo notizie, dal letto sarò uscito quasi alle 10.
Colazione: caffè e torta, oggi, come ieri in trasferta, quindi va così, in genere yogurtino caffè, e ansia.
Poi però quella sensazione di amaro in bocca, o come disse un fine utente di internet, I feel like having blue balls after the failed coup of yesterday.
Si perché mannaggia la mignotta, ieri era tutto surreale, un altro pelato, fuori di testa, russo, cattivo come il mal di pancia in un ascensore bloccato, sembrava potesse essere ciò che avrebbe riportato, il mai abbastanza compianto, spolverature di sedie di Servizio Pubblico, assieme al nostalgico di quando c’era lei, si i russi sono più romantici, e hanno una lei, non un lui: la madre patria tutta unita.
Ieri non avendo granché da fare, e folgorato dalla cronaca, continuavo a refreshare i tag #wagner , #russia e incrementare le fonti da seguire su mastodon, si con Twitter ho chiuso.
E cristo madonna, video di sti soldati che tra la gente si facevano strada con destinazione Mosca, poi il discorso alle 9 di Putin, difese assenti, arrivati nel primo pomeriggio sembrava solo questione di tempo, l’autostrada che veniva maltrattata dalle ruspe per rallentare l’avanzata, il sindaco di Mosca che prima dichiara che lunedì tutti in ferie, e poi addirittura lo stato d’emergenza con tutti chiusi in casa.
E poi, poi un cazzo, alle 19.30, a 200km da Mosca, la Mariya Delano scrive che il caro Luka ha trovato l’accordo con il pelato, o meglio, con entrambi i pelati, e non se ne fa nulla, per senso di responsabilità si ritirano.
Mo, delle considerazioni su come lo “zar” ne esca indebolito, il “re è nudo” e altre fregnacce mi stanno un po’ strette, si perché questo sono 20 anni che rompe il cazzo con le sue mini e macro invasioni, e per na volta che davvero sembra che debba tirare il calzino ci troviamo con il più grande nulla di fatto dei tempi recenti.
Ma scusa, ma come minimo, bombardate un palazzo della giustizia, anche evacuato, ma qualcosa va fatto. Cioè mo pure sti mercenari, fanno come Netflix che dicono che la stagione 2 non è stata rinnovata.
E quindi niente, #bringbackthecoup , invadi la Russia dalla Bielorussia, ma non possiamo rimanere così.
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