#j2 fallout

[queermania]

dont you think the jivorce jokes are kind of mean? nobody would be laughing if jensen was the one who had the public twitter meltdown but because it's jared suddenly it's a joke

i mean i can't for the life of me even imagine a scenario in which jensen logs into twitter and has a full drunken meltdown because jared didn't tell him about his production company's plans for a tv show that doesn't involve him but if it happened and he tweeted "Et tu brute?? Wow. What a truly awful thing you've done. #Bravo you coward." at some unsuspecting writer who was just hired to do a job, i can guarantee you i would still be clowning.

[couldnt-think-of-a-funny-name]

I know this is such old news but jarpad not knowing about the winchesters gets even more funny when you remember bobby was in the finale, literally doing Nothing. the explanation given was that bobby has been in every season of spn and it would've felt wrong without him.....as if sam wasn't in season every too? 😭

[eepy-pleepy]

Once again thinking about Misha's SPN mockumentary

Specifically the scene where Jensen sees j*red and

Like it's a documentary actually

[deangloriam]

this is a totally normal reaction btw

[loveinterestcastiel]

pls tell me what you chose and why in the tags and also reblog :)

HONORABLE MENTION:

misha, in a squeaky voice: “i’m the one who gripped you right and raised you from perdition.”

jensen: “he sounds like that in the morning.”

jared: “how do you know?”

*cue mic drop*

[thefableddestiel]

*Dean hands the first blade to Cas instead of Crowley*

Crowley: et tu brute??? Wow. What a truly awful thing you’ve done. #bravo you coward.

[strawlessandbraless]

Convincing myself Misha and Jensen are waiting for an episode where they can dedicate more time to Cas and Dean dealing with their unresolved issues and to talk about that goodbye a bit

[gay-david-tennant]

[livebloggingmydescentintomadness]

Wait I’m late to this, so I’m genuinely asking. Do Jensen and Jared secretly hate each other or something?

oh. uh...

kind of, basically, yeah. jared has been an asshole who receives special treatment from the network for a long time, while jensen has tried to keep the peace and got fucked over by the end of spn. now that he's free from having to work with jared all the time, he seems to have lost his patience with jared and has been getting noticeably more and more prickly toward him. jared seems oblivious to this, or doesn't care, because he thinks being an asshole is funny.

the punchline is, jensen now has full control of the spn franchise as it moves forward. if jared ever wants to be in a spn show again, he's going to have to do it on jensen's terms.

here's some links to further explore the drama:

the "gutted" incident + building tensions surrounding the finale

"j2 fallout theory" explained

jared's homophobic destiel rant + jensen's face listening to it, his angry body language

my jared tag, for all your "why is jared an asshole?" needs

my j2 tag, for more documentation of jensen having had it with jared's bullshit

[ofmoonsandlight]

hey spn fandom . does anyone remember a thing about jarpad eating like .... raw marinated chicken on the set of spn ?

[queermania]

on the one hand, what an honor to be alive to experience the funniest twitter meltdown ever in real time. but on the other we've already experienced the funniest twitter meltdown ever so. all we're doing now is marking time until the end.

[paage]

Jarpad in the style of Rupi Kaur

Happy 3 year anniversary to one of the funniest tweets of all time

[orionsangel86]

God same about Jensen!

He clearly had some insight into Dean that came out intermittently I just thought it was Instincts he had because he'd internalised Dean so much but didn't actually understand what he was saying, stuck in ol' "oh haha Dean is a stupid repressed child who only likes guns" mindset

Turns out WE'RE the fools and Jensen's been playing us ALL

when do you think he took up plans to take over SPN himself? I honestly think it's when they decided to end SPN at S15 and talks about how they should end the story were going on and they had to send him to KRIPKE of all people

Yeah its wild. I would love for him (with Misha's help) to write a tell all book one day.

I feel like jackles has been a far better actor than we all gave him credit for. He has always been very switched on to fandom, he knew about the warring sides, the hate and the bullshit, and I reckon he was being told for years by his bosses to always keep all sides of fandom happy and to play his damn role at all times (ironically just like how Chuck ordered Dean to play his role - life imitates art too often in this fucking show its almost scary). Hence why he's insights into Dean often came across contradictory and odd. Sometimes he had beautiful accurate insights which make total sense, and other times (usually in j2 panels) he'd regress back to the "haha dean just likes guns and girls like a macho man should".

We will never truly know what went on behind the scenes following the moment j2m announced s15 was the end (unless jackles writes that book) so its hard to truly speculate when jackles decided to take things into his own hands, but I also believe it was around about the time they planned the finale and everyone was kissing jarpiss's asshole and jackles was left in the cold to stare down a shitty death scene he didnt agree with. Going to kripke was prob the final straw for him.

He was gaslit into thinking that ending was okay, and whenever he tried to question it he was told to sit down shut up and do what he was told, all the while watching his manchild tantrum throwing drama queen of a costar get his dick sucked by the entire production team for coughing a few times and puffing out his chest and singing the praises of a finale that pushed the spotlight firmly on him and his cop propaganda show.

So yeah, jackles was done dirty, and so he became That Bitch and started making plans. He had the production company set up only days after the finale aired, turned off his social media and refused to be involved in any spn finale celebratory CW PR (absolute King Shit)

I think he started making calls before they even finished filming. Dean wasnt even cold on the ground before The Winchesters had been dreamed up as a way to bring him back. Jackles rare few post finale SM posts all alluded to Dean returning again. He knew what he was doing.

At the same time he was ghosting the manchild, and planning to move his family to Colorado to get away from him. After SPN finally wrapped in mid 2020, him and Jarpiss went their separate ways. They barely spoke after that. Jackles was setting in motion all his plans to fix everything that he considered a personal afront to him (because he is absolutely deranged and literally possessed by the ghost of Dean Winchester) and those plans certainly involve fixing the ending somehow - in a way that isnt obvious no doubt, because he still has to be careful and at least pretend like he respects the ending and his egotistical douchebag of a costar (though he hasn't been doing a very good job of either tbh!)

Thats all my speculation anyway. Holding out for that tell all book jackles!

[dimplecki]

jensen did jared so dirty by not including him in the spinoff :(

not even talking about their fallout or whatever

but the money is SAM AND DEAN 

and jared holds the show so deep in his heart and to be left out of the winchesters must have shattered him man. 

he said in interviews all the time he doens’t want the spn final to be a goodbye to Sam. he looked so hopeful for a reboot or a movie and jensen went and produced a whole spinoff without even telling his co-star pfffff

why did jensen do it im sorry i just don’t understand is jared really so awful to work with? that he must be excluded from his own shows spin off? 

[single-snail]

anyone have that video of like that virtual panel where j2 were talking about the prequel or maybe just the possibility of more spn projects idk i don’t remember the details but jared read off the fan question “will jared be involved?” and said absolutely yes meanwhile jackles is just staring blank face? i’m looking for it