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shkspr · 3 years ago

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hi. on your post where you may or may not have ended on 'moffat is either your angel or your devil' did you have maybe an elaboration on that somewhere that i could possibly hear about. i'm very much a capaldi era stan and i've never tried to defend the matt smith era even though it had delightful moments sometimes so i wonder where that puts me. i'd love to hear your perspective on moffat as a person with your political perspective. -nicole

hi ok sorry i took so long to respond to this but i dont think you know how LOADED this question is for me but i am so happy to elaborate on that for you. first a few grains of salt to flavor your understanding of the whole situation: a. im unfairly biased against moffat bc im a davies stan and a tennant stan; b. i still very much enjoy and appreciate moffat era who for many reasons; and c. i hate moffat on a personal level far more than i could ever hate his work.

the thing is that its all always gonna be a bit mixed up bc i have to say a bunch of seemingly contradictory things in a row. for instance, a few moffat episodes are some of my absolute favorites of the rtd era, AND the show went way downhill when moffat took over, AND the really good episodes he wrote during the rtd era contained the seeds of his destruction.

like i made that post about the empty child/the doctor dances and it holds true for blink and thats about it bc the girl in the fireplace and silence in the library/forest of the dead are good but not nearly on the same level, and despite the fact that i like them at least nominally, they are also great examples of everything i hate about moffat and how he approached dw as a whole.

basically. doctor who is about people. there are many things about moffats tenure as showrunner that i think are a step up from rtd era who! actual gay people, for one! but i think that can likely be attributed mostly to an evolving Society as opposed to something inherent to him and his work, seeing as rtd is literally gay, and the existence of queer characters in moffats work doesnt mean the existence of good queer characters (ill give him bill but thats it!)

i have a few Primary Grievances with moffat and how he ran dw. all of them are things that got better with capaldi, but didnt go away. they are as follows:

moffat projects his own god complex onto the doctor

rtd era who had a doctor with a god complex. you cant ever be the doctor and not have a god complex. the problem with moffats era specifically is that the god complex was constant and unrepentant and was seen as a fundamental personality trait of the doctor rather than a demon he has to fight. he has the Momence where you feel bad for him, the Momence where he shows his humility or whatever and youre reminded that he doesnt want to be the lonely god, but those are just. moments. in a story where the doctor thinks hes the main character. rtd era doctor was aware that he wasnt the main character. he had to be an authority sometimes and he had to be the loner and he had to be sad about it, but he ultimately understood that he was expendable in a narrative sense.

this is how you get lines like “were the thin fat gay married anglican marines, why would we need names as well?” from the same show that gave you the gut punch moment at the end of midnight when they realize that nobody asked the hostess for her name. and on the one hand, thats a small sticking point, but on the other hand, its just one small example of the simple disregard that moffat has for humanity.

incidentally, this is a huge part of why sherlock sucked so bad: moffats main characters are special bc theyre so much bigger and better than all the normal people, and thats his downfall as a showrunner. he thinks that his audience wants fucking sheldon cooper when what they want is people.

like, ok. think of how many fantastic rtd era eps are based in the scenario “what if the doctor wasnt there? what if he was just out of commission for a bit?” and how those eps are the heart of the show!! bc theyre about people being people!! the thing is that all of the rtd era companions would have died for the doctor but he understood and the story understood that it wasnt about him.

this is like. nine sending rose home to save her life and sacrifice his own vs clara literally metaphysically entwining her existence w the doctor. ten also sending rose with her family to save her life vs river being raised from infancy to be obsessed w the doctor and then falling in love w him. martha leaving bc she values herself enough to make that decision vs amy being treated like a piece of meat.

and this is simultaneously a great callback to when i said that moffats episodes during the rtd era sometimes had the same problems as his show running (bc girl in the fireplace reeks of this), and a great segue into the next grievance.

moffat hates women

he hates women so fucking much. g-d, does steven moffat ever hate women. holy shit, he hates women. especially normal human women who prioritize their normal human lives on an equal or higher level than the doctor. moffat hated rose bc she wasnt special by his standards. the empty child/the doctor dances is the nicest he ever treated her, and she really didnt do much in those eps beyond a fuck ton of flirting.

girl in the fireplace is another shining example of this. youve got rose (who once again has another man to keep her busy, bc moffat doesnt think shes good enough for the doctor) sidelined for no reason only to be saved by the doctor at the last second or whatever. and then youve got reinette, who is pretty and powerful and special!

its just. moffat thinks that the doctor is as shallow and selfish as he is. thats why he thinks the doctor would stay in one place with reinette and not with rose. bc moffat is shallow and sees himself in the doctor and doesnt think he should have to settle for someone boring and normal.

not to mention rose met the doctor as an adult and chose to stay with him whereas reinette is. hm. introduced to the doctor as a child and grows up obsessed with him.

does that sound familiar? it should! bc it is also true of amy and river. and all of them are treated as viable romantic pairings. bc the only women who deserve the doctor are the ones whose entire existence revolves around him. which includes clara as well.

genuinely i think that at least on some level, not even necessarily consciously, that bill was a lesbian in part bc capaldi was too old to appeal to mainstream shippers. like twelve/clara is still a thing but not as universally appealing as eleven/clara but i am just spitballing. but i think they weighed the pros and cons of appealing to the woke crowd over the het shippers and found that gay companion was more profitable. anyway the point is to segue into the next point, which is that moffat hates permanent consequences.

moffat hates permanent consequences

steven moffat does not know how to kill a character. honestly it feels like hes doing it on purpose after a certain point, like he knows he has this habit and hes trying to riff on it to meme his own shit, but it doesnt work. it isnt funny and it isnt harmless, its bad writing.

the end of the doctor dances is so poignant and so meaningful and so fucking good bc its just this once! everybody lives, just this once! and then he does p much the same thing in forest of the dead - this one i could forgive, bc i do think that preserving those peoples consciousnesses did something for the doctor as a character, it wasnt completely meaningless. but everything after that kinda was.

rory died so many times its like. get a hobby lol. amy died at least once iirc but it was all a dream or something. clara died and was erased from the doctors memory. river was in prison and also died. bill? died. all of them sugarcoated or undone or ignored by the narrative to the point of having effectively no impact on the story. the point of a major character death is that its supposed to have a point. and you could argue that a piece of art could be making a point with a pointless death, ie. to put perspective on it and remind you that bad shit just happens, but with moffat the underlying message is always “i can do whatever i want, nothing is permanent or has lasting impact ever.”

basically, with moffat, tragedy exists to be undone. and this was a really brilliant, really wonderful thing in the doctor dances specifically bc it was the doctor clearly having seen his fair share of tragedy that couldnt be helped, now looking on his One Win with pride and delight bc he doesnt get wins like this! and then moffat proceeded to give him the same win over and over and over and over. nobody is ever dead. nobody is ever unable to be saved. and if they are, really truly dead and/or gone, then thats okay bc moffat has decided that [insert mitigating factor here]*

*the mitigating factor is usually some sort of computerized database of souls.

i can hear the moffat stans falling over themselves to remind me that amy and rory definitely died, and they did - after a long and happy life together, they died of old age. i dont consider that a character death any more than any other character choosing to permanently leave the tardis.

and its not just character deaths either, its like, everything. the destruction of gallifrey? never mind lol! character development? scrapped! the same episode four times? lets give it a fifth try and hope nobody notices. bc he doesnt know how to not make the doctor either an omnipotent savior or a self-pitying failure.

it is in nature of doctor who, i believe, for the doctor to win most of the time. like, it wouldnt be a very good show if he didnt win most of the time. but it also wouldnt be a very good show if he won all of the time. my point is that moffats doctor wins too often, and when he doesnt win, it feels empty and hollow rather than genuinely humbling, and you know hes not gonna grow from it pretty much at all.

so like. again, i like all of doctor who i enjoy all of it very much. i just think that steven moffat is a bad show runner and a decent writer at times. and it is frustrating. and im not here to convince or convert anyone im just living my truth. thank you for listening.

#sorry if this is repetitive or makes no sense or if i got some details of the show wrong #i simply couldnt be bothered to put too much effort into this post #lest it become a research paper and take me several weeks to answer #anyway thats all my opinions #dw #ok to rb

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inkwardspots · 3 years ago

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Excuse me for the rant but...

Saw this post about plotholes and I can't help but apply it to GITF.

First -- IT WASNT EVN IN TENS FUCKING CHARACTER?!?!?!

It did not apply with his morals or his bloody emotions in anyway to jump through a BLOODY FUCKING TIME WINDOW WITH NO WAY BACK!!!

This man sent Rose back when faced with a horde of Daleks, and yet is comfortable leaving her abandoned on a metal ship, with no way to reach her, no guarantee of her safety, no way that he has immediate knowledge of her survival, WHEN NOT EVEN TWENTY MINUTES AGI SHE WAS ABOUT TO BE CHOPPED INTO FUCKING BITS BY METAL DRIOIDS?!?!?!

You leave the woman who you died for, her best friend whose a new, inexperienced companion and your blimmin' TARDIS, your one constant in all 9 fucking lives, for a lady who you snogged for less than a minute!!!!

And the FACT of the matter is, SHE'S LITERALLY SOMETHING YOU TRIED TO RUN AWAY FROM GALLIFREY FOR!!!

Did you not run away to escape the confines and rules and regulations that Gallifrey imposed? Did you not ignore their every call, defy their every want they needed from you?

And yet you run into her arms, like a puppy to his mistress, for a woman who barely knows of your tumultuous past. When Rose -- she held your hand when you both thought you were going to die in a basement in Cardiff. She told you "Do it." when you told her all that was stopping you from saving the word was her safety. She was brave enough, loved you enough, to say "I wouldn't have missed it for world." when she faced imminent death at the stalk of a Dalek. She watched her planet burn and yet still was compassionate enough, was brave and believing enough, to get chips with you.

She looked after you whilst you recovered, she grieved the man you where and loved the one you became in equal measure. She was confronted with your past: the Time War, the companions other than her, and was able to accept it; she was able to love you enough to make peace with the parts of your past that you could not.

She was loved you enough TO ABSORB THE BLEEDIN' TIME VORTEX AND YET A FRENCH LADY WHO SEDUCES THE KING IN A BLOODY WIG TURNS YOU ON??!!??!

I can't hope to understand you, and I really don't know why the script wasn't burned to pieces in the first place.

What sense came out of it? What absolute idiocy propelled fucking M*ffat to think this was what people wanted?

Did people want a historical woman worthy of praise reduced to an romance-oriented cardboard cut out when she was a key political player in the French Court? Or perhaps they desired the Doctor more clueless, oblivious -- more deliberately, intentionally hurtful?

Or did M*ffat decide, instead, that an alien who had lived centuries surrounded by influence of humans would forget every lesson taught by those he cherished, would forget every compulsion that made him kinder, braver, more open to acceptance and love by countless companions and one woman who helped him overcome the trauma from the Time War for another woman who had one look into his head, who he kissed once, who didn't even know a lick about the loss and the pain and the horrors?

Who didn't know about a single thing beyond the fact that he was lonely, that he had been there since her childhood (we'll touch on that another day) and beyond the fact that he was looking for something after her?

What sense, what morality COMPELLED HIM TO BECOME AN ABSOLOUTE CAD, M*FFAT!??!?!?

I would like to end by saying, FUCK GITF!TEN'S CHARCTERIZATION!

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picnokinesis · 4 years ago

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Okay the fact that the episode with the TARDIS being pulled out into a human body was like That when there's so much potential that wasnt just haha shes Into The Doctor and it was wasted

Hm, I see where you’re coming from, but I respectfully disagree because I actually really love that episode! I think they explore a lot of really interesting stuff relating to TARDISes - like how they perceive time and the way they view concepts? Like, the whole thing with the telepathic password (delight, crimson, eleven and petrichor, I think?) where you have to imagine the CONCEPT of those words - and I think there was some meta somewhere about how those words were actually supposed to represent Amy, Rory, the Doctor and River, because they were important in that point in time to the TARDIS, which I think is a really neat idea. This comes in to how the TARDIS talks about stuff too - how she calls the Doctor ‘her thief’ and says that she wanted to run away as much as the Doctor did. And then the way that the TARDIS answers Rory’s question about the definition of petrichor before he asked it? The way the first thing she says is ‘goodbye’ and the last thing is ‘hello’? I think that’s so cool, the whole non-linear nature of it. AND THEN LIKE, one of my favourite lines!! “I might not have taken you where you wanted to go, but I always took you where you needed to go!” We heard that from the TARDIS herself, and I just....love that SO much, since it’s such a linchpin in the whole show, and so to hear it said was awesome.

And yeah, I have a couple of gripes with the episode (which are similar gripes I have with the whole of Moffat’s era r.e. the number of innuendos) but like, overall I love it a whole lot. Personally, I don’t think it was wasted, and I don’t think the main take away of the episode was just that the TARDIS is into the Doctor. In fact, I didn’t think that was the take away at all - for me, I think it’s about these two beings who have only had each other for so, so long - they’re each other’s constants, their anchor points, and even when Gallifrey and all the other Time Lords (and all the other TARDISes!) have been lost, they still...have each other, and that’s what they cling to. Which is especially relevant in an episode that starts off with the Doctor thinking he’s found the Corsair and other Time Lords who might have survived the War.

There’s definitely a bunch of other stuff that they could have looked at which would have been neat, but I really love the episode that we got and there’s a LOT of cool stuff there! It’s definitely one that heavily influenced how I write the TARDIS in my fics.

Also, the two of them bickering like an old married couple made my doctor/TARDIS heart sing

#taka replies #I HAD MORE THOUGHTS THAN I REALISED HAHA #anon you're valid if you don't like the episode #but i did HAHAHAH #and that's ok!#we're allowed different opinions #doctor who #the doctor #eleven #the tardis #anon

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rearranging-deck-chairs · 9 months ago

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i think this is part of how she'd struggle with meeting 14. i mean theres a lot of like reasonable grievances i think, theres a lot of ways the doctor was unfair to her that i think they need to talk about and never did bc of circumstances and those circumstances change with 14 so now they must talk.

but beyond that, i think she'd feel sort of...unarmed, and lost. like she knows her doctor like no one else, but this doctor, that everyone else, all these companions, seem to know, she doesnt know. her doctor was always running from that. her doctor was trying to be everything that the doctor before wasnt. or was trying not to be everything he was.

she failed at that of course in many ways, but at the same time that means that all that history, the weight of the title, the resonance of the title throughout the unvierse, yaz hasnt seen that. theres another absence there. the doctor tried to excise something from themself and yaz was presented with whats built around that hole. and yaz knew that person, so well. yaz knew this,,, inverted doctor. this doctor who turned her into a doctor more than she was one herself. yaz knew how she thought and how she felt and reconstructed history that was left out by the hole it left. yaz sees gallifrey as ruins, yaz learns what species the doctor is when theyre...not anymore.

but 14. 14 is the gaps. 14 is all the history. old face, old friends. yaz now sees what her doctor was running from, because hes stopped. but if hes stopped, and her doctor was defined by that flight, that means her doctor is gone. shes here, in 14, every time he mentions anything they did together it proves that her doctor is still here, those times didnt disappear, they still exist in the memories. but the essence of her doctor doesnt exist anymore, precisely because the essence of this doctor is the opposite. it's a response to what her doctor was (as regenerations always are), but i think it would be so hard to deal with for her.

and it wouldnt be, like, jealousy, or shallowness. i think she'd struggle with meeting other companions, but not because of like not being the first or the last, it wouldnt be about that. i think it would be that she doesnt know where she stands anymore. and even more she doesnt know who she is anymore. because she and the doctor started defining themselves in conversation, right? they couldnt speak but their actions were like a call and response. yaz copied the doctor, the doctor copied her. yaz would express love in a cloaked diagonal way ("we were worried about you!") and the doctor would use her words to get that same sentiment across no less cloaked and diagonal ("we're all worried!")

and if the doctor has become the exact opposite of that, if the doctor has turned back into what her doctor was a photonegative of, then what the fuck is left of yaz? she evaporates. i think a lot of her sense of self evaporates in face of 14, i think it'd be really destabilising. she is also a master mirror after all. she knows who she is with her doctor in their tardis. with this doctor in a house? what is she? where is the space for her here?

do you ever think about how yaz had every episode with her doctor. like she was there from the first half hour to the last half hour. she was there basically from regeneration to regeneration. all of 13s life, yaz is there, yaz is in her thoughts, yaz is in her consideration, yaz is right beside her, yaz is right behind her, The Entire Time

cant have a universe without yaz

#literally wrote all this in fic form already so idk what im talking abt but whatevs #whatevs #saturday yaz thoughts #i love her i love her i love her #yaz

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gay-for-thirteen · 5 years ago

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Theory time: alternate universe

So i used to think that ruth!Doctor was the one from a parallel universe, but now im starting to think, it might be the other way around.

Maybe our doctor got flug into a parallel universe at some point. Maybe even during the woman who fell to earth. Heres why

1) The master: we've been talking about this since he came back, which regeneration is he? The whole gallifrey plotline makes it seem like hes the one who came after missy, which would nullify her entire character development during s10. (Which is why none of us wanna accept that). His whole character doesnt seem to fit in the masters narrative.

2) Fam & general public: because of everything we've seen in s1 - 10, the public should be aware of the existance of aliens. Yes sometimes the whole story deleted itself from existance, but in s5 the doctor thinks its weird that amy doesnt know the cybermen, because she should. Everyone should. But not only the fam dont know what a cyberman is (or believe in aliens in the beginning), this seems to be the case for the entire world population.

3) UNIT & Torchwood: how could the government possibly discontinue unit? It was their last line of defense if the doctor wasnt there. But if this is parallel universe in which aliens, for once, dont actually give a fuck about the earth, why would they have UNIT or torchwood? There'd simply be no need for it.

4) Ruth: Of course, the biggest point. We know neither ruth, nor the doctor remember being the other. So they sort of cant be the same doctor right? This is what made me think that ruth!Doctor might be from a parallel universe, but if you watch the episode, its not Ruth that doesnt fit into thw picture, its our Doctor. She is the one out of place, Gat had no idea she existed. More about that:

5) Gat: Now Gat is interesting, because she doesnt know of Gallifrey's destruction. Meaning either shes from a time even before the time war, or shes from a Gallifrey that was never destroyed. Her whole attitude and the way she spoke about it, made it seem like Gallifrey was a lot more hostile and militaristic than what it was made out to be earlier in the series (idk about classic who tho). Maybe she could be from a Gallifrey that won the time war? Or that war didnt even happen for her at all?

6) The cybermen: Jack said the cyberman were a “fallen empire“ and that there had been an alliance that defeated them, by sending something back through time. As far as we know, the cybermen have never been properly defeated? Thats their whole deal, they cant be get rid of. So how could they be a fallen empire?

7) The Doctor: “Time is swirling around me“. Something is brewing at the horizon, and its coming for the Doctor. If she is actually stuck in another universe, maybe its the signs that shes not meant to be there.

I keep thinking about this, and the only thing that falls short in this theory is when this jump into another universe happened, and also why the fuck the doctor hasnt noticed it yet. It must've been in the woman who fell to earth or even prior to that, as the companions are a part of this problem, not knowing about aliens. Not sure where all of this is going to lead.

Ive got some rewatching to do.

#doctor who #dw spoilers

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youremyonlyhope · 5 years ago

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The Timeless Children

Season 12 finale here we go.

“Take my hand.” And again the Doctor leaves her companions to go after the Master. At least this time she kinda chose to go with him. Graham... I don’t like the idea of you guys wearing Cybermen armor.... Master, what exactly is your plan here? Bringing the Cybermen? Graham.... awwww. That was so sweet. Will one of them die? If Graham or Yaz end up converted I will kill someone. “They are mine” nooo shut up Lone Cyberman. “You really think I’m gonna believe anything that comes out of your mouth.” Yes. I will believe him. I trust him to this extent. That was so weird to see a Cyberman move that naturally when Yaz turned to make sure he was gone... So smoothly instead of robotically. Indigenous race... we’re getting to human colonists.... right?... Adopted like Brandon... SHE FELL OFF A CLIFF TOO. WE’VE NEVER SEEN A CHILD REGENERATE BEFORE. THAT’S SO SAD. Oh god, if they end up shooting Yaz or Graham because they’re in Cyberman suits... The season started with him playing basketball... Ryan don’t you die. Hoarder? Of what?! Of people?????? Several regenerations... so was she killing the child over and over again!? Nearly there?? Nearly?????? There’s MORE?

Ok. So the Doctor is the Timeless Child... Ok... Ok. I need the episode to keep going so we can get to really get what this all means.

Also, if this is what the Master found out that caused him to destroy Gallifrey, then awww maybe he loves the Doctor and is mad about what they did to her.

Ok good, they didn’t get shot while dressed as Cybermen. “Oh. Okay.” OKAY. So that’s the Lone Cyberman out of the way. I like that the Lone Cyberman clinked when the Master picked him up. “and all this would be over. I would’ve been ok with that.” No Master. No. Don’t have a death wish PLEASE. It can’t be that bad. “I should have said ‘Someone should have cut you down to size’ and THEN zapped him.” Awww. Ok Master has the Cyberium. That’ll be fun. Back to commercial. But I need to know if my girl the Doctor is ok after that revelation! Tell me she’s ok!

I hate the stupid previews that BBC America plays. I thought the show as back. You’d think after years I’d stop falling for it, but we got through half the episode before the first preview.

“I cannot bear that.” Master, shut up. Ok, so it wasn’t because he loved the Doctor. I knew it wouldn’t be, but a girl can dream. He destroyed Gallifrey because of the insult of having part of the Doctor in him. OH SHE REALLY PUSHED HIM. I blinked and I missed it and then he was on the ground. Brandon?? It’s all erased... What the hell is the Division? OOOOOOOHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO. CYBERMEN TIME LORDS. THIS IS WORSE THAN THE DALEK SILENCE. OH BUT I DO LOVE THE DESIGN. He blew a kiss. Kisses. Just like she sent O.

I mean. The Master back in the 1996 movie wanted to know the Doctor’s secrets, and found he was half-human. Maybe that was just a sort of fake-out that was planted to keep others from discovering that she’s the Timeless Child.

OH god I don’t want the fam to get killed on Gallifrey... Yaz no why did you have to go first? Stop being reckless. “This is Gallifrey.” She said the thing. RUTHHHHHHH. My girl. Something “He” said, but the “He” is not the Master? Jack? “Oh! I’m talking to myself again!” I love the Doctor. Awwww all those flashbacks. Oh so “he” was the Lone Cyberman. Ugh. I was hoping for my baby Jack. Is there a TARDIS they can steal to get everyone off the planet please?? Also, oh god the Gallifreyans will be super dead this time around. Which will suck. Oh god the Master wants them to do it... it’s a trap... A TARDIS TO STEAL! YAY! Doctor, stop having a death wish. You always have a death wish. Stop it. Neither you nor the Master are allowed to have death wishes. Yaz don’t you dare volunteer to do it instead... I can see it in your eyes. OOOH Ryan. “I am so much more than you.” Why does that give me deja vu? “You’ll become Death.” Doctor of Death. Wasn’t that a thing before? Oh, Ko Sharmus. Ok at least it’s not Yaz. So he sent the Cyberium! And look at all the people who thought it was Jack or Ruth or something. Overthinking it. Run, Doctor. Just like you tell everyone else to. TARDISes are organic too though... so are they all destroyed? And is the Master dead for good now? I hope not. I love the Master. She ran away from Gallifrey and never stopped. Again.

Ok wait. The title is Timeless Children. Plural. We’re still only talking about the singular Child. Oh god no more Doctor Who until Christmas.

Ha it’s a house! That’s so cute! The Chameleon Circuit’s working! Will they live in their TARDIS? I mean, you got a house right there. You can probably ask it to change the inside to look like a house too. Will the Doctor still just run away and not reunite with her Fam? Just leave them behind? “Good Chameleon Circuit” Wow two working TARDISes. AWWWW LOOK AT OUR TARDIS. I love her. “Don’t get jealous.” Sweet. AGAIN? THE JUDOON!?!?!?

Revolution of the Daleks???

Well that was a cliffhanger. Great.

I haven’t rewatched Matt Smith’s era in a while, is that supposed to be River’s prison?

Anyway. I think I’m satisfied. I wish the Master got out of that in the end, if only because I love the Master. He needed to be stopped of course. But still. Give me more Master. Especially Dhawan!Master.

It’s the Master. They’ll be back eventually. Hopefully still Dhawan.

Ruth Doctor. My girl. Glad to see her come back. Poor Doctor, she has so much to deal with now... It does bring up a bunch of questions. Like how she got more regenerations in the Time of the Doctor... I assume she’s able to just regenerate forever... so why would Gallifrey make a big show of giving her 12 more... I guess because they were like “Hey so, if we don’t come down there and look like we’re listening to Clara and helping the Doctor, he’s gonna find out about his past, so let’s just send a bit of regeneration energy at him to make this specific regeneration extra big and convince him he was given 12 more.... then we can just rinse and repeat again later.”

Also, the Doctor was a black girl first. If only it was still Black History Month. Oh well.

So Ruth’s version of the Doctor reached her 12 regenerations at some point, had her memory erased... and reverted back to a child... but why did they not do that to Eleven? Did they just want to see what the Doctor would do if they knew they were living longer than initially intended this time around? How many cycles have there been? I hope Ruth’s set of 12 was the first one but I doubt it...

At least the Valeyard, the Watcher, and the Curator make a lot more sense now. They can fall just about anywhere now and not mess with the 12 regenerations thing since that does not matter at all anymore for the Doctor.

And I can’t remember if we all freaked out about this back then, but I’ve been thinking about this recently, did we all freak out when we saw the Curator because of the number of regenerations? Because, by the time we watched the 50th Anniversary we were all freaking out and counting regenerations and wondering if the Meta-Crisis counted towards that number, and then wondering if Capaldi is the last Doctor or if it ends up that Smith is actually #13 then how does Capaldi happen? We were wondering all of that, so what did we make of the Curator? I honestly can’t remember. I feel like for the entire month after the 50th we were all just so blinded from the appearance of Tom Baker to wonder where the Curator falls in the 12 regenerations thing. And then by the time we started actually wondering where he fits in, Christmas happened and Eleven got more regenerations and we were like “Oh ok well then I guess the Curator’s at the end of those regenerations.”

But I LIKE the idea that the Curator is even further along than we thought, and that now that Gallifrey is truly gone (which sucks) and can’t enforce the rules of sets of 12 regenerations, the Doctor is just going to keep going on and on forever and ever and eventually starts just picking faces again.

Also, how old is the Doctor? We thought the 4 billion years in the confession dial was bad, but like, maybe it wasnt?

And what about that theory that all the Gallifreyans are the Doctor just at different points in their life, going back in time but living all the lives simultaneously... nah that’s too much.

Anyway. I was sure that this season would lead to us finding out that humans are the ancestors of Gallifreyans, still kinda hoping for that. I’m really clinging to this human thing. First I thought the Doctor was the Hybrid because he’s half human, now I thought we’d get the revelation that Time Lords evolved from humans.

Wait. There’s still one BIG question. If the Doctor isn’t from Gallifrey, then WHAT THE HELL IS SHE!??!?!

#hope watches doctor who #doctor who #dw spoilers #doctor who spoilers #ignore me if you want

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thedyingtimelady · 5 years ago

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{An Original Character Introduction}

The dying Timelady -Part One

The dying Timelady named Catherin White, who got her earthly name from her Grandmother, who was fascinated from the small Planet, is a Timelady from the Planet Gallifrey.

Her Grandmother always told her from Earth as Goodnight stories, what keep stucked in her Head. This is when Catherin interested of this Planet started and why she wanted to travel to it one day.

Catherin knows the Doctor since childhood, but their wasnt very close at the start. They started to speak more, when both got to the Academy, where they meet the Master. She becomes very good friends with the Master. While on the Academy, Catherin always dreamed about Earth and told her two friends about it every single day. Maybe thats why the Doctor had fled with his granddaughter to Earth in the first Place?

Catherin has long blond hair, that sometimes shining a bit golden in the sunlight. Her green eyes remind people of a forest. Deep green eyes, where peace is living. She wears glasses and she cant really see without them. She is a friendly, bit pessimistic, kind and bubbly Person. She fights against a deep anger Issue, what was caused by her biggest Problem she has to face.

She only has one heart.

For a Timelady, its like when a Human was born with a heartfailure. And because Timelords have different body temperature and different immune system, her single heart and her body were too weak to stay intact for most of the time.

Every Timelord/lady has a different amount of regeneration energy. Some have more of it, other less. When Catherin get hurt really badly or her body became too weak to stay alive (high fever, heartattacks ect.) and kills itself, she start to regenerate. But other then the Doctor or the Master, her appearance stays the same, because she is even too weak to change. The amount of energy stays small, but it can happend that she regenerate multiple times in a very short time, because her body cant really rest after a regeneration. (Seeing how the Doctor acting after one of his regenerations.) For example: When the Doctor regenerate once, the amount of energy fits for the dying Timelady for three or four of her regenerations.

The dying Timelady has her own TARDIS, but she didnt really use it. For the most of the time, she travels with the Doctor. When she leaves one of the Incarnations of her beloved Husband, she simply jumps throught time and space, even without an vortexmanipulator. Why she can do that, isnt really explained. It could be the spare regeneration energy, that makes her jump to time and space. Others say that: „The Univers gave her something in exchange for her everlasting pain“ But the Truth will never be revealed.

Catherin loves the Doctor for a long time. They spend a lot of time together. When Catherin knew, he would marry someoneelse, she told him, how she feels about him. He accepted her feeling, but still married the women, who his parents picked for him.

After the marriage, Catherin never saw the Doctor again. The Years goes by and as Susan was born, he suddenly came to her and talked with her again. He told her, that she should care for Susan, because his Wife and his Daughter havent any time for her.

Catherin was happy and accepted. Susan was her light. The only connection to the Doctor she would ever has.

But then something terrible happend.

How and What really happend, will be a secret between Susan and Catherin. An Accident forced Catherin to regenerate for the first time and as the Doctor appeared to pick up Susan, he saw that Catherin changed from the old lady she was, to a younger women, but she looked the same again, when they went to the Academy. That was impossible for a Timelady.

This was the time, where Catherin told the Doctor, that she was sick. That she only has one Heart. That her body will kill her again and again and that the Pain will never really stop. That her appearce will never change. That she will stay the same until her life is over. After this encounter, the relationship of them has changed.

A simple Choice will define their Future.

Her Story has two Paths. One is the origin story and the other an „All Human“ Story.

The „All Human“ Story is a bit more friendly and hopeful Path.

After the Doctor (The Origin/First) decided to run away with Susan from gallifrey, they take Catherin with them. The Doctor shares his strong feelings with the dying Timelady and all three are trying to find a way to help Catherin out of her pain.

After an attack from the Daleks, Catherin is going to die for real and the Doctor didnt know what do to.

The Master appears and rescuit his old friend, putting Catherin in a coma. ( In this Path, he is more friendly and wants to help, but only because he is Catherins friend. He still see the Doctor as an Rival/Enemy)

Both Timelords thinking about a way to help her, when the Master got an Idea.

Timelords can turn into humans, their body can change completely and there memories getting erase.

As long the Master search for a way to help his friend, the Doctor will be living as a Human on Earth with Catherin together.

Eachtime, when Catherin is going to regenerate again, the Master will put her in a coma and the Doctor turns back into a timelord will all his memories. Until the Doctor regenerate again, he will continue travelling, meeting his companions and gain more experience.

Each Renegeration of the Doctor has their own Lovestory with the dying Timelady. A peaceful and beautiful life, with less tragic and less drama as his normal life has for him.

The Origin Path is bit more tragic, it has his similarity with the Original Series of Doctor Who.

The Doctor ran away with Susan, but left Catherin behind. He couldnt handle the information, what he just got from her. He couldnt handle anything right now.

There first encounter take place between the Aztecs and the Sensorites. Catherin finds the Doctor through one of her jumps and lands into the TARDIS. After confusion and happiness on sight of Susan, Catherin talks to the Doctor, trying to find out, why he left. She saw, that he start travelling with Humans and she realize, that he changed… in a good way.

Catherin stays for some time but decide to leave again. The Doctor told her, that he has feelings for her, but he just cant being together with her now. Time will tell.

She understands, kissed the Doctor Goodbye and her Story started. She will travel a lot throught the Doctors Timeline and meet all his other Incarnations and the Doctor will slowly falling in love with her more and more. She has an happy life with him.

But then the War happend. With no Explanations, the War Doctor blocked his Timeline, since the War had started, so she couldnt meet him or the other incarnations, who will exist after him.

Catherin tried to jump throught the barrier, but it wasnt possible for her.

Because of that tragic, she hides from the Doctor, living alone for over 100 of Years and wasnt ever seen again. Only the Master knows where he can find the dying Timelady. He finds out, that both have a special bond and they are infact Soulmates. The relationship between them didnt change much, and they have trouble to being together, because the Master still want destroy the Doctor.

But something is for sure: When Catherin should ever need help, he will be there, because she is important for him, like he is important for her.

After Gallifrey was saved and the Doctor regenerated to his 12th Incarnation, he realize, that Catherin didnt showed up for a long time. The 12th Doctor suddenly rememeber that this barriere still exist in her timeline, so she couldnt meet him after the War.

The Doctor took the dangerous path and broke the Barrier to meet his beloved lady again.

After both reunited, he decide, that both should marry and making a soulbond, so nothing in all Time and Space could ever rip them apart again.

So it was offical: The dying Timelady became the Doctors Wife.

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specter-soltare · 10 months ago

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Okay !!! So !!! So many things from my source don’t make any sense scientifically, but I’ll go ahead and mention some of my favorites, some from canon and some not so much from canon.

One time, while with The Doctor’s eleventh incarnation me, him, amy, and rory ended up almost dying (in a dream world ? sorry its a lil wonky) from a cold star!! a star that was burning !! but was freezing ??? which literally makes zero sense, but ive learned not to question too much from source because,,, eh,,, things can be pretty weird

And then of course there was the time with Ten and Rose where we were on a planet that was literally Right Next to a black hole. but it wasnt being sucked in. there was this really amazing view of the thing from where we were.

and then some that im pretty sure are canon-divergent (im not sure actually ive not seen classic who or some of the later seasons of new who) would have to be this planet that the doctor took me to. im not sure on the name, but it was for my birthday. the first birthday i had after we had been reunited in Berlin, he took me to this planet that had two suns, like Gallifrey did. The sky made me feel so close to home. I was (and still am sometimes) always terribly homesick. and i just remember being entirely in awe of seeing a sky so similar to the one back home.

as well as, of course, seeing the untempered schism when i was young. its something i think about often.

I want to talk about space. Space travelers, what's your favorite thing about space travel? What's the weirdest thing you've seen out there in the nothingness in-between worlds?

#this was in my drafts #so why not post it #bun regenerates #regeneration: wanderer

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kits-ships · 1 year ago

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electric and dragon for the pokemon selfship game? :0c with the doctor, ofc

hehe thank u!! <3

[Electric]: When did you realize that you were in love with your f/o? When did they realize that they were in love with you?

olive could tell the doctor was different the first time they met. it wasn't love yet, but something about the way he spoke and played with celeste made her perk up a bit..... she was usually extremely fearful of men!!! but once, after olive and the doctor spent a long time talking about alien plant life and how it behaves different from plant life on earth, sarah jane came up to her afterwards and was like "wow u guys talk a lot, huh! i think he might be playing favorites between the three of us! -hint hint-" and olives autistic ass went "oh, yeah i guess so!! hes just really nice and i like talking to him a lot!" then, after sarah walked away olive, stood there, trying to figure out what she meant until olive went........................ oh shit

it took the doctor longer to realize. it wasnt that he didnt like olive or anything, he's just really used to having so many companions around and them all being buddies!! hangin out and exploring!! not kissing!!! slowly, however, he starts to notice just how gentle olive is. she does her best to be open and understanding, doesn't immediately jump to violence like a lot of humans do, and she also loves listening to him infodump!! i mean, what more could u want in a woman?? the realization probably hit him just as he dropped off olive and sarah jane and spent his entire time on gallifrey like 'shitshitshitshitshit'

[Dragon]: Does your f/o have a kryptonite? Does your s/i know about it? What about vice versa?

i know i wrote these questions, but this one was interesting to think about!! there's a lot of things that can kill or harm a timelord- especially if you attack them before the regeneration cycle begins. certain poisons, drowning, and aspirin will also kill them. i think the funniest answer, however, would be the fact that time lords have a cluster of v sensitive nerves in their shoulder that, if you hit it, they can be dazed, stunned, or even faint. olive does in fact know about this, mostly to use against the master in case he comes after her.

olive is just a lil human and doesnt really have a kryptonite, but she does have a panic disorder, so i guess that would kinda count!! that would be a dick move though dont be mean to her :(

#kit's questions!#d; youre a book thats not quite finished but ill watch you fill the page #chooqueuetrain

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