#WHAT queerbaiting???
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every time someone calls Night at the Museum, of all things, queerbaiting, I age ten years
#besties do you know what queerbaiting is. do you. do you.#they never tried to market their silly little museum movies as queer#source: i was there i remember#this was a kid's movie whose last installment came out in theatres the DAY of the korrasami handhold#and it itself had a very pointed handhold#but jesus christ it was not queerbaiting it's a franchise from before queerbaiting being popular#2/3 movies came out before queerness was seen as profitable#WHAT queerbaiting???#god the zero reading comprehension and awareness of queer history on this site i s2g#Lizzie's sharing her thoughts
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Disney: you can make your movie R-rated but their relationship can’t be explicitly gay
Ryan: oh don’t worry this is a totally platonic road trip buddy comedy
The movie: The poster says, “best friends come together”, there’s a meet cute ugly at a bar and Logan immediately assumes Wade is there to hook up with him (so does the bartender), Wade calls him honey badger, and angel baby, their road trip song is a rock ballad about being lonely and wanting to meet someone, the second act has the classic romcom miscommunication/fight, they’re having a heated fight to one of the most iconic love song duets ever, Wade says, “the Honda Odyssey fucks hard too bad you don’t” and Logan says, “oh we’re just getting started”, after that there’s a shot where car they're in is rocking back and forth for hours and then it cuts to them asleep the next morning, there’s a line about Wade having Logan’s dick in his mouth (spoken by Ryan’s daughter), there’s a scene where they’re looking at each other longingly through a window because they think Wade is about to die (even though Logan hated him yesterday), Wade is very clearly staring at Logan’s abs after his shirt explodes then makes him put on a shirt after he sees other people also looking, they save each others lives by holding hands to a Madonna song about blowjobs, Logan starts walking away until Wade calls after him and he stops like he’s about to turn around and run back and kiss him but the camera cuts off before he does, Wade introduces Logan to Al like a nervous teenager introducing his girlfriend to his mom, and the last shot is their masks sitting next to each other in their ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT
Disney: ok we have notes
Ryan: no.
The movie: *makes $1,000,000,000*
#deadpool and wolverine#deadpool & wolverine#poolverine#Deadpool and Wolverine spoilers#deadpool#wolverine#istg if one more person says this movie was queerbaiting I’m going to explode#Ryan knew exactly what he was doing#IT WAS A CLEAR TEXT#500#1k#5k#stuff I wrote
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im annoyed and a little pedantic so can i just say as a blanket statement
queerbaiting is when the promotion for a FICTIONAL STORY intentionally hints towards two characters having a romantic relationship, without any intention to follow through in the show, in order to get queer people watching without discouraging the homophobic enjoyers of the show
queerbaiting is NOT:
a celebrity who you think is queer because theyre gnc or they have a 'vibe'. that is a real person and they cannot queerbait
two friends of the same gender pretending to flirt with each other for fun. those are real people and they cannot queerbait
a show with two characters of the same gender who are canonically friends that YOU PERSONALLY think would be better in a relationship. that's not bating, that's shipping, and subject to opinion
there are more but those are the main examples of people misunderstanding what queerbaiting is and being mad at something that isn't actually a problem
#the general rule if youre unsure is to ask yourself 'is that a real person i think is hinting that they are queer' and if the answer is yes#then that cannot be queerbaiting because thats a human person#apparently this is not a known fact anymore but even celebrities are human and have human emotions and human experiences#so sometimes their experiences appear to match yours and if your experience stems from your queer identity then often you can assume that#the celebrity in question is also queer#you may be right but you're probably wrong because you do not know that celebrity and have no way of knowing if they do not explicitly say#also its none of your business#anyway im annoyed at how many people dont know what queerbaiting is anymore#no jimmy solidarity and joel smallishbeans are not queerbaiting because they are FRIENDS and they are allowed to interact with each other#however they like because they are FRIENDS and they are not even remotely trying to hint that they themselves are queer or something#queerbaiting#queer#lgbtq#wren wrambles
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does anyone realize how crazy it is to have the actor of a mostly headcanoned queer ship say the fans were never crazy and they were right all along after 10+ years of everyone just absolutely going nuts over the said queerbaited ship
#supernatural#dean winchester#spn#destiel#castiel#deancas#misha collins#im 20 i have been Experiencing supernatural and johnlock since i was 12 and merthur since wayy before that i have fought Wars#this is crazy#i love u hannibal i love u 911 (if u make eddie gay)#for the love of god by 'mostly headcanoned' i dont mean that it was never intentional#i am aware that they put the subtext in on purpose#they knew what they were doing#but my focus here is on the actor actually saying it because like#if its not mostly headcanoned then y was the entire cast denying it for years AND YEARS#like do yall not remember what jared and jenesn used to say#there have been many many many instances where the cast has made us feel crazy/stupid for saying anything abt destiel#im just saying TO ME its crazy that actors and creators talk so openly about these things now !!! again i was raised on merlin and sherlock#ok also im confused on the queerbaiting part#everyones saying its queer coding and not queer baiting but cant they be true at the same time ?#im not being dumb on purpose i swear im just confused#like yes dean is very much bi coded and their relationship is queer coded but if the creators deny everything#and we only get a last minute confession after 11 years#that doesnt count as queer baiting ?#someone smart explain this to me 🙏
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breaking the sign in two by how hard im tapping it
#im putting the word queerbait in a very tall box on a very tall shelf and none of you get it back until you actually learn the definition#sjonnies edits#queerbait#queer media#queer#queer issues#there are real queerbaits! a lot of them! but i am SO sick and tired of everything that's not explicitly stated be called queerbait#or when the focus in an action movie is not the full romance#would the hero and the girl have kissed in a straight action movie? sure. but even now more often than not that doesn't happen or the focus#is different entirely#the world doesn't change overnight. but you know what helps changing it? watching the media that's implying it! NORMALISING THAT MEDIA!#showing the studios that it isn't popularity suicide. encouraging actors to diversify and give them the respect they need without turning#every conversation an actor playing a queer character into what their sexuality is!#venom#deadpool and wolverine#loki#911#<- which. btw. fucking INSANE thing to say#also queer characters CANNOT be used for queerbait#QUEER CHARACTERS CANNOT BE USED FOR QUEERBAIT#they can be buried! but they CANNOT be used for queerbait because they. are. queer.
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okay I don't even go to this fandom but I was watching a video on supegirl queerbaiting and am I actually supposed to believe that the writers and directors and showrunners are depicting a platonic relationship here
what the actual fuck
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer 3x14 Bad Girls
#buffy the vampire slayer#btvs#btvsedit#wlwedit#wlwsource#tvedit#dailyflicks#gif*#buffy*#been a while since I've experienced queerbait like this honestly lmao what kind of explanation do you even give to this...#this whole ep is so? should've ended with them kissing but anyway
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Loki just instantly doing what mobius tells him to is driving me fucking insane.
Mobius says ‘gently’ and Loki just moves the guy out of the way. No violence at all.
Mobius says ‘go ahead’ and Loki bashes these guys into a wall. Much violence.
She’s finally living up to her true title, no not the god of mischief, Mobius’ little pet.
#this is so insane of them#also loki doing the exact opposite of what sylvie tells them to do#?????#i just love being queerbaited by disney#lokius#loki#mobius#loki series#loki season 2#loki and mobius
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what if i ended it all right now.
#THEY KNOW WHAT THEYRE DOING#THEY KNEW WE WOULD EAT THIS UP FR ‼️#they saw how much of a reaction we had to the homoerotic chin grab#so they decided to feed us another sexually charged snippet#as a little treat#it’s not queerbaiting but that doesn’t mean i cant still get mad that they won’t end up together in this movie#wdym the mario movie isn’t just about these two i refuse to believe it.#i love how twinkified luigi is in this movie like he’s so girlypop and for what 😭#luigi#bowser#bowuigi#super mario bros#smb#super mario bros movie#mario movie#mario movie trailer#GAY#GAY PEOPLE REAL
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Today has been a wild day indeed.
#911#911 season 7#911 speculation#911 abc#911 fox#911 spoilers#911 fandom#911 show#911 s7#eddie diaz#edmundo eddie diaz#evan buckley#evan buck buckley#buddie#jennifer love hewitt#ryan guzman#genuinely can’t tell if there’s been queerbaiting going on or not???#like????#literally all of the press from 7x04 to 7x06 was teasing the possibility of buddie#and now we’re getting “its not gonna happen” and “eddie is straight” like excuse me??? what??#don’t even get me started on ryan saying that eddie loves marisol!!!
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something about the new popular shows seems awfully familiar to me hmmmm.....
#it's the beginning of a new era#an era without mass queerbaiting#also the way david tennant transcends time and is now a vital member of both trios#good omens#what we do in the shadows#our flag means death#supernatural#doctor who#sherlock#superwholock#also this is not hate i am/have been in the fandoms for all 6 shows and i have very fond memories of all of them
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✨ superheaven ✨
#its better because its not queerbait but its worse because what the actual fuck am i supposed to do now#good omens spoilers#good omens 2#good omens#spoilers#spn#supernatural#meme#ineffable husbands#aziraphale#crowley#content#mygocontent#david tennant#michael sheen#me.
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actually there's a huge difference between queerbaiting/"Hey guys look how gay these two are haha they're definitely gonna end up together, give us views uwu oh- never mind oops they're going to superhell" and "Hey it's 2004-2012 and there's no way we can get away with having our protags/main couple be two gay men but we really want to show these two are soulmates so we'll do it through subtext and underlying messages and by literally telling you over and over again their relationship is the most stable and important in the entire show, and the ending will imply they lived and died together", and it's insane that some of yall don't see how these two are not the same fucking thing.
#saw a very Shit Take about hilson earlier and im like. hm. some of yall have no idea what gay rep was like before 2016ish and it shows!#i feel like usa queer ppl have forgotten that this is actually still the norm about queer rep in most non-USA places#or are young enough/new enough in fandom that they dont know this was actually the most we'd get at the time#like if it was queerbaiting it would eventually be played as a joke Haha No Homo#but it wasnt. like. their relationship was shown to be THE most stable and important one in both their lives & the show overall#they literally destroyed their LIVES to be with each other. repeatedly.#anyway i could write an entire 10 page thesis on the matter but i have an actual exam in three hrs so. another time#house md#hilson#greg house#james wilson#gregory house#house x wilson
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NEW photos have dropped from Glinda the Good and Elphaba Thropp's engagement photoshoot. The couple is set to tie the knot, according to The Time Dragon Clock, on November 22, 2024 (via The Ozmapolitan)
#I'm sorry but what else the fuck is this supposed to look like.#wicked#gelphie#queerbait me harder pleeeaaase#I'm unreasonably proud of this post#my post
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the thing about larys strong is that i think he's been lonely his entire life, lonelier than even he realised/admitted to himself. he craves connection, someone to see him for who he is. and that's what's been guiding most of his actions throught the entire time we've known him.
when he saw alicent being unheard and unseen, he tried to form a connection with her as he saw himself in her (through manipulations of course, but his intention there when saying "i could be your ally" were sincere). but she rejected him (by refusing to see him as a man, by being horrified at his true self (the harrenhal fire), etc) and thus he grew to resent her and want to control her/humiliate her like she "humiliated him", probably thinking it was enough because of the power she gave him.
but then viserys died and alicent's power died with him.
spoilers for season 2 of house of the dragon below the cut
i think his "love" for her... changed or was put on the back of his mind after 2x04, especially after he sees the moon tea and she's in pain. when he asks her about criston, his reaction to her words is as if he is confused, as if he's recalculating what he thought of her because he's seeing her in a whole new light.
and maybe he is seeing her truly for the first time ever.
he said "you and i are the same", was always listening in on her conversations to gather information, maybe even convincing himself by doing so that she truly was like him. but, i think that, when larys says "you have not been yourself" is his way of saying "who are you? are you who i've always thought you were or someone i do not know?" and has to change his view of her, of what he convienced himself he saw in her.
maybe he sees that he's been living in a lie made of his own words.
so, when the council scene happens, he pities her and rejects her idea, because it has no ground and she's grasping at straws. (i do think he does feel sorry for rejecting her but he also doesn't have enough solid ground with aemond as regent (his position in the small council is fairly new) and slighting aemond would cost him the power he has, so he stays quiet and looks away).
however, he also manages to drive a nail to alicole's coffin but he walks away without looking back at the mess it left.
they then don't share a scene at all for the rest of the season.
from then on all his scenes are with aegon, and we see a side of larys we haven't seen before.
ageon gave him power (of course larys manipulated aegon with the Hand comment) because of his "loyalty" following blood and cheese (i still believe larys "let it happen") and made him his master of whispers. he placed larys in the small council (when alicent never did in the 6 years she acted as regent) and gave him status outside of the dungeons. he "brought him [larys] out of the shadows" in a way.
the show has made a point to tell us, since episode one of season two, that larys has been looking at aegon the same way he used to look at alicent in season one, staring him down as if he could see what he's made of, constantly analysing and calculating how to best approach him.
he made small attempts at conversations and funny lines ("that castle is more crippled than me") as the whole alicent thing is going on.
and then the battle of rook's rest happened.
with aegon barely holding on, we have a scene where larys is honest, vulnerable, sincere maybe for the first time ever (yes there's manipulation, but also genuine compassion). he sees the struggles aegon will have to face because he lived them himself.
like with alicent in the weirdwood, he tried to form a connection with aegon. but where alicent "rejected" his true self, aegon instead listened to what larys was saying, saw the truth in it and raged, which made larys feel seen and heard, beyond manipulation and twisted words, probably for the first time in his life
larys, for all his talk that love is a downfall, craves connection, the desire to not be alone in the world. he does feel love.
and whereas alicent rejected his love and was disgusted by his true self, aegon welcomed his help, invited his advice, and embraced his aid to become stronger
i think larys will be loyal to him as long as aegon allows his love and it does not fester into resentment, like his love for alicent did
#larys strong#house of the dragon#hotd#hotd spoilers#house of the dragon spoilers#i think he might have loved alicent in a way but her rejection soured his feelings and 'made them ugly'#i think the final nail in the coffin of his love for her was her horror at his actions at harenhall#because what if what he did and his confession was his way of saying to alicent 'see me love me this is who i am'#and her horror (another rejection) was what made him say 'if you cant love me i will make you fear me and loath me'#im never giving up on larycent#but i am *fascinated* by larys and his motivations#and larysgon is alive and thriving#i mean#they had the whole 'lets run away together just for a little while' canon queerbait scene
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the "i need everything gay and queer exactly spelled out for me word for word or it doesn't exist and is queerbait" crowd is going to hate venom 3
#venom 3 spoilers#venom 3#venom the last dance#like. guys. COME ON#COME ON COME ON COME ON#you cannot be serious right meow#sjonnie.text#i genuinely wholeheartedly disagree with people saying venom 3 is queerbait!#like. this movie was GAY. IT WAS GAY GAY.#you don't need a kiss. or an i love you. YOU ALREADY GOT THE I LOVE YOU FIRST OF ALL! and secondly. everything venom does? that is love.#eddie saying but i need him? COME. ON. NOW.#they don't have to say i love you. that doesn't make this movie queerbait#was the marketing a bit more queer than what we got? i will not disagree completely. but in the end it was still plenty queer!
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