#Vegan Beliefs

[gemma3536784]

Vegan

A Vegan is a person who does not eat or use animal products, such as meat, fish, eggs, cheese, milk or leather.

Even though vegans are generally healthier people it also also possible for vegans to be overweight.

Vegan Beliefs

Preventing the exploitation and cruelty to animals.

Going vegan is a great opportunity to learn more about nutrition and cooking, and improve your diet.

Getting your nutrients from plant foods.

Lower their carbon footprint

A plant-based diet requires only one third of the land needed to support their diet than what is required for a meat and dairy diet.

Vegan Population

Around 1% of the worlds population are Vegan.

Around 79 million people are Vegan World Wide.

India has the most Vegans at 9%.

Slovenia has the lest amount of Vegan at 0.5%.

America (USA) has only 3% of their population are Vegan.

Oldest Lived Vegans

Loreen Dinwiddle - 109 years old

Ellsworth Wareham - 104 years old (American Surgeon)

Mable Cluer - 103 years old (Founding Member of the Vegan Society)

Catherine Nimmo - 97 years old (Co-Founded the U.S. Vegan Society.

Overweight Vegans

Lizzo - American Rapper and Singer.

Gillian Fisher - Arts, Culture and Lifestyle Writer.

Famous Vegan Deaths

Zhanna Samsonova - Russian social media influencer on Instagram dies aged 39 years old from starvation from being vegan.

Some Vegan Celebrities

Billie Eilish - American Singer and Song-Writer

Evanna Lynch - Irish Actress and Activist

Stevie Wonder - American Singer, Song-Writer, Musician and Record Producer

Lewis Hamilton - British Racing Driver

Ricky Gervais - English Comedian, Actor, Writer, Producer, Director and Musician

Pamela Anderson - Canadian-American Actress, Model and Media Personality

Fearne Cotton - English Broadcaster and Author

Leona Lewis - British Singer, Song-Writer, Actress and Model

Natalie Portman - Israeli-born American Actress

Romesh Ranganathan - British Comedian, Presenter and Actor

Will.i.am - American Rapper, Singer, Sing-Writer, Record Producer, Entrepreneur and Actor

Bella Ramsey - English Actress

Sam Ryder - British Singer, Song-Writer, Producer, Composer and Social Media Personality

Lee Mack - English Comedian, Actor, Podcaster and Presenter

Ariana Grande - American Singer, Song-Writer and Actress.

Miley Cyrus - American Singer, Song-Writer and Actress.

[cobwebbed-crow]

There's a huge range of diverse thoughts and opinions within veganism, the same way there's a huge range of diversity of thoughts and opinions within Christianity or Buddhism or Islam or leftism. It's a philosophy and way of life. Anyone is within their rights to criticize veganism but how valuable is that criticism when it refuses to acknowledge that veganism isn't a monolith? At what point does it stop being legitimate criticism and start being straw manning?

[veganmabelpines]

Not being vegan isn't some "controversial opinion" that's literally the status quo come on.

[gunkbaby]

Waiting for the day when i see an anti-vegan claim that some animals actually want to be farmed and eaten you guys!!!!

[aloeverawrites]

“It’s discriminatory to judge me for my beliefs” gosh sorry Bryan what am I supposed to judge you on? Your mom’s chicken casserole?

[is-the-owl-video-cute]

Picture this: You like owls. You see lots of misinformation and abusive animal videos online. You decide to make a blog that tells people “hey! These videos aren’t cute!” You want to spread knowledge.

For some reason, vegans are in your inbox.

Vegans have been a plague to me for years because they want me to see farming as ideologically evil but if I can’t farm quail and mice the animals in my care will starve to death and if livestock aren’t farmed my pets will have no food and crucially due to my own dietary restrictions I will also simply die.

So we have been at odds for a very long time. Especially because I know what actual farming practices are, and the misinformation spread online by hipster weirdos who apparently believe anything they see online regardless of how absurd it clearly is honestly just as obnoxious to me as people who think any given wildlife should be kept as a pet.

[vegance]

reading a study on anti-vegan sentiment and

[imwritesometimes]

Young people broke harder for Trump & Republicans than they have since 2008. I think young people (especially on this fuckin website) really need to come to terms with the fact that they are not a Clean and Moral generation.

They are just as susceptible to American Exceptionalism indoctrination, greed, misogyny, and racism. Perhaps at all time highs since they seem to never want to push back against anything they hear on a podcast or that a beloved YouTuber tells them....

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[here-there-were-dragons]

i have to wonder what super hardcore militant vegans think should be done about obligate carnivore animals, because in all my painfully-rapidly-approaching-30-years i've literally never actually seen anyone give a clear consistent much less halfway feasible answer on that

[the-world-annealing]

Feels like 'necrovore' would be a great term for militant vegans to call meat-eaters and yet I don't think it gets used much at all, this too is an example of market failure.

[missbaphomet]

Replies won't let me type the full response so here

@thefalse first of all, there's more to meat/dairy consumption than "it tastes good". There are health issues that necessitate eating meat and animal products, and they provide vital vitamins, minerals, and proteins. Your body will specifically even give you cravings for food high in these nutrients when you're in need. Secondly humans are omnivores, our healthiest diets consist of meat AND plant. Livestock also consumes a huge percentage of food waste that humans, including vegans, can't or won't eat. This can be "ugly" food, food too close to expiration, food you can't keep overnight like baked goods. 30% of the diet of that pork chop that I had last Tuesday was food people threw away. Only 36% of food (by calorie) grown globally is eaten by livestock, 55% makes it onto the plate of a human. 9% goes to biofuels.

If you're as worried about resource scarcity as you claim maybe start trying for renewable resources??? The problem isn't "oh wow animals are so bad for the environment", the problem is "companies and corporations are doing bad things for more money and they're only getting worse." You can stop eating milk and honey all you want, but that's not doing literally anything towards what you claim to be advocating for. We can develop new ways to farm that are sustainable and renewable but we can't unfuck the environment with a simple "just don't buy meat lol". It's infinitely more complex than that.

Did you know it's illegal to harvest seeds you got from a tomato at your local Walmart and cultivate them for yourself? That is assuming the plant hasn't been rendered sterile to enforce reliance on whatever company sells the seeds. I personally think that's a bit more fucked up than having a grilled cheese every so often.

Also no one is arguing animal abuse is good, but it's pretty common knowledge that if you abuse your livestock, it reflects negatively in the product. Put simply: animals that are abused then slaughtered for meat make shitty meat. Is there some sketchy shit happening in factory farming? Abso-fucking-lutely. Many livestock animals live on the bare minimum. I absolutely think that livestock should have good lives. Obviously not every cow and pig and chicken can be raised with the same quality of life as a champion show poodle, but they absolutely deserve a nice pasture and good scratch and a warm, comfortable shelter.

You know who provides these things? Local farmers or even just hobbyists. I have several family friends that raise chickens, and we get more eggs than we could ever hope to reasonably eat as a family of four. If you don't eat the egg, toss it back to the chicken! She will happily eat her eggs because they're nutritional and make a damn fine meal. My family also has connections to a family owned cattle farm, and we split a cow up the middle every year, and did for almost 20 years before the owner got cancer and stopped selling beef to focus on his health, and it was damn good beef too. Pigs aren't prominent in my area, but I'm sure I could find one semi-locally. My DM keeps bees and my family went from basically never using honey to buying it by the pint. I think the only thing that my family buys from the store that we couldn't get anywhere else is milk and cheese because pasteurization and cheese making is a huge expensive process that isn't really reasonable to maintain for just a small family.

Ultimately the argument of "but animal abuse" boils down to factory farming, but the solution then becomes just don't buy meat and other products from factory farms.

[feastofsnakes]

I think I'm slowly becoming the vegan defender I hated in middle school. good.

[fallingsatellive]

Next time someone uses the word "speciesist" to describe the consumption of animal matter or says you can't be an anarchist if you're not vegan because "humans > animals is a hierarchy" I'm going to look them in the eye and say "Why are animals higher in the hierarchy than plants? Why are you kingdomist?" And it's not going to be ironically at all.

[vampire-named-gampire]

Six sentence sunday

Since I don't spam other people with my writing enough as it is already. Two people brought up Arrival of the birds to me this week, and it reminded me that technically, I have a sequel in the works. Then I went and wrote a bit more of the sequel. I'm hoping to finish it, but I don't make any promises. But here's a bit from Chapter 1, Baz's POV

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I place a carton of oat milk (yes, I made Snow switch over) and a jar of sugar in the centre of the table just as the kettle clicks. As the group goes around, pouring their tea, I turn towards the sink, taking a moment to compose myself. It is then that I see Snow’s car pulling up in the driveway.

Oh, thank fuck.

“Excuse me for a moment,” I say to my guests and head towards the foyer to meet Snow by the front door.

He parks and exits the car, holding two plastic bags that I know are filled to the brim with bird seed.

“Hey,” he smiles, giving me a quick peck on the lips. “Why are all those cars parked in the road?”

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On second thought, I think Simon the conservation ecologist would probably use tote bags, not plastic bags. But then again, he also drank real milk until Baz came along so... 🤷‍♂️

[unidentifiedfuckingthing]

i think ancient religions are basically right that its fine that animals die horribly in the wild but we have to kill them niceys because its our responsibility as a species closer to god. like i DO think that our ability to reason & our higher level of technology gives us a responsibility to be gentle that other animals dont have. like i think this is a perfectly solid stance & endpoint and "therefore its wrong to kill animals for any reason" or "admitting that suffering is cruel inherently means its also unjust that wild animals die" both just do not need to result from that premise in any way

[us-the-voices-and-more-voices-2]

me: oh yeah I've fell down some pretty horrible rabbit holes and basically had to deconstruct basically some weird fringe gore death cult shit I went through somehow as a 6 year old online <3

you guys: BITCH WTF DO YOU MEAN

me: anyway, it was "cannibalism and death as a commodity" is bad and that "life is one of value" and all that <3

you guys: THE ACTUAL NO NO WHAT?

me: yeah. I also engaged in some pretty bad self destructive behaviours bc autocannibalism but yeah, no bad stuff. still have really bad thoughts and feelings and I am 2 seconds away from biting a chunk of my skin off when the urges get bad but nah I'm way better now.

you guys: 0_o

me: long story short I have gotten rid of the worst shit, but the whole drooling about eating people thing never went away ! I see bloody injuries and want to eat it ! like a freak!!!!!