#Tubbo makes such tragic characters

[phatcatphergus]

No it’s so sad like he’s so little and can’t stop anyone from looting panics body but tried his best to stop them even though they can shove him aside with one hand

[dozyrogue]

Cellbit and baghera ending up at hunters, and we can assume being lied too and used by the eye guys is soooo sad

Like the last we saw of baghera was her refusing to leave after watching what she and us assumed at the time the last minutes of the eggs lives. She refused to leave without pomme and said goodbye to bolas.

Now we see her again gas mask and chainsaw in hand hunting people down and giving them a chance to rp their way out lmao. She gives them a chance to talk and if she doesn't see it worthy she kills them.

I don't know what cellbits ending to purg 1 was like but I do know what he was like on the Quesadilla island and what he did before hand. So him being in a place that basically welcomed madness with a team that did the same was great for him. But he didn't make it on the boat lost his husband and lost his kid in the same day.

Now hes out here running around with a Machete 3000 me thinks (I literally don't know what he was using to kill people :D) And he sees etoiles and forces (I use that very lightly) to kill his team member. That joining them in their rampage would do him good that their happy and free that they don't need anyone else but each other. That the eye guy is right

And they find richas and pommes base (I need to make a whole post about that CUZ OH MY GOD) They're told by bbh that the kids are ok and they lose their shit don't even listen.

Then in the end they follow the next warp stone to SINNERS and its the base that they started in they look at each other questioning the obvious implications and just sigh.

They promise each other that they would never and that the other is aaallll they have left and would rather off themselves then hurt the other. Baghera herself said she wouldn't be able to do any of this herself if she was alone. She wouldn't be able to lose herself into the madness if she didn't have cellbit. And cellbit agreed

They pain me.

And fuck that eye bastard and quit traumatizing the cubitos your scaring the girlies

[luigra]

Why the nuke ending was good and important for the story, and why it was NOT retconned: an important essay

So, I& assume that most people here have only really watched DSMP through Tommy's POV. Maybe a few other of the most popular POVs. Even more people have just... straight up never watched the actual streams and got all their info off of social media. I& get it, I& can't blame you. But because of that you all have missed out on the absolutely crucial reasoning for why the nuke ending needed to be Like That.

I& will try to sum up Jack Manifold's lore here real quick, but I& can't ever do it justice in a text post, so I& implore you all to watch at least one or two of his lore streams, preferably the one in which he exploded the hotel and his POV of the finale, those are the two best ones lore-wise, and he re-explains his motivations quite frequently.

The biggest thing with his character is that he has always been forgotten about. Treated as a side character to the "main protagonist". He was never noticed, his three deaths were completely ignored, and no matter what he would do, people would always look past him to focus on whatever the big plot was. In his own words, he tried to kill Tommy and he didn't even care.

As the result of this mistreatment, literally having everything taken away from him - his home, his friends, his lives - he tries to find the root of it all, and comes to the conclusion that Tommy is to blame for it all, because he was his friend once but is now the cause of the server fighting all the time.

All of this is to say, he is an important narrative foil to Tommy - where Tommy struggles with just wanting to move past Exile and his trauma, Jack instead clings to everything that hurt him and just wishes to be noticed. He wants his pain to be acknowledged, and in doing so he spirals further and further into self destruction. He burns down Manifoldland. He blows up the hotel.

And finally, he blows up the world.

It was his desperate cry to be seen, a natural conclusion to his mental issues that everybody just ignored. But now, they couldn't ignore him anymore. They physically COULDN'T. And THAT, is why the ending is so brilliant. Because throughout all the trials and tribulations, Jack finally gets what he always wanted. He finally gets to kill Tommy the way he wanted to kill him, and at last, nobody can ignore him, this forgotten and abandoned kid that just tries to make things right, Jack Manifold.

BUT HE ISN'T ACTUALLY HAPPY ABOUT TOMMY DYING. IN HIS LAST MINUTE, HE REALIZES THAT HE'S BEEN MISGUIDED ALL ALONG AND WITH TUBBO'S HELP HE REALIZES THAT ALL HE REALLY WANTED WAS FOR HIS FRIENDS TO ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT HIM AGAIN.

SO HE TRIES TO SAVE HIS FRIEND AND LITERALLY GOES INTO LAVA TO TRY AND REACH HIM (THE SAME LAVA THAT TOMMY THREW HIM IN AND KILLED HIM WITH)

BUT IT'S TOO LATE.

IT'S PURE FUCKING CINEMA.

IT'S THE MOST TRAGIC ENDING EVER. IT'S THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO HAVE ENDED THE SERIES, WITH AN UNDERDOG WHOM EVERYBODY IGNORED UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE, FINALLY GETTING HIS LAST SPOTLIGHT. FINALLY HAVING A SMIDGE OF HOPE THAT SOMEONE OUT THERE MIGHT CARE ABOUT HIM IF HE JUST TRIES AGAIN.

So what does that mean for the latest new stream? It means that Jack finally got his closure and got to talk to Tommy. And he learnt how to move on. He doesn't center his life around him anymore.

But he does wish for Tommy to be happy. Even if he himself can't, even if he's still stuck gambling and addicted and all alone with no one by his side, he finally moved on from Tommy. He finally planted Manishroom in the ruins of his burnt down house.

And the fact of the matter is, this has been streamed from Jack's POV. And now, this is his story. Let him have this. The fact that his actions left an impact is important.

Let us, the manifolders, have this. Please. The nuke ending was never about Tommy or Dream or whatever. It was always about Jack.

[genevawrenn]

A little post about our beloved QSMP eggs and what they taught me.

Starting off with Chayanne, our little warrior. Your strength through agony was always something to be admired, your dedication to providing to your family through delicious food is something I will always remember. You fought so hard, little leader, I'll miss you always.

Lullah, lovely musician and stealer of hearts Lullah. You are such a bright star, you formed bonds of love and won over the harshest souls instantly. You taught love for both yourself and others, you gave us a deep and intriciate character we will always think of fondly.

Everyone who has followed me for a while knows the Death Family was probably the one I spoke about the most (besides Hideduo). They were always near each other which is something I will remember fondly. They had their troubles but they always talked them out. I'll miss you most.

Ramon, oh my sweet Ramon. You were a late addition to my attention, but I'm so glad I found you, even for the short time I did. Your dedication in protecting your siblings spoke beyond what words can say about your character. I will always remember your excitement and curiosity.

Richas; chaotic, excitable, hyper, and a dear wild child. You made everyone laugh with your antics, it was never a boring time from the moment we saw your cow head to the moment you sped off. You captured so much life and projected it to those you cared about, one of us forever.

Leo <3 My darling, my dear, I never spoke about you much but I love each and every time you came on screen. Your bright and loud personality is a delight, teaching many how wonderful it is to be exactly you. I've heard her admin is a streamer, you should go follow!

Sunny, oh my goodness Sunny. Another huge persona who taught me so much about loving myself and presenting exactly as me. I hope you know how many people you have touched by being you so perfectly. I can not picture any other parent than Tubbo for you, you are adorable together.

Empanada, our time together was too short, but I will forever treasure it. You played such a clever and observant character, very intune with others emotions and able to comfort anyone in their times of trouble. You made people think and learn, an incredible gift to everyone.

Pepito, oh my goodness with you, I think Richas met their rival with sheer energy and excitement.

My little BOLAS eggo, you swept in and easily made everyone want to protect you.

You teach many whimsy, kindness, and stepping out of your comfort zone. You make so many smile 😃

Dapper and Pomme...I can not even separate you in this post. I wasn't able to catch much content surrounding you but I always appreciated how much I saw both your influence in your siblings. Dapper, you always kept your dad on his toes. Pomme, I adore your capacity to love all.

Trump, Tilin, Juana, Bobby.

Time was tragically short together, barely a breath on the long cycle of emotions this story drove us through.

I can say with certainty you will never be forgotten, your influence touched many even if you were only with us for a matter of days. 💕

I unfortunately do not have any screenshots of Chunsik, a similar sentiment to the Egg Island three, as I don't feel we have enough time together, but I'll think of you fondly. I wish you had more time to wow us, I'm not even sure if we will see you again but I wish you the best.

I am a changed person after becoming interested in this content and this server, and that's a positive thing. I only feel sorrow because I love it so deeply. You inspired me to keep creating and connecting with new people. I'll miss what we had forever, thank you for everything.

[kay-then-i-guess]

I don't know how many dsmp-ers agree with this, but from a storytelling standpoint, c!Dream is just. A bad villian. I think it's a big reason why the ending is so universally hated.

I think in the beginning, it was okay, because we were all expecting more depth to get added to his character later. I saw so many fancomics and theories and analyses that gave such good ideas for a solid character, motive, and overall, a good villian. But we never really got that payoff.

He starts off with a basic "control obsessed" trait. He opposes the L'Manbergians for a mildly valid reason, and then only gives up the fight for control over Tommy (the discs). Then, Schlatt gives him the revive book; he gets even more control crazy. It's a good setup, but it never pays off in the way we want it to. The ending is unsatisfying for many, and nobody really stops to pity Dream, even though that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to pull this "aw, what a tragic character" card, but it's ultimately unsuccessful. Why? Well...

As I said, the setup is good, but things get muddled in the middle. After Dream gets the revive book, there is not a single moment where he's protrayed in any positive light. In fact, after this point, people's view of him gets worse. He slowly becomes more and more unforgivable. The problem with this is that after a certain point, characters cannot have a redemption arc. Or, at the very least, it would be very, very difficult. Dream hits this point. Once he hits that, the ending that people are expecting for him likely ends in death, or worse. The most satisfying ending for the audience is for him to die in a dramatic fashion—kind of like what happened with Schlatt. Schlatt's a good villian with a good ending; it's a satisfying end for a villian while still making it clear that our protagonists' stories are not over. We expected something like that for Dream, and frankly, nothing else would make sense. He had become so evil that the only option was death. There was no pity.

After he escapes from prison, we were ready for this ending. Clearly, it was ramping up for some big finale. And then, he never shows up. I recognize that there were other things going on behind the scenes that led to the lack of content, but it got to such a point that I was beginning to doubt if it ever would get an ending. I started to think that the dsmp would just fade away, all because their lead villian would not show up. All that build up to a dramatic death was, well, dying off. It was taking too long.

And then, when the ending did come along, it only pushes his "evilness" more. He reveals his revive book experiments and his end plan for Tommy and Tubbo. For a moment, the fact that he was gone for so long disappeared. The tensity is back.

And then they pulled the pity card.

It felt like a cop-out. There was no build up to it, no extra scenes with him before this moment where we stop to see his stuggle. No earlier streams where we can see him in an even slightly positive light. It just doesn't happen. So, of course, when they pull the "why can't things just be simple?" we all are yanked from the illusion of the world.

There are a lot of problems with the ending, but the failure to understand Dream's character, role as a villian, and audience expectations for him definitely harm the ending more than others.

I'd love to hear if you guys agree or disagree or just have anything to add! This is just my opinion, so I'd love to hear if anyone thinks differently. I like analyzing <3

[apollos-boyfriend]

haii could you give me a summary of c!purpleds characterization ???

oughhh i always struggle w questions like these because for me it has become almost second nature but. i will try my best (≧∀≦ゞ fellow cpurpled enjoyers feel free to chime in with ur own suggestions if u so wish

purpled is selfish. this feels like a pretty obvious aspect of his character but Oh the amount of people i’ve seen get it wrong. he does not feel guilt over his selfishness. he will take and take until there’s no more left to steal, and he will blame the other party for his loss. he’s a survivalist before all else, a businessman before a person, and he’s proud of it. he’s manipulative and cunning and, honestly, a total asshole most of the time. it’s part of his charm

he’s been used. a lot. being used is kind of a key aspect of his character and his behavior. i think it’s important to note though that his experiences are never portrayed in a way where he’s meant to be pitied. his story is more focused on rage, on revenge, on a burning anger that will burn everything in its path. his story is tragic, yes, but he Refuses to let it be a tragedy (he is not consciously making this choice, which i’ll go into later)

he’s VERY prideful. he’s good at a lot of things and he knows it. i think a lot of people see his character type of smug, confident asshole and jump to the conclusion that it’s a front for him to cover up his insecurities but. i cannot stress enough. he is Genuinely Just Like That. he is almost fully incapable of self-doubt. if he ever encounters a situation where he has fucked up he will instantly find a way to shift that blame to others. he’s hot shit, he knows it, and he WILL make it everyone’s problem

something i think is really important is that, when it comes to seeing others, he sees most people at a neutral. he has very few people he strongly likes or dislikes, and is more uninterested and unconcerned with most people. he looks down on them, but not in a negative way, per se. that’s just how purpled sees people. if they can’t provide him with something, they’re unimportant to him. it’s not personal, it’s just fact. quackity is the only person purpled has a true hatred towards, as well as technically tommy, but that was more as a one-sided rivalry, and much, much lesser. it’s worth noting he did NOT hate slime, seeing him as a nuisance at best. he only attacked slime because he knew it’d be the way to hurt quackity the most, he held no real animosity towards him otherwise. ponk, hannah, jack manifold, tubbo, and technically boomer are the only people i’d really classify of being people purpled enjoys being around/sees on the same level as him

i know a lot of these points are somewhat bleak and serious, but he does have a silly side!! he likes pranks and scams. his best friend is his dog, who he regularly talks to as if he was another person. he has a flair for the dramatics and likes showing off, even if doing so is risky, and even if no one but him will see it

this is less of a character analysis but he talks like if you introduced an angry victorian orphan to youtube shorts. he has a very specific cadence of more sophisticated, verbose language mixed with modern-day slang and memes. it’s. very strange. i really can’t begin to properly describe it

there is zero self-awareness in that boy. he cannot see past his anger and spite and realize possible mistakes. 95% of what i’ve mentioned here he is completely unaware of. he can’t see his flaws, he can’t realize his wants, yet he always sees himself as on the right and on top. he is playing 4D chess completely unaware that everyone else is playing checkers, and is prone to unintentionally self-sabotaging himself due to being unable to recognize his true wants. he has 0 self-awareness of any of this. the way i write purpled is to make it Blatantly Obvious to the reader that his mindset and worldview is wrong, but make him completely blind to these points. he should not know things are wrong, but the reader should be able to pick up on it

[crimeboys]

omg tell me more abt the gravity falls au

OKAY. so. basically. this whole au came up bc i was like well obviously tommy and tubbo make the most sense as mabel and dipper... but what if i want tragic crimeboys... BC I LOVE TRAGIC CRIMEBOYS.

so i haven't figured out all the details but the basic thing is that tommy and wilbur are stan and ford while tubbo and fundy are dipper and mabel. NOW they basically . are completely different characters. and ive changed a lot of the events of tommy and wilbur's past like they aren't bio brothers and they didn't have that ten year gap before wilbur gets tossed through the portal. again the details are fuzzy, but wilbur and tommy actually come across the town together and start working with dream (who will be the bill of this au) and then exile shenanigans blah blah blah anyway basically wilbur tells tommy that the only way to keep the world safe from dream is for him to get sent to another dimension blah blah blah tommy refuses blah blah blah they have a huge fight about it blah blah blah tommy ends up Accidentally sending wilbur through the portal. cue massive guilt that makes him spend 16 years trying to reopen the portal despite the fact that he might destroy the fucking world.

but basically the story starts with fundy and tubbo coming to stay with their uncle wilbur for the summer. here's an artistic rendition.

it's kind of weird and confusing and he's very scammy and kind of a dick but he's also funny and clearly cares about them and they end up bonding blah blah blah.

also fundy finds evidence that wilbur is not his uncle/adoptive brother (phil has been taking care of fundy his entire life), rather his Father. so he has some weird daddy issues about all this that are made worse by the fact that wilbur clearly favors tubbo.

but anyway wilbur is obviously actually tommy who faked his death and has been lying to everyone for years and even sends letters to phil pretending to be wilbur so everyone thinks he's still fine and kicking. and fundy is obviously actually wilbur's kid. he got with a salmon and well these things happen. fundy was probably a few months old? maybe a year? when wilbur goes through the portal. sally is dead (eaten) and tommy cant raise a kid so he sends him to phil under the guise of being wilbur who cant handle being a father.

anyway it's barely thought through except for the really funny parts (tommy pretending to be wilbur for 16 years/fundy thinking tommy is his father) but yeah.

[sadtrashking]

HEY!! actually wrote these all out u can tell where i started going off of mostly appearance for these because i only really know a few qsmp characters help obviously not everyone but uhm. swagever (sorry for sending it to inbox it was too big to fit in the comments on that other post)

Tubbo: Groyvle (Frozen in time/Time related things. Looks like how I imagine her, I like the idea of him not being a fully evolved mon I think it oddly fits her)

Spreen: Hisuian Typhloshion!!!!! (Guy who is like darker colors and the ghost typing is such a cool like. hint towards his tragic fate of fucking dying. Plus works well with Fit and Ramon being normal types)

DanTDM: Shiny Sceptile (works mostly with my specific QSMP dragon lore but TLDR is that Tubbo and Dan are really similar genetics wise and look almost identical, but Dan's fully evolved while Tubbo hasn't really mastered it yet hence. Shiny Sceptile (which is more blue so its fitting)

Bad: Yveltal (Death vulture thing, Dark Type, God-related status, Immortal)

Jaiden: I know the obvious choice is like Chatot but. I like to think she'd be an Archeops I feel like she'd be a raptor of some kind and Archeops is like both that and a parrot it feels made for her…. SHE'D HAVE HER NORMAL COLORS THOUGH I THINK

Pac: Shiny Dusk Form Lycanrock: I like to think Q!Pac is some kind of shiba hybrid so he's GOTTA be a dog and Shiny Dusk Lycanrock is the EXACT colors

Fit: Ursaring because like. Look at it that's just him

Cellbit: Meowscarada this is another appearance based one but I REALLYYY like Meowscarada Cellbit its fun to me.

Baghera: KILOWATTRELLLLLL i dont think any of the ducks fit her and I fucking LOVEEEE kilowattrel i think it's a really fun choice for her

Roier: Midnight Lycanrock I like to think Roier is an African Wild Dog and I think it makes this guy fit him! Plus he's red and emo which is fitting i think

Foolish: Palafin! I don't wanna give him Sharpedo because i think it'd be a bit too silly, and Garchomp is for Leo, so Palafin!! Works well with me imagining him as a Sawshark anyways…

Phil: Honchkrow. IT LITERALLY LOOKS LIKE HIMMM ITS SUCH A GOOD MON FOR HIM hes not corviknight because thats my c!phil headcanon plus i feel like q!phil's less intimidating

Missa: Alolan Marowak i know next to nothing about this guy but. dude's an alolan marowak

Cucurucho: BLOOD MOON URSALUNA THIS FUCKERS SUCH A URSALUNA its a big intimidating bear that's face is mostly obscured and doesn't really display much emotion raaaagh its so fitting

Fred: Beartic because blue polar bear but GOD i love ur pangoro idea thats so fun

(Eggs)

Sunny: Cosmog because i loveeee the idea that shes gonna turn into a solgaleo its so funny to me. groyvle dad with a metal sun lion god following him around PLUS COSMOG FITS HER IN LIKE A LOVING SPARKLY THINGS WAY… made of stars

Dapper: Zweilous (I think a lot of the eggs have evolved atp) Fits bad's dark typing! Little guy!!! Little guy with no eyes!!!!

Ramon: Drampa. Mustache dragon thanggggggggg also the idea of this baby dragon being a grampa is really funny

Pomme: DIPPLINNNNNN make that girl into a hydrapple to match dapper becoming a hydreigon eventually. the hydra sisters :fire: ALSO DIPPLIN IS REALLY CUTE i dont particularly care for flapple and appletun feels too like. lazy? for pomme? idk

Richas: Craniados!!!!!! The way people draw Richas reminds me SOOOO much of a pachycephalosaur so I gave him the pachycephalosaur pokemom!!!

Chayanne: FRAXUREEEE haxorus is SUCHHH a chay pokemon to me i think its the yellow. i like to think he's the first to evolve due to being the oldest :3

Tallulah: Swablu: I've always associated the altaria line with music and Tallulah with music so!!!!!

Flippa: Goomy. u'll never fucking guess why

Leo: GABITEEEEEE its a shark dragon its MADEEEE for her honestly

Bobby: Bagon because I feel like it mirrors Jaiden's whole thing with flying in a really sad way

I FUCKING LOVE THEESE. God I love pokemon aus so much they're so fun. And sw on the just appearance ones because they work too. Pac and sunny are probably my favorites from this list

[snailsnfriends]

ctommy's character as a whole is characterized by love, hope, and grief. you cannot have one of these things without the others.

tommy's love for his friends, pets, and belongings is the first big motivation in his story. he is attached to his discs because they represent happiness, safety, and home, all things that he loves. his love for these things fills him with hope for the future, and now hope is a major part of him. when wilbur and tommy are exiled, he has hope that he'll be able to save l'manberg and wilbur by proxy, a blatant display of love. this is also where grief enters tommy's story. he is grieving the loss of his home, but remains hopeful, because he believes that he can reclaim it. tommy's feelings of grief are exacerbated by wilbur's death, which he has a front row seat to. he grieves not only his brother, but the idealized view he had of wilbur. he grieves because he loves wilbur and because he had hope that wilbur would get better, that his problems would be fixed after they got l'manberg back. all three are cogs in a machine that keep tommy moving. each of them motivates him to continue, even in the darkest of times. he lived through exile because he found hope in his escape. he lived through doomsday and didn't break down because his friends who he loved were there to support him. he lived through the disc war finale because of how much he loved others; they came to save him. he lived, he lived, he lived. in his finale, his love, hope, and grief ultimately led to his demise; he loved tubbo and had hope that tubbo would live a fulfilling life if he committed an ultimate sacrifice.

love, hope and grief is what makes tommy. they are the reason why he lives, they are the driver of his tragic death. tommy loves with his entire being, he holds hope in his entire being, grief wracks his entire being. tommy is love, hope and grief incarnate. it's why he wears his heart on his sleeve; tommy is his heart.

[chayannecraft]

Breakfast Trio as Spiderverse kids au/hc’s LETS GO:

Sunny:

- Spider name is Sun-Spider

- on top of all the normal spiders, she has the ability to control and manifest light, and by extension darkness. They often use it to be dramatic, but it works great in a fight too. It can blind or distract enemies.

- is the daughter of Mr. rich guy Tubbo, and thus funds the groups superhero-ing adventures and anything they might need. They steal his credit card or just ask really nicies

- Has the most elaborate spider-suit out of everybody, because she refuses to fight crime without looking good. It’s got a puffy dress and heels, with maybe a boa scarf. She also somewhat managed to drag the other two into being fashionable too so they’re all cute together :)

- is the best at dealing with the public, because she already does it a lot in her normal life

(The other two kids/more details under the cut)

Empanada:

- Spider name is Sugar-Spider or Sugar-Weaver

- on top of all the normal spider powers, she has the power to create anything out of condensed (pink!) energy. Prime examples of this are Gwen from Ben 10 or Atomic Eve. She often uses this to make platforms, weapons, or create anything to keep the public safe.

- However, can’t make any weapons without knowing which individual parts interact with each other to cause the weapon to function, so she just. has a bunch of books and research on different weapons. She’s somehow convinced everybody this is a phase.

- Honestly also probably uses a parasol as a weapon as well because she is also fashionable (not to the extent of glamour that Sunny has, but enough to be cute) and thinks keeping with the brand is a fun little extra thing.

- is the heart and soul of the group. Keeps them motivated and keeps their morale up!! She’s a very essential part of the group and often reminds them both why they’re saving people.

Pepito

- Spider name is (drumroll) Spider-Kid (it’s a work in progress for me ok)

- A bit more jaded than normal Pepito: is still Roier’s child, but has since given up on Roier ever actually being Pepito’s father, and avoids him as much as possible. Often stays over at Empanadas or Sunnys home instead of Pepito’s own.

- Pepito’s house has Roier and Cellbit, as well as a revolving cycle of Jaiden, Richarlyson, and others present in it at all times. This does not stop Pepito from avoiding the house and leaving Pepito’s room as an untouched Time Capsule.

- tries to focus on helping people in an emergency but will not hesitate to get involved or beat the shit out of somebody if the others need help/a distraction

- has no extra special powers like the other two, but is bonded to the venom symbiote (it was a HELLISH two to three weeks but it worked out in the end ^_^ ) (The inclusion of venom symbiote was based on Roier’s purgatory skin)(also it based it’s suit appearance off of Cellbit just so you guys know maybe I’ll upload it)

- i know I just dropped an entire load of tragic backstory, but Pepito is still very much Pepito, who helps Pepito’s friends in any way Pepito can and believes in each of them.

Extra plot details:

- takes place in Quesdilla City (Like NYC but named Quesdilla)

- I don’t know how old the breakfast trio are canonically, but here they’re like 14 to 15.

- Every character and egg is also present here, and has a connection together relating to The Federation that is pretty negative. Breakfast Trio did not know about this in an effort to keep them safe. Kind of backfired.

- adding onto that, the ordo theoritas is a group they made in order to keep each other and the eggs safe from the federation.

- The Purgatory Eye fuck is here and is one of the main villains for the Spider-Kids, you know, the type that absolutely humbles them and then they sit there like WUH OH. UM. UH OH!!!

- They kick it’s ass eventually but my god is it a whole exhausting trip.

- I know for a fact the Spider-Kids identities get publicly leaked and it causes a LOT of panic and confusion. Can’t decide if this is as The Eye is fucking it up in antagonist-ville or a bit after it gets defeated. This plotpoint is mostly for DRAMA and PAIN. They run away from their homes and to a warehouse they reestablished as their base to PANIC.

- Breakfast trio love each other so much. They went into this together they work on it together, they fight together. They know each others strengths and weaknesses and cover according but they are most of all filled with love for each other. They would do anything for the other. Each of their motivations are a weave of string tied to their souls and tied to each other.

[mochiwrites]

“The plan has changed. I’ve hired someone to do what you couldn’t do the first time.”

NONONONONONONONONO GRIAN PLEASE GRIAN NO GRIAN PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GRIAN NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONNONONONONONO

THAT TEASER YOU POSTED SOME TIME AGO MAKES THIS SO MUCH WORSE NONONONONONONONONONONONO

He knows what he has to do, what he’s meant to do. It’s the role he’s been cast to play. 

Secret life parallels oh lordy lord. i am SO UNWELL. no. NOOOOOOO. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i legitimately dont have any words. the only way i can properly express how im feeling right now is just AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

He’s not naive and hopeful like Grian is, or as kind as Mumbo can be. He’s selfish and cruel, and his loyalty is fickle. 

this is legitimately one of my favorite parts of scar's character actually. i don't have the brain power to properly analyze this, but something about how honest he is about this is so. augh. this trait is what's ultimately going to be his demise (at least, he thinks so). he'll lose grian and mumbo (possibly through death) because he chooses tubbo over mumbo and grian. he knows and he's not proud of it but it's vital to his survival anyways so he does nothing to fight it.

i dont think i make sense at all and theres a great possibility ive mischaracterized him entirely (it wouldnt be the first time, sadly) but i love it regardless. i love how flawed he is. how flawed they all are. i love how tragic their stories are. grian with his unwavering hope and optimism that gets constantly tested (and possibly crushed at some point) and scar with his insistence to not get close that eventually stabs him in the back and mumbo with his guarded but oh so big heart that he's tentatively given out only to get hurt in some way. please correct me if any of this is wrong, btw, id rather be corrected than live in ignorance of the truth

No amount of rope can pull him out. It’ll snap apart under the weight of his actions, so why try? There’s no real point in it. 

this is why you need a grian, scar. sigh.

He needs to stop being Scar and start being the Grim Reaper. He sucks in a breath, throwing Scar away.

oh this is fantastic because scar cares so deeply for them and would do just about anything to protect them, because as much as he tries not to, scar cares and loves. but that's exactly the problem because he cares for and loves tubbo so much he'd do just about anything to protect him, including sacrificing grian and mumbo. but scar couldn't possibly do that when he cares for them so much. so he weaponizes the grim reaper, who doesn't care for anyone or anything besides getting the job done.

im genuinely just rambling here there's zero coherence to be found in any of this

“We figured we should take advantage of the peace while we can,"

wow youre really just pulling out all the stops to make this hurt as much as possible arent you

But even then… surely it wouldn’t take this long to heal. 

this is SOOOOO CONCERNING are you KIDDING ME???? MUMBO PLEASEEEEEEEEE YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME MAN😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

“Maybe we can come back tomorrow earlier.” 

i have you say you are incredible at setting the mood. having an idea of what's about to happen as a third party, watching it all unfold. grian and mumbo being right there and nearly getting to the truth, but not quite getting it because they trust scar. BECAUSE THEY TRUST SCAR!! grum and jrum being there adding to the innocence of it all and amplifying how unsettling scar's actions are. "maybe we can come back tomorrow" when there's not going to BE a tomorrow for them (assuming scar succeeds). it's so tense. it's so anxiety-inducing. it's such an intense sense of foreboding and it has my heart rate genuinely going up. infinite props to you.

He aims for Mumbo’s shoulder.

might be overthinking this but i hate that this implies the possibility that scar informed this assassin with ways to make the killing easier

He grits his teeth as he pulls another glyph from his pocket. He slams it between his hands, vines wrapping up around his arms.

GRIAN'S GLYPHS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO!! IT'S EVEN COOLER THAN ID IMAGINED HEHE

“Did you get hit at all?” He does a quick scan of the changeling for any injuries.

you're really making this hurt

“Dad!” the two boys cry, the word not registering to any of them in the moment. 

AAAAAAAAAA YOURE GONNA MAKE ME CRY STOP IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Blood splatters on the ground in thick drops, spilling in the grooves of the cobble path. 

i havent read ahead and i swear to god if this is grian sacrificing himself for mumbo and he turns around and sees grian's body on the pavement and screams "GRIAN!" and that's what the teaser was and that's how it ends my brain is going to be filled with unspeakable screaming until it gets confirmation that he's okay.

“GRIAN!”

I WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE RIGHT. I WASNT SUPPOSED TO HAVE GUESSED CORRECTLY. I WASNT. THAT WASNT. IM. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

IM. I HAVE NO WORDS. I HAVEN'T A SINGLE COHERENT SENTENCE. I AM JUST. WOW. IM. WHAT. NO. NO?????? NO. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

HFGJFHKFHGJFK WELL. HI LMAO

reading through all of this with a big grin because excitement and Also knowing what happens next >:3c I'd apologize about the teaser thing but I am Not sorry WHEEZE

but in regards to the scar stuff, you're 100% right, yeah, along with grian and mumbo. they're all flawed characters just trying to do the right thing with the cards they've been dealt. their best qualities are Easily their greatest weaknesses. and none of them realize it but y'know. that's what being human is all about! :D

aND THE GRIM REAPER YEAHHHH. I talk about it all the time but I genuinely love scar being the grim reaper. weaponizing it in this chapter. he's such an interesting character to both study and write

but !!!! very glad to see that the first bomb of three has landed appropriately! :D

[phatcatphergus]

Chay is precious but tragic continuing to make cookies for Tubbo even though he's not sure he's coming back and not sure if he even wants to come back. Phil has no idea how depressed Tubbo was though and is still assuming it was all about create (and meta reasons). I like that Chay is bringing up the idea that he might not want to come back though. I'm not sure I agree considering Creation's messages but I think it's important to consider especially since he may still struggle when he gets back. All the eggs are so good at playing their roles <3

The eggs admins are so good man. Chay standing over his body and not wanting to move, sunny making a cake bc pa is “with ma lenay” because no one really explained death to her. They’re so tragic and play little kids of different ages going through grief so well. Chay being older and understanding that maybe Tubbo won’t want to come back because of the way he lived his life is so heart breaking when no one else even seems to realize how their actions may contribute to that.

I almost hope that when qtubbo does come back it’s talked about how the way that everyone treated his death is the exact reason he was willing to die. It’s such an integral part of his character at this point and to brush over it would be a disservice. For him to come back and really only interact with the eggs in a positive way would be really interesting I think.

[most-tragic-character-tournament]

Ok cTubbo's still losing it's time for me to whip out the propaganda

I've been mentally ill over this cube man for a year I'm not letting him lose without a fight

So in this I'm going to list all the tragic events in his life in order (although DISCLAIMER I might forget some stuff or get stuff wrong fellow dsmp fans please don't @ me)

He was a child soldier. Canon ages of basically all the characters are dubious at best, but if we go by cc!Tubbo's age he was only 16 at the time of the L'manburg Revolution. That's only one of the THREE wars he fought in but we're going in order and more shit happened in between the L'manburg revolution and the next war he fought in (Manberg v Pogtopia) so PUT A PIN IN THIS

He DIED in the aforementioned L'manburg Revolution. For the unacquainted, characters in the DSMP get 3 "canon" deaths, so you get to die canonically 3 times before dying For Real, so he came back after, but he still DIED, which hurts!

He had to watch his best friend (cTommy) and basically big brother figure (cWilbur) get exiled from the nation THEY HELPED BUILD.

He was forced to be a spy

The aforementioned being a spy...ness lead to him getting EXECUTED. Mind you going by cc!Tubbo's age he STILL was only 16 or 17!

Did I mention the fireworks and the box?!? Ohhh boy. The fireworks and the box. This was his canon event. You know when people say "x never truly left y"? CTubbo never truly left The Box. This is the ROOT of soooo much trauma. He was trapped in a tkiny box and shot to death. First off, he was SHOT TO DEATH WITH FIREWORKS. That is one of the most painful ways to go. You're getting shot to death AND burned to death at the same time. This left him with permanent scarring. Second, he was killed at a festival that HE DECORATED HIMSELF. I could go on and on about why the red festival and Tubbo's execution are tragic as hell but I'll stop here cus I have more shit to cover.

*takes pin out of thd first point* He fought in a war AGAIN

He was appointed president of a country at 17 (again, going by cc!Tubbo's age, also don't quote me on that number he might've still been 16, I don't remember. The point is he was YOUNG. Like, that's a high schooler!(in the US anyway))

His basically older brother figure killed himself immediately after he got appointed president

He was manipulated into exiling his best friend not long after becoming president

He was led to believe said best friend committed SUICIDE while he was in exile (cTommy was alive, but cTubbo thought he was dead for a pretty long while)

Doomsday. Just. All of Doomsday. Finally giving up on L'manburg, the country he'd loved and fought tooth and nail for, and still they lost. He lost. Reconciling with Tomny, his best friend, only not really, because their friendship has been so damaged. Just- EVERYTHING.

Also Doomsday was technically a war so that's the 3rd war he fought in

He tried to sacrifice himself for his best friend.

He INVENTED NUKES. He's literally DSMP Oppenheimer to an extent. He invented nukes because he's had to fight so hard to keep the people and things he loves safe that he went all the way to the extreme of INVENTING NUKES to keep his family safe.

SAID NUKES ENDED UP KILLING HIM

He lost his husband! C!Ranboo fucking died!

He lost his son! Michael was kidnapped MULTIPLE TIMES (at least TWICE) And then thanks to the shitty ass finale making him LOSE HIS FUCKING MEMORY, HE DOESN'T EVEN REMEMBER!!!

He lost his best friend MULTIPLE TIMES (he lost metaphorically Tommy because of exile and how their relationship was damaged, then he thought he'd lost Tommy LITERALLY because he thought Tommy committed suicide in Exile, AND THEN, not long after Tommy got out of Exile, before they could repair their relationship, Tommy DIED. FOR REAL THIS TIME.)

And finally, his story ended not with him getting a chance to heal, but with him dying to his own nuke and then getting memory loss. And him getting memory loss is ALSO tragic in its own way but I won't go into that cus this is getting long.

So yeah here's my propaganda. /rp for all of this. I know I already put c__ in front of most of the names but just in case. I don't want anyone to get confused and think I'm talking about Actual Real Life 19-year-old YouTuber Tubbo.

I'm gonna end this out with this:

I don't know SHIT about Madoka Magica. I've not seen it yet. But I bet Sayaka Miki didn't die THREE times.

[Propaganda]

[proudfreakmetarusonikku]

wanted to doodle a quick comparison of some of the dsmp characters i draw the most bc i don’t talk about them in detail but i lot of thought into it and deliberately make them look quite different to their across.

c!tubbo has a broader face/chin, thin lips and brows, large and downturned eyes, and a larger, aquiline nose. he’s both meant to be sorta cutesy, with big expressive eyes, but also look strong and older than c!tommy (and c!ranboo, tho i didn’t draw him here bc his features are less human) to represent how being forced into the positions he was aged him before his years.

c!tommy has a very round face with chubby cheeks (and the cleft chin i caved on that), thick brows and thicker lips, a button nose, and slightly sharp, large eyes. he's meant to look very baby faced and almost doll-like. both because it’s a hilarious contrast to the not at all delicate or innocent c!tommy, and to represent how he was infantilised and basically not allowed to grow up due to his trauma effecting him so badly (along with the fact he's stuck at sixteen due to how i depict revival). it’s meant to be a tragic contrast to the injuries constantly covering him.

c!dream has a thinner, more triangular face, with thin brows and medium sized lips, a pointy small nose, and thinner, very sharp eyes. he’s also meant to have a noticeable resemblance to c!tommy- not exact, but their features are just similar enough they almost look like brothers. his features are specifically meant to be attractive in a very androgynous, fae-like way. i think c!dream would be very beautiful and take advantage of the halo effect it brings. the androgyny and fairy-like features are because i have him as a sort of proto-fae, species wise, and his species (which is just him at this point basically) is monosexual and therefore doesn’t have any sexual dimorphism.

[yourlocalmoon]

I know the dream smp has ended and everything but like.. C!Tubbo's character was so tragic and I hold him so close to my heart in a way I can't explain.

His character is complicated in a way that makes my heart burn.

I still have so many ideas for him :( Like seriously. That man self sabotages as his only coping mechanism.

One day, I will finally gather all my thoughts and find someone to talk too and I will give all my hcs and rants and aus about him because I LOVE HIM !!!

[mellorphic]

You’ll Never Be President

I don’t know if I’ve ever talked about this before but the ‘you’ll never be president’ line from Wilbur to Tommy is REALLY interesting to me because Tommy.. doesn’t want to be that.

While Tommy isn’t a follower - he goes against what people tell him very frequently to do what he thinks is right, or even just to do what he finds more fun - he’s not a leader either.

This isn’t to discredit that he CAN be (the stream before Doomsday when he rallied everyone to fight for L’Manberg is one example of this), but it’s definitely not a goal of his? And I think he finds it more limiting than anything (see: Wilbur making him president and him giving it to Tubbo because he can’t lead a country when he cares more about the discs, which was really mature of him imo but that’s an essay for another day). Tommy can’t mess around and have fun if he’s a president, and that’s something he values a lot.

We know Tommy was happiest in the Early Days of L’Manberg. As Wilbur’s Right-Hand-Man. And this is what I think is the most Tommy he’s ever been. Tommy’s not a follower but he’s a people person and he likes to be needed.

The title ‘Right-Hand-Man’ isn’t official, so it’s loose enough that Tommy has breathing room to do his Own Shit. But I think for Tommy it becomes synonymous with Vice President because Wilbur doesn’t ask him to devote his entire life to the country, but just.. to help Wil.

And that’s something Tommy is incredibly good at. Because he understands Wilbur a lot, maybe more than either of them realise. In Pogtopia, he managed to get Wil not to press the button by reminding him that if he did it, Tommy and Quackity would die too. In the presidential debates during the election arc, Tommy supported Wil.

Tommy functions best in a supporting role where there’s not too much pressure on him but he still feels like he has a purpose (side note: it’s why I love Protege AUs - he’s so desperate for a purpose at that point that he’ll take the supporting role at Dream’s side despite all the pressure, but I digress) it’s a really fine line because sometimes he ends up putting too much pressure on himself (like in the whole of Pogtopia, where Tommy’s role stopped being supporting Wilbur, and became saving him)

Anyways, the ‘You’ll never be president’ is really interesting. Because it shows Wilbur EXPECTS that of Tommy. He expects Tommy to just be in it for the power. And Tommy isn’t. Tommy’s there for Wilbur. Because he’s a character who loves before anything else and he’s never been interested in power or anything other than fun, safety and attachment.

Idk if this makes sense. I really relate to Tommy and his values and his relationship with Wil is beautiful and complex and tragic.