#Tigerstar's Paws

[bonefall]

Tigerstar was always interesting to me, and there's something about BB!Tigerstar that makes him immediately scarier. The fact that Firestar tried to find a root to everything wrong with him and found nothing, the fact that he never takes the blame for his own mistakes, even when Swiftpaw dies from the dogs. And the last post regarding thistle law. I think it was then that it clicked. The dark forest must've allowed him to practically fester.

That's it. BB!Tigerstar doesn't even have a prophecy that he will become a tyrant, Goosefeather lied. He told Pinestar a half-truth to give him enough anxiety that he'd have nightmares.

The only thing inevitable about Tigerstar was the slowly grinding gears of ideology. If it wasn't him, it would have been another cat with a charming smile and quick words. And that's what's so unsettling about him.

He was Spottedleaf's childhood best friend. He was a sweet little boy who wanted to please his mom and his mentor. He hummed his daughter Lynxkit's favorite lullaby as she passed away in his paws. His mate loved him. He raised a fine apprentice. The whole Clan respected him.

And he filled up unmarked graves with his murder victims, controlled his outsider mate with threat of death if she tried to escape, fed a nursing queen to dogs, because he stopped seeing them as people.

The Dark Forest gave him opportunity. A second chance to acquire everything he ever wanted; Godhood, his ideas in practice, a glorious future. But in truth, there was nothing inherent about his evil. He wasn't born with darkness inside of him.

Firestar sorts through his memories to find the root of his evil, and finds nothing. Unwilling to take blame and full of anger... but not unseen in other cats. That's all there is. A miserable pile of circumstance, taped together by a hardening cycle that started long before his mentor's mentor.

That's what I'm getting at with BB. Tyrants, abusers, and ideologues are people. Evil isn't special and unique, it's ugly and common. Horrible, villainous people can be family, friends, and coworkers. No one is immune to propaganda, and there is no magic way to preemptively catch a bad person.

I find that a lot more unsettling than the idea of people "born with darkness" and having prophecies and visions foreshadow their inevitable villainly, lmao

[djkinski]

revisiting some old concepts of mine

[zemoiii]

Hear me out..

An AU where Tiger bitch slapped Tiny but didn't attempt to kill him, and Tiny, instead of running towards the streets, he heads back to home again, furious by the humiliation, so he trains himself for a week, and comes back to the forest, where he and Tiger meet again, fight, and the little one loses, but still pulled a good fight enough to convince Tiger to take him to the clan. Two moons later and their relationship gets stronger and emotionally by Tiny's side; he thinks of Tiger as a father figure who's cruel, yet he acknowledges his value. So, one day, Tiger finally calls Tiny as "son". However, we all know Tiger's manipulative nature in the canon, and yeah in this au, he does this to make Tiny his loyal follower.

Their dynamic in this au is inspired by Andrew and Fletcher's dynamic from Whiplash.

[wolvebonez]

tigerclawstar if he was cool

im too lazy 2 color this .

[blimbo-buddy]

Oh is it in the way he calls your name? Or is it in the way he prays for rain? The wheel is turning now It's really turning now Bone, to the blade, My letter! White feather! No halves!

[vic-does-battlecats]

Mothwing and Hawkfrost

[warriors-ideas]

DOVESCOURGE REINCARNATION 💥💥

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[fatal-rewrites-warriors]

what’s goldenflower doin in darkest hour?

well SOMEONE'S gotta help out while everything is going to shit. let's just say Goldenflower steps up <3

[brazenbullock]

My boy Tigerheartstar !! I love him very much

[ladyofthevalley]

Why is darkness within so good already, the series was in a slump but like the characters are so vivid so far

[wolfypaw]

[bonefall]

What cats give Tigerstar his lives, since he gets them from the dark forest instead?

I think StarClan has an argument over it. The vast majority of cats in StarClan are furious with him; his murder attempts, his killings of innocent cats, his betrayal of ThunderClan when he was an ally of Brokenstar. He's everything they don't want.

But on the other hand... a little bit has changed about the dynamics of Bonefall TPB StarClan since I decided he would get Dark Forest Lives.

This is before Bluestar's death and Thistleclaw is still part of StarClan. So are his supporters. There are a few of them who want to give a life.

So I'm thinking, first, StarClan rejects him. Says they flatly refuse to give him his lives for what he has done. Runningnose leads him away, knowing there are other allies in the skies, but a few of his StarClan supporters follow quietly. Not very many-- less than 3.

It may make a cool setting for him to receive his lives at the border between StarClan and the Dark Forest. It's a strange, dusty nebula-like place where it's hard to see what's in front of you, impossible to find StarClan unless you're blessed by a star. Some of the glowing eyes in the fog are blue; most are red.

Thistleclaw (StarClan) For purity. To always stick to his principles, even when it makes life harder.

Brokenstar (Dark Forest) For ShadowClan. To always keep it in his heart, and protect it at all costs. It is the strongest and most noble Clan, and without it he would not be leader today; be worthy of it.

Skystar (StarClan) For conquest. Long ago, he watched his namesake Clan wither from the inside due to weakness. When the time came that they had no more territory to miserably cling to, they drowned like ants without a leaf. Never roll over and show your belly to your opponent; take what others don't deserve to have!

Leopardfoot (StarClan) For legacy. She conceived Tigerstar and his siblings because she wanted to mother strong, honorable kits. Pinestar and his bloodline were known for being Crusaders, respected and powerful. He left them and destroyed his reputation; but she's here to remind him that he is her son, more than he is his son. She finishes by telling him how proud she is.

Mapleshade (Dark Forest) For revenge. Oakstar put her children in that river, and Darkstar refused to allow her to bury them. She killed 3 more and StarClan became so furious they called both leaders to a trial and damned her victims in their blind rage. She couldn't win; but she could hurt them. THAT is a victory.

Oakstar (Dark Forest) For glory. After StarClan unfairly put him on that trial, he dedicated his life to trying to please them as they allowed a ridiculous rule to be implemented. His Crusades did not please StarClan, but they were wrong. They were a high point in history, never before nor since have warriors been so strong as when they brawled constantly, just for honor! Remember that warriors were made to fight, it is life's purpose.

Clawface (Dark Forest) For humility. All the strength in the world won't get an idiot very far, and it's easy to get caught off guard when you think you're at your most powerful. Never underestimate an opponent-- especially one you think will be easy to beat. (because he got killed by Graystripe lmao)

Shredtail (Dark Forest) For dedication. Always have a goal in mind, make every action a means to an end. Know what you want and cut a path towards it-- even through your allies, if it comes down to it.

And he looks around... is there no 9th cat to give him a life? Someone assures him that sometimes leaders don't get 9, when there aren't enough cats who wish for their long rule.

Angry, he's about to pack it up and move on, when a voice asks, "have I missed the party?"

It's Spottedleaf, his old friend... and a cat who was caught in the crossfire of his scheme to replace Lionheart. She plays with him a bit. "I'll give you a life... but I won't tell you what it is! Do you trust me?" knowing Spotty, and knowing he got her killed, and knowing she knows now that he killed her brother, he thinks about this... but his ambition wins out. He wants to win as long as possible.

The life she gives him is for death. For his first to be his last. She lays a curse on him that day as revenge for what he did and what he became; that his reign will be short and his ending bloody.

Later, when Tigerstar is striking the Impossible Deal with Scourge that he does not plan to honor, the leader of BloodClan pauses to consider the alliance... Clan cats are a dishonorable bunch, and BloodClan formed in the first place to oppose their violent crusades. Scourge is no fool, there's no way this broad-shouldered scoundrel is planning to make good on his side of the bargain.

But against his better judgement, as if the wind whispers in his ear... he agrees.

psst! Go look at this fanart of this scene!

[juicedaloe]

so i've been listening to the warrior cats audiobooks and there's this scene where fireheart is explaining to bramblepaw and tawnypaw that their father tigerstar is a traitor and it's really dramatic and ends with bramblepaw getting upset and running away but at the beginning it said that fireheart tucked his paws under him so all i could think about was how he was loafing

i drew fanart ^

[oleanderpigeon]

AU where Firestar is mentored by Tigerclaw and grows up to be Tigerstar's loyal right hand (paw?)

[clanslist]

Warriors: Changing Skies #1 - The Elders' Quest

The launch of a brand-new arc in Erin Hunter’s #1 bestselling Warriors series find the Clans navigating an ominous prophecy that foreshadows the destruction of the Moonpool, and the end of the Cats' connection to StarClan.

As Leafbare approaches, a new danger threatens the Clans. Twoleg construction has encroached on Clan territory, poisoning the stream and making prey especially scarce for SkyClan. Meanwhile, their leader, Leafstar is struggling with a loss of vision while trying maintain authority over a Clan that increasingly doubts her ability to lead.

In ShadowClan, Tawnypelt senses peril as the Twoleg construction threatens the Moonpool, but she can’t get anycat, especially her son, Tigerstar, to listen. Frustrated with the younger cats who don't respect her, she decides to take matters into her own paws.

In the midst of the chaos, Moonpaw, an apprentice struggling to understand the mysterious voice in her head, thinks that she might be having visions. But the voice becomes increasingly sinister, and Moonpaw wonders if’s a sign of darkness on the horizon.

Cats shown: Leafstar (center), Tawnypelt, and Crowfeather (top).

[waywardsalt]

tbh i think the biggest issues(s) with this one are partially the chapters from stick’s pov, they’re a little unnecessary when things could have been kept vague for longer, with things instead revealed to leafstar and a lot more focus instead left on skyclan (tbh the whole thing with stick and co. isnt really bad it just takes up a little too much time with the stick pov) but on the other hand the shit with sharpclaw is baffling in how there is basically no consequences for him undermining and talking over leafstar and doing major shit with his clanmates without telling her, it practically feels like the whole book is building up to leafstar inevitably (and rightfully?) confronting him about his behavior but the book just brushes it off and was like oh its fine as if he wasnt repeatedly ignoring and talking over his own leader as if he was already leader (which reads as sinister since in firestars quests its made very obvious that he really really wanted to be leader????) like god he borders on antagonistic and nothing comes of it in any satisfying way

reached skyclan’s destiny in my warrior cats reread let’s see to what extent i really enjoy and put up with just reading about clan minutiae