#Tigerstar's Paws
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bonefall · 1 year ago
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Tigerstar was always interesting to me, and there's something about BB!Tigerstar that makes him immediately scarier. The fact that Firestar tried to find a root to everything wrong with him and found nothing, the fact that he never takes the blame for his own mistakes, even when Swiftpaw dies from the dogs. And the last post regarding thistle law. I think it was then that it clicked. The dark forest must've allowed him to practically fester.
That's it. BB!Tigerstar doesn't even have a prophecy that he will become a tyrant, Goosefeather lied. He told Pinestar a half-truth to give him enough anxiety that he'd have nightmares.
The only thing inevitable about Tigerstar was the slowly grinding gears of ideology. If it wasn't him, it would have been another cat with a charming smile and quick words. And that's what's so unsettling about him.
He was Spottedleaf's childhood best friend. He was a sweet little boy who wanted to please his mom and his mentor. He hummed his daughter Lynxkit's favorite lullaby as she passed away in his paws. His mate loved him. He raised a fine apprentice. The whole Clan respected him.
And he filled up unmarked graves with his murder victims, controlled his outsider mate with threat of death if she tried to escape, fed a nursing queen to dogs, because he stopped seeing them as people.
The Dark Forest gave him opportunity. A second chance to acquire everything he ever wanted; Godhood, his ideas in practice, a glorious future. But in truth, there was nothing inherent about his evil. He wasn't born with darkness inside of him.
Firestar sorts through his memories to find the root of his evil, and finds nothing. Unwilling to take blame and full of anger... but not unseen in other cats. That's all there is. A miserable pile of circumstance, taped together by a hardening cycle that started long before his mentor's mentor.
That's what I'm getting at with BB. Tyrants, abusers, and ideologues are people. Evil isn't special and unique, it's ugly and common. Horrible, villainous people can be family, friends, and coworkers. No one is immune to propaganda, and there is no magic way to preemptively catch a bad person.
I find that a lot more unsettling than the idea of people "born with darkness" and having prophecies and visions foreshadow their inevitable villainly, lmao
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djkinski · 11 months ago
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revisiting some old concepts of mine
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zemoiii · 11 months ago
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Hear me out..
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An AU where Tiger bitch slapped Tiny but didn't attempt to kill him, and Tiny, instead of running towards the streets, he heads back to home again, furious by the humiliation, so he trains himself for a week, and comes back to the forest, where he and Tiger meet again, fight, and the little one loses, but still pulled a good fight enough to convince Tiger to take him to the clan. Two moons later and their relationship gets stronger and emotionally by Tiny's side; he thinks of Tiger as a father figure who's cruel, yet he acknowledges his value. So, one day, Tiger finally calls Tiny as "son". However, we all know Tiger's manipulative nature in the canon, and yeah in this au, he does this to make Tiny his loyal follower.
Their dynamic in this au is inspired by Andrew and Fletcher's dynamic from Whiplash.
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wolvebonez · 3 months ago
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tigerclawstar if he was cool
im too lazy 2 color this .
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blimbo-buddy · 1 year ago
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Oh is it in the way he calls your name? Or is it in the way he prays for rain? The wheel is turning now It's really turning now Bone, to the blade, My letter! White feather! No halves!
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vic-does-battlecats · 8 months ago
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Mothwing and Hawkfrost
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o-sunny-day · 1 month ago
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finals week has broken me.
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warriors-ideas · 1 year ago
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DOVESCOURGE REINCARNATION 💥💥
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ladyofthevalley · 3 months ago
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Why is darkness within so good already, the series was in a slump but like the characters are so vivid so far
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juicedaloe · 1 year ago
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so i've been listening to the warrior cats audiobooks and there's this scene where fireheart is explaining to bramblepaw and tawnypaw that their father tigerstar is a traitor and it's really dramatic and ends with bramblepaw getting upset and running away but at the beginning it said that fireheart tucked his paws under him so all i could think about was how he was loafing
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i drew fanart ^
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wolfypaw · 7 months ago
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bonefall · 2 years ago
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Just here because I was thinking. Is Tigerclaw's Fury axed in BB? On another note, and this is me just rambling, I actually thought it was a pretty decent book, to get a feel of what Tigerclaw thought and how he acted when he was booted. I kind of wish they did more antagonist books. My only real gripe is that Mapleshade had no business being there and interfering. Like, It should have just been him. Maybe even Thistleclaw if they had to, but it would be better if it was all just his choice.
Eh, there's parts I like and parts I don't. It's better than most, simply because it's actually fun to be in Tigerclaw's head because he is SOOO petty. I love his cunty ass.
"Yes Jaggedtooth made me leader. No he cannot be my deputy because he needs to learn I don't owe him shit" King behavior
But it is very annoying that Mapleshade was made into the Satan of Warriors. Of all the demons, why her? She has such a good, clear gimmick-- She Haunts Applekin. That's It. Why does she need to be behind every evil thing?
(The answer is because the writers basically see evil as a broad nebulous thing and are allergic to having consistent motivations for their villains besides Killing Murder And Elder Abuse unless theyre gonna pull a DOTC but. Sip.)
TF is not axed in BB, but it is massively reworked. This time, it is actually Firestar's perspective...... in StarClan. He, as a ghost, tries to channel Tigerstar after his double death to gleam any answers about him, to find out what made him so evil, so horrible.
What he finds is... nothing. He gets to experience every thought behind every action Tigerstar ever took, and sees he was normal. He loved his mom. He thought about his kids a lot. He was filled with the same kind of jealous spite for Redtail that Dustpelt had for Fireheart way back in the day, and that he felt bad when Spottedleaf died. He was fearful, lonely, angry a lot, but it's not particularly inhuman/noncatlike.
He finds NOTHING, and in that absence, there were allies. Tigerstar wasn't special. There were dozens of people just like him, who coalesced around his broad shoulders and big speeches.
The real horror of Tigerstar is this; anyone with white teeth and enough ambition could have been him. That he was going to happen, and had occured before, as Brokenstar, as Oakstar. If Tigerstar had died as a kit, Runningnose would have still been there, and Blackstar, and Leopardstar, and even Darkstripe and Dustpelt and Longtail. Who would have been Thistleclaw's apprentice instead?
Heroics are precious and unique. But evil... evil is banal.
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oleanderpigeon · 1 year ago
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AU where Firestar is mentored by Tigerclaw and grows up to be Tigerstar's loyal right hand (paw?)
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clanslist · 9 months ago
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Warriors: Changing Skies #1 - The Elders' Quest
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The launch of a brand-new arc in Erin Hunter’s #1 bestselling Warriors series find the Clans navigating an ominous prophecy that foreshadows the destruction of the Moonpool, and the end of the Cats' connection to StarClan.
As Leafbare approaches, a new danger threatens the Clans. Twoleg construction has encroached on Clan territory, poisoning the stream and making prey especially scarce for SkyClan. Meanwhile, their leader, Leafstar is struggling with a loss of vision while trying maintain authority over a Clan that increasingly doubts her ability to lead.
In ShadowClan, Tawnypelt senses peril as the Twoleg construction threatens the Moonpool, but she can’t get anycat, especially her son, Tigerstar, to listen. Frustrated with the younger cats who don't respect her, she decides to take matters into her own paws.
In the midst of the chaos, Moonpaw, an apprentice struggling to understand the mysterious voice in her head, thinks that she might be having visions. But the voice becomes increasingly sinister, and Moonpaw wonders if’s a sign of darkness on the horizon.
Cats shown: Leafstar (center), Tawnypelt, and Crowfeather (top).
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sleepyspots-wc-designs · 1 month ago
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I'd like to request a Sasha design if u do not mind whatsoever :3c
One Sasha! Coming right up!
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SASHA
“Tigerstar's death hurts me. It feels as if a part of me just died with him. And yet... I'm relieved, too.”
[Cinnamon point classic tabby with medium white and pale green-blue eyes.]
Had a very rough day, the worst of a long while, as I drew her. Unfortunately I think I’ll associate today with this character for a long time :/
Sorry Sasha, you deserve better than that. And also better than Tigerstar, but oh well.
Design notes!
Honestly I’m surprised I never drew her sooner, what with my love of colorpoints.
Mostly sleek coat, sans the two-pronged cowlicks that are prominent throughout her design.
Very fluffy tail.
Pants!!!
Two “beauty marks” on her face: one below her right eye and one on the left side of her muzzle.
White tips, everywhere. Ears, tail, paws, you name it.
Heart shaped markings on her ears. Her face point is also vaguely heart shaped, but her “hair” hides that.
Whenever I envision her, I always see her with stripes. I think this is a new development; a younger Spotty would have drawn her as far more centralized in her points. But girlie has marks, in my heart.
Scarring includes: None! Soft gal.
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everybody-loves-purdy · 7 months ago
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I’ve seen a few people lately share what warriors characters they think represent the seven deadly sins, and I’ve had a think about it too and come to my own conclusions. And I thought it would be fun to include a relevant quote for each one.
Wrath : Darktail
But it wasn't a claw Darktail lowered toward him. It was his head, as he bent down to whisper in his ear. "I will destroy you, and all the Clans, for what you did to me.”
Onestar’s Confession Chapter 29
Pride : Skystar
“That’s the problem Clear Sky.” Thunder lashed his tail. “I can’t tell you anything. You think you know it all. But you don’t! You can’t tell good from bad, you never could. But you’re so determined to be ‘right’ that you’ll twist everything to prove it. If you mistook a fox for a rabbit you’d keep calling it a rabbit while it tore out your throat, just because you’d rather die than admit you were wrong.”
A Forest Divided - Chapter 12
Lust: Ashfur
“Are you ready to fight me?” Squirrelflight demanded. “Because that’s what you’ll have to do, if you want to stop me.”
“No, I don’t want to harm you,” Ashfur meowed. “I still love you.”
Squirrelflight’s only response was to turn away from him with a disgusted hiss. Ashfur blinked and looked away briefly with a dip of his head. To Shadowsight’s surprise, he seemed genuinely hurt, as if he couldn’t believe that the dark ginger she-cat had rejected him. How could Ashfur possibly think Squirrelflight would go along with him, now or ever? Shadowsight wondered. Then he realized that Ashfur wasn’t thinking straight at all. His obsession with Squirrelflight was making him ignore what was right in front of him.
“Why are you forcing me to do this?” he asked plaintively. “If you would just admit that you love me, I could stop.”
The Place of No Stars Chapter 15
Greed: Tigerstar (I)
As Fireheart said good-bye to Yellowfang and went back to hunting, he felt a new surge of determination to bring Tigerclaw's guilt into the open. For the sake of Redtail, murdered; for Ravenpaw, driven from the Clan; for Cinderpaw, crippled. And for all the Clan cats, both now and to come, who were in danger from Tigerclaw's greed for power.
Forest of Secrets Chapter 4
Gluttony: Slash
Juniper grunted. “We shouldn’t have to go hunting when food is rotting in camp.”
“Why doesn’t Slash share it?” Raven growled angrily. “He gives the best pieces to Splinter and Beetle and leaves the rest to turn sour when we’re eating scraps.”
Path of Stars Chapter 12
Sloth: Sol
"Ask me if Sol joined in the fight," Pod rasped. Brambleclaw cocked his ears. "Well?"
"He didn't raise a single claw to help us," the old tom growled. "He wasn't even there to watch! He just strolled in here while we were licking our wounds."
"What happened then?" Brackenfur asked. Jingo twitched her ears. "If he'd admitted he was wrong, it might have been different. But he insisted that we were the ones who decided to fight, and it wasn't his fault that we lost. Then he sat down and started washing himself, and asked Jet to bring him some food."
Sunrise Chapter 11
Envy: Mapleshade
"I earned my place in the Dark Forest. But what made it worse was that the father of my drowned kits took a RiverClan mate! He promised he would only love me! They had a daughter, and she had a son, and do you know who that son was?"
Crookedstar shook his head, trying to keep up. “Shellheart," Mapleshade snarled. "Your father." Her paws were trembling. "Do you see now? Do you understand?"
"Understand what?"
"You mouse-brain! My kin should have been the leader of RiverClan, not his! If ThunderClan hadn't driven me across the river, my kits would never have died. If RiverClan hadn't rejected me, I'd be their father's mate, not some fish-hearted RiverClan queen." Her breath was coming in gasps now. "I’ve endured so much betrayal! So many cats have hurt me beyond measure. And then you came, destined for so much greatness, when you should never have been born!"
Crookedstar’s Promise Chapter 39
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