#The Gentleman’s Guide to Vice and Virtue
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To me, swapping the genders for Edwin and Charles just… doesn’t work. Like at all.
The identities of “1980s Rude Boy slash traditional rugby lad” and “flamboyant Victorian schoolboy” is so deeply interwoven into their particular complexities and traumas that it just doesn’t translate whatsoever. Being sporty is part of what makes Charles socially acceptable in the mainstream and connects to the popular “comp cis het” headcanon for him, and being gentlemanly yet unable to hide his feminine mannerisms is what caused Edwin to be targeted.
“Whipsmart tomboyish Victorian schoolgirl that’s independent and likely a feminist” and “alternative feminine sporty bird” is… such different flavors that they might as well be OCs. Women being sporty still tends to be a bit more non-traditional, even now. And being an outspoken woman in Victorian England would make someone a social pariah, but not to the point of physical torment - psychological warfare would have likely been their weapon of choice.
Ironically, I think it being so hard to gender swap Edwin and Charles, really highlights just how well written their characters are.
P.S. If you’re into the aforementioned interpretation of gender swapped Edwin, I’m begging you to check out the character Felicity Montague in Mackenzi Lee’s “Montague Siblings” series. Her particular novel is The Lady’s Guide to Petticoats and Piracy, but her character is first introduced in The Gentleman’s Guide to Vice and Virtue - the first book in the series and my personal favorite.
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yourfavebooklrsfavebooklr · 6 months ago
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Some books I’d recommend that feature disabled characters to read this July!
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Note: I’m aware that not all everyone in every community represented on this list considers themself disabled. As an outsider, it’s not my place to say- they are included because some people in these communities do consider themselves disabled, especially with many being spectrums where different people will experience different severities.
Cosmoknights - Amputee side character (major character in book 2)
Nimona - Amputee main character
Before the Devil Knows You’re Here - Dyslexic love interest
The Spirit Bares its Teeth - Autistic main character, autistic side character
The Gentleman’s Guide to Vice and Virtue - Love interest with epilepsy, main character becomes deaf in one ear, MC with anxiety in the third book of the series
To Shape a Dragon’s Breath - Autistic major side character, wheelchair user minor side character
A Lady For a Duke - Love interest with PTSD
Cemetery Boys - Love interest with undiagnosed ADHD (confirmed by author)
Into the Drowning Deep - Autistic character, two Deaf characters
Don’t Be a Drag - MC with depression and anxiety
Iron Widow - Wheelchair user MC with chronic pain
The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet - Little person character
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ladyannelister · 2 years ago
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Since we will soon be getting film adaptations of Red, White and Royal Blue and Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, I hope there will eventually be adaptations made for these excellent queer YA novels as well!! 🤞🏳️‍🌈
For The House in the Cerulean Sea in particular, I need the adaptation to be animated! Now that we have films like Nimona on Netflix, I am hopeful that a similar animated adaptation can be made for TJ Klune’s novel. *speaking this into existence*
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spending-life-pretending · 2 months ago
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monty really said adrian chill out girl I was at the devil’s sacrament
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remusfinglupin · 2 years ago
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Adrian: I’m sorry. It’s all just made me a bit nervous.
Monty: Everything makes you nervous, Adrian. You’re a walking panic attack.
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englishluster · 1 year ago
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I miss the Montague siblings
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Didn’t know The Nobleman’s Guide to Scandal and Shipwrecks would be a 14 hour perfect soppy therapy session epilogue to the other 2 books but I’m absolutely here for it
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the-golden-dragoness · 2 years ago
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The Nobleman’s guide to Scandal and Shipwrecks is the DEFINITION of found family that is actually family
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Disabled Characters Showdown Round 1 Wave 4
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Propaganda/Who is this:
Percy Newton- He is from the Gentleman’s Guide to Vice and Virtue. He is more level-headed, calculating, and polite than Monty, and is more reserved.
Geordi La Forge- From Star Trek: The Next Generation. He’s talented at engineering, and is a close friend of Data.
Check out the other polls in this wave and prior here.
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eleftherian · 1 year ago
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tbh percy & monty probably would not have ended up together if it weren’t for felicity
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yourfavebooklrsfavebooklr · 4 months ago
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Happy bi week to those who celebrate! These are some books which contain bi main characters (including some bi aros / bi aces) that I’ve read and enjoyed. Every book on this list is one I would recommend to someone (depending on the person).
(My apologies if some of them contain pan main characters instead, it’s been a while since I’ve read a lot of them and I don’t completely remember. I tried to check but I can’t be 100% sure)
Also, bonus: An Arcane Inheritance by Kamilah Cole is a bi4bi dark academia thriller coming out in 2025!
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grapegirl77 · 2 years ago
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I think she likes you,” he says. I roll my eyes. “Just because you and Percy live in unholy matrimony doesn’t mean every same-gendered pair also wants to. And we only kissed once, and that was more an experimentation to see if kissing can be an enjoyable experience for me. And the answer is no, though I’d say she’s the best I’ve had. But the point is moot as I don’t think it’s ever really going to be good because I just don’t seem to desire that sort of relationship with anyone the way everyone else does. But just because she kissed me doesn’t mean she likes me. I once saw you necking a hedgerow.” Monty blinks. “I meant likes as in begrudgingly respects, but my word, how long have you been bottling that up, darling?”
this is just so hilarious so yeah yep
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karmilleryn · 2 years ago
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for anyone else who is a fan of both “The Gentleman’s Guide to Vice and Virtue” and “A Gentleman’s Guide to Love and Murder”:
every time i hear someone talking about one of them and just calling it “Gentleman’s Guide” for short, i usually for some reason think of the one they’re NOT talking about first and get really confused… and it doesn’t help that both have a main character named Monty 😂
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queer-books-bracket · 2 years ago
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girlwithlandscape · 2 years ago
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“The great tragic love story of Percy and me is neither great nor truly a love story, and is tragic only for its single-sidedness. It is also not an epic monolith that has plagued me since boyhood, as might be expected. Rather, it is simply the tale of how two people can be important to each other their whole lives, and then, one morning, quite without meaning to, one of them wakes to find that importance has been magnified into a sudden and intense desire to put his tongue in the other's mouth. A long, slow slide, then a sudden impact.”
— Mackenzi Lee, “The Gentleman’s Guide to Vice and Virtue”
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no-fxn-club · 5 months ago
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Ur so right with this bestie
I’m so fucking gay for Percy fucking Newton
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