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Screenshotting my original post so my addition shows up in the tags.
Two-siding a genocide in your ongoing podcast while an actual real world genocide is going on is WILD.
The humans have been confirmed to be colonizers of land originally inhabited by monsters. They have carried out multiple genocides and forced the monsters out of their homes and into cities on the fringes of the world. Then more human invaders show up to destroy those cities (also the monster cultural centers).
We have confirmation that the city they hit first has been leveled entirely now. The city that Olala was seeking because it contained so much information and history about monster kind.
We've also got political leaders refusing to get involved unless the bombing comes to them, and the monsters being treated as primitive and ineffective against the advanced tech of the off-world humans. This is a really uncomfortable if unintentionally a parallel and actually awful if it is intentional. Best case scenario, it's trying to make a connection between fictional monsters and real life people in a way that's both othering and pretty racist. Worst case, the writers actually believe this is a two side issue and that any attempt to stop Israel is "just as bad" as an ongoing genocide.
Does anyone know if anyone has made any statements? I'm not expecting every creative to do so, but when your work is hitting this close to real world situations, it might be necessary.
#The Penumbra Podcast#TPP#TPP Critical#The Penumbra Podcast Critical#The Second Citadel critical#The Second Citadel#tw genocide#genocide mention#tw genocide mention#Again I'll say that Eskew Productions made a statement when their show skewed close to real world happenings#it's wild that Penumbra hasn't when what they're doing is much closer#If anyone has anything more coherent to add please do#I might revisit this again with transcripts later#This season has already been a slog and now just... woof
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Behold: a monster
#critical role#the mangus archives#the penumbra podcast#malevolent#malevolent podcast#tma#cr#tpp#welcome to night vale#wtnv#jonathan sims#jon sims#arthur lester#mollymauk tealeaf#cecil palmer#juno steel#podcasts#podcast shit
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why is so much happening this week ahhhh
#critical role#junoverse#malevolent#hello from the hallowoods#welcome to night vale#bells hells#tlovm#vox machina#tpp#the penumbra podcast#hfth#wtnv#@all creators THIS WEEK for some reason: AHHHHHHH#ty for your time
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vanilla scent comes from orchids.
juno describes nureyev's cologne as smelling of spices from a far off planet, and something he couldn't place, which was later revealed to be the orchids.
vanilla and spices.
conclusion: nureyev smells like Christmas cookie Yankee candles.
#not open to criticism actually. im living my truth#tpp#the penumbra podcast#juno steel#junoverse#peter nureyev#jupeter#swear to god tpp merch team yall better make a nureyev scented candle or official perfume like tma did PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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While the production unfolds we have an important question for all of you narrative podcast weirdos.
We really need the statistics on this, thank you��💓
#road to moscow#rtm#rtm podcast#valerian inc.#valery worlds#fictional podcast#narrative podcast#the magnus pod#tmagp#tma#tma podcast#camp here and there#chnt#smile grove#tpp#the penumbra podcast#hello from the hallowoods#hfth#critical role#welcome to night vale#wtnv#alice isn't dead#the orbiting human circus#death by dying#stellar firma#rusty quill#two princes#woe.begone#wolf 359#dungeons and daddies
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Yes, I know the last two are TECHNICALLY ttrpg, but I don't care 😁
#fiction podcasts#welcome to nightvale#the magnus archive#the bright sessions#wolf 359#alice isn't dead#critical role#the adventure zone#wtnv#tpp#mag#cr#taz#polls
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some initial notes on the marching ants + hobbit for sizing
#ocs#IMAGE#the critics will call it tpp with high school stoner dyke-fag politics#but they're something more to me
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what is your opinion on pathetic podcast men in general? (Also what are your favorite characters from all the pods you've watched)
Hello!!
Generally the more wet cat a podcast man is, the more likely I’m going to love him. Jon and Arthur, my absolute beloveds. They may not be my top favs but damn they’re up there.
As for my favorites in each podcast!
WtNV: Kevin :]
TMA: Elias (yeah yeah sue me (also secretly Barnabas Bennett))
TMAGP: I’m convinced that Augustus is Jonah but for the sake of the new characters, I do vibe with Sam and Colin
TPP: Jet or Damien depending on which story
Malevolent: Oh this is tough… Probably The Butcher. (Yes, I did sob aggressively during Part 40. Devastated.)
Dungeons and Daddies: Henry Oak
Critical Role: Percy and Fresh Cut Grass (haven’t listened to Campaign 2 ;^;)
[Keep editing because I forget the amount of podcasts I listen to]
[[Does The Bible in a Year count???]]
#why…why are they mostly villains lmao#Kayne is a close second#Barnabas is more fanon interpretation as well but I’ve fallen in love with this lil man#same with Jonathan Fanshawe#ocelli asks#tma#malevolent#wtnv#tpp#critical role#dungeons and daddies
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some characters are simply fat in my heart and no official art can convince me otherwise. jester from critical role, rita from the penumbra and moonshine from naddpod are some of them <33
#jester lavorre#moonshine cybin#rita penumbra#critical role#tpp#naddpod#screeching into the void#text
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Benzaiten Steel
#Benzaiten Steel#I'm going off vibes alone I haven't listened to the actual eps in quite a while#So sorry if there are specific things about his appearance mentioned in those that I missed. I don't think there were any though#Junoverse#The penumbra podcast#Tpp#Btw about art requests-- if you sent one I'll get to them! Not sure if I'll be done today though it's getting pretty late#I appreciate the requests a lot though thanks you!!#I should practice dark skin more it looks a bit weird if you have any constructive advice/criticism I'd be very thankful#Not in terms of anatomy though I know it sucks enormous balls#PS: I did age Ben up some
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same vibes
#sorry when i saw matt make that face last night i was like. hang on where's that image i have of noah simes at the back of my camera roll#very sad it crops out the gay fear on that one#cr spoilers#critical role#tpp
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okay i'm salty with tpp season 4 (featuring some criticism)
i'd like to make it clear that i love this podcast and i really seriously don't want to sound like a hater but i'm just,, upset with how it's going
why tpp (junoverse) episodes just kinda,, keep progressively getting worse?? like yeah there are great moments in the more recent episodes, the "i think i did what i could and it was better than nothing", cologne, just the whole aurinko family escape, but that's it?? i mean in earlier seasons, hell, even earlier in s4, the episodes were great in all their entirety and now it's just meh.
also i feel like a part of the problem might be that earlier the episodes, even if they all played a part of an overarching plot, could also work as self-contained stories. imo, monster's reflection did an amazing job at that: you can listen to it on its own with little context and it makes sense, the story is wrapped up by the end of the arc, yet you know that the entire second season from this point on would make zero sense without monster's reflection, since it drops all these important plot points, but does it neatly (unlike the ruby mind reading in blank slate p1) and it feels organic.
i really hope all the weaker episodes are wrapped up by the finale, because right now (and it hurts to say, seriously) i'm not really even enjoying the podcast.
#the penumbra podcast#the penumbra spoilers#tpp#junoverse#juno steel#ksaw’s random thoughts#im upset i hate it#i didnt want to say that and it hurts to do so#however#i felt like i had to#i want to believe that kabert will somehow manage to fix it all but i kinda doubt it at this point#i feel lowkey terrible writing this but seriously what is even happening at this point#i may regret posting#seriously i feel guilty to criticize the thing i've found comfort in for the last six months
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Every once in a while, my thought process while listening to Penumbra goes roughly like this:
Concierge: “And welcome, Traveller, to the Pen-”
Me: “Traveller?? Oh, oh! Artagan! We are the Traveler here, yes, yes! We are Artagan!
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Hmmmm with the btvs poll side blog being so fun im wondering if i should make one for critrole as well. or maybe tpp? Its such a small fandom on here it might be nice to have a little more content even if its only like ten ppl interacting with it
So i guess like/reblog if you would be interested in either? And clarrify in the tags (or replies) which one
Thanks guys!
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thinking about the penumbra podcast and how sad i am about the direction they took with juno steel season 3-onward :// (OK THIS GOT SO LONG SO ITS BROKEN INTO PARAGRAPHS UNDER A READMORE)
like i think seasons 1 and 2 are SO good in such different ways but im so disappointed w how they handled the transition into a more ensemble-focused format. like i think first of all juno as an unreliable narrator is a big part of what makes it work and when they switched to peter once in season one (if i am remembering that correctly? its been a While) it works because it is such a fundamental disruption of the audience's perspective and highlights the chaos n confusion of our new narrator (again i might be fully misremembering this lol).
and second i hate hate hate the way they they handled (SPOILERS) the juno+peter reunion. like i remember listening to kevin talk about the desicion to not explicitly show them working out their relationship and having those convos happen 99% offscreen and he said smth to the effect of "well other people have written that scene a hundred times and anything we did wouldve been disappointing" and like ok have some confidence in ur own writing characterization lol and also i think that is a symptom of overrelation w fandom... i was in a discord server w kevin and i believe they are now going by harley and there is nothing WRONG with that but like . i am here for the story YOU are writing and while fandom / fanfic can be a great supplement you shouldnt be relying on it for fundamental characterization??? of the protagonist and his romantic interest ?????
and my final big issue i think is that they fell into i think a similar pitfall that taz:amnesty does which is the stakes become higher and higher by means of scale when that sort of shift doesnt serve the story. like it starts as a small town / big city facing internal danger but then it becomes a whole apocalypse that involves the entire world but then the stakes have to go up because you did a world-saving thing LAST season so the stakes start moving around and outside the scope of what we initially cared about and then suddenly our protag, who was initially interesting because they were so deeply tied to PLACE (kepler / hyperion city), is now this over-inflated whole-multiverse-and-all-of-existence saver. which i think can be handled well a la into the spiderverse but that depends on genre and i think sci-fi noir of episodic monster-of-the-week is just not as well suited to that kind of change as comic-book superhero.
from an audience perspective i think the solution to these problems is to either listen to season 1 as a self-contained story about two sad sad people solving a mystery that has implications beyond its internal scope but like thats not part of the story we get to see (similar to like. disco elysium's quote-unquote "bad ending"). and from the writers perspective i think some limiting of ambition was needed. i think that season three shouldve been handled very differently and also been a wrap on the juno steel story. i think a series of two-episode adventures with a juno steel narration with each adventure focusing on his relationship with a different character wouldve been one way to go about this, culminating with a climactic conversation between him and peter and maybe it works and maybe it doesnt. and then the overarching story connecting their adventures comes to an end and we leave whatever happens next open ended but the characterization in the moment of the finale is solid. but maybe thats just me.
#tpp#not putting this in the main tag bc i dont wanna be like. mean lol. but also i think this is very valid and generous criticism#whatever.#i started relistening to the remastered juno pilot on a whim while i walked to get coffee#and. apparently i had Thoughts#?.txt
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A ll those Johnny callouts on my dash are delicious. I don't even have anything to contribute i'm just a petty hater 😎
#i haven't even been in the fandom for more than a year lol#but i remember making up arbitrary rules so we could keep our space a johnny free zone and BOY did people get mad at that#like let us keep this one pocket of the internet where we can criticize Johnny freely. every other space was already a Johnny shrine#thanks to the Keanu effect (thanks for nothing Keanu)#more reasons why i joined mgs. they introduced celebrities in TPP but no one cares for them lol#and since every single character is a war criminal we circumvent 'my blorbo is holier than thou' drama#like there were really people who came to our server dedicated to sucking corpo cock and tried to lecture us on Johnnys revolutionary ideas
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