#TPP Critical

[littlebunnysander]

Screenshotting my original post so my addition shows up in the tags.

Two-siding a genocide in your ongoing podcast while an actual real world genocide is going on is WILD.

The humans have been confirmed to be colonizers of land originally inhabited by monsters. They have carried out multiple genocides and forced the monsters out of their homes and into cities on the fringes of the world. Then more human invaders show up to destroy those cities (also the monster cultural centers).

We have confirmation that the city they hit first has been leveled entirely now. The city that Olala was seeking because it contained so much information and history about monster kind.

We've also got political leaders refusing to get involved unless the bombing comes to them, and the monsters being treated as primitive and ineffective against the advanced tech of the off-world humans. This is a really uncomfortable if unintentionally a parallel and actually awful if it is intentional. Best case scenario, it's trying to make a connection between fictional monsters and real life people in a way that's both othering and pretty racist. Worst case, the writers actually believe this is a two side issue and that any attempt to stop Israel is "just as bad" as an ongoing genocide.

Does anyone know if anyone has made any statements? I'm not expecting every creative to do so, but when your work is hitting this close to real world situations, it might be necessary.

[freezingfogsblog]

Behold: a monster

[its-your-mind]

why is so much happening this week ahhhh

[bamfwizard]

vanilla scent comes from orchids.

juno describes nureyev's cologne as smelling of spices from a far off planet, and something he couldn't place, which was later revealed to be the orchids.

vanilla and spices.

conclusion: nureyev smells like Christmas cookie Yankee candles.

[valerianinc]

While the production unfolds we have an important question for all of you narrative podcast weirdos.

We really need the statistics on this, thank you���💓

[dreamingdewdrops]

Yes, I know the last two are TECHNICALLY ttrpg, but I don't care 😁

[carbootsoul]

some initial notes on the marching ants + hobbit for sizing

[absoluteocellibehavior]

what is your opinion on pathetic podcast men in general? (Also what are your favorite characters from all the pods you've watched)

Hello!!

Generally the more wet cat a podcast man is, the more likely I’m going to love him. Jon and Arthur, my absolute beloveds. They may not be my top favs but damn they’re up there.

As for my favorites in each podcast!

WtNV: Kevin :]

TMA: Elias (yeah yeah sue me (also secretly Barnabas Bennett))

TMAGP: I’m convinced that Augustus is Jonah but for the sake of the new characters, I do vibe with Sam and Colin

TPP: Jet or Damien depending on which story

Malevolent: Oh this is tough… Probably The Butcher. (Yes, I did sob aggressively during Part 40. Devastated.)

Dungeons and Daddies: Henry Oak

Critical Role: Percy and Fresh Cut Grass (haven’t listened to Campaign 2 ;^;)

[Keep editing because I forget the amount of podcasts I listen to]

[[Does The Bible in a Year count???]]

[chaos-burst]

some characters are simply fat in my heart and no official art can convince me otherwise. jester from critical role, rita from the penumbra and moonshine from naddpod are some of them <33

[kjzx]

Benzaiten Steel

[lucifer-kane]

same vibes

[juliuscaesar-txt]

okay i'm salty with tpp season 4 (featuring some criticism)

i'd like to make it clear that i love this podcast and i really seriously don't want to sound like a hater but i'm just,, upset with how it's going

why tpp (junoverse) episodes just kinda,, keep progressively getting worse?? like yeah there are great moments in the more recent episodes, the "i think i did what i could and it was better than nothing", cologne, just the whole aurinko family escape, but that's it?? i mean in earlier seasons, hell, even earlier in s4, the episodes were great in all their entirety and now it's just meh.

also i feel like a part of the problem might be that earlier the episodes, even if they all played a part of an overarching plot, could also work as self-contained stories. imo, monster's reflection did an amazing job at that: you can listen to it on its own with little context and it makes sense, the story is wrapped up by the end of the arc, yet you know that the entire second season from this point on would make zero sense without monster's reflection, since it drops all these important plot points, but does it neatly (unlike the ruby mind reading in blank slate p1) and it feels organic.

i really hope all the weaker episodes are wrapped up by the finale, because right now (and it hurts to say, seriously) i'm not really even enjoying the podcast.

[loadsofcats]

Every once in a while, my thought process while listening to Penumbra goes roughly like this:

Concierge: “And welcome, Traveller, to the Pen-”

Me: “Traveller?? Oh, oh! Artagan! We are the Traveler here, yes, yes! We are Artagan!

[shiverandqueeef]

Hmmmm with the btvs poll side blog being so fun im wondering if i should make one for critrole as well. or maybe tpp? Its such a small fandom on here it might be nice to have a little more content even if its only like ten ppl interacting with it

So i guess like/reblog if you would be interested in either? And clarrify in the tags (or replies) which one

Thanks guys!

[afishcalledwanda1988]

thinking about the penumbra podcast and how sad i am about the direction they took with juno steel season 3-onward :// (OK THIS GOT SO LONG SO ITS BROKEN INTO PARAGRAPHS UNDER A READMORE)

like i think seasons 1 and 2 are SO good in such different ways but im so disappointed w how they handled the transition into a more ensemble-focused format. like i think first of all juno as an unreliable narrator is a big part of what makes it work and when they switched to peter once in season one (if i am remembering that correctly? its been a While) it works because it is such a fundamental disruption of the audience's perspective and highlights the chaos n confusion of our new narrator (again i might be fully misremembering this lol).

and second i hate hate hate the way they they handled (SPOILERS) the juno+peter reunion. like i remember listening to kevin talk about the desicion to not explicitly show them working out their relationship and having those convos happen 99% offscreen and he said smth to the effect of "well other people have written that scene a hundred times and anything we did wouldve been disappointing" and like ok have some confidence in ur own writing characterization lol and also i think that is a symptom of overrelation w fandom... i was in a discord server w kevin and i believe they are now going by harley and there is nothing WRONG with that but like . i am here for the story YOU are writing and while fandom / fanfic can be a great supplement you shouldnt be relying on it for fundamental characterization??? of the protagonist and his romantic interest ?????

and my final big issue i think is that they fell into i think a similar pitfall that taz:amnesty does which is the stakes become higher and higher by means of scale when that sort of shift doesnt serve the story. like it starts as a small town / big city facing internal danger but then it becomes a whole apocalypse that involves the entire world but then the stakes have to go up because you did a world-saving thing LAST season so the stakes start moving around and outside the scope of what we initially cared about and then suddenly our protag, who was initially interesting because they were so deeply tied to PLACE (kepler / hyperion city), is now this over-inflated whole-multiverse-and-all-of-existence saver. which i think can be handled well a la into the spiderverse but that depends on genre and i think sci-fi noir of episodic monster-of-the-week is just not as well suited to that kind of change as comic-book superhero.

from an audience perspective i think the solution to these problems is to either listen to season 1 as a self-contained story about two sad sad people solving a mystery that has implications beyond its internal scope but like thats not part of the story we get to see (similar to like. disco elysium's quote-unquote "bad ending"). and from the writers perspective i think some limiting of ambition was needed. i think that season three shouldve been handled very differently and also been a wrap on the juno steel story. i think a series of two-episode adventures with a juno steel narration with each adventure focusing on his relationship with a different character wouldve been one way to go about this, culminating with a climactic conversation between him and peter and maybe it works and maybe it doesnt. and then the overarching story connecting their adventures comes to an end and we leave whatever happens next open ended but the characterization in the moment of the finale is solid. but maybe thats just me.

[electrosquash]

A ll those Johnny callouts on my dash are delicious. I don't even have anything to contribute i'm just a petty hater 😎