#Sylph of Light - Heir of Space - Witch of Space - Page of Doom - and Bard of Hesrt

[starlit1daydream]

Introduction to my Classpecting Ideas

This felt like a good idea for something to put out before I put my Knight & Page analysis out there, since I plan on making this a 6 part series. (Potentially 7 if demand for a Lord/Muse addendum is high enough).

So, I'll be laying out my most important philosophies on the subject here for future reference.

Classpecting is...

Point A. Classpecting is malleable.

There is not one rigid, set definition for any Class pair, or any Aspect pairing. The freedom of the author is that they may assign any symbolism to a concept that they may like.

What I mean by this is that people often seem to think that manifestations of an Aspect within Homestuck's narrative paint that object or idea as a concept inherently tied to that Aspect.

Example: Pumpkins & Void. You would not believe the amount of people in the early fandom who swore by the idea that pumpkins were inherently just Void constructs because of their role in Homestuck's narrative.

No? Pumpkins symbolise Void in Homestuck itself and Homestuck itself only only due to a running gag inherent to Homestuck itself.

Anything, with enough narrative basis and existing thematic ties, can serve to symbolise an Aspect. Furthermore, two different authors may have different ideas of what Aspect something represents.

Some authors may see alcohol, for example, as a Void-bound concept owing to its obfuscation of fair judgement. Some may see it as a Light-bound concept owing to the idea of 'in vino veritas' and the tendency of drunkenness to induce truthful confessions. Some may see it as a Life-bound concept owing to its associations with hedonism and impulsive behaviour.

With enough narrative consistence, anything is possible. Homestuck's narrative is not as rigid of a point of reference as some people would swear by it being. This is deeply important.

Point B. Classpecting is not the whole of a character.

I can't exactly phrase this in a satisfactory manner, but... a Classpect is not a personality type in of itself. An individual being a Prince of Heart does not instantly make them Dirk Strider. It merely means that their core value is identity & selfhood, and they interact with it by destroying it. It is that simple!

I see, time and time again, Classpecting blogs acting as if a Classpect is indicative of a character's whole personality and giving guides as to the exact behaviours & quirks a character with that Classpect should have.

I am imploring you to explore wider possibilities when it comes to this. Even if it means sharing a title with a canon character! It doesn't mean you have to just rewrite that canon character because that's not how Classpecting works.

I've seen fanventure characters share titles with canon characters. (Sovereignstuck's Annomi Errata & Dynama Zarrow sharing titles with Dirk & Porrim respectively, and Porrim herself is also a player in that narrative, mind you!)

I've seen fanventure characters share titles with eachother. (Vast Error's Dismas Mersiv is a Rogue of Mind. One of my fantrolls is also a Rogue of Mind!)

In every instance, they are fundamentally different people. I cannot put it any simpler than this.

Point C. Classpecting is always applicable.

That is the perfection of the Classpecting system. You can give a title to any character, from anything ever made. It's not even that difficult if you're half-decent at media analysis!

Quite literally all you need to do is ask yourself two questions.

"What's this character's core value?" and "How do they interact with that?" Do that, and you've got yourself a Classpect.

That's the beauty of it! It's obviously not going to be as airtight as a story that has the Classpecting system baked directly into the narrative, but it's still going to work out!

Hell, do it to yourself! Do it to your friends! The world's your oyster. You can do anything you want, forever, for the rest of time. I'm a Seer of Life! My best friend is a Page of Blood! My mother is a Witch of Hope! Go wild.

Post formatting

For my Classpecting posts, I'll aim to give two related definitions for every Class.

Definition A is the narrative function, what the Class says about the person and how they interact with their Aspect as an abstract concept.

Definition B is the practical function, what the Class says about their role in the session and how they interact with their Aspect as a SBURB construct.

Therefore, we get an idea of both the abstract, personal definition of a Classpect, and the functional, game application of a Classpect.

I'll also aim to give about two or three examples for each individual title about how you could write a character with them, since there are always going to be multiple directions you can take with a Classpect.

Conclusion

tl;dr - what I'm trying to say is this. Classpecting is malleable, easily applicable & capable of saying any number of things, and my posts will aim to give two concise definitions of both narrative and practical function for every title.

I'll get the Knight:Page analysis done either today or tomorrow, and the rest of the Class posts will be staggered releases in order of poll results. Thus, the order is going to be:

Knights & Pages, Deficiency and Exploitation.

Mages & Seers, Experience and Comprehension.

Witches & Heirs, Adherence and Manipulation.

Princes & Bards, Instability and Destruction.

Thieves & Rogues, Inundation and Redistribution.

Maids & Sylphs, Maintenance and Generation.

And, potentially...

7. Lords & Muses, Absolution and Dominion.

And then, subsequently, the order for the Aspect posts, which I've decided based on relevance to the canon, roughly speaking anyways...

Space & Time, Genesis and Terminus.

Breath & Blood, Fluidity and Stability.

Light & Void, Potential and Simplicity.

Heart & Mind, Instinct and Dialectics.

Life & Doom, Progress and Stagnation.

Hope & Rage, Conviction and Iconoclasm.

I look forward to the next post. Until then, take care.

[doogieverse]

Sonic Classpects <3

I designed them to be a twelve player session because I thought that was more fun :-) I didn't necessarily keep gender specific classes/aspects in mind. Do, however, keep in mind that classpects aren't always a one-to-one with characters' personalities. Sometimes, they're roles that they have to come into, or accept.

Also, if anyone draws them in their godtier outfits I will be eternally grateful. Sonic: Heir of Hope Sonic is a symbol of hope; whether he realizes it or not, his actions carry weight. That means that although overall he inspires a positive change— bringing hope to others— if he makes a mistake, it brings despair instead. In this regard, Sonic is hope personified.

Tails: Mage of Light Tails uses knowledge as a weapon, sometimes to his detriment. He's often given seemingly impossible quests, with not much time to complete them. You could argue that he's cursed to be the brains in a team full of brawns. That being said, he seeks out knowledge like a moth drawn to a flame; he lives off of it.

Knuckles: Knight of Rage Knuckles's entire purpose is to protect and serve, both his friends and Angel Island. However, rather than being a level-headed knight archetype, Knuckles is a hot-headed warrior, thinking with his fists, rather than his brain. This leads him to have a bit of an anger problem, which he uses to mask his insecurities. This can also bring rage to those around him.

Amy: Sylph of Heart Amy is self-absorbed, only in the sense that she believes that what is in her heart is always right. Apart from that, she looks to heal the heavy hearts of those around her, even animals and complete strangers. She is caring and giving at her best, and volatile and clingy at her worst.

Metal Sonic: Page of Doom Metal Sonic was built to be a harbinger of doom, and continues to do so of his own volition. He has great potential, but is held back by his own insecurities— which can mean he was programmed with limitations, or that he has a more human side that conflicts with his programming. Because of this, he becomes doomed himself, in an infinite cycle of being destroyed and rebuilt.

Shadow: Prince of Blood Shadow is driven by his bonds, whether it's to his friends or enemies, and those in the past or those in the future. He uses these relationships as excuses to wreak havoc. Therefore, he can be seen as selfish, whether his cause is noble or not. In truth, Shadow is more stubborn than anything. Because he defines himself by his relationships, he is often misunderstood, especially by himself.

Rouge: Thief of Space Rouge is incredibly patient and adaptable, traits that are imparative for a jewel thief. Her passion is taking things for herself, which may be egocentric by nature, but she is known to have good intentions. She is naturally confident when it comes to her abilities, and isn't above using her feminine charm to accomplish her goals.

Blaze: Maid of Mind Blaze is calm and collected, weighing the multitude of options before acting. She also has this effect on others as well, getting them to see her reasoning. She is often rigid, as she's used to making the tough decisions, and carries that burden with responsibility. However, hardships can cause her to act out of character, being paralyzed by choice, or leaving her fiery temper to take over.

Silver: Witch of Time. Silver has been known to manipulate time, both figuratively and literally. While he can time travel with ease, he also has an unwillingness to take things as they are. That being said, he also has a tendency to end up in difficult and dreary situations. He's constantly stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Vector: Rogue of Breath Vector may be a detective, but he doesn't play by the book. He lives as he pleases, being able to slip into the role of leader, bodyguard, comedic relief, etc. However, this can make him hard to pin down. As a detective, he takes others' autonomy by bringing them to justice. This not only helps feed him and his partners, but it also keeps the streets clean.

Espio: Bard of Void Espio is a stealthy character, at first glance. With his ability to become invisible, he's able to stealthily gain the upper hand on his opponent. However, he also has the innate desire to show off; he's cool and he wants others to know it, even if he acts nonchalant about it. In both ways he destroys void: either by filling it or filling its role.

Charmy: Seer of Life Charmy is the charisma and joy of Team Chaotix. He wants to bring life to his friends by being upbeat and having fun. Though he may be a naïve child, he's still attuned to others' feelings, and desires to empower them best he can. He isn't always great at it, sometimes coming off as annoying and overeager instead.

[arachnidsgrippysocks]

8ehold my 8eloved little losers in their god ro8es

[heir-of-light-shenanigans]

I made a Google Sheets of every meaning I have for Classpects if anyone wants it cause I love Typology :)

[rubyharleylalonde]

Heya! I was wondering if I could get a Suitor of Rot (Witch+Heir and Life+Doom), a Prophet of Fury (Mage+Seer and Hope+Rage), a Annihilator of Bonds (Bard+Prince of Blood+Breath), a Pilferer of Soul (Rogue+Thief of Heart+Mind), a Chancellor of Stagnancy (Knight+Page of Light+Void), and a Artist of Paradox (Maid+Sylph of Time+Space)? I've been brewing up some ocs with these classpect combos :3

here are these, and superxstarzz did pilferer of soul here!

suitor of rot (witch+heir of life+doom)

prophet of fury (mage+seer of hope+rage)

annihilator of bonds (bard+prince of blood+breath)

chancellor of stagnancy (knight+page of light+void)

artist of paradox (maid+sylph of time+space)

all designed by @/superxstarzz!

[land-of-classpects-and-analysis]

Rising from my burrow to say I've been hit by a slight bit of inspiration to work on some Classpect stuff!

I worked on almost 3 whole sections of a Rogue of Void analysis yesterday, and plan on doing a little bit on Thief of Breath today!

[giftofclasspects]

Hey, could I get a session analysis with:

A Derse Page of Time (She/They)

A Prospit Heir of Blood (He/Him)

A Prospit Witch of Heart (She/Her)

A Derse Knight of Void (He/Him)

A Prospit Rogue of Hope (She/Her)

A Derse Thief of Mind (He/Him)

A Prospit Sylph of Life (She/Her)

A Prospit Mage of Rage (He/Him)

A Derse Seer of Space (She/They)

A Prospit Bard of Breath (They/Them)

A Derse Maid of Light (She/Her)

A Derse Prince of Doom (He/They)

None of them knew eachother prior to Sburb, they kinda got isekai'd into it (It's an AU)

WOO okay this is a lot so again, i'm going to be brief

a page of time is definitely a strong time player to have, however, they're going to have to grow into their powers. if they can tap into their full potential!! holy shit lotta damage

a knight of void is too cool.... i'd imagine they can like,, travel through shadows and stuff? or pull weapons out of the dark... they'll be a scary opponent they are NOT someone to fuck with

witch of heart can be SCARY!! they can manipulate the soul and the desires... i'd think of someone like makima from chainsaw man... HOO you do not want to be on their bad side!!!

a heir of blood is probably going to go around and bring the group together methinks.. INHERITING the relationships and such.

a rogue of hope might be.. very interesting??? could see them as a mean girl type. they can make or break you!!!

a mage of rage GOSH they're definitely going to be. i think they're going to be super mean and grouchy HOWEVER this will probably mellow them out as the session continues on.

a sylph of life is TOO GOOD! they're one of the best healers you can have!!! they will be ON TOP of things!!!

seer of space is TOOOO FUCKING GOOD and too cool. they'll click together nicely where the page of time might fall short.

a bard of breath is probably going to start out very "i do not see it"... they're goingto need MAJOR character development my friend

keep the maid of light on your good side they WILL be important during this session!!! once they godtier they'll just be this BEACON of knowledge and is probably why the session will go so smoothly

a prince of doom!! i think they'll almost be like.. a secondary healer? methinks i could spot a relationship between them and the sylph for sure....

[bronzecats]

BLOOD: Knight and Seer.

BREATH: Heir, Page, and Rogue.

DOOM: Heir and Mage.

HEART: Mage, Prince and Rogue.

HOPE: Bard, Page and Prince.

LIFE: Maid, Thief and Witch.

LIGHT: Seer, Sylph and Thief.

MIND: Knight and Seer.

RAGE: Bard and Prince.

SPACE: Maid, Muse, Sylph and Witch.

TIME: Knight, Lord, Maid and Witch.

VOID: Heir, Page and Rogue.

[kooki914]

Is there some Undertale/Deltarune classpect you want/can share before making a New video ?

Honestly, with how close the Deltarune release date is (and how full my plate is with other stuff) I don't mind sharing all my classpects thus far as a sort of teaser, or chance for peer review before I crack down on writing the Undertale Classpects script (which is mostly done btw, just. I don't have time to work on videos right now...)

Putting this under a readmore as is tradition.

UNDERTALE:

Toriel - Maid of Life (I will die on this hill) Papyrus - Page of Heart Sans - Bard of Time Undyne - Rogue of Hope Alphys - Witch of Void (unsure about this one) Mettaton - Maid of Light (previously had him as a mage of heart) Asgore - Sylph of Doom (I will die on this hill as well) Asriel - Knight of Hope Chara - Prince of Time (I love this one) Frisk - Heir of Space

DELTARUNE (so far, liable to change):

Kris - Thief of Breath (or witch of breath) Susie - Thief of Mind (I will die on this hill part 3) Ralsei - ???? of Void (see this bullshit for context) Noelle - Sylph of Light (potentially a maid, still undecided) Berdly - Page of Heart (potentially knight but too self centered) Lancer - Heir of Heart (the superior "heart" compared to Berdly) Rouxls - Page of Void (aka useless bitch mcgee) King - Page of Rage (aka intimidating but weak) Jevil - Witch of Hope (potentially maid? idfk) Seam - ???? of Doom (Ralsei type beat until theyre developed more) Queen - Bard of Light (siphoning off of Noelle's light in specific) Spamton - I don't even fucking know. I didn't give it much thought. I heard hope proposed? But that's also Jevil's aspect in my reading. It's still a solid maybe but I have no idea what his class would be. I don't like thinking about him so i don't know his classpect either. Maybe when we get the full game I'll actually bother classpecting him along with solidifying everyone else that's important.

If anyone reading this post has counterarguments or alternate ideas to these I'd love to hear them! And I will be keeping an eye on the replies to this post so I can keep the conversation going because I love classpecting-

[eridan-ampora-polls]

not your class? check the others here!

Maid || Page || Mage || Knight || Rogue || Sylph || Seer || Thief || Heir || Bard || Prince || Witch || Muse || Lord

[starlit1daydream]

posting my own fantroll roster's classpects with no further context.

heir of hope, page of time, witch of blood, thief of doom, seer of space, knight of rage, bard of light, rogue of mind, maid of breath, sylph of heart, prince of void

[therealmaquaroonie]

osc class/aspect headcanons/opinions

BFDI: Two: Page of Hope Pin: Mage of Blood Four: Prince of Time (Despite kinning him I cannot see him with the same classpect as me) X: Maid of (Aspect) One: Witch of Mind Winner: Thief of Void Pillow: Bard of Doom Golf Ball: Mage of Light Tennis Ball: Sylph of Breath

Inanimate Insanity: Mephone4: Seer of Doom (casually giving him my classpect bc i kin him) Mepad: (Class) of Space Paintbrush: Knight of Rage Lightbulb: (Class) of Hope Baseball: (Class) of Blood Test Tube: Mage of Light Fan: Sylph of Heart Orange Juice: Heir of Heart Paper: Sylph of Hope EP/Looseleaf/Ripper: (Class) of Rage Bot: (Class) of Heart Candle: Witch of Mind Yin: Mage of Hope Yang: Prince of Rage Steve Cobs: Lord of Mind Dr.Fizz: Maid of Life Zoetrope: Rouge of Space

HFJONE: Backpack/Liam: Seer of Doom (Again, gave him my classpect bc i kin him) Soda Bottle/Bryce: Maid(?) of Time Moldy/Charlotte: Thief of Hope Airy: Heir of Space

[thepain2]

My homestuck class redesigns :P

From left to right, pic 1: rogue of heart, thief of light, page of breath

pic 2: knight of blood, prince of hope, bard of rage, heir of void,

pic 3: witch of life, seer of mind, mage of doom, maid of time

pic 4: sylph of space, muse of me, lord of airpods

[rambunctious-cr0w]

HOMESTUCK CLASSPECTS OF STORMLIGHT ARCHIVE CHARACTERS

In no particular order, some light Wind and Truth spoilers ahead

Szeth: Page of Mind. The most mind-coded character of all time. His arc entirely surrounds decisions, autonomy, and justice. He struggles with a lack of nuance when making decisions. If there’s one thing about pages it’s untapped potential; obviously Szeth has always been incredibly powerful in combat, but his ability to make strong moral decisions varies WILDLY across his past and the events of Wind and Truth.

Kaladin: Sylph of Breath. Breath is maybe a little trite of a pick, but it just works. He leads by example and finds equality important. He heals his own and other’s freedom, both literally (in freedom from slavery) and metaphorically (in his more recent therapy arc, healing people from a psychological lack of freedom imposed by mental struggles and harmful ideology)

Shallan: Bard of Heart. She literally has splinters. Her confused relationship to the self facilitates her capacity for violence, and her arc culminates with her literally killing (someone disguised as) an aspect of herself. The growth of her radiant powers allows her to manifest aspects of herself in combat. But, importantly, she’s passive in relation to her self, and it often dominates her. 

Adolin: Knight of Blood. With Maya and the armorspren, he literally wields his friends as a weapon. 

Taravangian: Mage of Mind. Decisions, autonomy, and justice are all important. Back when he was oscillating in intelligence, he was kinda dealing with splinters in a mind way rather than a heart way. Very active and controlling in his decisions. 

Dalinar: Knight of Time. He unapologetically wields domination as a weapon and isn’t one to fuck around, but does so in service of others.

Galivar: Prince of Time. Same thing as Dalinar, but causing far more destruction and shortens peacetime.

Navani: Witch of Space. Patient and lacking in autonomy when she was with Galivar, and similarly patient and careful during the tower siege. Remains generally positive.

Jasnah: Seer of Light. This is a pretty clear one I think. Knowledge, etc.

The power of honor: Muse of Blood. Has an absolute commitment to social bonds, but is near completely passive for the events of the story.

The power of Odium: Lord of Rage. Emotion, rage, and maximal activity and involvement in the story. 

Wit: Muse of Hope. Emotion is important to wit, and he projects a sort of surface-level confidence that I associate with hope. He’s concerned with reality and shaping it in fundamental ways, another hope trait. Generally stays behind the scenes, but is immensely powerful.

Sigzil: Knight of Light. He uses knowledge as a weapon.

Renarin: Heir of Doom. Doom inverts life, signifying his awkward relationship with his position in social hierarchy. He has prophesies of the future and misunderstood by society, both doom traits. He is generally passive but has huge plot importance. 

Moash: Bard of Rage. He’s an angry guy.

Venli: Maid of Void. She served the voidbringers and facilitated void’s return, but not fully willingly. Complex and full of contradictions.

[psychosophy]

Enneagram and MBTI Classpecting

I would like to start off that this is PURELY FOR FUN !!! Do not use this as an actual way to classpect yourself, this is just me throwing my interests into a pot and stirring them up LoL

OK NOW THAT THAT'S BEEN SAID:

Classes are based off of enneagram, since enneagrams are basically your biggest flaws/sins, the class you're assigned is meant to be your downfall and meant to challenge you in some way.

You are going to need to know your instinctual variant and enneagram type for this, but IV really only matters if you're a countertype

Down here is the guide on what is what, there is 4 different choices for each enneagram, specifically 2 wings, 1 encompassing the entire number itself (in case you feel like your wing isn't very prominent) and one for the enneagram countertype. If you are the countertype, this will override your wing anyway so you'll be the countertype class!

1w9: Sylph

1: Prince

1w2: Maid

Sx1: Bard

2w1: Prince

2: Maid

2w3: Bard

Sp2: Sylph

3w2: Page

3: Thief

3w4: Knight

Sp3: Rogue

4w3: Thief

4: Knight

4w5: Rogue

Sp4: Page

5w4: Heir

5: Seer

5w6: Witch

Sx5: Mage

6w5: Seer

6: Heir

6w7: Mage

Sx6: Witch

7w6: Knight 

7: Thief

7w8: Page

So7: Rogue

8w7: Maid

8: Prince

8w9: Sylph

So8: Bard

9w8: Mage

9: Heir

9w1: Seer

So9: Witch

Example of typing using this system, I was Sp7 with a high 8 wing, this means I'd be a Page!

Now onto aspects! Aspects are basically what encompasses you wholely, so I thought MBTI (specifically cognitive functions) would make the most sense to be used here since that encompasses how you think!

Each type is broken into either perceiving functions (ne/se/ni/si) or judging functions (fe/te/fi/ti). If you feel like you are DEFINITELY an extroverted perceiver (eg you know you're either Se/Ne, but don't know which one) then you'd choose the extroverted perceiving function !

Ne: Time 

Ni: Doom

Se: Life

Si: Space

Extroverted Perceiving: Light

Introverted Perceiving: Void

Fe: Blood

Fi: Heart

Te: Mind

Ti: Breath

Extroverted Judging: Rage

Introverted Judging: Hope

Using this system, I am somewhere between Ne and Se, making me an extroverted perceiver, therefore I'm a light player!

And combining the two, I am a Page of Light!

[giftofclasspects]

Session analysis? If its not too much trouble

This is actually 2 sessions, with the first one being scratched and the second one getting help from the first one (similar to the beta kids and alpha kids in canon homestuck)

Scratched Session:

Seer of Space, Sylph of Time, Rogue of Rage, Page of Light, Witch of Doom, Knight of Void

New Session:

Mage of Mind, Heir of Hope, Maid of Breath, Bard of Heart, Prince of Blood, Thief of Life

SoS is the ancestor of MoM, SoT is the anscestor of HoH, and so on

Thank You!

Sylph of time can mend time and the seer of space might have a tool that helps them look where to go. page of light takes time developing their knowledge talent, knight of void can use and defend the unknown to balance out the page, and the rogue of rage might work as like an inspiration factor to get the scratched session mad about something. Session fails at first but a few extra stitches in time could lead to the scratch.

Bard of heart and prince of blood in the same session might be something to be wary of. they'd destroy feelings and social ties, so everyone in the group might have to separate to get things done. But given the scratched players coming back, it's possible to work it out