#Suicide Priest
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Jason Todd was voted back then to be killed, only for him to return as one of the most beloved Robin's, is iconic tbh
#jason todd#dc#batman#bruce wayne#dc comics#red hood#dc universe#comic#And him not having consistent characteristics bcs writers today have no idea what to do with him#they're like#“ykw? today your a priest”#“today you're the arkham knight”#“today you're a ninja/assassin”#“today you're a ginger in arkham asylum”#imagine ginger jason being part of a suicide squad#but without the joker#and just for shit and giggles#imagine they have to work with the JL
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Innokenti & Tomassin - The Wyld-Knight & The Sparrow Priest
Weary Innokenti, knight of the Wood, marauder, carouser, apostate faerie-thing:
Unhappy Tomassin, half-heavenly mistake, defiled, tormented, gentle beyond all measuring:
Poisoned by grief, bereft of your God and your Other, and denied the sacred order which was promised to you at the moment of your creation:
Struck silent by horror, unwanted by God, harrowed and abused and brought into this world to die:
Self-exiled from your home, to this alien place -
Chained to your flesh, in this alien place -
So hopeless, so desolate, so interminable is your existence:
So hopeless - so desolate - so interminable is your existence -
Perhaps, now, unexpectedly, like sunlight breaking through the brooding trees -
Perhaps, somehow, however undeserving you may be -
A kindness?
A mercy?
Soft footsteps have intruded upon the barren country of your heart, and around his feet the flowers grow.
Clever footfalls are heard within the empty cathedral of your heart, and it makes you wonder if it's anything like music.
He is nothing like you.
He is nothing like you: thank God.
You take his hand.
May God forgive you, as you let him take your hand.
#Innokenti and Tomassin had known each other for years but never really interacted because#you know#one was a whoring hard-drinking suicidally reckless faerie-knight and a dedicated pagan#and the other was the quiet gentle self-effacing castle priest who would rather die than inflict pain upon anyone#But Bastian (for his own reasons) turned them to face each other#and both of them were astonished at the like-heartedness they found#Bastian's plan to seduce them both was put on hold as they unexpectedly stumbled into each other#and it's been so good for both of them that now Bastian would kill anyone who tried to come between them#heretic#dice matters
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thinking about how expectant of her own death scully always was, but how completely struck by shock she was in mulder’s, despite how clear it had always been that he would one day die for the cause. tragedy in the x-files as something you should have been prepared for, but never could be, in scully standing at a funeral, as her mother had stood at her father’s, and barely being able to speak. she should be able to do this? bred to be a war widow, attached to an endless line. but no matter how many times she saw him put that gun to himself, or run off in front of another, she really did believe that he would always come back. she really did believe that there would never be a day where he didn’t just appear in the doorway again.
#‘oh my god you’re so naive / you’ll leave this world in a drunken heap / who’ll make the arrangements baby / them or me?’#oh father john misty we’re really in it now#that song (‘please don’t die’) has been discussed RE: msr before but it’s that ‘who’ll make the arrangements?’ line that sticks with me#in the song it’s from his wife’s point of view in his addiction/suicidality. how he’s always running off with ‘reptilian strangers.’#but it always makes me think of scully standing at that funeral and saying….he was the last one.#his sister is GONE. his mother is gone. his father is gone.#and that realization of…she had to plan that funeral. the flowers and the people and the priest and the grave.#she’s pregnant and she’s alone and he ran off after someone else or some answers as he always does. but who will make the arrangements?#in that moment at the funeral when skinner says….but he’s NOT the last one…..#she has to keep going because he’s left her this baby she’s carrying. and she is so ill-equipped and she carries so much perceived shame.#her mother did it. her mother WOULDVE done it- had ahab not come home one day. the women on the base she grew up on did it.#and anyone in the world could’ve told you that she would have to do it one day- no matter how many years she spends chasing after him#as he jumps onto moving trains or pulls the trigger on his own head or runs to the arctic#but she never actually thought she would. and now she’s realizing that she can’t.#and she’s planning a funeral and decorating a nursery at the same time and she is ‘just not capable’#txf.txt
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Let's hit the next person insisting Tolkien was a far right conservative Catholic who hates minorities with the good old "Quenya has documented words for both penis and cum".
#silmarillion#tolkien#quenya#quenya langblr#lotr#silm fandom#he was conservative but not against minorities for the most part and he argued for the depiction of maedhros' suicide to a priest soo
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#hazbin hotel oc#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel fanart#my art.#furry artist#furry art#digital art#digital artist#anthro art#I love him a lot. He’s a priest that left the faith and committed suicide#only to learn that heaven and hell is real and he fucked up
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SIMON BAZ + CALLING JESSICA CRUZ “JESS” in JUSTICE LEAGUE (2016)
#simon baz#jessica cruz#is it a mark of the writer not centralizing their dynamic that he calls her Jessica so much? 👀#also I purposely skipped one ‘Jess’ in the priest one cause I just can’t look at those arcs anymore…#and the last panel is from justice league vs suicide squad but yknow#simon x jessica#simonjess#justice league 2016#how or why they have so few interactions in 43 issues of being teammates is crazy to me#and the way Jessica & Simon are written in Priest’s run…..#uhhhh uhhh#*panelsandpages
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tonight's family reunion in a nutshell
my father: hi hello is everyone aware that my mother's dying
my brother: have y'all heard about the old woman who hanged herself from the balcony? here's the picture
my uncle: oh her neck probably snapped right away, she didn't even suffocate. i had an uncle who was in auschwitz for two years. he got alzheimer, made a nice little stool with the right measurements and hanged himself.
#if you think im morbid and suicidal 24/7 you haven't met these absolute catholic freaks#actually my conspiracy theory about my hometown is that everyone is secretly suicidal here#everyone can name off the top of their heads at least 10 people who lived here who killed themselves#and for some reason the priests here allow catholic funerals for suicides. so it's all cool with the big guy upstairs 👍👍👍👍
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About Jason McConnell being a bad boyfriend and a bad person, that probably is something that people will still be saying...even though we're all so much more progressive and enlightened than audiences 20 years ago... right?
Right, fandom? Right?
[ screenshot of excerpt from this interview
JENNA LEIGH GREEN: The focal point of Bare is the relationship between Peter and Jason, but a lot of the fans have taken a very personal stance to the characters. On the message boards, I read things like, “I don’t understand Ivy; she’s just there to break the two boys up!” Some of the fans who’ve come to the show numerous times have never spoken to me. Not a word!
JOHN HILL: On the other hand, there are people who see Ivy as the focal character and think that Jason is the villain.
MICHAEL ARDEN: I think the writers have done a wonderful job in making sure that all of the characters have good intentions. That’s why it’s easy to identify with them. Even the priest is doing what he believes to be best. It’s hard to cast blame on any of these people. ]
I didn't understand Jason as a character (and that showed up when I was inspired to try to write fanfiction after watching the show, but then when I got to trying to write Jason part of my brain went "nope" because I didn't know what to do with him, I don't understand what goes on in there) but I definitely understood why he's like that for the story, because sometimes characters are vehicles to get a story told. Obviously: when the community around young queer people is accepting and emotionally supportive, then they're less likely to be miserable and so less likely to suicide. When the community isn't accepting and emotionally supportive, lacks proper guidance and is homophobic instead, then that can lead to a tragedy. If the take-away message after the show instead is, yeah we should have more homophobic religions and schools, so that then it weeds out the jerkfaces like Jason Jerkface McConnell...then I think we have a problem, and it's not the story that the show was telling. Sure people can project their unresolved personal issues with their ex or the patriarchy or whatever onto him, but if we drop the anchor there at hating on him, or blaming the creators for not writing somebody more sympathetic to our standards before framing his death as some tragedy (as though it can't work as a tragedy unless he's beyond Simon Spier or Charlie Spring levels of saintly)...I think that's missing out on a meaningful part of the story.
I keep saying that each person should have their feelings about a thing and a space to voice it, especially when it's about interpretations of a fiction, because it's (usually) more interesting why a person has the interpretation that they do, instead of prejudging their character based on their interpretation...but also some interpretations are flat-out wrong and I'm actually not interested in why when it's this egregiously wrong that Jason McConnell is nothing more than a jerkface whose face is a jerk.
I didn't "get" Jason as a character at first, but when I tried to understand then it turned out everything he did made sense for the way he was in the situation that he was in. People can do that with fictional characters too sometimes. We can try.
#Bare: a Pop Opera#bapo#Jason McConnell#i think Jason's reluctance to come out and Represent has gotten a kinder reframing since the real-life suicide of Tyler Clementi in 2010#but that doesn't have to mean that automatically PETER gets to be the villain here#we can examine Peter's part in that tragedy and there can be something solemnly society-improving in there#or even personally cathartic if the version an audience member watched was too imposing somehow about Peter never having done anything wron#in his life ever#...but I definitely think it's not good media analysis to default to who should get the blame. it's homophobia. homophobia killed jason.#homophobia made ivy into a beard#homophobia makes matt into that#homophobia made the priest into that#it's been 25 years there's a lot i still find valuable about this show but#the opportunity to piss on Jason McConnell's grave is not one of those things i find valuable#it's been 25 years he was a high school boy & felt so bad about what he did that he DIED ...can we forgive him yet? it's been 25 years!
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On July 16, 1990, the trial against Judas Priest began, for the event that occurred on December 23, 1985, when the young Raymond Belknap, 18, and James Vance, 20, starred in one of the bloodiest stories of the time.
Both friends spent six hours drinking, smoking weed and listening to Judas Priest's Stained Class record. After that, the young men took a shotgun and decided to commit suicide. Belknap died instantly, while Vance survived, though losing much of his face before passing in 1988. The defense of families soon found a culprit: Judas Priest and his subliminal messages that incited violence.
Victims' relatives sued CBS Records for $6.2 million in damages. Five years later, in August 1990, the trial's sentence sowed high global expectation as it would create jurisprudence, affecting other bands whose lyrics were targeted for their aggression. “It’s a very, very interesting subject, belonging to psychology. But I had no idea. I was just a fucking lead singer of a heavy metal band. We were baffled by some of the things that came out of that courtroom,” Halford added.
In their favor, the band had the result of other trials where musicians were shielded by enforcing the First Amendment to the Constitution, which guarantees free speech in the United States. Despite that, years earlier, Judge Jerry Whitched had signed a sentence in 1988 explaining that the First Amendment did not protect them from their messages.
Halford recalls all that month that they had to move to America. “We were in court from 9:00 to 17:00 hours, every day for a month. We're staying outside Reno to get away from the press. (... ) There we were wondering why are we here? We are British metal musicians and we are going to have to defend our music and our fans about the absurd, ridiculous accusations that we put those kinds of messages in our music to kill them,” the artist reported. Nearly 30 days later, on August 24, 1990 Judas Priest was acquitted of office.
In a 100-page sentence and with more than 40 witnesses consulted, Judge Whitched ruled that families could not prove the hidden subliminal messages. Today, the musician reveals: "I really wanted to go to the mothers and give them a hug, tell them 'I'm sorry for the loss of their children.' "Let's have coffee and talk about this," but he avoided doing it because there was a whole network of people behind them, "a kind of infiltration of extreme Christian groups urging them to proceed with the case."
About the trial itself, Halford claimed he and his teammates felt relieved, albeit disappointed. "(The judge) didn't say resoundingly 'what the prosecution was suggesting didn't happen', but basically said: "Look, this is still a foggy area, this band didn't put these words in the song and those words didn't create this tragedy." (... ) The whole thing of subliminal messages was left in limbo. It would be awful to think that this could happen again, but we just have to wait,” he concluded.
#judaspriest #judaspriestband #judaspriestfans #robhalford #glenntipton #kkdowning #daveholland #ianhill
#judas priest#blamed for suicide#framed for suicide#stained class album#july 16th 1990#december 23rd 1985#raymond belknap#james vance#first amendment#constitution#freedom of speech#august 24 1990#rob halford#judge jerry whitched
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Fleabag is stronger than me cause if I woke up and fancied a priest I'd simply kill myself
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Has anybody ever comitted sucide by getting struck by lightning? You know, purposefully go outside during storm with a metal bucket and yell at god.
#tw suicide mention#this vision just came up to me yesterday#this actually happened to my mom's cousin but he lived#he's a priest#he's got a crucifix-shaped scar on his chest bc of a metled pentant#pretty metal
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cdda will have you sayin shit like “i hope i find a vibrator soon. I need the morale boost”
#my miserable little apocalypse priest is bordering on suicidal rn T_T i have so many batteries but nothing for them#cdda
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#from an anonymous priest writing for the furrow journal#the article is simply called “suicide”; available on jstor for free
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Sad to see this..
#simple man#manliness#simple life#traditional gender roles#christian manhood#traditional manhood#chivalry#tradblr#traditional man#gentleman#men are kings#men are priests#men are builders#seek truth#seek beauty#seek strength#pro patriarchy#patriarchy#male suicide#male depression
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listening to "hive" rn and. "i'm not one of those fools who chase fractals" DIDN'T THAT BUILDER GUY'S DAD WHO WAS SCHOZOPHRENIC AND KILLED HIMSELF COVER EVERYTHING IN FRACTALS IS THIS RELATED?????
#i dont think im reaching too far given that that builder or whatever uh. had lots of weird things tied to his whole thing#including the priest that. yeah#suicide mention#tma#a biscuit's rambles
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I HAVE REQUIRED RECONCILIATION TMRW IM GOING TO FUCKING KMS
#THEY DONT EVEN PUT DIVIDERS BETWEEN YOU AND THE PRIEST#JUST GOTTA LOOK AT HIM DIRECTLY IN THE EYES AND BE LIKE “YEAH IDK I SINNED OR WHATEVER”#tw suicide
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