#Star Trek VI

[trek-tracks]

Just let him save them :(

[wwillywonka]

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Star Trek IV: The Undiscovered Country (1991): dir. Nicholas Meyer

You're a great one for logic. I'm a great one for rushing in where angels fear to tread. We are both extremists. Reality is probably somewhere in between.

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[frogayyyy]

the undiscovered country script (fifth draft)

@firstofficerkittycat

[old-type-40]

It occurred to me recently that many who have become part of the Trek fandom over the last few decades are unaware that this comment from Spock about the events in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country preceded the release of the movie by a month. And at the time, the reaction of Trekkies was, "WAIT!! WHAT?!"

[starship21zedna9]

I'm not even that big of a spirk shipper but I hate seeing them have a tiff in The Undiscovered Country. Makes me sad.

[spockvarietyhour]

Captain, they're coming about.

Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country &

Star Trek: Picard "Imposters"

[rizz-penguin]

I don't think The Undiscovered Country was supposed to make me cry as much as it did.

[nocternalrandomness]

”Leaving Khitomer”

[scherzokinn]

idc what anyone says I LOVED Star Trek VI

[trek-tracks]

They are having a slumber party, only without the party or the slumber

[wwillywonka]

i always thought the forced mind meld scene in undiscovered country was out of place and, more importantly, wildly out of character for spock. i think that's the general consensus from the fandom as well, but i also feel like not a lot of people have actually seen this movie or thought deeply about it considering the lack of analysis i've been able to find on it. but the more i think about it, the more it makes so much sense that spock would do something that extreme all in the name of protecting not only jim and the enterprise crew but starfleet as well. jim even says it to him later in the film, "we're both extremists," and spock wonders if they're so used to falling into roles and routines around each other that they've lost the ability to combat something completely different and unique that might come along to challenge them. it is this predictably that valeris was able to use to manipulate him, to get him to trust her, to get him to help her rise in rank in starfleet. because he saw her as everything he could never be: a full vulcan, completely and totally logical and dedicated to her work, without emotional attachment. of course he doesn't regret his friendships with the enterprise crew but still, there is a small part of him that will forever want to be more vulcan. we know that from unification. how long did spock know valeris? all the way back to her first academy days? how long was she his student, his favorite student? how much time and effort did he put into helping her, all the while blind to her ulterior motives? how the hell is he supposed to trust his own judgement now?

she's destroyed the sanctity of starfleet, the place spock escaped to as a teenager to find inner peace and purpose, the place that has given him a home and friends and people who trust him, who would follow him into anything if he asked.

and now he's become a danger to the enterprise crew. he's become a danger to jim and leonard.

and so, the forced mind meld scene comes not from anger towards valeris alone but a deep anger towards himself. and in his anger and his shame at being angry in the first place and his shame for feeling that shame, of course he would do anything to protect his friends, even if it means violating and sullying the most important ritual in vulcan culture.

it's still horrible, he still shouldn't have done it. but it makes so much sense in the wider context of his character and thus makes for a strong and effective plot choice.

[cryptocollectibles]

Star Trek VI Undiscovered Country #1 (1991) by DC Comics

Written by Peter David, drawn by Gordon Purcell and Arne Starr.

[sapsuckers-and-stardust]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Star Trek, Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek: The Original Series (Movies) Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: James T. Kirk/Spock Characters: James T. Kirk, Spock (Star Trek), Leonard "Bones" McCoy, Nyota Uhura Additional Tags: Old Married James T. Kirk/Spock, Old Married Couple, Slow Dancing, Stargazing, Nostalgia, Flirting, Flirty James T. Kirk, Fluff, Movie: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991), Post-Movie: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991) Summary:

As the crew of the Enterprise make their final voyage back to spacedock, Jim and Spock find themselves watching the stars on the observation deck.

[old-type-40]

Way back when I first saw this movie in the theaters (I'm an old Trekkie), this statement from Spock caught me by surprise. I had always assumed he meant Sherlock Holmes. But I've noticed over the years that some in the Trek fandom here in the Tumblrverse wonder if Spock meant Arthur Conan Doyle.

Nope! He meant Holmes as confirmed by writer/director Nicholas Meyer in a recent interview at the TrekMovie site (x). Here's what Meyer said:

"[Leonard Nimoy] paid me a great compliment. He said I knew how to write Spock. In a way, I sort of modeled it a lot on Sherlock Holmes. And I write Sherlock Holmes novels. And if you know how to write Sherlock, then you’ll know how to write Spock because they’re very similar. And in fact, in Star Trek VI, I had Spock claim descent from Sherlock."

And it's the 50th anniversary of the Meyer novel The Seven Percent Solution in which Holmes' cocaine addiction has left him paranoid and delusional. Watson believes that a psychiatrist named Sigmund Freud may be Holmes' only hope for salvation.

[starship21zedna9]

Having said that, Undiscovered Country is a really good movie. I love Final Frontier for sentimental, totally subjective, McSpirk based reasons. But TUC is a way better movie. Solid plot. Good mystery. Good character work (except Uhura not knowing Klingon. Why'd they do her dirty like that?).

Of course Spock was never going to just leave Kirk and Bones to live the rest of their lives on a frozen prison planet. Never. And Kirk knew that Spock would save them. Bless.

Captain Sulu is amazing and George Takei put his all into it. I love that even with his own ship and crew, he's still fiercely loyal to the Enterprise crew and does what he can to protect them without a second of hesitation.