#Sovereign Citizen

[victoriadallonfan]

Sovereign Citizen Cape

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[eyesmadeofpearls]

Hot take: Sovereign citizenship isn’t a stupid idea and it’s not a “white supremacist republican” ideology. The whole argument made against people who identify as a sovereign citizen is basically just “You don’t understand common laws, you’re one of those crazy redneck conspiracy theorists who believe in lizard people, and you didn’t pass high-school.” and it’s pretty much just all stereotypes. People who think SovCits are ‘crazy’ usually also follow up with “Who would you call if your house burnt down? Checkmate!” And i swear it just makes me want to bash my head into the nearest wall.

The point of being a sovereign citizen isn’t just being pessimistic and living off grid, The government quite literally has *always* been corrupt, like there is no doubt about it. From MK ultra, denying the people of north carolina medical assistance and aid after the hurricane, starting wars over oil and bombing schools, to blatant classism and pollution of the earth, all of these are tell tale signs of a corrupt government. And did i mention yet that if you even *try* to protest any of this bullshitery they just make it illegal to do so and will proceed to set a curfew down on your city? No? Well now i have.

The truth is, nobody wants to spend their lives as a modern slave working away until they retire at 60 just to pay to be able to live. I mean, there is literally a tax for trying to collect free rain water as if the government owns it. On top of this, there are never fruit trees out on your sidewalks because free food is bad for our made up green slips of easily tearable paper. Why? Because supposedly homeless people need to starve unless they can pay money to grocery store cashiers who’s money then goes into taxes which then goes to the government and then goes to something stupid like more military funding. Great, just what we need!

Believe me, if we citizens had it our way, we *would* be self reliant. Unfortunately you cant just go out and make random roads, build random houses, or have random farms without the government showing up to tear it down or ask for your shares. I can think of plenty of ways on why people would continue medical aid without incentive. In fact, here’s one right now for you; Maybe because it’s just the right thing to do? And another: Some people find medical work fascinating and want to pursue it just because. Surprise! There are other ways to do society right instead of forcing labor. Also, if you aren’t a nurse, surgeon, psychiatrist, therapist, dietitian, physician, care taker, pediatrician, or dentist, you cant exactly go around helping people without a degree and job in it.

So no, i don’t think not wanting to do taxes, living off of the grid, and rejecting the governments brutalist and greedy way of doing things is “white supremacist republican redneck shit”.

Edit: Nobody asks to be born into a corrupt country. Why should they need to follow its laws if they don't want to? It’s not a “lack” of understanding, It’s the want of freedom. You cant just move anywhere you want, set up camp, and be done.

[godlessondheimite]

sovereign citizen shit is like the one form of brainrot i completely do not understand because all other conspiracy mindsets rest on not being provable or disprovable, no matter how insane it is you can do mental gymnastics to justify it but sovereign citizen stuff is like…you tell a cop “you can’t arrest me” and then he arrests you

[skylarkking]

Do yall think cybertronians have sovereign citizens? Or something similar?

[lesbian-war-criminal]

i know most sovereign citizen people are asshat karens and shit who don't like the consequences of their actions. but like, its so based to me, like "Nuh uh i'm not a U.S citizen so laws don't apply to me"

[2022dirt]

License plates used by sovereign citizens.

Sovereign citizens are individuals who hold the belief that they are exempt from certain laws and government regulations, including vehicle registration.

[garthnadermemestash]

defund trump

[grabhanem]

just realized the whole sovereign citizen argument is basically verbatim the fantasy trope about everyone having a secret true name that gives people power over you and that the fae try to steal

[mightyflamethrower]

[wealmostaneckbeard]

So this Vem Miller guy believes the United States government is bullshit while also believing that Donald Trump is the savior of this country and the 2nd amendment gives him the right to travel anywhere with loaded fire arms... none of this is surpising given that he's apparently a Sovereign Citizen. Which is a political movement based around the idea that there are videogame-like secret cheat codes to USA law that one can use to get out of any trouble. Which can only be taught by uncertified legal scholars for a nominal fee. Just like how only Donald Trump can save the USA which is why everyone has to give him money...

[hellsdaydreamwastaken]

Just found out about this particular iteration of "Sovereign Citizen" legalese that seems to suggest that trans people are automatically above the law because the identity we go by is different to what's on our birth certificates, and you know what - I think I can actually get behind this one!

[pricklylittleloaf]

Sovereign Citizens: Pseudolaw & Disorder Video Essay by Münecat

Excuse me no I opt out of slavery thankyou taraa then byeee

[paddysnuffles]

The #1 most confusing thing about sovereign citizen mentality

"I'm not a US citizen, US laws don't apply to me!"

You still have to follow the rules of places you're visiting even if you're not a citizen. Hell, you need to be even MORE careful because you're not as familiar with the rules and you may not have the same rights as citizens.

In fact, non-citizens of the US do NOT have the same protections as USAmericans while on American soil. It's in the US constitution.

Meanwhile, Canadian SovCits try to use the American constitution in Canada, as if US laws and rights apply to Canada...

[sixbucks]

Contender for state Republican Party chair is a QAnon all-star

Dunklin’s belief in QAnon has played into her own custody fight with her ex-husband over their daughter. Dunklin has filed bizarre, sovereign citizen-style documents describing herself as a “Woman by the calling of Sarah.” She also sent rambling emails to her ex-husband’s attorney and her former mother-in-law about QAnon, McConnell, and Holmseth, who is himself wanted on a warrant for allegedly violating a restraining order.

Dunklin has claimed that her daughter is surveilled at all times by a U.S. Space Force ship with an invisibility cloak and said the day she received her Children’s Crusade position was one of her proudest. In July, a disheveled Dunklin appeared at family court clutching a dirty piece of women’s clothing and frightening a court employee who worried Dunklin might attack her, according to a sworn affidavit from a court clerk.

[lutskastudio]

Enlightenment is when the expression of LOVE supersedes the desire for TRUTH.

~ R. Grant

[enormous-moose]

I've been doing some philosophical thinking here after reading a bunch of lame ass defense tactics that people have tried while representing themselves in court 🙄

Here me out:

Dress codes stem from a belief that an invisible man in the sky who is all knowing and all powerful didn't know that a woman he created would eat something off a tree and because an evil snake this invisible man also created told her to.

I have two concerns:

1) why aren't Christians more environmentally conscious especially when it comes to fruit trees.

2) dress codes should be banned because of religious freedom and if someone emposes their dress code belief on you, your religious freedom is being compromised.

My point:

I think literally every single fucking law can be argued as anti religious freedom. Because of this I am able to tie in the sovereign citizen belief into a matter of religion rather than principal and rebellion against the system which is **technically** a stronger defense.

My finer point:

Should this be argued with validity because without laws we have idiotic misinterpretations based on the fundamental system rather than the reactive judicial system that make people believe they can get away with not following the law.

My conclusion: the "sovereign citizen" defense should be renamed to "I deliberately and maliciously misinterpreted the law in an attempt to get my own way because I'm a fundamental dumbass" defense. I have yet to find one good case study where the sovereign citizen defense has been used by a legitimately good person and not by some wackadoodle who wants to get away with being a fucking criminal.