#Source: Trixie and Katya

[incorrectsilvercyclopsquotes]

Peter: Okay, well, what about this new linguistic discovery that I made in Chicago?

Scott: *staring intently*

Peter: What the sigma?

Peter: He’s got a level ten rizz.

Peter: No cap.

Scott: Oh! The youths, yeah.

Peter: Gen Alpha. 

Peter: Gen Alphaaaa. 

Scott: *gasps* Is that after Z?

Peter: Yessssss!

[incorrect-republic-of-doyle]

Des: If I turned into a zombie would you shoot me?

Jake: Immediately. Without thinking

[bruciemilf]

Matt Reeves has the potential to give us the funniest comedic duo with Martinez and Bruce.

Martinez, bored out of his mind, sipping on his Barbie ice coffee: Gun to your head, would you rather kiss Joker or Riddler?

Bruce, who wanted a barbie drink too but was too awkward to order: Gun to my head? Pull the trigger

Martinez: wh E E Z E

[incorrect-tmnt2012-quotes]

Leo: What’s the straightest thing you’ve ever done? Karai: I killed a guy.

[roxy206]

Stoppppppp

hat tip trixiescrown | original source unknown

[sepko1]

dude i'm so sorry if you're not the one that made this but i'm desperately trying to find an sfm of gordon and barney listening to these soldiers talking and they go "i hate straight people" or something? i think it's a trixie and katya clip. again i'm so sorry if you're not the one that made this and feel free to drag me into the street and shoot me like a dog

It was me you shall be spared this day

[jellybeanium124]

Lucius: Now, it's your wedding. Any "Do Not Play" songs? Stede: Ohhhhh. We gotta do "The Chicken Dance." Lucius: You hate "The Chicken Dance?" Stede: No, we gotta do it. Lucius: Oh so that's a "Must Play." Stede: I was gonna do it at my birthday party... but I chickened out

[northforwinter]

Weiss: Well what's the straightest thing you've ever done?

Yang: *deep sigh, thinking*

Yang: I killed a guy

[roomfullofhampires]

Arthur: Mary, I spent 13 hours on Etsy

[isolemnlyswearimuptonomarauding]

James: So not that it's a competition but... what have you been doing?

Peter: You know, I've been laying down a lot. Yeah...you're the doer I'm the...not doer.

James: In life there's like doers and there's talkers–

Peter: See I don't like to talk either.

James: Right...

Peter: I don't like to do or talk. I just be.

James: Yeah.

Peter: I'm just very existential.

James: You're ambitious but also not actually aspiring–

Peter: No no no.

James: Not even that?

Peter: Not even that. Don't put words in my mouth.

[danganronpafakes]

Chihiro: Well, to be honest, I love Christmas, but my boyfriend's Jewish and I get better Hanukkah presents.

Source: I Like to Watch ("Drag Queens Trixie Mattel & Katya React to Dolly Parton's Christmas on the Square")

[they-them-that]

The Complex Misogyny Enacted by Queer Men

Call outs: James Somerton, Trixie Mattel, Katya, Le'Ron Readus, The Roundtable, Rupaul, Karl Lagerfeld, Dolce and Gabana

With the James Somerton scandal, although I only watched some of his videos in passing, it has definitely made me make sure to be more vigilant about the content I consume and how they source.

I also want to address James' misogyny, something that tragically isn't unique to him. The "straight girl" scapegoat many queer men target has bothered me for a long time. They try to frame it in a way that is "punching up" at the privileged but their problem is entirely against them being women. Trixie Mattel has a habit of complaining about "straight" girls that has put me off, especially when her complaints are incredibly presumptuous and small minded. We wouldn't know random women's sexuality yet we choose to assume they're straight so we can openly ridicule them. Even if these women are straight, the problems queer men levy towards them doesn't so much call out any discriminatory behavior as it is shaming women for what they think is "shrill", "annoying", or just for sharing a space with them.

I recall an episode of UNHhhh where Trixie and Katya said how straight people are guests in queer spaces and in the same way, they can be "uninvited". Even though they use a gender neutral term here, we know that the bulk of straight people who attend queer events are women. In the same way that queer spaces are a safe space for gay men, it's also a safe space for women who want to avoid sexual advancements and sexual violence. Gay men overlook women's issues and needs when they find their presence inconvenient despite women posing little threat to them.

I've also seen the way queer men target queer women when they feel like they've been benefiting more than them. James Somerton, La'Ron Readus, and Tom from The Roundtable have all argued how the ratio of wlw representation in media compared to mlm is due to favouritism towards wlw relationships. This is a pure assumption, at the point they made this argument, we never heard of a canon mlm relationship being shot down by TV or movies and the accusers provided no examples of such, just that wlw representation has been making a breakthrough at the time thanks to the vehement pushing of its writers and show creators. It has nothing to do with preferences for wlw relationships as these studios have tried to stop it and still push back against it to "appeal to a broad audience". It just so happens that the queer creatives who have made waves for representation wanted to represent queer femmes, most identifying closely with sapphic experiences. To underestimate the amount of discrimination these queer creators got for getting wlw representation out there by assuming they have some type of privilege over queer CIS men is grossly ignorant. Although mlm representation is important, it's upsetting to see queer men look at wlw representation and respond with jealousy, unknowing of how queerness already centralizes them. RuPaul's Drag Race, for example, was only allowed for CIS men before trans women were recognized as legitimate drag performers, many of the "CIS" contestants turning out to be trans women. Drag kings still have not made any appearances on the show and are still overlooked and undervalued in the Drag community.

Even though queer men cry for their turn when it comes to something like queer representation in the media (even though it exists, they just have a problem with women having more than them), they don't bat an eye in the way queer men dominate places like the fashion industry that heavily discriminate against women (Karl Lagerfeld and Dolce and Gabana being infamously misogynistic). They also wince at gay shipping culture and mlm representation when it's created by women, accusing them of fetishism, something I've been guilty of in the past. Although, there's an understandable desire for mlm content that is also written by queer men and discomfort about women being voyeurs in gay fiction, we're also assuming these women aren't queer themselves or that they even identify as women. Love Simon's author, Becky Albertalli was forced to come out as bisexual after years of scrutiny for being a "straight woman profiting off of queer romance".

"I legitimately didn't realize. I'm thirty-seven years old. I've been happily married to a guy for almost ten years. I have two kids and a cat. I've never kissed a girl. I never even realized I wanted to. But if I rewind further, I'm pretty sure I've had crushes on boys and girls for most of my life. I just didn't realize the girl crushes were crushes."

There is an oversight on how many people divulge in queer fiction in order to explore their sexuality and gender long before they even consider that they could be queer themselves (I know that was my experience). But even with straight women, many of them are actually drawn to gay fiction because it subtracts women from the equation. Female characters are subject to sexist tropes and many of their romances are imbalanced and toxic. Gay fiction has been a way for women to enjoy romance without feeling the weight of patriarchy through femme-presenting characters.

All this to say that misogyny is still fervent in the queer community and queer men do not get a pass on how they talk about and treat women. I noticed that the most privileged of the queer community, that being White CIS gay men, are the ones who act the most entitled in the queer spaces they enter, not the "straight" women they constantly antagonize. Queer men still struggle with what all men struggle with and that's acknowledging their privileges. Even if they swear their problem with women is because of their sexuality, it really ends up coming down to their gender.

[bucksboobs]

I mean I think it makes sense for heartstopper to not have anything explicit going on as one of them only Just realised he liked boys and the other one has an ED, they do talk about it pretty directly in the show so its addressed not totally unrealistically. But as for fan response yeah there was a weird thing amongst… a certain subset of fans of making a joke/meme out of a single throwaway line in the books where they mention having sex, maybe the accessibility draws that type of crowd but I don’t think that’s the fault of the show/comic itself 😅 esp as things get fairly explicit in the comics later as they get older

I have complicated feelings about Heartstopper. I actually like it in theory as Baby’s First Gay Show (I would have rather had it then Queer as Folk when I was 14) and in theory it’s a uncomplicated cozy, warm, fuzzy story about two young boys falling in love. It’s the definition of Toothrotting Fluff

However in practice, it feels alienating to me as a gay man when the only two things gay boys are allowed to be in the show are Pure UwU Tumblr Softboy who Speaks in Therapy-ese and Pure Evil Rapist who is brought back into the show after the point the comic counterpart had been written out just to be a punching bag for the Valiant Bisexual Girl to yell at and out in front of their classmates and then Get Dunked On by his ex when he tries to apologize and then have The Symbolism Doodles symbolically reject him from the LGBT community and then get written out of the story.

Combined with the complete stripping away of any mention of sexuality outside of exactly One Scene where they discuss the gay equivalent of Waiting Until Marriage, it does come off as incredibly puritan even if it’s justified in-story by Charlie’s ED and I do actually attribute that in part to the source material. Alice Oseman is by their own admission, pretty uncomfortable with the idea of sex and it shows in the way Nick and Charlie are written. As Trixie and Katya put it: they seem like they just want to hold hands at the post office. The show to this point has been very very uncomfortable with the idea that these two boys might be attracted to each other in a not-purely-romantic way, and when the only other gay character that did show some level of sexual attraction that maybe wasn’t purely romantic is Ben Fucking Hope, the implication seems to be that there’s a Right and Wrong way to be Gay in the eyes of the story.

It also doesn’t escape my notice that Love, Victor petered away into obscurity but Heartstopper is seen as the pinnacle of Gay Representation to a lot of people. Love, Victor was unafraid of teenage boys of all sexualities being sexual beings and in fact reckons with it in ways that were VERY close to my actual experiences, like everything with Victor and his mom coming to terms with him having a romantic and sexual relationship with his boyfriend. Disney shafted LV a lot but Netflix has this Pure Sanitized Risk-free Romance on the front page every time a new season comes out and that also just stings. There’s the feeling that maybe if LV had been more chaste, more palatable, it would have actually been a major success.

I don’t want to sound too dismissive of what HS is for a lot of people but to me there’s just something that makes me feel like it was never for me and that could be because I’m too old for it, but it sometimes feels like it wasn’t for me because it’s not for gay men at all.

[pynkhues]

https://www.tumblr.com/sad-gay-vampire/770779458450948096/drag-queens-trixie-mattel-katya-react-to?source=share

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Kind of crazy actually that he has like no extra body fat anywhere and a nonexistent waist and then that ass. How

I love that two of you sent me this, hahah.

[dhampirdulac]

You making a complete asshole of yourself online while you pander to people who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire in the street - must be a day that ends in “y.” 

Hope you feel real fucking foolish for hyping up the RuPaul Game Grumps when they both have a history of being anti black. Katya doesn’t dislike Armand she dislikes AMC’s version of Armand for reasons I can only speculate on right now. Probably has something to do with how she loves Anne Rice’s “best version of yourself” “””marble””” vampires and loves AMC’s Lestat and Daniel but can’t empathize with Louis and thinks Claudia is an annoying brat. All qwhite interesting!

You’re either a token snake for all your little racist followers or you truly are that dense and that’s why all your meta that is halfway decent is plagiarized from better sources who did it four months before you. Either way, Aubrey, may you try to be less two faced or less empty headed in the new year. Doubt you will, but sometimes miracles can happen

you look real goofy sending this to me in anne rice's interview with the vampire fandom, based on the work of a known racist whose estate still rakes in royalties from any of iwtv's success, whose son- a white man who went suspiciously radio silent abt the show as soon as they developed louis and claudia as black characters btw- is still making bank off the show and gets credited as an executive producer

if you've ever hyped up iwtv, if you've ever recced it to new viewers, if you're deep enough in the iwtv fandom space to have noticed my twitter account let alone follow my takes for long enough to develop this parasocial obsession with me, you've helped line the pockets of chris rice and the white producers and execs at amc who've got nothing but love and praise for anne's antiblack books and slap her name all over the marketing. but i guess engaging critically with problematic and racist material made by white ppl, pointing out the parts you hate and disagree with and still tryna get some personal enjoyment out of it- bc 99% of the media landscape is racist as shit and even when it isn't is funded and produced by racist imperialist companies- is only an issue when it's a black stranger online. you swallow that shit and say "thank you" when it's rich white folk getting richer off you and your friends' clicks, streaming revenue and free buzz on socmed. does this mean there's no way to engage critically with iwtv despite the network and source material being what it is?? no, ofc there's ways to engage critically with it as black viewers, but it *does* mean you look like an absolute clown if you're tryna turn "black trans fan excited abt promo made by shitty white ppl before knowing just how shitty they were" into some kinda gotcha or tryna frame me as some kinda snake or dupe for racists

you could've just sent me an ask like "heads up, receipts of trixie and katya being antiblack"- bc fuck em, i have no loyalty to them and idc abt turning on celebs for being bigoted shitheads, if i knew before i would've said something- or linked the metas you thought my threads had overlap with- which like, yeah there's gonna be overlap when folks are talking abt intentional, clear reads of the show that the writers want the audience to make, there's only so many ways reasonable interpretations can vary before you get into fanon delulu land- so i could support and boost the folks who wrote it. when i get ideas from posts that folks dm me or stuff friends mention in dms/gcs, i always ask if they want direct or indirect credit or if they wanna be left out, and a lot of folks ask to be left out bc of how much of a nightmare this fandom is. but lbr this isn't actually abt any of that, this is just bc you wanted to get your licks in and hurt me, and bc you mad abt something you can't control made by white people you can't reach (trixie and katya in this case) so you're taking it out on a black person within hitting distance instead- and you still too much of a coward to say it with your chest bc you're sending messages behind throwaway accts now that the anon option ain't available to you anymore

i know you on twitter if you reading all my meta and keeping up with my acct so again and for the last time- stop hiding behind anons and alts and @ me on main next time you pussy ass bitch

[segretecose]

Sources on the Pope's gay dressmaker?

Manumanito (@/manumanito). 2023. "En fin, hoy aprendí que el Papa tiene un diseñador..." Twitter post, February 13, 2023. https://x.com/manumanito/status/1625172609011965952?s=20

Today. 2022. "Filippo Sorcinelli: L'uomo che veste il Papa." Accessed October 4, 2023. https://www.today.it/gossip/vip/sarto-papa-gay-avances.html

Zamolodchikova, Katya. 2023. "The Bald and the Beautiful." Published July 2023 at Trixie & Katya, Los Angeles, CA, USA. Video, 25:53. https://youtu.be/n3Rp6qNPTgM?si=Pc5CC-S_9WT7p3El